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International Note 5 N920i on AT&T

Because I hate the idea of having a neutered AT&T Note 5, I bought an international variant (N920i). It appears the LTE bands are all compatible between the two. I will let everyone know how it turns out. If you already have experience with this, let me know.
EDIT: Yes, N920i works without any modification on AT&T

When does it arrive?
Thats very interesting.
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First half of this week hopefully!

Please keep us posted.

@alaskajoel Le us know if you have any signal issues.
The T Mobile S6 Edge on AT&T network gave me some issues. Calls would take 30 seconds to dial out and phone did not ring a bunch.

martinezma99 said:
@alaskajoel Le us know if you have any signal issues.
The T Mobile S6 Edge on AT&T network gave me some issues. Calls would take 30 seconds to dial out and phone did not ring a bunch.
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Will do. Should be in my hands tomorrow.

Here goes. N920i 64GB
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LTE Working with attnextgenphone APN. Made a few phone calls, received one, and so far no odd problems.

I don't see the LTE on the signal bar are you sure it's on LTE?
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May I ask where you purchased this version?

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I don't see the LTE on the signal bar are you sure it's on LTE?
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May I ask where you purchased this version?
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LTE showing up on the signal bar is a Domestic device visual. International versions Show E (edge) 3G, H+ (Faux G) and 4G for LTE.
If you are still unconvinced, my service mode presently shows I am on LTE Band 4. Download speeds at 40mbps this evening. No carrier aggregation unfortunately, but I also didn't have it on my Nexus 6 or the GS6.
I purchased the phone from a seller in Hong Kong via Ebay.

Awesome! Enjoy!

Yep, just like the International S6 G920I that supported AT&T LTE
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This is excellent news. How much did you pay for that bad boy? Please go to dev settings and see if "allow OEM unlock" is in the options. Thank you.

seh6183 said:
This is excellent news. How much did you pay for that bad boy? Please go to dev settings and see if "allow OEM unlock" is in the options. Thank you.
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~$900 USD. OEM Unlock is an available option in Developer Options.

I thought I'd give this thread a small bump as I'm about to pull the trigger on an international N920I as well.
My question stems from simply being new to importing phones and having to pay attention to bands. I have bene following this thread closely, and it seems as though the N920I performs well on the AT&T network, but is it the same as if I had bought one from AT&T? I ask only because it was just mentioned that this phone does not have Carrier Aggregation.
I'm not certain what carrier aggregation is (I looked it up on google but couldn't find much to answer my question). Does this mean that it will perform more slowly on US networks?
Also a final question, if anyone is willing to answer it. What is the region-locking situation on this phone? I have read mixed reports about people being stuck with phones that they cannot use because it was not activated with a compatible SIM, and some people that say they have had no problem. I don't want to drop $900 on this device and not be able to use it.

Diraan said:
I thought I'd give this thread a small bump as I'm about to pull the trigger on an international N920I as well.
My question stems from simply being new to importing phones and having to pay attention to bands. I have bene following this thread closely, and it seems as though the N920I performs well on the AT&T network, but is it the same as if I had bought one from AT&T? I ask only because it was just mentioned that this phone does not have Carrier Aggregation.
I'm not certain what carrier aggregation is (I looked it up on google but couldn't find much to answer my question). Does this mean that it will perform more slowly on US networks?
Also a final question, if anyone is willing to answer it. What is the region-locking situation on this phone? I have read mixed reports about people being stuck with phones that they cannot use because it was not activated with a compatible SIM, and some people that say they have had no problem. I don't want to drop $900 on this device and not be able to use it.
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My data speeds and reception have been the same as my nexus 6 and girlfriend's GS6 (purchased from AT&T.) Carrier aggregation allows for next generation LTE, but I have yet to own a phone, AT&T branded or otherwise, that supports it in my area. It might just be that there is no support for it in my city, but I'll be in Chicago In a few weeks and will try to investigate it there.
I can't speak to the region locking. All I know is my phone was completely sealed and worked 100% right out of the box with only putting in an AT&T SIM card.

alaskajoel said:
My data speeds and reception have been the same as my nexus 6 and girlfriend's GS6 (purchased from AT&T.) Carrier aggregation allows for next generation LTE, but I have yet to own a phone, AT&T branded or otherwise, that supports it in my area. It might just be that there is no support for it in my city, but I'll be in Chicago In a few weeks and will try to investigate it there.
I can't speak to the region locking. All I know is my phone was completely sealed and worked 100% right out of the box with only putting in an AT&T SIM card.
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Thank you for the quick reply. I think I'll put in an order right now.

Samsung Pay
I'm glad to hear that the N920I works on AT&T on the LTE band. I considered getting the International version. However, there is something else that I am concerned about...and that is Samsung Pay that will be coming late September. I believe carriers have to allow (or configure) Samsung Pay to work. For example, Verizon may not be supporting it, at least that's what's traveling around the net. Also when I had the International Galaxy S3 on AT&T, Google Wallet didn't work, it only worked on AT&T versions at that time. Unfortunately, we won't know until Samsung Pay is available, but I wonder if it will work on the N920I?

Awesome news. can you please tell me if VOLTE works on AT&T or if you even had the option for HD calling? Settings should be found under data options.
Thanks in advance.

For those wondering, if you use an N920I on AT&T, there are a few things you should know.
1. Since this is an international model, the signal indicators are different than what we're used to seeing in the US. The SM-N920I shows the following indicators for mobile data:
E - This means you have a 2G/EDGE connection
3G - This means you have a UMTS connection with no HSPA
H+ - This means you have an HSPA+/Faux 4G connection
4G - This means you have an LTE connection
2. Phone calls will not work over LTE (VoLTE), and, by extension, HD Voice doesn't work either. The VoLTE and HD Voice components are proprietary software that is only built into the AT&T-specific ROM on the SM-N920A.
3. The phone DOES support carrier aggregation (otherwise known as LTE-Advanced), but not on AT&T's bands. Considering that the SM-N920I is intended for retail in Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore, the baseband firmware is tweaked to do carrier aggregation on band pairs that are common among carriers in that part of the world.
So, what does this all mean? If you want a phone that has support for all the bleeding-edge technologies on AT&T's network (VoLTE, HD Voice, LTE-A), then you have no other choice but to buy an AT&T-branded SM-N920A. However, if you want faster updates, no carrier bloat, no carrier branding, an unlockable bootloader, and don't mind sacrificing the whiz-bang stuff on the network side of things, then an SM-N920I will work just fine. Put your SIM card in, you'll get LTE data on all of AT&T's available bands, and you'll be able to make and receive calls over the HSPA+ network. You're just not going to have all the latest carrier-marketed bells and whistles that you'd get if you bought a proper AT&T-branded SM-N920A.
At this point, I *should* rant about how stupid it is that Samsung refuses to sell SIM-free, unlocked versions of their phones via US retail channels. That's what forces us to go through these 3rd party importers to get the international models that aren't really tweaked for the US carriers. Alas, I'm not going to go down that road, though. It's a tempest in a teapot.

oldblue910 said:
1. Since this is an international model, the signal indicators are different than what we're used to seeing in the US. The SM-N920I shows the following indicators for mobile data:
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Translation: On the 920i/c, the signal indicators follow the international standard of "4G" being "LTE", and not the AT&T/TMO marketing fiction of "4G" being what everyone else calls "3.5G".
As for the rest of your points, I have to wonder how well deployed VoLTE is on AT&T (and I don't think AT&T has even started LTE-A yet, have they?)
I live in a somewhat rural area, and I'm just thrilled I have LTE.. which beats the "no signal" I get with other carriers. I don't know that I've ever experienced VoLTE. (Then again, I can't remember the last time I actually had a voice conversation with my phone.)
oldblue910 said:
At this point, I *should* rant about how stupid it is that Samsung refuses to sell SIM-free, unlocked versions of their phones via US retail channels. That's what forces us to go through these 3rd party importers to get the international models that aren't really tweaked for the US carriers. Alas, I'm not going to go down that road, though. It's a tempest in a teapot.
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Oh, but why not?! We really need some more activity in the AT&T Note5 section.

VoLTE on Rogers (Canada)

I'm trying to figure out why VoLTE (Voice over LTE) doesn't appear to be working on the Nexus 5X on my carrier (Rogers Wireless in Canada). When I make a call, it drops down to HSPA+. While this still works for voice and data at the same time, it's less than ideal. I know Rogers supports VoLTE since the end of March of this year.
From the hidden *#*#4636#*#* menu, the option "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" appears, but unlike the other options cannot be toggled. Additionally, the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" toggle does not appear under Wireless & Networks → More... → Cellular networks. I've attached screenshots of both screens.
Is this something that we will have to wait for a future update to enable? Currently on build MDB08I.

Is this something that we will have to wait for a future update to enable? Currently on build MDB08I.[/QUOTE said:
also curious to know about this... Do we know what band is used for VoLTE? I believe T-Mobile uses band 12 - (700MHz? or is 700 band 17?). Rogers rolled out that band a while ago (before VoLTE) presumably as a precursor for it.. maybe the secret lies here?
I cant test at the moment but I will when I get home.. Unless a zip can be made.
edit: 700mhz bands 12(700a),13(700c),17(700b) and 29(700d and 700e).
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k.s.deviate said:
also curious to know about this... Do we know what band is used for VoLTE? I believe T-Mobile uses band 12 - (700MHz? or is 700 band 17?). Rogers rolled out that band a while ago (before VoLTE) presumably as a precursor for it.. maybe the secret lies here?
I cant test at the moment but I will when I get home.. Unless a zip can be made.
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Band 12 is 700MHz (sometimes refereed to as 700 a, 699–716 UL 729–746 DL), this is used by T-Mobile. Rogers also has a 700MHz band, but it's Band 17 (sometimes referred to as 700 b c, 704–716 UL 734–746 DL). As I understand it, VoLTE is a prerequisite for enabling Band 12 on T-Mobile (along with E911 certification), but VoLTE should work for every LTE band (including Band 4, which is the dominant band used by Rogers/Telus/Bell).
I'm a little hesitant to flash the old radio, so please report back once you get a chance to try it!

I'm pretty sure Rogers on supports VoLTE on the latest apple products. Rogers sucks

mymusicathome said:
I'm pretty sure Rogers on supports VoLTE on the latest apple products. Rogers sucks
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From what I've researched, it supports VoLTE on the iPhone 6S/6S+, along with:
Rogers said:
The LG Vigor; the Samsung GS6, GS6 edge, GS6 edge+ and Note 5; and the LG G4 are all currently compatible. To see if your device is VoLTE-compatible, check the device specifications on rogers.com.
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If you go to the device specifications on Rogers' website, nothing is written about VoLTE on any of the phones including the G4. However, on the blurb about the G4 when you search Android devices, it lists "Rogers VoLTE" as one of the features. Nothing on the GS6/edge/+/Note5 indicates they are compatible with VoLTE. LG Vigor is no longer offered.

rydare said:
Band 12 is 700MHz (sometimes refereed to as 700 a, 699–716 UL 729–746 DL), this is used by T-Mobile. Rogers also has a 700MHz band, but it's Band 17 (sometimes referred to as 700 b c, 704–716 UL 734–746 DL). As I understand it, VoLTE is a prerequisite for enabling Band 12 on T-Mobile (along with E911 certification), but VoLTE should work for every LTE band (including Band 4, which is the dominant band used by Rogers/Telus/Bell).
I'm a little hesitant to flash the old radio, so please report back once you get a chance to try it!
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so basically band 12 700a is useless to us on Rogers?

k.s.deviate said:
so basically band 12 700a is useless to us on Rogers?
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Right, since Rogers doesn't use it, it shouldn't matter to us.
I'm still not sure why the option doesn't exist (even grayed out) under "Cellular network settings" and why "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" cannot be toggled. The option that exists for the Nexus 6 after the update to enable VoLTE was pushed (5.1) under "Cellular network settings" says "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" as pictured in the attached screenshot.
It would be helpful if people who were on other networks besides Rogers (especially US providers) if they could post a screenshot of their "Cellular network settings" and tell us if "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" is available. If people on other carriers have the option, then perhaps it is an issue of the device not recognizing that VoLTE is offered by Rogers?

rydare said:
Right, since Rogers doesn't use it, it shouldn't matter to us.
I'm still not sure why the option doesn't exist (even grayed out) under "Cellular network settings" and why "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" cannot be toggled. The option that exists for the Nexus 6 after the update to enable VoLTE was pushed (5.1) under "Cellular network settings" says "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" as pictured in the attached screenshot.
It would be helpful if people who were on other networks besides Rogers (especially US providers) if they could post a screenshot of their "Cellular network settings" and tell us if "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" is available. If people on other carriers have the option, then perhaps it is an issue of the device not recognizing that VoLTE is offered by Rogers?
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According to other posts, the "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" doesn't toggle but a reboot (or several) enables the Advanced 4G option to be enabled. I think both Verizon and T-Mo users have this option, just greyed out.
I don't get it either... we are all on the same firmware, I personally came from a G4 so VoLTE is active on my account but I think its a case of Rogers not allowing our "non supported" devices to use VoLTE. I'm calling tech support to see if they can help out..
edit: no luck.. they still have my device listed as a G4 and say everything is good on their end.
no amounts of reboots will help rogers.. but thank you..
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Verizon has the enhanced 4g option.. only after some messing around I think.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/verizon-voice-lte-t3231184

Yeah downgrading the radio did nothing for us. Since 700a is useless to us I'm flashing the new radio.

k.s.deviate said:
Yeah downgrading the radio did nothing for us. Since 700a is useless to us I'm flashing the new radio.
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Thanks for the update. I'm still curious to find out if anyone has the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" option in their settings, and whether it's a matter of the carrier settings or not being enabled in the ROM. The fact that Verizon people are getting HD calls indicates it has to do with our carrier. I'm trying to get in touch with Rogers and see if they could possibly enable it, they're selling the 6P in their stores so maybe there's hope for our lovely device.

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Thanks for the update. I'm still curious to find out if anyone has the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" option in their settings, and whether it's a matter of the carrier settings or not being enabled in the ROM. The fact that Verizon people are getting HD calls indicates it has to do with our carrier. I'm trying to get in touch with Rogers and see if they could possibly enable it, they're selling the 6P in their stores so maybe there's hope for our lovely device.
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I didn't realise they were getting the 6p.. This might help us out a lot. Do you happen to know an eta?
Edit: just saw that Canadian carriers will be getting the 5X "soon". The word is end of October. Also noticed on rogers' page that there is no mention of VoLTE being a "feature" of the 6P. Here's to staying positive that it and the upcoming Rogers 5X will carry this "feature".. :fingers-crossed:

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I didn't realise they were getting the 6p.. This might help us out a lot. Do you happen to know an eta?
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Last news that came out said they would start fulfilling preorders November 4th. It was delayed a couple times so it could be delayed again.

So the device is available now on rogers, but it is not included in the list when searching by VoLTE. Moto Nexus 6 is tho...
Weird thing is my account was set up with the G4, so VoLTE was set up on my account and according to rogers it still is but I am not able to get it to work with my 5x.

k.s.deviate said:
So the device is available now on rogers, but it is not included in the list when searching by VoLTE. Moto Nexus 6 is tho...
Weird thing is my account was set up with the G4, so VoLTE was set up on my account and according to rogers it still is but I am not able to get it to work with my 5x.
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Yeah, even with 6.0.1 it still drops to 3G for calls, I'm not exactly stock so it could be an issue with how I flashed it but I doubt that is the case. It is still the case that "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" cannot be toggled in the hidden dialer menu. Also there is still nothing under "Cellular network settings" that says "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" like on the Nexus 6.
Since Rogers is only offering the 6P, I don't know if we'll ever see VoLTE for the 5X... but if they patch it in for the software for the 6P, they could theoretically add it in for the 5X too. So maybe there's still hope for a future update that will enable this. 6P still is not listed as a VoLTE device on the Rogers website, but now they are allowing you to search for devices that support VoLTE, which shows you all the usual suspects. So perhaps this feature is getting more prominent for Rogers.
Bell and Telus are offering the 5X directly, but neither carrier has launched VoLTE.

I have the same questions/issues with AT&T as well. My 5X will not expose the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" either. I have all the IMS based features turned on in the dialer menu. Of course you will need a SIM that is attached to a VoLTE account on the back end systems, and I have several of them. You have to be provisoned in the HSS and TAS as IMS capable. If I look at a registration event from the 5X it says its voice service is "CS Only" while my other VoLTE phones attach as both "LTE Voice" and "CS Voice".
I highly suspect the 5X is coded to not allow IMS/VoLTE for other than T-Mob and VZ, but why I don't know.

Do we have a way of Unlocking Lte bands yet?

Just curious because in all my excitement I failed to realize that the Oneplus 3 does not support Verizons band 13 I have the North American version BTW

i join in!
bought the phone while on vacation in the US. where i live, LTE mainly uses band 3 (1800) which is not supported by the US version.
only thought about it after i was home

eladrichi said:
i join in!
bought the phone while on vacation in the US. where i live, LTE mainly uses band 3 (1800) which is not supported by the US version.
only thought about it after i was home
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Both the North American variant and the China variant share model number A3000, there's a high chance those two variants are the same piece of hardware. The China model is said to support LTE band 3.
You could try this out to enable all hardware supported bands. Please let us know the result.
The guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059

alexander宇 said:
Both the North American variant and the China variant share model number A3000, there's a high chance those two variants are the same piece of hardware. The China model is said to support LTE band 3.
You could try this out to enable all hardware supported bands. Please let us know the result.
The guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
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Enabling bands on the OnePlus line of devices requires a patch to the NVRAM, one of which hasn't been made for the OP3 (and older patches cause bootloops). When enabling bands, the NVRAM resets on boot, reverting all changes. I've done some research and testing, and it seems that missing bands aren't the problem. It's provisioning. The OP3 fully supports most of the bands Verizon uses, but doesn't know how to switch between LTE and CDMA. You can force LTE with a few build.prop edits and changing some cellular settings, and it works blazingly fast - but, you can ONLY use LTE and nothing else. I'm still doing some more work, but a few people that know more about RIL than me have said they will begin looking for a solution around October. For now, just enable data roaming (which isn't actually roaming if you're in the US) and use 3G. I'm confident that we can get it working eventually.
Band 13 isn't some magical necessary band, it's just the first and therefore most common band. Yet my area doesn't even use it.
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Also, I am unable to get a 4G lock on Oxygen, only on CM based ROMs.

camcorder123 said:
Enabling bands on the OnePlus line of devices requires a patch to the NVRAM, one of which hasn't been made for the OP3 (and older patches cause bootloops). When enabling bands, the NVRAM resets on boot, reverting all changes. I've done some research and testing, and it seems that missing bands aren't the problem. It's provisioning. The OP3 fully supports most of the bands Verizon uses, but doesn't know how to switch between LTE and CDMA. You can force LTE with a few build.prop edits and changing some cellular settings, and it works blazingly fast - but, you can ONLY use LTE and nothing else. I'm still doing some more work, but a few people that know more about RIL than me have said they will begin looking for a solution around October. For now, just enable data roaming (which isn't actually roaming if you're in the US) and use 3G. I'm confident that we can get it working eventually.
Band 13 isn't some magical necessary band, it's just the first and therefore most common band. Yet my area doesn't even use it.
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Also, I am unable to get a 4G lock on Oxygen, only on CM based ROMs.
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thanks for the reply.
i am actually currently living in Israel (so Verizon are quite far away )
the local networks all have LTE on band 3 (1800) which is not supported on my OP3.
i did manage to get 3g without doing anything, and following your bootloop comment, i will probably wait until October for someone with the know-how to generate a stable working solution.
thanks anyway!
BTW, while i was in the US (Oregon) i used T-Mobile and got LTE all day long with default settings on the same OP3 device.

eladrichi said:
thanks for the reply.
i am actually currently living in Israel (so Verizon are quite far away )
the local networks all have LTE on band 3 (1800) which is not supported on my OP3.
i did manage to get 3g without doing anything, and following your bootloop comment, i will probably wait until October for someone with the know-how to generate a stable working solution.
thanks anyway!
BTW, while i was in the US (Oregon) i used T-Mobile and got LTE all day long with default settings on the same OP3 device.
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Well, mine is China version and I mainly live in the US now. It would be a great deal if we exchanged our phones.
Anyway, I feel HSPA+ is fast enough for me, at least better than my wifi at home.

camcorder123 said:
Enabling bands on the OnePlus line of devices requires a patch to the NVRAM, one of which hasn't been made for the OP3 (and older patches cause bootloops). When enabling bands, the NVRAM resets on boot, reverting all changes. I've done some research and testing, and it seems that missing bands aren't the problem. It's provisioning. The OP3 fully supports most of the bands Verizon uses, but doesn't know how to switch between LTE and CDMA. You can force LTE with a few build.prop edits and changing some cellular settings, and it works blazingly fast - but, you can ONLY use LTE and nothing else. I'm still doing some more work, but a few people that know more about RIL than me have said they will begin looking for a solution around October. For now, just enable data roaming (which isn't actually roaming if you're in the US) and use 3G. I'm confident that we can get it working eventually.
Band 13 isn't some magical necessary band, it's just the first and therefore most common band. Yet my area doesn't even use it.
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Also, I am unable to get a 4G lock on Oxygen, only on CM based ROMs.
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That I had no idea, Thanks for the information.
In fact the only band I need(more like Wind Mobile Canada need) is UMTS band 4, Wind does not have a LTE network yet.
I'm just trying to figure out if the China model supports UMTS band 4. If it does I could simply buy one here in China and bring it to Canada instead of spending 100 CAD more for the Canadian North American model.

Oops. Not used to having an international phone, forgot that not everybody is on Verizon . Anyways. Until someone can make an NVRAM patch, the only thing that might help are some build.prop edits. I'm actually currently searching for them, I'll post them when I find them.

So volte works fine for me but on LTE Discovery I only see my OnePlus 3 connecting to Band 4 and getting mediocre reception, and I'm pretty confident where I live there is band 12 (central Austin, Texas)
Anyone having a similar issue?

camcorder123 said:
Oops. Not used to having an international phone, forgot that not everybody is on Verizon . Anyways. Until someone can make an NVRAM patch, the only thing that might help are some build.prop edits. I'm actually currently searching for them, I'll post them when I find them.
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will editing the build.prop open up the locked LTE bands? or will it just allow me to force LTE on the currently available LTE bands for my device region?
more specifically, will this enable LTE band 3 even though the OP3 is the US version?
if so, i am willing to play along and if i get good LTE coverage at home and work, i don't mind it being LTE only.

I'm join too to the questions, like to take a part of this too, there is any news? Thanks

Also interested.. have only band 3 coverage and bought the OP3 in the US..
Thanks

As I see it now, I talk with few people and they all said that it can't be done

Yeah interested in knowing this as well since I can only really get the US version easily to New Zealand.
My provider only supports:
LTE (band 3) 1800 MHz
LTE (band 28) 700 MHz
RIP :/

eladrichi said:
will editing the build.prop open up the locked LTE bands? or will it just allow me to force LTE on the currently available LTE bands for my device region?
more specifically, will this enable LTE band 3 even though the OP3 is the US version?
if so, i am willing to play along and if i get good LTE coverage at home and work, i don't mind it being LTE only.
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It won't enable bands. Can't. It WILL force a connection to LTE on any supported bands in your area, though. I'm so sorry, but I'm currently in the process of finding the build.prop edits I mentioned, I had them on a thread on a different account that appears to have been deleted. The second I find them I'll post them.
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So I'm having a hard time getting edits to actually work. I was on CM13 at the time and I'm currently on RR, but it might just be my location (on vacation). But for those who wanna try, here are the edits:
lteOnCdmaDevice=1
to.telephony.default_network=11
There were a few more concerning GSM and CDMA operator numbers, but those seem to have no effect. You might also have to fiddle around in the cellular data settings and change from Global to LTE.
One thing is for sure - these won't work on Oxygen OS. I can't get a lock on 4G on Oxygen no matter how hard I try.

camcorder123 said:
It won't enable bands. Can't. It WILL force a connection to LTE on any supported bands in your area, though. I'm so sorry, but I'm currently in the process of finding the build.prop edits I mentioned, I had them on a thread on a different account that appears to have been deleted. The second I find them I'll post them.
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So I'm having a hard time getting edits to actually work. I was on CM13 at the time and I'm currently on RR, but it might just be my location (on vacation). But for those who wanna try, here are the edits:
lteOnCdmaDevice=1
to.telephony.default_network=11
There were a few more concerning GSM and CDMA operator numbers, but those seem to have no effect. You might also have to fiddle around in the cellular data settings and change from Global to LTE.
One thing is for sure - these won't work on Oxygen OS. I can't get a lock on 4G on Oxygen no matter how hard I try.
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thanks for your effort!
but that doesn't solve the issue, as the problem is not with connecting to LTE network but the LTE network being on an unsupported band.
forcing LTE will only leave my phone with no signal at all...
is there any way, instead of enabling locked bands, to change the region of the phone?
meaning, i don't mind losing the US bands if i can gain the EU bands.
so is there a way to completely change a OP3 from US version to EU version? so that no band unlocking needs to take place?

Joining the request. I have the same problem: missing band 3 on the US version.

Joining the request as well. I have de A3000 Chinese version and I need to enable Band 4 for Latin America

Joining the request, too. my country is covered by bands 3.
A3000

Yeah well I'm joining in.
Whoever makes a working NV/rmt/whatever patch for 64bit devices get a cookie from me. Or at least, find another way to prevent the device from resetting the NV edits we make. I got the North American OnePlus 3 and it's the one that doesn't support Band 3 (1800MHz) which my country's 4G connection runs at.
Rebooting resets whatever NV edits we make and even on CM it does that as well. I wouldn't mind staying on HSPAP but in a couple of years that might be just obsolete.
To any developer that's interested in doing this, I'm your guinea pig, just PM me and I can test anything for you.

LG G7 Unlocked - Brightpoint?

I ordered a LG GM710ULM from a well-reviewed seller on eBay. It was listed as new condition.
I received it yesterday and on the box, the model says LM710ULMBLTPL. I think the "PL" is for the Platinum. When I booted it up, the model number is the LM-710ULM, the serial number is populated, and the software version is the 11g and security patch is November 2018. When I tried to "Check for updates" , it said there were no updates available. There's no SIM card in it, so I'm not sure if that affects the ability to check updates. I don't see any signs of any carrier apps. All
When I looked up the IMEI on one of the free checkers, it comes back with the model as LMG710ULM, but the network is listed as "ABC Brightpoint" and Location is "N". As I've poked around, it looks like this is some sort of regional variant, but still from the U.S. But I can't find any cell provider named "Brightpoint".
When I checked the IMEI on T-Mobile's website, it gave me an error. But when I used the chat support feature, the rep was able to look it up and confirm it's not blacklisted and should be able to be activated on T-mobile. When I ran the IMEI through Verizon's online checker, it told me it wasn't compatible with Verizon's network. Which is a bit unsettling since the unlocked version should be able to be activated on any network.
Can anyone offer some insight on what the Brightpoint version is and how it may be different from the plain vanilla 710ULM ? Willl it be covered by the LG manufacturer warranty and get updates? Is there any way to be sure it's not refurb or flashed?
Thanks!

The fact that you have a populated serial number is a good sign. Brightpoint has released legitimate firmware for the ULM model, but I still no nothing about them as a company (might be worth a search of the forms... I think I remember someone talking about them as an LG partner). As seen here, I think the 11g update was the last update they released, but it should be possible to switch over to GFI or LG's vanilla USA firmware (this will likely require the use of LGUP), both of which are the same as far as I can tell, however there are different contact and dialer apps that get used depending on which network you are on, as well a Google Fi app that is either enabled or disabled by default.
Regardless of what the VZW website said, you should have access to all 4 major carriers in the US. I don't know if you have a specific provider in mind or a solution that uses multiple carriers such as Google Fi or Straight Talk, but you should be good to go (although I would recommend flashing to the latest "USA" kdz, which sadly is still not Pie!)

This is exactly what happened to me. What did you find out? What did you end up doing? I was expecting the ULM.AUSAPL model but got the ULM.BPTPL. Apparently Brightpoint is a CDMA company. Does this mean not all GSM bands will be accessible on this BPT firmware? Ya, seems their latest update is still from 12/2018 (11g) instead of USA firmware from 3/2019 (10j). Trying not to have to flash/root. Odd that Verizon said not compatible when it too is CDMA? Really having trouble finding the TRUE factory unlocked ULM.AUSA version. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Any info? Really would like to know what you found out. Did you keep the phone? Encounter any problems? ANY info would be greatly appreciated. DeeBG: maybe you can answer this: (BrightPoint is CDMA "provider" for all those tiny regional carriers) Since this "factory unlocked" ULM version is BPT does this mean that some or all of the GSM frequency bands are "disabled" for this model? And the USA version (GSM according to LG) has the CDMA bands "disabled"? And the GFI has all bands "enabled"? (for Fi auto switching) Is this how it works or what? Very confusing. Please help clarify this. Thanks.

I got one of the ULM versions off the bay too recently....it would not work on VZN...they denied activating it. I believe it does not have some bands needed. No pie for it either....so sent it back and got the VM version for vzn.

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Any info? Really would like to know what you found out. Did you keep the phone? Encounter any problems? ANY info would be greatly appreciated. DeeBG: maybe you can answer this: (BrightPoint is CDMA "provider" for all those tiny regional carriers) Since this "factory unlocked" ULM version is BPT does this mean that some or all of the GSM frequency bands are "disabled" for this model? And the USA version (GSM according to LG) has the CDMA bands "disabled"? And the GFI has all bands "enabled"? (for Fi auto switching) Is this how it works or what? Very confusing. Please help clarify this. Thanks.
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Sadly the confusion + lack of information is rampant for this phone, and this is down to one major reason. The chipset used in all LG G7 phones is the same (Qualcomm Snapdragon 845), however due to carrier subsidies and other sketchy reasons, the active bands are dictated by whoever sold the phone.
There are two providers in the US that I'm aware of that make use of all four major networks (those being Google Fi and Straight Talk). There are multiple free and ad-supported apps in the Google Play store that claim to be able to tell you which bands are supported by your phone (I only know of their existence and so cannot recommend one that's more accurate than another).

Thanks for responding! Boy..............."lack of information for this phone" is the understatement of the year! You aren't kidding! I've been trying to find out more for days but seem to get either very basic answers or different answers from different sources. So frustrating! Even LG is very vague in their answers. Just want to know if I will encounter any problems trying to use this on GSM networks when this is technically on CDMA firmware? And just cross-flashing this to the USA firmware will NOT "enable" all the GSM bands, right? RR125: A bunch of reflashed G7's have been being sold online, making my search for true answers even more frustrating. Did it come factory sealed? Meaning clear round stickers on both the sides? If not, then you may have received one of the models being reflashed to make it look like it is a ULM model. Which is bait and switch and illegal.

I'm in the same boat. I signed up for Google Fi and purchased my G710ULM from Amazon a couple months ago. I experienced issues immediately. WiFi calling didn't work; every time it was enabled I could see ER081 up top. After 1.5 months of terrible service, I downloaded Signal Spy and came to the realization that I was only ever connecting to T-Mobile. If I attempted to manually switch to the Sprint network, I'd get a message like "configuring mobile data". After about a couple minutes, my SIM card would lock and it told me to reboot my phone. If I attempted to switch to U.S. Cellular's network, I would get phone and data, but my phone number changed to a Nebraska number (note, I live in Missouri).
At about that time, I started researching the different firmware versions (with great difficulty) and found that I had a Brightpoint-specific firmware (11g). I've since used LGUP to flash to firmware 10j (Google Fi's latest G710ULM firmware). This has improved but not fixed my situation. I can now make WiFi calls, I can connect to T-Mobile and U.S. Cellular and keep my phone number on U.S. Cellular. However, when I attempt to connect to Sprint, I still get that "configuring mobile data" message and the SIM card locks. I ordered a new SIM card from Google Fi a couple days back and intend to test this phone with the updated card, but I've got a feeling that something else is at play here preventing me from connecting to Sprint.
Similar to other people, I did an IMEI lookup and while it comes up on the free IMEI checker sites, most of the main networks' checkers (ATT, TMobile, Verizon, Sprint) tell me that the phone is either incompatible with their network or they can't find it in their DB.
Potential SIM card issues aside, does anyone have any other ideas why I may not be able to connect to Sprint?
-Nick

It could always be a hardware issue but it sounds like the phone is not getting provisioned to work on Sprint. Can you verify SprintDM.apk is installed? You will likely need to install a third party app such as system app safe remover from Play store.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...ribute-LG-Wireless-Devices-Accessories-United
Brightpoint sells both cdma & gsm LG phones and are distributors nowadays who sell to other carriers.
The bands on the phone are locked and not capable of being used unless you unlock them via qpst or cdma workshop.
But these firmwares provided have them directly locked in the kernel.

loonycgb2 said:
https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...ribute-LG-Wireless-Devices-Accessories-United
Brightpoint sells both cdma & gsm LG phones and are distributors nowadays who sell to other carriers.
The bands on the phone are locked and not capable of being used unless you unlock them via qpst or cdma workshop.
But these firmwares provided have them directly locked in the kernel.
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So if a Brightpoint ULM model was flashed with GFI ULM kdz why should it be GSM only unless they are different hardware version like TM? ULM hardware devices should support CDMA LTE bands.

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So if a Brightpoint ULM model was flashed with GFI ULM kdz why should it be GSM only unless they are different hardware version TM? ULM hardware devices should support CDMA LTE bands.
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Snapdragon 845 no matter what phone will come with the same qualcomm modem as no manufacturer/carrier will take the extra cost to modify design.
But since the bands are locked via nvram, its upto the manufacturer and/or the distributer that loads the software to choose what will be locked or unlocked.
Bands can be locked via android kernel, but operators do nvram to protect phones from being used out of what they need or want.

Enabling LTE Bands from the LG Secret Menu?

I have a PM edition that has been cross flashed to a ULM. Someone pointed out that the ULM version doesn't officially have certain US bands like 12, which are very important for T-mobile/AT&T here. But the original PM version does have those.
I went into the service menu (*#546368#*710#) and found the bands listed under the field test mode and went and disabled everything other than B12. At first there was no service, but after a quick toggle of airplane mode, I'm connected to Band 12 (according to signal spy at least). I even did a speed test to make sure it was sending / receiving data. I was previously connected to Band 2 before doing this.
I'm not sure what this proves- is B12 only available because my hardware is the PM version? Or are the bands controlled by software? I have to admit, the service menu seems to offer all the possible bands this SoC is capable of, including B71 . That's interesting because I thought B71 is only on the T-mobile version and not available on the ULM or PM versions. Does fiddling with the service menu essentially let you enable whatever band you want on any edition of this handset?

I have a real ULM and connect to LTE 12 without issue. IIRC, your PM crossflashed to ULM will work on all T-Mobile LTE bands except 71. If you feel like experimenting, there were rumors that AWM firmware may enable band 71 although I don't know recall anyone specifically testing it.

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I have a real ULM and connect to LTE 12 without issue. IIRC, your PM crossflashed to ULM will work on all T-Mobile LTE bands except 71. If you feel like experimenting, there were rumors that AWM firmware may enable band 71 although I don't know recall anyone specifically testing it.
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I'm thoroughly confused now, I swapped to another "ULM" (also crossflashed from Sprint- the first had a physical defect that I returned and swapped for another), and didn't do anything to the service menu and STILL connected to the same bands according to software reporting. Bands that according to online resources, the ULM isn't supposed to support. Yet it does, and you say your real ULM does too. So obviously the spec sheets online are wrong and I have no idea what bands any of these handsets actually support or if doing anything in the service menu makes any difference at all.
Someone said another edition of this handset (european maybe?) had his menu showing a different set of bands available to select than mine, so I wonder if this is controlled via the firmware or the hardware (NVRAM values or whatever?). The service menu appears to just serve as a way to isolate bands available to test if certain ones work where you are. And on my PM turned ULM, band 71 is listed. I don't have 71 around me so I have no idea if this is real or not.
Wish there was more (accurate) information about there about how this works.

I'm on T-Mobile and usually connect to LTE 2, 12 or 66. Of those I'd say most of time 66. I've never seen a connection to 71, which I always figured meant that its not supported by the phone. If you are interested in trying to get 71, flash AWM and see what happens.

So it follows the firmware or it follows the hardware (nvram values)?

ALL g7's other than the g7+ are capable of the same bands. They are software enabled or disabled or even hidden.
If you can access ##data# from dialer and input the msl code to get to band priority then you can connect whichever you want.
If not the secret menu is needed to access the ones you need.
If the firmware did not include the band in secret menu then it has been disabled. At that point you need to access via a nvdata application like cdma workshop to enable them forcefully, but it will clear out after each restart since cdma workshops adds the band temporarily.

Well why do the bands on ulm stop at 40

Dishe said:
I have a PM edition that has been cross flashed to a ULM. Someone pointed out that the ULM version doesn't officially have certain US bands like 12, which are very important for T-mobile/AT&T here. But the original PM version does have those.
I went into the service menu (*#546368#*710#) and found the bands listed under the field test mode and went and disabled everything other than B12. At first there was no service, but after a quick toggle of airplane mode, I'm connected to Band 12 (according to signal spy at least). I even did a speed test to make sure it was sending / receiving data. I was previously connected to Band 2 before doing this.
I'm not sure what this proves- is B12 only available because my hardware is the PM version? Or are the bands controlled by software? I have to admit, the service menu seems to offer all the possible bands this SoC is capable of, including B71 . That's interesting because I thought B71 is only on the T-mobile version and not available on the ULM or PM versions. Does fiddling with the service menu essentially let you enable whatever band you want on any edition of this handset?
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The ULM version definitely does have Band 12.
How do I know? I followed this guide: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g-supported-ca-combinations-from-your-android-phone/#LG_devices
I extracted the qmdl log and followed the steps to extract the actual supported bands as well as carrier aggregation combos right from the actual modem logs (which are 100% accurate, since LTE devices need to report this to the network every time they connect to it)
LG G7 ThinQ (US) (G710ULM) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for LG G7 ThinQ (US) (G710ULM)
cacombos.com
Here it is for the LG G7 ULM. Not only does it support Band 12, it also gets Band 17 and a wide variety of CA combos in that band.