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Basically what you see above is what I'm trying to get rid of, to allow software like Papyrus to use the S-Pen's button for gestures. I've tried to play around with things as much as I'm comfortable with *nix systems, but I can't find how Samsung implemented this feature. And is this something that can be removed from the ROM itself? I don't know where to start.
kevincop said:
(picture hosted by slashgear, don't have my device with me right now, will upload my own)
Basically what you see above is what I'm trying to get rid of, to allow software like Papyrus to use the S-Pen's button for gestures. I've tried to play around with things as much as I'm comfortable with *nix systems, but I can't find how Samsung implemented this feature. And is this something that can be removed from the ROM itself? I don't know where to start.
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If you're just asking about the wheel that pops up you can turn that off by going to: settings - controls - spen; Then under the header "Air View" is the option to turn off "Air Command", which is the function that brings up that wheel when you are hovering and click the button.
Withut root I don't know about turning off the s pen actions for the lasso screen shot (holding button while circling an area), or full screen shot (holding butting an tapping screen). But, if you were rooted, then the app GMD spen control allows you to "overtake" samsungs gestures to use the apps predefined spen gestures or to use custom defined gestures (only for when the pen is touching the screen and button is pressed, not for hover gestures).
mmcnulty said:
If you're just asking about the wheel that pops up you can turn that off by going to: settings - controls - spen; Then under the header "Air View" is the option to turn off "Air Command", which is the function that brings up that wheel when you are hovering and click the button.
Withut root I don't know about turning off the s pen actions for the lasso screen shot (holding button while circling an area), or full screen shot (holding butting an tapping screen). But, if you were rooted, then the app GMD spen control allows you to "overtake" samsungs gestures to use the apps predefined spen gestures or to use custom defined gestures (only for when the pen is touching the screen and button is pressed, not for hover gestures).
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It's great that Air View can be disabled.
Cool. Thank you! GMD is a great workaround. I appreciate it.
I am still open to learning how to do away with the lasso screenshot feature altogether, at the ROM level.
mmcnulty said:
If you're just asking about the wheel that pops up you can turn that off by going to: settings - controls - spen; Then under the header "Air View" is the option to turn off "Air Command", which is the function that brings up that wheel when you are hovering and click the button.
Withut root I don't know about turning off the s pen actions for the lasso screen shot (holding button while circling an area), or full screen shot (holding butting an tapping screen). But, if you were rooted, then the app GMD spen control allows you to "overtake" samsungs gestures to use the apps predefined spen gestures or to use custom defined gestures (only for when the pen is touching the screen and button is pressed, not for hover gestures).
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I finally rooted the device on stock firmware and installed GMD sPen Control. It doesn't allow Papyrus to use the sPen buttons however. It does disable the screenshot feature and enables other sPen gestures, but that's not quite what I'm after.
Thank you once again for the suggestion.
kevincop said:
I finally rooted the device on stock firmware and installed GMD sPen Control. It doesn't allow Papyrus to use the sPen buttons however. It does disable the screenshot feature and enables other sPen gestures, but that's not quite what I'm after.
Thank you once again for the suggestion.
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The below may be helpful to you regarding each of the tabs/pages in GMD spen (especially User gestures):
1 ) -Gestures - Pre defined gestures with the app that you can turn on or off, as well as disabling samsungs gestures. (I personally turn off most of these so I have more gestures available as custom gestures.
A helpful gesture to keep is when holding the button and swiping down from the top of the screen, which will pause gmd gestures (not take their input) and activate samsungs gestures again. So if you want to do a lasso screen shot just by holding the button and circling, first pause the gestures, then do that, then unpause.
2) -User Gestures - Create your own gestures. Heres an example that may help you: Select "+ Path". --> In the field for Gesture Path write "T-T" --> For action select Action then Samsung Note Actions then Air Command --> For starting zone select bottom half of screen. Save it. Then repeat this but for action go through the same menu and pick Action Memo, and for starting zone select top half of screen.
Now whenever you double tap with the button in the top half - Action Note pops up, in the bottom half, the air command wheel pops up.
Obviously you can do this however you want, this was just an example.
3) -Launchpad - Just a menu of pre selected (by you) apps/shortcuts you can bring up with a gesture.
4) Blacklist - Select apps that when they are opened up and active GMD spen will pause your gesture commands (not take them as inputs), but I think this will then activate samsungs gestures inside that app.
5.) Settings
***Blacklist - List apps
mmcnulty said:
The below may be helpful to you regarding each of the tabs/pages in GMD spen (especially User gestures):
1 ) -Gestures - Pre defined gestures with the app that you can turn on or off, as well as disabling samsungs gestures. (I personally turn off most of these so I have more gestures available as custom gestures.
A helpful gesture to keep is when holding the button and swiping down from the top of the screen, which will pause gmd gestures (not take their input) and activate samsungs gestures again. So if you want to do a lasso screen shot just by holding the button and circling, first pause the gestures, then do that, then unpause.
2) -User Gestures - Create your own gestures. Heres an example that may help you: Select "+ Path". --> In the field for Gesture Path write "T-T" --> For action select Action then Samsung Note Actions then Air Command --> For starting zone select bottom half of screen. Save it. Then repeat this but for action go through the same menu and pick Action Memo, and for starting zone select top half of screen.
Now whenever you double tap with the button in the top half - Action Note pops up, in the bottom half, the air command wheel pops up.
Obviously you can do this however you want, this was just an example.
3) -Launchpad - Just a menu of pre selected (by you) apps/shortcuts you can bring up with a gesture.
4) Blacklist - Select apps that when they are opened up and active GMD spen will pause your gesture commands (not take them as inputs), but I think this will then activate samsungs gestures inside that app.
5.) Settings
***Blacklist - List apps
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I appreciate it very much. I went through these options and test blacklisting an app as well. Unfortunately Papyrus still doesn't "see" the gestures. GMD does, and when paused, Samsung screenshot feature does.
I also read up on the rest of the app documentation and can't seem to find a viable way to do this. I did message the app creator for clarification, hopefully I'll get a reply.
kevincop said:
I appreciate it very much. I went through these options and test blacklisting an app as well. Unfortunately Papyrus still doesn't "see" the gestures. GMD does, and when paused, Samsung screenshot feature does.
I also read up on the rest of the app documentation and can't seem to find a viable way to do this. I did message the app creator for clarification, hopefully I'll get a reply.
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If you are talking about air gestures, you did go into the tablets settings and turn off air command correct?
If you are talking about gestures while touching the screen, then you should just be able to disable any of the built in GMD gestures that are creating the conflict. If they are still things you'd like to be able to do, then just assign different gestures that dont conflict.
I use hover commands in Lecture Notes without any issue.
mmcnulty said:
If you are talking about air gestures, you did go into the tablets settings and turn off air command correct?
If you are talking about gestures while touching the screen, then you should just be able to disable any of the built in GMD gestures that are creating the conflict. If they are still things you'd like to be able to do, then just assign different gestures that dont conflict.
I use hover commands in Lecture Notes without any issue.
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I am not talking about any gestures per say, just free usage of the spen inside third party apps such as papyrus. I did disable air command, although it has nothing to do with it.
Basically I was expecting that once I disable the Samsung gestures it would somehow disable the service that Samsung runs that gets in between the spend button usage and the application. But that layer is not disabled, it's just it's actions that are prevented from running by GMD.
Hope this makes sense.
Thank you!
You guys using them?
It is good and I wanted to use them badly but one main thing I am missing is the additional gestures that the navigation buttons had with them.
I use to double tap on recent button to switch screen off which is not possible to do with new gestures.
Having additional app or using the physical button is what I wanted to avoid.
have been using them long time ago with the app swipe navigation. Works perfectly once you get used to it.
I'm a minimalist. I have my dock & notification bar hidden also. Love that clean approach. Best part is if anyone finds/steals it, that are clueless.
Has there been a port of the new swipe guestures to nougat? I'm on 7.1.1
I am using gesture swipes, it is nice way to use phone without buttons... For double tap to lock, there is way if you are using Nova for example.....
With Beta 7 you can double tap to sleep without nav bar
You lose all of the additional gestures you have with the navbar, but in my opinion it looks way cleaner and really emphasizes the big display. And also one less spot risking permanent burn-in!
While I do like the off-screen gestures, and do use them, I actually prefer Motorola's gestures where you can quickly 'wave' you're phone in the air and the flashlight turns on, or how you can give the phone a flick and the camera app open. It's faster IMO.
But I still would prefer a Oneplus 5t over any Motorola anyday.
Love em, with an advanced launcher like Action or Nova you've got a ton more gestures that can be assigned covering the lost shortcuts on the nav buttons and then some. Speaking for myself I've got leftover swipes and taps that remain unassigned and can get to anything I use with regularity with a single touch. I liked some of the Motorola stuff myself, like Oneplus they've kept to a mostly stock experience with genuinely useful adds that don't detract from the "stockness". For some reason I really liked being able to change the ok google command to whatever I wanted and that would probably be my top pick if Oneplus were to, ahem, borrow, something from them.
Disabled them all got tired of accidentally turning the flashlight on
What I think would be the most useful feature is iPhone's double tap (not click) to bring down UI on top. Android should support this native long ago...
Needs tweaking..Still using xposed edge gestures, because I'd like for swipe up Near back button for back, swipe up near home bottom to home, and swipe up near recents to recents. i only use this mode to disable annoying nav bar easily
Siljorfag said:
What I think would be the most useful feature is iPhone's double tap (not click) to bring down UI on top. Android should support this native long ago...
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This can be done with many of the launchers although swipe down (anywhere) fits in better with the notification shade as it already expands via swipe down. I suspect the reason it and many other things aren't standard is a lack of consensus. With the shade already working with swipes many of us have double tap allocated elsewhere the most common usage probably being for sleep and wake purposes.
It's always hard to tell the level of experience users have so don't take this the wrong way... Your post suggests you might want to consider taking a few launchers for a test drive because no matter what you like there is one that works better than what came stock.
Coming from a OP7Pro, I have to say that these new Google gestures suck. Can no longer swipe from the sides to call up a side menu in various apps because swiping in from the sides now takes me back. I miss the old gestures where everything was done from the bottom:
Swipe up, bottom left/right: back
Swipe up, center: home
Swipe up and hold, center: recent apps
Trying to find a way to get those back but can't. Thought I hit the jackpot with the process in the link below, but I have an issue afterwards where swiping up from left/right of bottom combines both back and home commands and always takes me home.
Anybody have any ideas?
Revert back to old swipe gestures on OnePlus in Android 10 (OxygenOS 10) update
Here is how to get th old swipe gestures from Android 9 Pie on OnePlus phones running Android 10 (OxygenOS 10). Revert back to old Oxygen OS swipe gesture navigation on OnePlus 5/6/7/8.
www.androidsage.com
I think this method just disables the "swipe from left/right = back" function.
It does not enable "swipe up from bottom left or bottom right = back" like in the good old days.
I'm coming from a one+ 6... So also an adjustment for me...
I think OnePlus is trying to default all the things, left and right swipe is Google's implementation.
Me too i'm coming from a OP6 and want those gestures back, i already made a suggestion on OP site but i don't think it will happen since there were people on op8 who also wanted them but didn't get it.
Also with gestures app, i couldn't hide the navigation button bar with adb command so it wont work too
I personally like swipe from side for back. What they could do is make it work only in bottom 2/3 of the screen while the top 1/3 would be for bringing up hamburger menus. That's how it was with my old honor (which I hated) but this one feature really made sense.
elodin_89 said:
Coming from a OP7Pro, I have to say that these new Google gestures suck. Can no longer swipe from the sides to call up a side menu in various apps because swiping in from the sides now takes me back. I miss the old gestures where everything was done from the bottom:
Swipe up, bottom left/right: back
Swipe up, center: home
Swipe up and hold, center: recent apps
Trying to find a way to get those back but can't. Thought I hit the jackpot with the process in the link below, but I have an issue afterwards where swiping up from left/right of bottom combines both back and home commands and always takes me home.
Anybody have any ideas?
Revert back to old swipe gestures on OnePlus in Android 10 (OxygenOS 10) update
Here is how to get th old swipe gestures from Android 9 Pie on OnePlus phones running Android 10 (OxygenOS 10). Revert back to old Oxygen OS swipe gesture navigation on OnePlus 5/6/7/8.
www.androidsage.com
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I got it to work.
With Substratum Lite, NoNavbar.apk and the app Fluid Gesstures.
LINK to thread.
Bunecarera said:
I think this method just disables the "swipe from left/right = back" function.
It does not enable "swipe up from bottom left or bottom right = back" like in the good old days.
I'm coming from a one+ 6... So also an adjustment for me...
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Actually I think that method do bring back corner swipe = back gesture, the problem is that swipe up from bottom = home takes the whole bottom, it will get triggered with the back gesture.
You can confirm that by swipe from corner slowly, if you careful enough, you can only trigger back without trigger home action, or at least see two gestures are being triggered at once. Another proof is that after getting back home by swipe up from corner, if you open the app from recent apps switch, you can see that the app indeed got a back action(return to last page)
So I think if we can find a way to narrow the range for bottom swipe = home action, we can get this to work almost perfectly.
zjhjack123 said:
Actually I think that method do bring back corner swipe = back gesture, the problem is that swipe up from bottom = home takes the whole bottom, it will get triggered with the back gesture.
You can confirm that by swipe from corner slowly, if you careful enough, you can only trigger back without trigger home action, or at least see two gestures are being triggered at once. Another proof is that after getting back home by swipe up from corner, if you open the app from recent apps switch, you can see that the app indeed got a back action(return to last page)
So I think if we can find a way to narrow the range for bottom swipe = home action, we can get this to work almost perfectly.
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I have no idea what you mean dude
With Fluid Gestures, I have 3 areas at the bottom.
Left is back.
Middle is Home and Recent apps with Swipe&Hold
Right area is Back
And then I also have the Right Side set up to switch between apps.
See screenshots.
Bunecarera said:
I got it to work.
With Substratum Lite, NoNavbar.apk and the app Fluid Gesstures.
LINK to thread.
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Nice, thanks for the tip. I'll try this. I have previously tried gesture apps but since Google removed that overscan item starting with 10/11 that rendered 3rd party gesture apps useless, they didn't work and I gave up. But I did not try with substratum or run in to that thread you linked.
Bunecarera said:
I got it to work.
With Substratum Lite, NoNavbar.apk and the app Fluid Gesstures.
LINK to thread.
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Got it working. It wasn't working initially, then I realized I had to change from Gestures to Nav Bar Navigation within the phone settings. Thanks so much! It's getting closer to feeling like my 7 Pro!
Bunecarera said:
I have no idea what you mean dude
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What I mean is by using "settings put system op_gesture_button_side_enabled" method you do get the swipe up from bottom left or bottom right = back gesture. The only problem is you will always trigger swipe up from bottom = home/recent gesture alone with it, so it seems swipe up from bottom corner is not working.
I think if we can find some way to change the swipe up from bottom = home/recent gesture area, just trigger it by swipe up from bottom center we might get the original OP7 gesture to work.
Tell me the system version number, maybe I can make changes
mlgmxyysd said:
Tell me the system version number, maybe I can make changes
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I'm now on oos 11.2.4.4.LE15AA
zjhjack123 said:
What I mean is by using "settings put system op_gesture_button_side_enabled" method you do get the swipe up from bottom left or bottom right = back gesture. The only problem is you will always trigger swipe up from bottom = home/recent gesture alone with it, so it seems swipe up from bottom corner is not working.
I think if we can find some way to change the swipe up from bottom = home/recent gesture area, just trigger it by swipe up from bottom center we might get the original OP7 gesture to work.
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Sorry, misread.
I thought you were talking about the NoNavbar route.
That's true.
The "settings put..." method does not work.
I do not think you can alter the bottom area to consist of 3 different touch area's. Left, center, right. And change the width of them.
But the link I provided does work.
Substratum lite, NoNavbar, Fluid Gestures.
I am using it right now...
Bunecarera said:
I do not think you can alter the bottom area to consist of 3 different touch area's. Left, center, right. And change the width of them.
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We don't have to split the bottom area to three parts, just limit the home/recent gesture to center so it wont be triggered by swipe up from bottom corner should do the trick.
zjhjack123 said:
我现在在oos 11.2.4.4.LE15AA
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I've done that but still have Home+Back bug and settings pref display bug (8T 11.0.8.13)
Bunecarera said:
I got it to work.
With Substratum Lite, NoNavbar.apk and the app Fluid Gesstures.
LINK to thread.
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I love you.
I like "Lift phone to ear to answer a call" gesture.
I posted on Oneplus. They answer to talk to Google...
O posted on Google.., no answer.
I upgraded from OxygenOS (android 10) to KOSP 2.3 (running android 12) on my OnePlus 7 Pro. Everything about KOSP is better than OEM OOS except the stock A12 gestures. I wanted to run "Vivid Navigation Gestures" but the damn navbar was baked into the ROM.
This was the first solution I found that worked to hide the navbar! Thanks for posting!
As the title said... I use a lot lmt launcher and i orefer to use it as border Action (left and right).
In op7 i had lower gesture that are very very usefull. In op9pro there aren't this type of gesture and the only way to use the gesture is with the "workaround" on xxx_nolimts that disable the lateral "back". But... Xxx_nolimts still not be supported and i think that when op start with android 12 rollout will not work anymore.
Any ideas to obtain the old lower gestures?
Hi,
Unfortunately you can't.
Have you tried Substratum Lite, No_Nav.apk and Fluid Gestures Navigation ?
That's what I use to have swipes for back at the bottom. Left and right side: swipe for back.
Middle bottom: swipe for home.
And swipe for next or previous app at the right of the screen, with 2 zones.
custom roms allow nav off to allow for overlay gestures
Thanks... Is what i need! I will try
Hello!
I received my Google 6 Pro yesterday and everything seems to work - lucky. Even the fingerprint sensor works quite well, significantly better than on my Xaomi Mi Note 10 Pro before - despite the protective film.
But what really bothers me: How should I reach the back key with my right thumb? Gesture control is nothing for me. So I would have to remap the soft keys: Last apps left, Home in the middle and back on the right. However, this doesn't seem to work that easily since Android 10.
Is there a solution?
Thanks very much
I used the Fabricated Overlays app to hide the NavBar then used Fluid Navigation Gestures to get swipe up from the bottom right to go back, middle to go home, and left for recents. It's very similar to the Samsung gestures and gives you the extra screen real estate.
El-Chico said:
Hello!
I received my Google 6 Pro yesterday and everything seems to work - lucky. Even the fingerprint sensor works quite well, significantly better than on my Xaomi Mi Note 10 Pro before - despite the protective film.
But what really bothers me: How should I reach the back key with my right thumb? Gesture control is nothing for me. So I would have to remap the soft keys: Last apps left, Home in the middle and back on the right. However, this doesn't seem to work that easily since Android 10.
Is there a solution?
Thanks very much
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I recommend "edge gestures"
I swipe down on the sides to return to home screen and swipe up for recents. However, you can customize the gestures to your liking. For example I have touch and hold on the edge to drop down the notification window. I have a large hand and using the stock gestures is frustrating.