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Hello everyone,
Im an IT guy for the company i work for and my boss the exchange admin is looking at some software to secure android phones. (Rooted ones) He found this software called (air-watch). http://www.air-watch.com/platforms/android/index.html Can someone smarter them me take a look and see if this means the end for all of us with rooted phones in the company. Im not sure how rooting phones affects how they are seen from exchange but i love my Roms and wifi teather
sgtagem said:
Hello everyone,
Im an IT guy for the company i work for and my boss the exchange admin is looking at some software to secure android phones. (Rooted ones) He found this software called (air-watch). http://www.air-watch.com/platforms/android/index.html Can someone smarter them me take a look and see if this means the end for all of us with rooted phones in the company. Im not sure how rooting phones affects how they are seen from exchange but i love my Roms and wifi teather
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Looking at how the software has functionality to push policies and restrict usage of apps I'd say it would definitely allow them to micromanage the phones. But then again, as an IT guy I'd guess you wouldn't be happy if one of your users decided they wanted to blow away whatever OS you installed on a PC and put Ubuntu on it.
Im just hoping that it will not prevent a phone that is rooted from connecting to exchange. I really love wireless teather lol
That would require a tremondous amount of intelligence on the part of the system. I think this is more for 'allow only people who work for me to access the site' and everyone else should be denied.
sgtagem said:
Im just hoping that it will not prevent a phone that is rooted from connecting to exchange. I really love wireless teather lol
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Since this is in the Incredible forum I'm assuming you have an Incredible, in which case you dont need to be rooted to wireless tether...just FYI if your boss cracks down.
Google "HTC tether natively" and I'm sure it will pop
I read thru the site from the link.
Looks like through air-watch they'd have full admin access to device.
Question is whether the air-watch admin would 'blacklist' the superuser and/or tethering app(s).
Unlikely, imho, whether an astute IT person and/or admin of this system would allow a superuser app on devices that connect to company assets, but stranger things have happened.
Another thing i like is the root unistaller/ set cpu and custom roms. but thats another battle haha
Plus if you try to wipe the phone and install the new ROM, I am sure the Boss is going to have a few words with whoever did it.
Besides, it's not their phone, it's the company's phone. They can do what they want with it.
I work for a company in the top 20 of the fortune 500..we're looking at allowing employees to bring their own devices into our exchange servers but the catch is how to remote wipe them..they are looking at how to deal with rooted devices. I'm not privy to how they are working that out.
RXWatcher said:
I work for a company in the top 20 of the fortune 500..we're looking at allowing employees to bring their own devices into our exchange servers but the catch is how to remote wipe them..they are looking at how to deal with rooted devices. I'm not privy to how they are working that out.
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Thats what we are trying to do. my boss is afraid of a rooted droid bringing in some virus/malware in and he would also like to force things like screen lock pin codes. I dont see how a rooted phone would bring that stuff in anymore then a stock one but forcing a security policy would stop someone from stealing data from it rooted or not i would think
The fact that it is rooted does not make it any more likely to get a virus then an unrooted phone. Almost all android phones have the ability to install apps from the SD card and that is where a virus won't come from, not the ROM you happen to be using.
However, the installation of this could put your phone in shackles. In addition to the possibility of restricting what you can install, such as games, it could kill your ability to connect to wifi hotspots that are unknown to your company, they could can wipe your phone at a moments notice and track your location without your knowledge.
That way if you call in sick, your boss can find out if you are really at the game or home in bed.
In any case, if this is a work phone then you don't have much choice but if this is your personal phone, I would try to stay clear of it.
Very nice answer. Im the one who has to implement it so i can always exclude myself from the devices that are being watched. The call in sick thing is an awsome yet crappy thing lol
sgtagem said:
Very nice answer. Im the one who has to implement it so i can always exclude myself from the devices that are being watched. The call in sick thing is an awsome yet crappy thing lol
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Simple solution to "call in sick " concern : Turn Off The Phone.
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cam30era said:
Simple solution to "call in sick " concern : Turn Off The Phone.
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Or leave it at home and enjoy the game. Less suspicious if the phone is on and at home than off and lord knows where.
HTC Incredible
My employer is extremely security aware, and they are considering using an app named "Good." It partitions the Exchange data in an encrypted folder and allow that folder to be remotely wiped. Accessing the data is only available through the app, which is PIN protected.
This may be a better solution to your boss... and you.
This is what they have told me, I have not used it yet, and I am an amatuer at best when it comes to IM/IT. They were amazed and very concerned when they became aware that rooting and installing a custom ROM was easy enough that I could successfully do it...
Glad my employer hasn't learned how to do remote wipes on Droid phones since it would be end of many of us that hate iPhones. 75% of our staff use Droid phones and 50% of us have our phone rooted.
JohnKuczek said:
My employer is extremely security aware, and they are considering using an app named "Good." It partitions the Exchange data in an encrypted folder and allow that folder to be remotely wiped. Accessing the data is only available through the app, which is PIN protected.
This may be a better solution to your boss... and you.
This is what they have told me, I have not used it yet, and I am an amatuer at best when it comes to IM/IT. They were amazed and very concerned when they became aware that rooting and installing a custom ROM was easy enough that I could successfully do it...
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That sounds like a perfect solution. where can i find that app? is there a website or something
sgtagem said:
That sounds like a perfect solution. where can i find that app? is there a website or something
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It is in the Market. The full name is "Good for Enterprise" and the dev is listed as "Good Technology"
Policy for personal phones
Our company finally decided to allow personal phones to be connected to exchange. The phone just has to be compatible with accepting exchange policy, and we had to sign a company form stating that we are ok with them wiping our data if the situation arose.
JohnKuczek said:
It is in the Market. The full name is "Good for Enterprise" and the dev is listed as "Good Technology"
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that software looks alot better then the air-watch. seems alot more direct rather then locking down the whole phone lock the exchange info. Im gonna pitch that to my boss. I bet its alot cheeper too
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xboxexpert said:
The total has now risen to the administration having over 10K of phones locked in her drawer with no way to bypass security lock.
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I would love to see a picture of 10,000 phones in a drawer.
I don't have a solid answer for you on the legality (and in fact I'm sure few here are experts in that regard) although you can probably safely assume the answer is no.
psouza4 said:
I would love to see a picture of 10,000 phones in a drawer.
I don't have a solid answer for you on the legality (and in fact I'm sure few here are experts in that regard) although you can probably safely assume the answer is no.
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I figured the SGS7's are at least 400 or 500 bucks each or something I haven't paid for a phone nor service is 7 years being employees here. Don't care to research how expensive they are however I know she has over 20 of them at the moment.
#guestimate
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I figured the SGS7's are at least 400 or 500 bucks each or something I haven't paid for a phone nor service is 7 years being employees here. Don't care to research how expensive they are however I know she has over 20 of them at the moment.
#guestimate
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Aw, you meant $10K value not 10K quantity. What a difference a character makes. I would have loved to see the ridiculous stockpile that 10,000 phones in a single drawer would look like
So are you saying you found a method or are going to try to find a method?
Any cobtribution is a good one but I am not familiar with the legality either but dont see it matter unless you are posting saying thieves can use it on a stolen device.
In all honesty, ppl legitamitely forget their passwords and lock themselves out I am sure all the time and at times if you purchase the phone from a third party theres really no way to remove or bypass it without proof of purchase or replacing the device which some might not have because of how it was purchased.
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So are you saying you found a method or are going to try to find a method?
Any cobtribution is a good one but I am not familiar with the legality either but dont see it matter unless you are posting saying thieves can use it on a stolen device.
In all honesty, ppl legitamitely forget their passwords and lock themselves out I am sure all the time and at times if you purchase the phone from a third party theres really no way to remove or bypass it without proof of purchase or replacing the device which some might not have because of how it was purchased.
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I have successfully bypassed the FRP Reset Protection no matter how much security is on the phone, passcode, pattern, fingerprint. All are bypassed for a full clean factory reset.
So short answer, yes. Also there is a high likelihood that this method works on ALL variants.
I'm going to say trolly troll troll.
'Tis all.
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If what your saying is true do the right thing and contact the manufacturer and carriers with it I'm sure that they would like to know. The fact that you haven't already isn't right.
jayfried said:
If what your saying is true do the right thing and contact the manufacturer and carriers with it I'm sure that they would like to know. The fact that you haven't already isn't right.
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I am in full agreement with this statement. However I have no idea where to start. Again this was basically proof of concept until it because a reality. Tested it at least 20 times and every time I've been able to bypass FRP 100%. Even gave it to my director and had him lock it down with fingerprint and google account and 10 minutes later he was speechless.
xboxexpert said:
I am in full agreement with this statement. However I have no idea where to start. Again this was basically proof of concept until it because a reality. Tested it at least 20 times and every time I've been able to bypass FRP 100%. Even gave it to my director and had him lock it down with fingerprint and google account and 10 minutes later he was speechless.
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Pm me the method. I want to try on my phone
I personally would contact MikeChannon (forum admin) at http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=335322 and go from there. I'm all for public disclosure but if you are worried about legal or forum rules I think he'd be more informed.
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The bypass method would not violate any law per se. The only issue that would be in question is if you own the phone or lease it.
Under that specific lease agreement it probably has wording about applying custom software to the phone.
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ESN lockout is what makes turning over a lost or stolen phone difficult. And yet there is a huge grey-market trade on ebay and other places. I image they are all going overseas to get the appropriate chips switched out for resale. And if they have an operation set up for that, physically removing the flash chip and reprograming it would be a breeze. IMHO the lockout is more of a money generator for samsung so they can charge you to unlock it if you lock yourself out.
Describing the process is no more illegal than rooting. And if you figured it out, someone else will too. Only they might not share in hopes of selling the service or profiting somehow.
BlueLightNight said:
ESN lockout is what makes turning over a lost or stolen phone difficult. And yet there is a huge grey-market trade on ebay and other places. I image they are all going overseas to get the appropriate chips switched out for resale. And if they have an operation set up for that, physically removing the flash chip and reprograming it would be a breeze. IMHO the lockout is more of a money generator for samsung so they can charge you to unlock it if you lock yourself out.
Describing the process is no more illegal than rooting. And if you figured it out, someone else will too. Only they might not share in hopes of selling the service or profiting somehow.
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Meaning if I share then I'm opening up a whole new market that will explode as bad as Pokemon Go.....
or meaning someone else will release it anyways in time so whether you release it or not doesnt matter outside of you being "first" lol
xboxexpert said:
Meaning if I share then I'm opening up a whole new market that will explode as bad as Pokemon Go.....
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Actually it would destroy or prevent a market. Markets only exist for those who know how and can do it. At the moment that is Samsung. You don't share it and Samsung makes a bit more money. Then someone else figures it out and they also don't share.... you start seeing adverts on eBay priced a bit below Samsung for the "get back into your phone!" service (or maybe it's just you trying to make a buck ;P ) If you do release it or someone else figures it out and releases it. Well,... we will still see the adverts on ebay for the techna-challenged but it will be a hell of a lot cheaper because it is a known process thus many people offering thus competition.
rootjunky has had an FRP bypass out for months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCvMLdyRuw
PiousInquisitor said:
rootjunky has had an FRP bypass out for months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCvMLdyRuw
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Go try it on your Verizon phone with latest security update patch.
xboxexpert said:
Go try it on your Verizon phone with latest security update patch.
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You try it. My phone is set up and running the way I want it. I'm not going wipe it for a silly reason like proving myself wrong or right. That's your job.
If it works or not isn't the whole point of posting the video. Clearly it's not illegal to expose how to get around FRP. If it were, RootJunky would have been charged and his videos pulled.
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I bought an inexpensive Boost mobile Moto G6 Play XT1922-7 from Walmart incorrectly believing I'd be able to root and network unlock the phone. After browsing through the forum and thanks to the below-mentioned thread, I could root and install magisk on the phone (no idea what purpose these serve). Apparently, that does nothing to network unlock the phone. Also, the phone keeps notifying that some Sprint/Boost native apps are using the battery in the background. My Boost Moto E4 Plus could be unlocked using LineageOS 14.1 as shown in XDA Developers (which I sold off for cool 90 bucks on eBay just after buying this phone - haven't shipped it yet), can I expect the same for this phone? Or should I do something else? This is not my primary phone and I use an LG V20 which dies within 3 hours of screen use and I am really hoping I'd sell off that phone on eBay and use this one as my only phone.
I might sound ignorant or even stupid, please forgive and be kind.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g6/how-to/guide-twrp-root-magisk-installation-t3802715
Rooting isn't the same as unlocking. Rooting is similar to jailbreaking in Iphone terms. It allows you to have more advanced administrator privileges, etc. Allows installing of a custom rom as well. (basically you can install another operating system onto the phone, or at least a highly edited version of the one that's already on there.) But as far as unlocking? I have no idea if that's possible with Boost mobile variants.
SB581240 said:
I bought an inexpensive Boost mobile Moto G6 Play XT1922-7 from Walmart incorrectly believing I'd be able to root and network unlock the phone. After browsing through the forum and thanks to the below-mentioned thread, I could root and install magisk on the phone (no idea what purpose these serve). Apparently, that does nothing to network unlock the phone. Also, the phone keeps notifying that some Sprint/Boost native apps are using the battery in the background. My Boost Moto E4 Plus could be unlocked using LineageOS 14.1 as shown in XDA Developers (which I sold off for cool 90 bucks on eBay just after buying this phone - haven't shipped it yet), can I expect the same for this phone? Or should I do something else? This is not my primary phone and I use an LG V20 which dies within 3 hours of screen use and I am really hoping I'd sell off that phone on eBay and use this one as my only phone.
I might sound ignorant or even stupid, please forgive and be kind.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g6/how-to/guide-twrp-root-magisk-installation-t3802715
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If you do search on it, there are several companies that seem to offer Moto G6 Play unlocks--even for the Boost Mobile version--and they are in the range of $15. Who knows if they work, but they apparently have a money-back guarantee, i.e. if they cannot provide a valid unlock code, they will return your money. I have not really seen any reports of having done this successfully--particularly with the Boost Mobile version, but if you were to have success, I a sure there would be a stampede for this $79 device!
Guys, I have a new XT1922-7 now on Ressurection Remix OS Project Treble Arm Only A version. Someone, please help me restore the original ROM. I didn't backup system image.
Please help me out of this agony and someone please post the original system image.
Now that all the retail versions are available. Can someone please help me with unlocking the Boost mobile network?
SB581240 said:
Now that all the retail versions are available. Can someone please help me with unlocking the Boost mobile network?
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The only one that can do that is Boost Mobile, I don't know how many times you guys have to be told this.
Hi PimpMy5Ton, that's not the case. You can unlock the network using correct radio/modem. For example, using custom ROM available for Boost Mobile Moto E4 plus, I could unlock the phone.
I'd take offense to your indignance, but it's fine, you are just unaware.
Anyone, who knows which fsg.mbn and NON-HLOS.bin would work...
Just because you got it to work on one phone like that doesn't mean it will work on all phones, if you want it unlocked the proper way talk to Boost mobile after you've had it one year
Why are you responding if you have nothing new to add? I have understood your point and thanks for that.
SB581240, just wondering if you have gotten any further with this. The following place says they can unlock the Boost Mobile Moto G6 Play for from ~$11-15. If this is true, I'd go buy myself one now!
https://www.unlockphone.com/motorola/moto-g6-play
verbage said:
SB581240, just wondering if you have gotten any further with this. The following place says they can unlock the Boost Mobile Moto G6 Play for from ~$11-15. If this is true, I'd go buy myself one now!
https://www.unlockphone.com/motorola/moto-g6-play
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Any luck? Most of the times these unlocks only work for international SIM and you won't be able to use domestic sim from Verizon/ AT&T or Tmobile
verbage said:
SB581240, just wondering if you have gotten any further with this. The following place says they can unlock the Boost Mobile Moto G6 Play for from ~$11-15. If this is true, I'd go buy myself one now!
https://www.unlockphone.com/motorola/moto-g6-play
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You'll also find several people offering it as a service on Ebay. With going through them anyways, you'd have a few levels of recourse should they not be able to unlock it. Ebay Buyer protection, Paypal's simliar protection, and last but not least.. your visa or mastercard offers similar assistance. Just a thought.
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Just ignore people like Pimp and Xplorer... they are commonly known antagonists on this site. The *whispers* about them are deafening in my circles. They'd rather waste their time being critical and offensive, than helpful and respectful. But hey, let them... its their time, not ours. Right?
bubbyj said:
You'll also find several people offering it as a service on Ebay. With going through them anyways, you'd have a few levels of recourse should they not be able to unlock it. Ebay Buyer protection, Paypal's simliar protection, and last but not least.. your visa or mastercard offers similar assistance. Just a thought.
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Just ignore people like Pimp and Xplorer... they are commonly known antagonists on this site. The *whispers* about them are deafening in my circles. They'd rather waste their time being critical and offensive, than helpful and respectful. But hey, let them... its their time, not ours. Right?
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This is so kind. The forum felt a little bit like home.
ultrasoul said:
Any luck? Most of the times these unlocks only work for international SIM and you won't be able to use domestic sim from Verizon/ AT&T or Tmobile
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Because of my limited experience with using any of these sites, I can't recommend a specific one with any reasonable degree of confidence. I'd hate to suggest one and then have them screw you over. But, I will say this... it would be worth the risk, considering that its $10ish for many of them. Worst case scenario is that the OP loses his 'lunch money' for the week. Right? Best case, however, is that we will have a positive experience that translates into a definitive knowledge of a working service and your $$ goes towards helping not just you and your phone, but helps the countless others who are looking for a legitimate unlocking solution.
With that said, I actually DO have experience with a specific site and a similar service that I can share. And hopefully my own experience will help you guys make a more confidant decision. Again, its not the same type of unlock you are asking about. However, it'll still provide you with valuable insight.
Long story, short version:
About 15-16 months ago, I found an iPhone SE while metal detecting around some bleachers of the softball field complex here in town. It was a Verizon branded variant. While its not my cup of tea, it's still a rather healthy performer as far as phones go. Antutu scores are well over 100,000 (with highs of up to 140,000). So naturally I was interested in giving it a shot if I could get it unlocked. This one, because it was likely reported lost by the original owner, was iCloud locked and blacklisted from being activated on any of the major provided. I did some google research and found a service with incredible reviews. I'll not give them any free advertising on here, but if you PM I'll give you more details. The service would unlock the cloud account that effectively makes the phone a high performance paperweight. And because it was reported lost/stolen, it was blocked from being used on the major carriers.
I used the *premium* service that guaranteed its removal in less than 24 hours from the blacklist, and also unlocked the icloud account. This upgraded plan was $29.98. They also offered a standard service option that took 3-5 business days, which came at a discount. $14.99 if my memory serves me correct. I was hesitant, to say the least... but I gave it a shot, just on the off chance that it gave me access to a heck of a phone. Low and behold, about 8 hours after purchasing their services, I received a phone call from an Indian man who walked me through all the details, and about 15 minutes later-- I had a *new* iphone SE... which at the time was pretty decent phone!
So yeah... I remain skeptical that most of these types of services and websites are fraudalent. But I can say from first hand experience that it IS possible.
I wish you luck. Let me know if I can help.
Have a wonderful day guys... and just remember, don't pay any attention to the rude comments from others. They seem to measure their self-worth by belittling others, at the expense of their dignity, grace, and integrity.
Like my father always said to me as a kid:
"If I only I could buy that guy for whats he's really worth... and sell him for what he THINKS he is worth... I'd be able to retire today." HAHA!
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Have a wonderful day guys... and just remember, don't pay any attention to the rude comments from others. They seem to measure their self-worth by belittling others, at the expense of th
Like my father always said to me as a kid:
"If I only I could buy that guy for whats he's really worth... and sell him for what he THINKS he is worth... I'd be able to retire today." HAHA!
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But the dude wasn't wrong. You can't unlock this phone by flashing lineage. It doesn't work like that anymore. You can't even do it with the e4 anymore (op said he did with e4) now with the last couple OTA updates. They locked them down.
They have qfuses in place as well which are tripped as soon as you boot the device for the first time with the original sim in it.
One way to avoid this is to remove the original sim before you ever boot the device. No Wi-Fi, no connectivity at all. And skip through the setup wizard.
Then it may be possible to try a different network sim. But this may not even work with this device since there are really no custom ROMs for it (aside from GSI that need fixes to work)
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Why are you responding if you have nothing new to add? I have understood your point and thanks for that.
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I have an idea. If you know where the UICC unlock option is controlled in the firmware, then you may be able to hex edit the carrier unlock for yourself. My best suggestion is to try running a log when selecting the UICC unlock option in settings, then see what it talks to. What you're after isn't impossible, it's just difficult. Don't give up.
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But the dude wasn't wrong. You can't unlock this phone by flashing lineage. It doesn't work like that anymore. You can't even do it with the e4 anymore (op said he did with e4) now with the last couple OTA updates. They locked them down.
They have qfuses in place as well which are tripped as soon as you boot the device for the first time with the original sim in it.
One way to avoid this is to remove the original sim before you ever boot the device. No Wi-Fi, no connectivity at all. And skip through the setup wizard.
Then it may be possible to try a different network sim. But this may not even work with this device since there are really no custom ROMs for it (aside from GSI that need fixes to work)
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Being right or wrong has no bearing on one's attitude and actions.
As you can see, I didn't even get into the actual meat of the subject. I was simply bidding a good day and sending positive vibes towards someone who was poorly treated and spoken to by another.
Thank you for your response and information. It appears you have a deep understanding of the issue, and we all appreciate that.
Most all phones are locked on the carrier side now. I have people ask all the time about it at work and just have to turn them away because only the carrier can.
thats not true
I have successfully unlocked around 65 phone that were locked to boost (I work there part time) I get access to all phones an am in the process of doing this one now if no one resolves I will post the correct meathod. first have to unlock bootloader which can be done by going to motorola offical page then click on dev mode or something at bottom with the word developer then follow instrructions ill post more when get to that point just wanted to make it clear if it has gsm mode and the right tech experience anything is possible . XDA tought me that about 10 years ago love yall btw :good::victory:
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The only one that can do that is Boost Mobile, I don't know how many times you guys have to be told this.
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I think we are all aware of the Verizon issue, but my question is: what is the current hurdle we are trying to get over?
Like, forget the answer, what are the questions? The thing that comes to mind is 42 being the answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything, but the characters in the guide not knowing what question that answers (analogy done).
So, even if we don't know what to do with the following, do we know 1) The steps, 2) What has worked in the past and what is different this time, and 3) what our current hurdle is.
I ask this because I'm genuinely curious, and because combining our efforts towards a, not specific, but general goal might help. Apologies in advance for being a pleb.
I don't mean to be a jerk about it, but what people think they want is to wax philosophically about phone ownership (which is most ironic while paying off a signed contract that proves the device is not yours). In reality what they want is to get a device that already exists at essentially half the cost of one readily available. In the past, exploits were the only way regardless of cost. Some were found with luck and others with a lot of work by a lot of people. All of what has happened in the past is still happening but by a lot less people with a lot less to gain because of the aforementioned availability of a device that doesn't need to be hacked. Heck, you don't even need a Verizon variant PIxel to be on their network. You just need to play by their rules if you want one for THEIR price. I guess that is my philosophic waxing. Keep in mind, I have ran plenty of hacked devices including Verizon ones including the OG Pixel and Pixel XL. The game changed almost immediately after dePixel was patched, and it became obvious that it was just going to be an exercise in futility to hope for it again. Even if an exploit is found, it might include having never upgraded past a certain version and will ultimately be patched immediately possibly in a way that even a non-upgraded phone might be patched for. Instead of worrying about the cat and mouse game, I'll purchase the right device for the price offered if I think it is worth what I gain from it. Punching in my card number for the BL unlockable P3/PX3 hurt when I did it, but I had the money and it was worth it to me. I can now enjoy using what I have instead of complaining about what I don't.
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I don't mean to be a jerk about it, but what people think they want is to wax philosophically about phone ownership (which is most ironic while paying off a signed contract that proves the device is not yours). In reality what they want is to get a device that already exists at essentially half the cost of one readily available. In the past, exploits were the only way regardless of cost. Some were found with luck and others with a lot of work by a lot of people. All of what has happened in the past is still happening but by a lot less people with a lot less to gain because of the aforementioned availability of a device that doesn't need to be hacked. Heck, you don't even need a Verizon variant PIxel to be on their network. You just need to play by their rules if you want one for THEIR price. I guess that is my philosophic waxing. Keep in mind, I have ran plenty of hacked devices including Verizon ones including the OG Pixel and Pixel XL. The game changed almost immediately after dePixel was patched, and it became obvious that it was just going to be an exercise in futility to hope for it again. Even if an exploit is found, it might include having never upgraded past a certain version and will ultimately be patched immediately possibly in a way that even a non-upgraded phone might be patched for. Instead of worrying about the cat and mouse game, I'll purchase the right device for the price offered if I think it is worth what I gain from it. Punching in my card number for the BL unlockable P3/PX3 hurt when I did it, but I had the money and it was worth it to me. I can now enjoy using what I have instead of complaining about what I don't.
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No need to write a manifesto, Karl. My bad, I just graduated high school and I'm still on my parents plan. Surprisingly, I'm aware of such a "carrier-neutral" pixel 3XL, but I didn't have the means (and still don't have the means) to purchase one (and I was just grateful to my parents for the one I did get). Either way, you didn't have to try to be a jerk, you did just fine naturally. Even so, I've already GOT the Verizon Pixel 3XL, and buying a second would understandably be a lot to ask of anyone, unlike a simple answer on a topic directed at those knowledgeable on said topic.
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No need to write a manifesto, Karl. My bad, I just graduated high school and I'm still on my parents plan. Surprisingly, I'm aware of such a "carrier-neutral" pixel 3XL, but I didn't have the means (and still don't have the means) to purchase one (and I was just grateful to my parents for the one I did get). Either way, you didn't have to try to be a jerk, you did just fine naturally. Even so, I've already GOT the Verizon Pixel 3XL, and buying a second would understandably be a lot to ask of anyone, unlike a simple answer on a topic directed at those knowledgeable on said topic.
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Just to be sure that others know what you are talking about since your reply talks about "carrier-neutral" devices... Verizon contemplated locking their devices to the Verizon network and backed off. Both the Google and Verizon variants can be ran on other networks. I was talking about bootloader unlocking and rooting and nothing more. As far as I know, you can even put a phone on another network while paying Verizon your installments. Love the Karl Marx reference, BTW. His logic was flawed too, but it is still fun to read in a bubble world that I haven't lived in for the 30+ years since I was where you are now. Hope you find your answers, and I really do mean that.
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Just to be sure that others know what you are talking about since your reply talks about "carrier-neutral" devices... Verizon contemplated locking their devices to the Verizon network and backed off. Both the Google and Verizon variants can be ran on other networks. I was talking about bootloader unlocking and rooting and nothing more. As far as I know, you can even put a phone on another network while paying Verizon your installments. Love the Karl Marx reference, BTW. His logic was flawed too, but it is still fun to read in a bubble world that I haven't lived in for the 30+ years since I was where you are now. Hope you find your answers, and I really do mean that.
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Does the term I used matter? The usage goes like this: sold by Google=carrier-neutral. That's not the only attribute that term grants; you know that, because you're obviously aware that pixel 3's sold by Google can be unlocked bootloader-wise. So the phone that is Sold by Google ("carrier-neutral") can have its bootloader unlocked.
I genuinely don't believe you mean that because you came here to give an answer to a different question (that no one asked by the way), and now want to leave triumphantly after pointing out a technicality like you just won a debate at a forensics competition, while receiving an Emmy at the Olympic Curling award ceremony going on in your head.
Get over yourself.
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Does the term I used matter? The usage goes like this: sold by Google=carrier-neutral. That's not the only attribute that term grants; you know that, because you're obviously aware that pixel 3's sold by Google can be unlocked bootloader-wise. So the phone that is Sold by Google ("carrier-neutral") can have its bootloader unlocked.
I genuinely don't believe you mean that because you came here to give an answer to a different question (that no one asked by the way), and now want to leave triumphantly after pointing out a technicality like you just won a debate at a forensics competition, while receiving an Emmy at the Olympic Curling award ceremony going on in your head.
Get over yourself.
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Not trying to leave triumphantly at all. I was waiting for your reply and at least now I know that we were talking about the same thing. As for you believing me or not, I just don't care. Your original reply confused me, and seemed like maybe I misunderstood the OP. No technicality pointed out in that case. Now, we can both have me off of your thread neither triumphantly nor award winning. Enjoy your day.
No working root for note10+ US snapdragon in site you say??? A few months back @elliwigy with extreme syndicate release a working root method for the note 9 snapdragon, they did this by exploiting the combo files to bypass the locked boot-loader issue with newer US Samsung models. I was curious to see if this can also be achieved on the us note 10 plus. I have been working on that very problem but i seem to have hit a wall could use some fresh input. Is anybody else actively working on this if so I would like to team up and solve this problem....
yours in good code,
-C-Dubbenstein-
Would be nice when and if. Good luck. I picked up my vzw note 10plus on day 1 here in US. Never updated anything other than play store apps for in the event a root or maybe even a bootloader unlock would come to. Neither of which I'm holding my breath on. But I'm optimistic. These are strange times we live in so who knows.
Good luck nonetheless,
~SG
SomeGuy2008 said:
Would be nice when and if. Good luck. I picked up my vzw note 10plus on day 1 here in US. Never updated anything other than play store apps for in the event a root or maybe even a bootloader unlock would come to. Neither of which I'm holding my breath on. But I'm optimistic. These are strange times we live in so who knows.
Good luck nonetheless,
~SG
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Well I seen this morning there is an unlocking method for $150 just need to confirm if itll work for the + models also
see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-20-ultra/how-to/root-note-20-ultra-version-t4165703
appears to cover n10 among few other
Anyone tried this rooting/ bootloader unlock method successfully on an SM-N976U Note 10+5G from Tmo?
Sent from my SM-N976U 5G using XDA-Developers Legacy app
This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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Then don't do it. I know the guys too. And they are legit. So it's no one loss but your own. I wouldn't hesitate. Next time you want root or such buy a device that can be out the door
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Then don't do it. I know the guys too. And they are legit. So it's no one loss but your own. I wouldn't hesitate. Next time you want root or such buy a device that can be out the door
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I did not say that they are not legit nor that I have something against them.
My point is that the variables on this endeavor are complex and thin, not so much transparency.
I do own an 975F, so I don't loose anything.
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I did not say that they are not legit nor that I have something against them.
My point is that the variables on this endeavor are complex and thin, not so much transparency.
I do own an 975F, so I don't loose anything.
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Right now it's the only way to get the eng tokens based of the did of your device. I just see so many people talking crap. That they'll end up closing up shop and screw the rest of us in the future when we need em. Where all know about us locked bootloader since the s5 s6. By now most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
w41ru5 said:
This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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so the reply you quoted is someone who is paranoid or mad that its not "free".. most good things in life are not free..
a. I am known very much so in the community and have been around a decade or so.. have been only dev really providing root (for free) on xda since the s8 and posted many other dev projects overthe years before that
b. I respond as soon as physically possible so u will get a reply. also to add im not shady at all, in fact theres a plethora of notes which users must read everything before theyre even able to send anything.
c. usb redirector is a very common tool that most legit services use for various things such as sim unlocks, frp bypasses or w.e other services are out there in the world. it also DOES NOT allow full control of ur computer lmao.. it only allows them to see the device plugged into usb which is what allows remote services to be dont.. u basically plug device in and with usb redirector itll appear as if its plugged in to the remote computer so they can unlock the device.
d. if something goes wrong bcuz the user didnt read all the notes, provided wrong did or something after repeated warnings, notes, having them triple check then thats their own fault. If it is an issue with the service then a refund is given. This is common practice. If you go to an antique store and break something chances are u will have to pay for it, same concept.
e. theres multiple ways. chat, xda, email, pymbt is done in venmo usually so u also have access to personal facebook account if need be. Encryption for chat isnt really necessary.. im sure real hackers have more important things to do then try and somehow steal a random chat for a did they cant do anything with anyways lol
its also not 150.. only flip 2 is 150 which very few ppl have anyways.. but i do agree, you can do a lot with 150 and of course saving money over two years is a good idea lol
and absolutely, we luv sd chips bcuz its consistently superior than exynos as well as exynos doesnt have good functionallity on usa networks.. why buy a exynos if ur in usa and not have any carrier features or 5g etc?
thats just my 2 cents lol
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so the reply you quoted is someone who is paranoid or mad that its not "free".. most good things in life are not free..
a. I am known very much so in the community and have been around a decade or so.. have been only dev really providing root (for free) on xda since the s8 and posted many other dev projects overthe years before that
b. I respond as soon as physically possible so u will get a reply. also to add im not shady at all, in fact theres a plethora of notes which users must read everything before theyre even able to send anything.
c. usb redirector is a very common tool that most legit services use for various things such as sim unlocks, frp bypasses or w.e other services are out there in the world. it also DOES NOT allow full control of ur computer lmao.. it only allows them to see the device plugged into usb which is what allows remote services to be dont.. u basically plug device in and with usb redirector itll appear as if its plugged in to the remote computer so they can unlock the device.
d. if something goes wrong bcuz the user didnt read all the notes, provided wrong did or something after repeated warnings, notes, having them triple check then thats their own fault. If it is an issue with the service then a refund is given. This is common practice. If you go to an antique store and break something chances are u will have to pay for it, same concept.
e. theres multiple ways. chat, xda, email, pymbt is done in venmo usually so u also have access to personal facebook account if need be. Encryption for chat isnt really necessary.. im sure real hackers have more important things to do then try and somehow steal a random chat for a did they cant do anything with anyways lol
its also not 150.. only flip 2 is 150 which very few ppl have anyways.. but i do agree, you can do a lot with 150 and of course saving money over two years is a good idea lol
and absolutely, we luv sd chips bcuz its consistently superior than exynos as well as exynos doesnt have good functionallity on usa networks.. why buy a exynos if ur in usa and not have any carrier features or 5g etc?
thats just my 2 cents lol
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I must apologize for the fact that I didn't know that you are the person dealing with this root possibility. I know the type of your work, but didn't think it can be also a different one too.
I also have great respect for you, so again, I'm sorry.
I understood that it was a completely other unknown person related to this situation. My ignorant answer(s) were based on that.
To be more clear, I do not live in US and can't buy an US SD with similar carrier conditions. I have access to Exynos as purchase and warranty. I'm satisfied with it.
It is totally my fault being to superficial in getting the correct (somehow an interesting/challenging one) context of this talk.
Therefore I apologize again.
Best regards.
w41ru5 said:
I must apologize for the fact that I didn't know that you are the person dealing with this root possibility. I know the type of your work, but didn't think it can be also a different one too.
I also have great respect for you, so again, I'm sorry.
I understood that it was a completely other unknown person related to this situation. My ignorant answer(s) were based on that.
To be more clear, I do not live in US and can't buy an US SD with similar carrier conditions. I have access to Exynos as purchase and warranty. I'm satisfied with it.
It is totally my fault being to superficial in getting the correct (somehow an interesting/challenging one) context of this talk.
Therefore I apologize again.
Best regards.
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lol no need to apologize.. just as someone else stated a "paid" service or even unlock in general for some reason ppl have a hard time believing but with everything else theres always goimg to be a few out there that will be quick to downplay it.
Of course some points/concerns im sure are very real to some ppl and paid services are frowned upon on xda for valid reasons with one being some ppl will be triggered and unfortunately sometimes post innapropriately lol
i dont really talk about it much for obvious reasons
elliwigy said:
lol no need to apologize.. just as someone else stated a "paid" service or even unlock in general for some reason ppl have a hard time believing but with everything else theres always goimg to be a few out there that will be quick to downplay it.
Of course some points/concerns im sure are very real to some ppl and paid services are frowned upon on xda for valid reasons with one being some ppl will be triggered and unfortunately sometimes post innapropriately lol
i dont really talk about it much for obvious reasons
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So you trust the method to get the note 10+ snapdragon rooted? Do you or does anyone know anyone who has done it thats given feedback besides Mad Scientist saying he knows them? What would you say is the best option of a note 10+/model number that can be rooted?
A non related question, is there a recommended carrier unlock company you'd recommend, i use a tmobile note 10+. Is unlockriver legit?
Lol
dominick_7 said:
So you trust the method to get the note 10+ snapdragon rooted? Do you or does anyone know anyone who has done it thats given feedback besides Mad Scientist saying he knows them? What would you say is the best option of a note 10+/model number that can be rooted?
A non related question, is there a recommended carrier unlock company you'd recommend, i use a tmobile note 10+. Is unlockriver legit?
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if u can find the group then yes, theres many that will vouch
most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
AceDaMack said:
Well I seen this morning there is an unlocking method for $150 just need to confirm if itll work for the + models also
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Looking for more info, contact me please
scuubee01 said:
Looking for more info, contact me please
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Hard to search and read?
instruction for noobs
TheMadScientist said:
Right now it's the only way to get the eng tokens based of the did of your device. I just see so many people talking crap. That they'll end up closing up shop and screw the rest of us in the future when we need em. Where all know about us locked bootloader since the s5 s6. By now most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
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thats insane! for that much i could buy an octoplus with a years license and then charge everyone visiting these threads $20 to bootloader and/or sim unlock their devices. whats the incentive to use that kind of service. ive never even heard of a remote frp fix for more than $30.
mityakaramazov1866 said:
thats insane! for that much i could buy an octoplus with a years license and then charge everyone visiting these threads $20 to bootloader and/or sim unlock their devices. whats the incentive to use that kind of service. ive never even heard of a remote frp fix for more than $30.
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Well then do it