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Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
Well...
I can think in 3 search criteria:
1. Go to the upgrading section of your device
2. use Wiki to find all cooked and shiped ROM´s
3. Use the XDA fttp
Windza said:
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
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A few months back I actually dug through the advanced search code in vBulletin (trust me, it's terrible code). I may be mistaken, but I believe that it doesn't allow keywords of 3 or less letters unless there's extra parameters (like boolean operators and more keywords). Don't hold me on that, I'd have to look again to be sure.
One of these days if I remember, I'll go hunting through the code again to confirm that and update the wiki page I wrote (link is in my signature) with the answer to this.
mikechannon said:
Indeed words of less than 4 letters will not search. BUT if you click on advanced searh then choose search using Google at the top, it will search for 3 letter words.
Or you could use this:
Search XDA-Devs Forums or Wiki
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The problem with using google in this case is that it's not context aware of the forum threads. I think he's looking to see a large list of the different roms. With google, he's going to get search results including several different pages per rom and no way to sort the results. It would be faster to just click next through each page of the rom dev forum for the selected phone...which is almost as good as getting the intended search results from searching for [ROM]....
It makes me wonder how hard it would be to patch the issue in vBulletin and get better search results than Google can produce.
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It makes me wonder how hard it would be to patch the issue in vBulletin and get better search results than Google can produce.
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If everybody can do the same thing as google did, google will not be google, I mean, the #1 internet company in the world.
I am just wondering that can anybody produce a code like the search link on this page.[Edit: I want to add several more sites as searching range to that one, can you figure it out?]
wg5566 said:
If everybody can do the same thing as google did, google will not be google, I mean, the #1 internet company in the world.
I am just wondering that can anybody produce a code like the search link on this page.[Edit: I want to add several more sites as searching range to that one, can you figure it out?]
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I wasn't talking about producing a better search engine, only fixing the known bugs. Things like the incorrect handling of sorting by relevancy (as detailed in the wiki page I wrote), the 4+ letter requirement on search terms, and maybe even giving it grouping capability. The first two aren't even hard to change, though the 4+ letter requirement is performance based, so it might be good to re-engineer some stuff. The grouping is trickier, but not even remotely an expert-level task (though it too has some performance implications).
Google doesn't have the know-how to separate or understand the context of searching only a certain group (or set of groups). It doesn't know how to search ONLY the topic and not the text body (or vice versa), etc. All of that data is separate and stuck in the database in different fields, which makes it WAY easier to search. We can have better search results than google because we have better access to the data, we just have to work through vBulletin's very simple code.
Yes agree. It is a shame that I found sometimes (or many times?) using the integrated search engine is not as good as just using 'search site by google'.
In my opinion, the 4letter+ issue is not as important as others. It is only reasonable to set such a reqirement and in most cases we don't need to search a word with less than 4 letters.
But I feel like lucky that I asked my question to the right person. Would you please spend a little time on help some clue for the question in my last post? Thanks in advance.
It will be wonderful if we can set google to search on limited range only like: xda-devs, ppcgeeks, msdn, pda4x, ppcfreeware, etc.
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Yes agree. It is a shame that I found sometimes (or many times?) using the integrated search engine is not as good as just using 'search site by google'.
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I think it depends on what is being searched for. Most RL friends know me for instantly hitting google to search on almost anything, but for this site I actually do use the integrated search most of the time. A well formed search here is still better than most results on google unless you need to use some pretty advanced searches that only Google can understand.
wg5566 said:
In my opinion, the 4letter+ issue is not as important as others. It is only reasonable to set such a reqirement and in most cases we don't need to search a word with less than 4 letters.
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GPS, WM6, SIM, GSM, SD, ROM, CAB
Just to name a few....
wg5566 said:
But I feel like lucky that I asked my question to the right person. Would you please spend a little time on help some clue for the question in my last post? Thanks in advance.
It will be wonderful if we can set google to search on limited range only like: xda-devs, ppcgeeks, msdn, pda4x, ppcfreeware, etc.
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I'm about to pick on you just a bit...
Did you consider searching Google for 'Google Custom Search'? Fourth result down there's a step-by-step guide that explains it easily and also pushes the value of it when combined with AdSense. This is a search thread after all
I admit, I'm glad to have stumbled onto setting up that feature with adsense because I would actually like to use it just for my own site I'm setting up shortly.
Thanks a lot, I got it.
One more noob question(web design is apparently not my area), can I set it in a local page like this, bcz I don't own a website myself? [Edit: Never Mind, Got It!]
Later on after setup your site, pls pm me a link.
Tx.
Edit: Just tried to create my own search engine, take a look here
Edit: Wonderful! Yeah! So happy today.
Windza said:
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
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It yields zero results because the word is too short.
Searching for ROM version #s
I just ran into a search problem myself. I was searching for radio version 1.14.25.05. The google search took me to a long thread, so I thought I'd just search for "1.14.25.05". It didn't return any results, so I assumed this version wasn't there. It wasn't until I asked for help on a new thread that I was embarrassed by someone who told me it was on post #2. I had incorrectly trusted search. With version #s being so important to what xda-developers is all about, having a robust thread search is critical. Any thoughts on possible improvements? Are there settings in this software that could be changed?
John
Searching for a 3-letter result... "YES" we can
So basically, everyone says to use "search" on XDA devs to look for answers for your questions, but nobody says "you should use google search if any word you're looking for is three letters or less"..... like SMS.
It's frustrating, following the rules, being told to follow the rules, then finding out following the rules didn't work anyways.
Fixing this nonsense would be great. Even removing the 'built-in forum search' entirely....? just a thought.
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
pimpmydragon said:
So basically, everyone says to use "search" on XDA devs to look for answers for your questions, but nobody says "you should use google search if any word you're looking for is three letters or less"..... like SMS.
It's frustrating, following the rules, being told to follow the rules, then finding out following the rules didn't work anyways.
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The rule is there to prevent people from asking questions that can be answered by either search engine we use. For a rule to work it needs to be short and to the point, no one will even try to read the rules if every rule is explained in detail.
pimpmydragon said:
Fixing this nonsense would be great. Even removing the 'built-in forum search' entirely....? just a thought.
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
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We're well aware that the vB search engine isn't perfect but neither is the one from google. That is why we give you the option to use both.
I'm well aware that this can be confusing at times but simply searching for "how to search xda-developers.com?" would have given you this thread wich explains in the first post that you can use google and that we implemented it because the vB search doesn't allow words with less than 4 characters.
Best regards,
Flar
Site admin
p.s. I always use the search in the navbar first I noticed later that my example search string gives really crappy results in the vb search.
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Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
we are only a PM away.
Flar said:
The rule is there to prevent people from asking questions that can be answered by either search engine we use. For a rule to work it needs to be short and to the point, no one will even try to read the rules if every rule is explained in detail.
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I believe many users never read site rules. Once we register on any web-site, there always be a rule or a terms-of-use, and people's habit would be just click on 'Agree' without a glance at the content, since they are all similiar.
But we have a way to force new users to learn how to search and view the site. Simply change the rule to: New users can not post within say first 50 online hours after registered. Then they have to view and search first, especially if they came with some question or urgent problem to be solved.I think Vbulletin has the function of online-time statistics.
Just an idea for consideration, I don't know it will be practical or not.
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I believe many users never read site rules.
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The Forum Rules announcement has >51,000 views since march... not bad
Dave
Yes, looks like the situation is better. It works especially by continuous remindment everuwhere. What about number of new users since then?
Edit: Remindment like this works, thanks for everybody's effort. A further thought is: If everybody already read it, but still a lot don't follow it. That may be caused by some human nature for urgently need an answer for his question. Noticed MODs' effort like your goodself to execute the rule, it helped.
Sorry i'm not quoting people here, i'm typing this on my phone.
First, the number of people reading the rules is far less than the number of new users, which doesn't even account for the long time users. Not that it matters hugely, the rules only truly matter to people posting, which is realistically isn't too bad.
Regarding the use of two search engines, it can be seen in a bad way, or it can be seen as having two different tools instead of just one. Neither is perfect, neither is better (opinions and experiences may differ), and they can often be used interchangably, but they are not the same and should be used differently.
Min 4 letter search is awful for a tech forum. No idea why such a known forum hasnt found a work around.
Theres no way around how terrible it is. As mentioned before the sheer number of issues that arise with things that start or 3 letters long renders search impotent.
MMS/USB are two major problems Ive had recently and couldnt do a search to find an answer. Of course that results in yet another thread on the topic being created that is probably needless.
Google search isnt forum specific so it too is too cumbersome to be useful.
Orb , MMS ,SMS , USB, APK , API I mean over half the "talk" we use for Phones involves 3 letter acronyms. Not even beginning to mention something like 1.6 , 2.0 when getting spcifics on those 3 letter acronyms.
Hey guys, just a head's up (of which you might already be aware of, if so feel free to close and/or delete this thread), the option to include YouTube video in a post is currently not working. When you click the YouTube button it places
Code:
[media=youtube][/media]
code for you, into which I placed a YouTube video. However when you hit "Preview" or "Submit" the code changes to
Code:
[media=youtube][url][/url][/media]
and you get a malformed result aka some meta garbage.
I'm not sure if this is a vBulletin-only issue, or if some upgrade to the YouTube backend fudged it up, but since VBulletin is payware, I would ask them to fix this jazz (assuming you are running the latest version, otherwise they will just say it's not their fault).
*random* Even though it is not my current profession (aka the things I do to make money), for years I took on freelance coding assignments that involved in PHP as well as (X)HTML/CSS/JS/etc. The only forum software I have ever coded hacks/addons for is phpBB, but to date I will still design Wordpress/phpBB/Drupal/custom backends (although I refuse to work with ColdFusion after a bad experience years ago... that and ASP/ASPX... PHP and Java Servlets I'm cool with) for a friend's website or help out a friend if they are behind in a freelance gig in exchange for a DVD or something.
I consider the XDA community my friend as well (well technically lots and lots of friends, and the random ahole which is unavoidable =p), so if you guys ever need help with something that falls into that category, let me know. Please note, this is not an invitation for XDA members to request work from me. This notice just applies to public xda-developer resources (aka the homepage, forum, wiki... things like that).
Edit: It appears the CODE function isn't working either, as I had some example posts at the beginning
delete double thread
please read and respect XDA rules
you already posted the same here
orb3000 said:
please read and respect XDA rules
you already posted the same here
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I am aware of this, that's why I marked that post for deletion (I respect the rules, my router however is a different story, I think wifi went on the fritz because I got a response as if the post didn't go through).
Testing Code Function
Code:
test
Testing YouTube Function
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Well it seems code works just find, as long as you don't try to embed bracketed code inside of it, but the YouTube Function is still boinked. BTW, this is just an FYI to the siteops, I could do without embedded YouTube videos.
Works inc preview?
stylez said:
Works inc preview?
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You can Click "Quote" to see stylez's code .
testing...
stylez said:
Works inc preview?
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it works and it always has for the past month
Ahh sorry guys, I was putting the whole URL in, not just the specific YouTube ID... I am going to go sit on my "stupid rock" now x.x, heh.
Three things ive noticed since updating to the new Tilt 2 official Rom. Every time the device starts up, the "Backlight and Power" SETTINGS screen loads, as i said, every time the device starts up. Its pointless, undesired, annoying, and has done that from the start.
*(2) On the SMS tab of the new "HTC SENSE" (newer version of touchflo pretty much) whenever you get a new SMS and go over to the SMS tab, the newest message isnt ever at the top of the list (waiting for you right in front of your face) on the previous official ROM the newest SMS was always placed/focused right at top of the list for you to see instantly. Not the case with this new ROM, you have to scroll through your old messages, to the very top to read the new SMS, instead of it being right there.
*(3) Why the heck did they get rid of the task manager in the upper right corner next to the clock? Are you kidding? That was just too easy to terminate programs, and switch focus to them if youd like. They got rid of it!? Ridiculous.
Tweaks of any kind are welcome and appreciated, im sure by a few people. I am an advanced user so i would understand. If anyone else thinks of gripes with the new ROM please post here!
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*(3) Why the heck did they get rid of the task manager in the upper right corner next to the clock? Are you kidding? That was just too easy to terminate programs, and switch focus to them if youd like. They got rid of it!? Ridiculous.
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Try this. i have not tried it yet so i cant tell you if it works but people have said it works on tp2 w/ sense!
Thank you, i will definitely check that out. i appreciate the helpful input, instead of being told where and how to post like a lot of other people seem to like to do. I sincerely appreciate your time and efforts. Looks like a good suggestion by just checking out the screenshots.
There's already several threads going regarding this ROM in the ROM Development forum (where this belonged and has been moved to). Had you taken a moment to look you could have found them and posted your drivel in one of them instead of having yet another thread on the same subject scattered around the forums. Your Task Manager gripe is among the most well-known and easiest to fix as a cab is posted in those other threads for it. Forums have certain etiquette that members are expected to abide by and not searching and starting superfluous threads will make others call you out on it. I was not rude to you in any way.
not sure why you posted the same question.
in two different sub-forums.
but...
please refer here.
enjoy.
sh4d0w86.
sh4d0w86 said:
not sure why you posted the same question.
in two different sub-forums.
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I know why...
Miami_Son said:
I know why...
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...doesnt matter why.
just didnt want to post my response twice.
so. gave a linky to my post on his other post.
Hi, I have read and follow al the steps in the thread "How to replace Windows Mobile with Android (Guide)", including the step by step "HowToInstallWithAtoolsNand" in SourceForge.net but I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.
I have my TyTN II with 3.34 HardSPL and the latest Radio ROM that I use to load alll the Windows ROM without any problem. But when I flash my ROM with and Android build what it happens is that afterward it installs it, when the device is booting it appears a message saying "Intall module for this kernel" and the boot process stops there.
Y tried putting inside /andboot folder directly the "androidinstall.tar" that I downloaded from the thread's build (for example the "Incubus26Jc's Super E Cmod 5.0.8 T4 Beta 3". Also I tried to open that "androidinstall.tar" in atools, mix it with 2.6.32 modules and generating a new androidinstall.tar and putting it together with install-seq.sh inside /andboot following all the steps explained in "HowToInstallWithAtoolsNand" but always happens the same.
Can anybody know what could be happening?
Thanks in advanced.
Guido.
Common problem answered here 10.000 times... just try to search...
Perhaps you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848921
To start, use a newer build. Then you won't need any updates. The latest builds from thoughtless kyle,clemsyn,scoot and I all have the necessary fix needed. If you want Cyanogen Mod then use scoot or mine. Our builds are based on CM 6.1 which is much newer with more features.
When you participate in a forum, you always have the posibibility to not replying or do it. If you are gonna do it, try to reply something clever. Nobody is putting a gun against your head to reply. If you don't feel like replying, just don't do it.
I have a problem, I do a quick search and if I don't find what I'm looking for, I just open a new thread. I don't have all my life to look for the answer of the problem. If you like to spend all your time indise this forum, go ahead, nobody is gonna stop you. I don't like to do it. I look for answers, no foolishness.
guido_7701 said:
When you participate in a forum, you always have the posibibility to not replying or do it. If you are gonna do it, try to reply something clever. Nobody is putting a gun against your head to reply. If you don't feel like replying, just don't do it.
I have a problem, I do a quick search and if I don't find what I'm looking for, I just open a new thread. I don't have all my life to look for the answer of the problem. If you like to spend all your time indese this forum, go ahead, nobody is gonna stop you. I don't like to do it. I look for answers, no foolishness.
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You you get all your answers from quick searches, you start to become lazy and unable to search properly. This is a BB, where all forums, threads, and posts are permanent. Available always. They are, so that others can come, read, SEARCH, and if, and only if they don't find the answer, open a thread.
Now, if we didn't wanted this... perhaps the dev's would have opened a chatroom on IRC and we could all be there to answer THE SAME ANSWERS over and over again.
Oh by the way, please explain how can you participate in a forum... without ever replying ? And he did answer something... as you putted it yourself... clever.
Listen...why don't you spend your time answering my question instead of bla bla bla about forum uses.
Do you like to spend all your time making searches, searches, searches and more searches?? Go ahead...Let others do what they want. If you don't agree, just keep your mouth closed and go to another thread more important than mine.
guido_7701 said:
Listen...why don't you spend your time answering my question instead of bla bla bla about forum uses.
Do you like to spend all your time making searches, searches, searches and more searches?? Go ahead...Let others do what they want. If you don't agree, just keep your mouth closed and go to another thread more important than mine.
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You don't like to read
Your question has already been answered
I like to solve the problems on my own
If i can't, i like to read. I don't want to solve it, i want to understand it
This is XDA devs. We develop, and help to develop and test. You wan't answers ? Call microsoft, htc, or whatever.
this is NOT your support forum. No one, owes you nothing here, except for respect.
Respect, you showed NO ONE when you don't even try to read the posts others have put here for you.
Now, stop being like that, go to the sugested thread, and learn how to fix your problem and to have some humility and respect.
daedric said:
You don't like to read
Your question has already been answered
I like to solve the problems on my own
If i can't, i like to read. I don't want to solve it, i want to understand it
This is XDA devs. We develop, and help to develop and test. You wan't answers ? Call microsoft, htc, or whatever.
this is NOT your support forum. No one, owes you nothing here, except for respect.
Respect, you showed NO ONE when you don't even try to read the posts others have put here for you.
Now, stop being like that, go to the sugested thread, and learn how to fix your problem and to have some humility and respect.
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I understand why your "thanksmeter" is in cero.
Please...shut up and don't write any more in this thread...From now you are not allow to write a word in this thread.
Go to c++ forums if you like to develop.
guido_7701 said:
I understand why your "thanksmeter" is in cero.
Please...shut up and don't write any more in this thread...From now you are not allow to write a word in this thread.
Go to c++ forums if you like to develop.
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Well... if a mod/admin forbids me, i will. You have no authority here.
As for the thanks meter, i have no comments.
lol now its not zero.
aceoyame said:
lol now its not zero.
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cause that is what the real community is ment to be or not?
So this guy thinks devs are forced to solve his problem? Have some selfesteem and try to solve it by urself, even my toddler could do it... Im starting to realize one of my college proffesors is right.... Windows stupifies people! (look at win7 logo: your PC simplified) Its like a black box when you cant see whats going on inside, you only have to now the input and output part of the system, ubuntu in the other hand forces users to learn some basic commands... the world would be a better place to live if we all had linux on our computers...
I just love it when people think that every site that offers something is required to offer support.
Not true, infact in the real world almost EVERY company in the U.S. of A does NOT have their own support, in fact it comes from 3rd party.
Same concept here, infact on this site, the userbase is filled with hardware tinkerers, software programmers, developers, IT professionals, etc, etc. They provide this stuff to you at no cost, and without warranty, meaning NO support unless it's something on their end (ex. programming error, etc), and then they provide fixes, which in case they did provide a fix in terms of a update package for android to fix the modules error.
I was the unfortunate one to run into this problem as well, and tried frantically to search for a reason why until I made a post explaining I couldn't find the source of the problem, and then they pointed me in the right direction and I went from there. Granted I ran into a second problem of my device running out of memory trying to apply the update, but that was an entirely un-related issue that I solved myself.
I myself am a hardware tinkerer, I love to break things, then fix them. I repair PCs, Laptops, hell even TVs in my spare time.
In retrospec. Things don't always work 100%, but for 95% of the people here, they go out of their way to try and fix it themselves and solve it themselves.
Everyone's right, there is a search button on these forums, and it takes probably 2 clicks to run a search, very simpl..... oh wait, Windows 7 can do it in 1 click, so I'm guessing 2 clicks is too complicated for you....
Hello
I was searching few dais before on web and i found tutorial how to remove on-screen navigation buttons..
But now when i bought HTC One M8 i couldn't find that tutorial...
I want to remove that buttons because it is getting on my nerves when is not full screen on some apps, but on that tutorial it was that you slide across bottom part and buttons appears...
Can some one help my how find that tutorial or just how can i do that...??
PLEASE
thanks
the Dutch dilemma
It's a feature in kitkat itself. When you turn on immersive mode you will have full screen and you'll have to swipe up for the buttons to reappear.
interpas said:
It's a feature in kitkat itself. When you turn on immerse mode you will have full screen and you'll have to swipe up for the buttons to reappear.
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thank for answer... but how activate immersion mod??
For example Facebook app doesn't have full screen, on Facebook app there is always active 3on screen buttons!!!!
eliozadar said:
thank for answer... but how activate immersion mod??
For example Facebook app doesn't have full screen, on Facebook app there is always active 3on screen buttons!!!!
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This is not a place to be spoon fed, you need to read. It is all on here.
Tips
Search for Xposed and then install
Next
Search for GravityboxKK in Xposed and install
Then look for immersive mode
Here's my solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51968838&postcount=110
grentuu said:
This is not a place to be spoon fed, you need to read. It is all on here.
Tips
Search for Xposed and then install
Next
Search for GravityboxKK in Xposed and install
Then look for immersive mode
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@grentuu. A bit harsh don't you think??! You could have linked him to exposed quicker than typing out what you did. I understand that folks need to search, but at the same time Senior members should also use their experience to educate our Junior members. Your rude response also does not bode well for teaching newer members how to act on these forums!
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@grentuu. A bit harsh don't you think??! You could have linked him to exposed quicker than typing out what you did. I understand that folks need to search, but at the same time Senior members should also use their experience to educate our Junior members. Your rude response also does not bode well for teaching newer members how to act on these forums!
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OK, I apologise if it came across as a little harsh. But the answers are all here if you look. Let me give you an example.
Last night I came across a problem with the Bootmanager module for Xposed. It's the first time I have used it and it isn't doing what the description says it should.
Now. my first action could have been to simply post in Q&A and hope someone was kind enough to fix it for me. There are probably about half a dozen threads I could have put my question in across XDA and other lesser forums
.Then I could have sat back, watched a bit of TV, poured a stiff one and waited for XDA to prompt me that someone had posted a reply. But that isn't what the spirit of XDA is about. It is about learning and searching the articles people have already posted. If you'll excuse the expression - 'The answers out there!' People need to look first ask questions later. By simply giving the answer to someone, what do you think will happen next time they have an issue? "I know, I'll ask those nice people at XDA"
If you notice I didn't tell him to go away - I did provide some pointers to 'direct' him. Up until that point in the thread, neither Xposed or Gravitybox had been mentioned. As I say 'Pointers'
It probably doesn't help that in the 'other world' I am a High School Teacher. I want people to reach out and learn for themselves, not expect to be, (here's that word again) spoonfed.
FYI I still haven't sorted my issue with bootmanager, but I still have some searching to do before I post a question.
Apologies to OP for off topic
Thanks all for help..
@grentuu i understand what are you trying to tell my...
This is my firs Android phone an allot of information, next time i will do a little more searching
Once again THANKS
eliozadar said:
Thanks all for help..
@grentuu i understand what are you trying to tell my...
This is my firs Android phone an allot of information, next time i will do a little more searching
Once again THANKS
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Great!
Try installing Xposed Framework http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.robv.android.xposed.installer
Then from within install GravityboxKK - your answer lies here