Develop Bugs

Overall happy with V30

Coming from the S8+ and I could not be happier. The camera just amazes me. I forced myself this weekend to use the modes. What a great phone.
Thoughts?

Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.

lyall29 said:
Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. It's only missing two things in my opinion.
- LED indicator
- Better front camera
I also didn't realize the benefit of having the headphone jack on the bottom until this phone.

Yeah I also prefer the headphone jack to be on the bottom.

Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

melihcarter said:
Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah this makes no sense. I'm not married to this phone and want the best I can have. I honestly love this phone. I've considered sending back to get the XL 2 and that's merely for software updates. Not worth the lack in hardware, imo.

I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
Sent from my LG-H931 using Tapatalk

melihcarter said:
Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought it was weird as well. I think I read that they were testing a Korean version for whatever reason. I'm guessing it's all that they were able to get a hold of while they tested, but it seems a bit unfair of them to not wait for a US carrier model like every other reputable publication.

bricky23 said:
I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
Sent from my LG-H931 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All it takes to prove this right is a quick read of their opinion regarding the V30 audio/headphone jack. I know of basically a whole forum of people who would kill for a phone that has awesome audio and headphone jack. Problem is that the manufacturers can't seem to build a phone with that and everything else.
Sent from my G8142 using Tapatalk

I was a "never again" LG guy ...
So far, so good. Very happy with the V30.
In fact, for the most part, I actually like their skin over the stock Android from my Nexus. Few tweaks would really make it more useful, but no issue.

My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output

melihcarter said:
Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.

liam_davenport said:
My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Camera is great, but not the best and audio output through the headphone jack is the best. I say the camera is not the best overall, but for me it kind of is because I would rather have the wide angle instead lens of 2x zoom.

Picked up my V30 from T-Mobile last night. My immediate impressions, coming from an S8 and previously a Pixel XL are that this phone is great but does have some immediate flaws.
Some initial thoughts:
- The finger print scanner is blazing fast. On par with my old OnePlus 3 and my Pixel XL. In comparison, the Samsung S8 fingerprint scanner is slow, often unresponsive, and in a horrible position.
- I work from my home office full time and I spend A LOT of time on client calls. I often have headphones plugged into my phone for these calls. I just got off of a conference call and could immediately tell that the audio output through even pretty basic in-ear headphones is significantly better than my S8 was. Voice clarity is much improved and people sound more like they are in the room with you, rather than on a conference call. This is HUGE for me. And I imagine that music quality will see this same improvement through the headphones.
- I was happy to see that there was SIGNIFICANTLY less bloatware to uninstall/disable on this phone than their was on my Samsung S8.
- The overall UI is extremely fluid and fast. The speed of opening quick settings and the notification drop down, navigating through settings, and swapping between apps is on par with my Pixel XL, which is a breath of fresh air coming from the S8. However, there is still some lag to be had within apps, but I'll discuss that below.
- The camera is excellent. I'm not seeing any blurry photos, as others have apparently seen.
The negatives...
- The stock LG dialer and messages apps are hilariously ugly. I was able to get a new theme installed, which cleaned those up a bit but it still doesn't compare to the stock Google dialer/messages apps. Future "Pixel" style themes for the V30 will likely fix this, though.
- I have seen noticeable and consistent scroll lag in some apps like Chrome, Instagram, Facebook, and even in LG's own themes app. I've changed animation scaling to .5x and enabled GPU rendering in developer settings but I haven't seen an improvement. I've only had my phone for about 12 hours at this point so I'm going to give it more time to adapt. However, if this doesn't improve and/or starts effecting more apps over time, it might actually be a deal breaker for me.
- I compared the Pixel 2 XL to the V30, side by side, in my local Verizon store. The front facing speakers on the 2 XL put the single bottom facing speaker on the V30 to complete shame. The downside is that those front facing speakers come with larger bezels, though. Unfortunately, in my short time using the V30, I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom speaker more than once.
I still have my Pixel 2 XL on order and at the moment, I don't intend to cancel it. If I find that the lag I'm seeing in some apps does not improve over time, I'll probably return the V30 and hold out for my 2 XL. I don't want to give up wireless charging or the headphone jack. But I will if I have to, in order to get a 100% lag free phone. Especially at this $800+ price point.

eduardmc said:
owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. I've tried LG's cleaner app and that doesn't help. I've tried enabling the force GPU rendering, and that doesn't help for me either. I'm hoping that future updates help out. This phone is the perfect size and feels so nice in the hand. I really don't want a different phone, so I'm going to wait and see if it gets better.
---------- Post added at 03:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:15 PM ----------
@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.

melihcarter said:
I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He's saying that compared to the Samsung S8/S8+/Note 8 screens, the LG V30 screen doesn't look as good. I do concur with this. I wouldn't go back to the S8 because I much prefer the overall feel and UI of the V30. However, compared to the screen on my S8, the V30's screen looks noticeably washed out. My current long term decision is between the V30 or the Pixel 2 XL, which essentially share the same screen. So this is not much of a consideration for me. However, I could actually see this being a deal breaker for some.
lyall29 said:
[/COLOR]@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.

sn0warmy said:
That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They do replace the stock LG apps. You just have to make sure and set them as your default dialer and message apps

lyall29 said:
I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.

My G6 has weird, terrible lag sometimes too. A reboot does fix it, but waiting a while sometimes makes it go away too. I know this is a V30 forum, but sad to see this issue persists across these 2 devices. Its not a deal breaker for me, but sure is something that I experience way too often on a 2017 smartphone.
sn0warmy said:
Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

LG V30 battery life thread

As no one has started a better life thread yet, I thought I'd start one. Mine has been great and today is no exception.

most phones do well on wi-fi. I'd love to see the results from a day on mobile data. That separates the wheat from the chaff

mwatson said:
most phones do well on wi-fi. I'd love to see the results from a day on mobile data. That separates the wheat from the chaff
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is with only a couple hours on Wi-Fi. Mostly data and half the time spent inside a building at work

mwatson said:
most phones do well on wi-fi. I'd love to see the results from a day on mobile data. That separates the wheat from the chaff
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My bad wrong time on battery picture.
The one with 18 hours off battery I had over 7 hours screen on time

That's how it should look

So this was mostly on WiFi. There was about an hour where I was in town shopping and not on WiFi at all.

justibasa said:
So this was mostly on WiFi. There was about an hour where I was in town shopping and not on WiFi at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow! You got the highest SOT of the V30 I have seen so far! Very impressive! Shows how long WiFi and a dark Theme can stretch battery on a good phone!

This is my best so far. It was on WiFi 95% of the time and 70% brightness basically the entire time. If do 50% brightness and a dark amoled theme I am confident I could surpass 9 hours of screen on time. I have seen no other flagship with battery screen on time this high.

i'm getting 7-8 hrs sot consistently, pretty amazing

Ya, I am really impressed with the battery SOT. My Nexus 6p would get less then half of that.

ern88 said:
Ya, I am really impressed with the battery SOT. My Nexus 6p would get less then half of that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You came from a 6P? Are you happy with it? I've got a 6P too and my V30 will be here on Tuesday. Just nervous about the switch from stock to LG's skin.
Are you even hoping for a stock rom once root is available, it are you liking it?

jonzey231 said:
You came from a 6P? Are you happy with it? I've got a 6P too and my V30 will be here on Tuesday. Just nervous about the switch from stock to LG's skin.
Are you even hoping for a stock rom once root is available, it are you liking it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So if you throw Nova or pixel launcher on it, it looks just like stock. You won't notice the lg stuff at all. I was a Nexus use myself and absolutely love this phone.

jonzey231 said:
You came from a 6P? Are you happy with it? I've got a 6P too and my V30 will be here on Tuesday. Just nervous about the switch from stock to LG's skin.
Are you even hoping for a stock rom once root is available, it are you liking it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So far. I love the phone. I am using the Pixel 2 mod launcher. I think you will be really happy with the V30. I may root it.

ern88 said:
So far. I love the phone. I am using the Pixel 2 mod launcher. I think you will be really happy with the V30. I may root it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using the Pixel 2 Launcher right now on my 6P, but since it's a Nexus, I get to keep my Google now panel.
The only reason I even have my 6P rooted is so I can enable night lite. Otherwise, I wouldn't care to even have the stock Google Now launcher, but if I'm rooting I may as well do it all and go full Pixel Mods.
If I can use Nova or the Pixel 2 Launcher with root at some point I think I'm going to love it. I don't want to use another rom because you'll lose a lot of camera quality.
You've just made my nerves settle down though saying that you don't even notice the change that much with just a simple launcher swap.
Is there anything you like on it specifically? Like, "Damn glad I didn't get a Pixel because I wouldn't even have this LG feature."
---------- Post added at 01:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:24 PM ----------
justibasa said:
So if you throw Nova or pixel launcher on it, it looks just like stock. You won't notice the lg stuff at all. I was a Nexus use myself and absolutely love this phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! I'm really excited for it and just kind want some answers to calm my nerves about my first non-stock Android phone....in a long time.
The only phone I had that wasn't "stock" android was a Droid X waaayyy back in the day when I was still crazy enough to be on Verizon ?. I went from a Palm Pre Plus, to a Droid X, to a Nexus 4, then N6, and finally my 6P. So again, I'm just nervous.
But I went into a T-Mo store and played with it for a bit and then camera is absolutely amazing and it was fast and fluid as hell even with the demo mode. PLUS, it's so much smaller than the 6P due to the decreased bezels which is awesome.
I'll definitely miss my front firing speakers though, for sure.

There is a thread here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/review/screen-time-t3664947

jonzey231 said:
I'm using the Pixel 2 Launcher right now on my 6P, but since it's a Nexus, I get to keep my Google now panel.
The only reason I even have my 6P rooted is so I can enable night lite. Otherwise, I wouldn't care to even have the stock Google Now launcher, but if I'm rooting I may as well do it all and go full Pixel Mods.
If I can use Nova or the Pixel 2 Launcher with root at some point I think I'm going to love it. I don't want to use another rom because you'll lose a lot of camera quality.
You've just made my nerves settle down though saying that you don't even notice the change that much with just a simple launcher swap.
Is there anything you like on it specifically? Like, "Damn glad I didn't get a Pixel because I wouldn't even have this LG feature."
---------- Post added at 01:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:24 PM ----------
Thanks! I'm really excited for it and just kind want some answers to calm my nerves about my first non-stock Android phone....in a long time.
The only phone I had that wasn't "stock" android was a Droid X waaayyy back in the day when I was still crazy enough to be on Verizon ?. I went from a Palm Pre Plus, to a Droid X, to a Nexus 4, then N6, and finally my 6P. So again, I'm just nervous.
But I went into a T-Mo store and played with it for a bit and then camera is absolutely amazing and it was fast and fluid as hell even with the demo mode. PLUS, it's so much smaller than the 6P due to the decreased bezels which is awesome.
I'll definitely miss my front firing speakers though, for sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You do know you can get the Nova launcher with the Google now screen without root right? Google it. I'm I using it right now.

I just use the Pixel 2 mod launcher. Works great.

I think this is pretty good?View attachment 4311565View attachment 4311566
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk.

justibasa said:
You do know you can get the Nova launcher with the Google now screen without root right? Google it. I'm I using it right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh yes, I do know that. I actually used it for a little while on my 6P during the O previews if the actual Pixel Mods weren't updated quickly enough. It'd be nice if there was just a "Pixel/Nexus Mode" built into it though. There are just so many damn customization options that it's like IFTTT or Tasker for me. I'd rather spend the 5-10 minutes getting root and installed a few flashables then dig through menus and sub-menus of Nova. However, the one thing I do really like about Nova (and the reason I paid for premium) is because you can backup an exact config. So you can have one setup for the weekend with trail hiking/gps apps up front, and then back to outlook/messaging apps during the week, and lastly have all the casting and entertainment apps readied up in the evenings at home.
All in all though, I just like having the legit Pixel launcher installed. But if I want to keep the Google Now pane I may have to change how I do things.
It's shipping to the office tomorrow morning and we receive all of our UPS by 10:30-11am everyday, so I'll have the majority of the work day to get things how I like them and we'll just have to see!
Thanks!

More battery life means you need more control means installing Greenify and going pro with Greenify to sleep system apps . . . . . and then finally ( because we all are not rooted yet . . . ) do the developer plus ADB step to allow Greenify more privileges.
.
The play store also has many "disable ( LG ) apps" - app -and- it/they also require you to do the developer plus ADB step to allow it more privileges . . .
.
Go figure

Pixel 2 xl or mate 10 pro?

About 100 bucks difference
I currently have a mate 10 pro that has a defective battery I am about to return (battery needs to be charged twice a day on a light use) .
But lost between ordering another or go for the pixel 2 xl?
I know huawei has a bad record of updating their phones.
They already released some updates but still no sign of them on ota.

I've had both and pixel 2 XL is much better imo.

The problem that i had with EMUI is app compatibility. When I had the Mate 9 hulu didn't work and google locations wouldn't update. It looks like the Hulu issue was resolved but if you browse the xda mate 10 forums many people are having issues with widgets. I also think the menu interface is still too cluttered. The updates are far and few

I had a mate 10 pro, hardware wise its a better phone in my opinion, nicer shape, I just really didn't like the software if they made a stock android version and got rid of the iOS wannabe software they would be on to a winner...

No persistent notifications on the lockscreen for EMUI was the reason I went back to Pixel phones.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Megaromania said:
About 100 bucks difference
I currently have a mate 10 pro that has a defective battery I am about to return (battery needs to be charged twice a day on a light use) .
But lost between ordering another or go for the pixel 2 xl?
I know huawei has a bad record of updating their phones.
They already released some updates but still no sign of them on ota.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If fast/regular/guaranteed updates are important to you, Pixel is the only game in town.

It's also a question of where you want your private data to go, Shanghai or Mountain View?

Reuben_skelz92 said:
I've had both and pixel 2 XL is much better imo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whats the battery life on the pixel like? Big difference between mate 10 and pixel?

sirxdroid said:
It's also a question of where you want your private data to go, Shanghai or Mountain View?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lmao that's a good one ?

If you don't want firmware updates in a timely manner go with Huawei.

Megaromania said:
Whats the battery life on the pixel like? Big difference between mate 10 and pixel?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There both good. The pixel seems better. But think the mate 10 pro still had some software tweaks to make the battery life better. I never run out of battery by bed time with the pixel. Lowest I get is maybe 30 percent with heavy usage. Could easily last couple days maybe bit more with light usage

With the recent 6P battery/bootloop of death issue (I had to return mine), not sure I'd even want to look at Huawei so soon.

andy6685 said:
With the recent 6P battery/bootloop of death issue (I had to return mine), not sure I'd even want to look at Huawei so soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The 5X made by LG also has bootloop issues. I think there was something else there, like the SoC that year had issues, or maybe coincidence that both Huawei and LG had manufacturing issues.
Where are the $299 Nexus 4 phones from a few years ago ... It really sucks to spend this much on a phone these days and have all sorts of issues battery, bootloop, screen, ... I suppose you buy these phones with a credit card that extends the warranty by another 2 years, so on a Pixel 2 you get 2 years from Google + another 2 years from a good credit card and you're covered without buying an extended warranty plan.
So yeah to the OP, don't forget that the Pixel 2 has 2 yrs warranty from Google.

sirxdroid said:
The 5X made by LG also has bootloop issues. I think there was something else there, like the SoC that year had issues, or maybe coincidence that both Huawei and LG had manufacturing issues.
Where are the $299 Nexus 4 phones from a few years ago ... It really sucks to spend this much on a phone these days and have all sorts of issues battery, bootloop, screen, ... I suppose you buy these phones with a credit card that extends the warranty by another 2 years, so on a Pixel 2 you get 2 years from Google + another 2 years from a good credit card and you're covered without buying an extended warranty plan.
So yeah to the OP, don't forget that the Pixel 2 has 2 yrs warranty from Google.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ordered one and received it today from amazon
Dunno why I decided to search on amazon again and found the phone 130 bucks cheaper
I asked them if they can price match they said no
So I ordered the cheaper one and gonna return the one I received
It was 760 instead of 889

Got both and use both constantly. Pixel 2 Xl as my private phone, Mate 10 Pro as my work one.
The Huawei "feels" better in hand to me. EMUI works well for me. I also like the camera on the Huawei, though the Pixels is better for point and shoot. As for the interface I really don't see the native one is a problem in any way, I simply downloaded the pixel 2 launcher and I see hardly any difference in real day to day use. The AOD isn't that useful as it only shows notifications from Huawei apps, you need to download third party AOD apps to work (Always On AMOLED).
The Pixel is very nice too and I like extras it has. Plain Google android, an Always On Display that actually works, the Shazam-like notifications, the way it is all just integrated.
I think if I was going to have a to choose it would be the Pixel but it wouldn't be a clear cut decision.

As many various tier Huawei phones I have tested & used, I would never buy any phone made by them. Their CPU always feels inferior to the latest Snapdragon, and multitasking is still something that hasn't been solved by them: try running 3 apps and switching between them, and the phone will lag like hell. I was also baffled when I tried to unlock the Mate 10 Pro, and it took 4 seconds to get to the home screen and draw all the icons... I'm sure Huawei makes decent phones and they have their audience, but they never offered anything that would appeal to me... And the camera is a joke for this price, just check this video:
Also, due to my work I've had the "luck" to get to know their ways of working a bit better than most people ever will (no, I never worked for Huawei), and let me tell you that adhering to standards is not their strong suit (not that Apple or Samsung are better at that department either). The Samsung-like spamming of the market with 10-15 devices with nearly identical capabilities is just one example of how the company wants to gain big market share (basically flood the market at a low cost entry point and ramp up the costs down the road to the point where you came out with a significant deficit...) without providing anything but worse quality (terms of code quality, for example).
As you can tell I pretty much despise the whole brand & can't be really objective in the question, but these are personal experiences that made me decide never-ever to buy anything made by Huawei (also, the fact that when I faced them with the reality that their flagship can't run 3 of my apps smoothly without getting sluggish they cut almost all ties with me...). That $100 difference will buy you not just a superb phone, but 2 years warranty, the (current) best camera solution a phone offers out of the box, timely updates for 3 years, a clutter- and bloatware-free Android experience, unlimited Photos storage for original image uploads for 3 years (from account activation on the phone), I even got the free Google Music promotion although I've been a subscriber for years now, just to name a few.

kdkinc said:
If you don't want firmware updates in a timely manner go with Huawei.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Quoted for the absolute truth. I was trying to make this same decision myself last year, coming from a Mate 9. All in all I did like the Mate 9, it did occasionally have very big lag moments, such as when launching Flipboard, but otherwise it really didn't feel any different from a Snapdragon to me. The camera is one of the weak points, as it has some serious issues with over exposing, and from reading reviews of the Mate 10, I'm not sure they got it right on the 10 either. But my biggest gripe by far would have to be the complete lack of any updates, especially security updates. I have a U.S. Mate 9, and it's still on a security update from June 2017. That plus reviews of the Mate 10 camera not being that great pushed me to get the Pixel 2 XL. The Pixel's camera on full auto is truly in a different league from the Mate 9's, even if you tried to use the Mate 9's manual modes...you can safely believe the hype about the Pixel 2's camera.

Elsydeon said:
Quoted for the absolute truth. I was trying to make this same decision myself last year, coming from a Mate 9. All in all I did like the Mate 9, it did occasionally have very big lag moments, such as when launching Flipboard, but otherwise it really didn't feel any different from a Snapdragon to me. The camera is one of the weak points, as it has some serious issues with over exposing, and from reading reviews of the Mate 10, I'm not sure they got it right on the 10 either. But my biggest gripe by far would have to be the complete lack of any updates, especially security updates. I have a U.S. Mate 9, and it's still on a security update from June 2017. That plus reviews of the Mate 10 camera not being that great pushed me to get the Pixel 2 XL. The Pixel's camera on full auto is truly in a different league from the Mate 9's, even if you tried to use the Mate 9's manual modes...you can safely believe the hype about the Pixel 2's camera.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dxo ranks mate 10 pro right after pixel 2
Alot of websites commended the mate 10s camera

So i got to tinker with the pixel 2 for a bit and I miss some features from Huawei
1. Dark mode.
2. I got used to the navigation dock on the mate 10 it made the screen look fuller and nicer to look at lol, another thing in the pixel I can't swap the navigation bar buttons ?
3. Just find it weird that when I click the recent button I have to scroll up to clear all the apps
Other than that the phone is bad ass
The camera is amazing and no bloatware
Hopefully Google would enable these things

Megaromania said:
So i got to tinker with the pixel 2 for a bit and I miss some features from Huawei
1. Dark mode.
2. I got used to the navigation dock on the mate 10 it made the screen look fuller and nicer to look at lol, another thing in the pixel I can't swap the navigation bar buttons ?
3. Just find it weird that when I click the recent button I have to scroll up to clear all the apps
Other than that the phone is bad ass
The camera is amazing and no bloatware
Hopefully Google would enable these things
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hahahahahaha..I doubt Google will grant your request. However, the rom developers just might ??

Question The Pixel 6 Pro absolutely lives up to the hype

My 6 Pro got delivered this morning and I've spent the entire day setting up and playing with it - this phone is absolutely incredible! (Also the nerd in me is happy to see people shortening the 6 Pro to 6P, I loved my Nexus 6P)
xxxxxxxx
Can't comment on battery life yet but wow, the display, the cameras and the speakers are all excellent! Haptics are nice and tight, the entire phone feels snappy and gorgeous! Also shout out to the natural depth effect from the 4x telephoto camera, that's a lot of fun to play with.
As someone who's owner multiple Pixel phones in the past, I think every reviewer is on the mark when they say this is the first no compromise Pixel - Google have outdone themselves I fully believe it deserves the hype it's getting!
Mod Edit: some content removed.

Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box

Shipoftheline said:
Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and that search bar so annoying

alleshi said:
and that search bar so annoying
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep and no option to change or move it

Shipoftheline said:
Yep and no option to change or move it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.

Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on

Shipoftheline said:
Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By your logic, you may as well not download ANY apps on the playstore and just strictly use apps that are stock on the phone. Pfft.
Stock launchers, since the dawn of Android, have been the most atrocious launchers there are. I've been using Nova ever since Android Donut and have never looked back since.

It was one of the worst phones I've owned, sadly. Sold it in the end after 3 months.

Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally agree. Nova fits my needs very well and gives me everything I want in a launcher, with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
Like I said, not a big deal and I'll take it like that. Just a little bummed out because it almost feels like I have a low/mid range phone that isn't fully ready to tackle that initial tap on the home screen because the processor is too slow or the RAM is too low. I really wish it picked up that first immediate tap when going back to the home screen after exiting an app, only thing I miss from the stock launcher. Ok, my rant is done.

I had a high degree of interest in the Pixel 6 pro but in the end a few things steered me in another direction:
- Canada wasn't deemed worthy of the 512 GB model.
- Placed an order for the 256 GB model Jan 01, was still waiting for it Feb 09.
- Spent my time learning as much as I could about the device while waiting for it only to come to the conclusion that
there are way to many unresolved issues with conectivity and audio DAC incomatability etc.
Hopefully they get it right with the Pixel 7 Pro and decide that all regions deserve the same storage options.

The only issue I've run into, is the signal level on the phone. In areas where I would have "full bars", on my old A71 samsung, I have 1/2 bars.

Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.

elodin_89 said:
....... with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's a well known issue with 3rd-party launchers and A12. I have the same experience with Smart Launcher and still can't find a solution.

I don't fully agree honestly.
There really hasn't been a phone released in the past 3 or 4 years that has lived up to any real hype.
Maybe the Foldables but those are not on my radar currently.
Phone tech is pretty stagnant and the biggest issue we have right now are companies releasing BETA products and BETA software to consumers.
Consumers keep buying into the hype and companies will keep releasing BETA products.
I have the P6P, P6 and a S21 Ultra.
My S21 Ultra has more advanced Google features than any of my Pixel 6's do.

MArtyChubbs said:
Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
13 radio on 12L? worth it?

Edited majority as no longer needed.
Personally I have found the Pixel 6 Pro to be a very good phone. I have been fortunate that I have not had the issues that some have had and Fingerprint reader on the whole reads first time, no random reboots, battery that lasts all day even when only charged to 80% (and still leaves me with 30% before re-charging).
I have the Mobile Network Standby reading a stupid number (40%+ recently) but this was 6% back when I got it and the actually battery usage has not changed, so don't feel it is an issue of any consequence.
Signal wise, not had any issues, its about the same as my OnePlus 6T was but this gets 5G when in a signal area which that phone couldn't.
There have been some things I haven't liked in Android 12 and the Pixel Launcher, so I have kept the Apex Launcher I used on the OnePlus and have kept the backgrounds to a minimum to not trigger the colour theming (do prefer greyscale anyway).
On the phone pretty pleased with it and don't have anything that is annoying me.
Will soon swap to a eSim so that I can add my work Sim which from what I am hearing may cause an issue, but will see what happens, can always switch back if needs be until fixed.
One of the reasons for using Android is the freedom to customise things like the launcher and the experience. If I was going to stick solely to what the manufacturer was supplying then I would have an iPhone (Not )

can we just be civil please. We all bought a Pixel 6 because we are the 1%'ers (kind of like a biker club). There are lots of great things about the Pixel Launcher (fluidity, simplicity etc) but there are also great things about Nova Launcher (customization etc). So it's about personal preference - just like choosing a Pixel over a Samsung.
Many times when reading comments on a forum, its hard to get your point across (or the real meaning behind your comment gets hidden). So I just wanted everyone to think about that for a second.

Sui77 said:
13 radio on 12L? worth it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Works for me, best reception and speed I've had yet

I love my p6pro with root I'm on 12L and have experienced bugs though, like occasional freezing and unresponsive screen. The Bluetooth cuts out on my headphones sometimes, but it's still the best phone I've owned. No complaints at all here with the p6pro

Sui77 said:
13 radio on 12L? worth it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm running the latest 12l radio on stock February update. Also the best bandwidth I've had yet.

Question I really like my Pixel 6 Pro

I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.

I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.

love the device so much i took a big financial hit to get rid of my Z fold 3 for one - samsung wont be seeing me for a long time

wulfgarfang said:
I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same. The Pixel 3xl was the best phone ever, and the fingerprint sensor was the best thing about it! They should go back to that model, using through the screen is clunky and causes fingerprints.

metanbeky said:
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use Android Auto every day and I haven't had a problem. Every few years I sometimes run into consistent problems with Android Auto and replacing the cable I'm using (with another high-quality USB 3.x cable) always fixes the issue.
metanbeky said:
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I avoided gestures until I got the Pixel 6 Pro. I finally resigned myself and mostly haven't minded it. If you want to continue avoiding using the navbar but want a workaround for swiping up from the bottom, Nova Launcher might give you close to what you want.
If you want to use the navigation bar then Nova Launcher should be able to be configured to completely do what you want with the swipe up from the bottom gesture.
It's fair if you don't want to use a custom launcher, though. I've sworn by Nova for the last 10+ years IIRC. Every time I give something else a try, I go back, and I don't bother trying anything else anymore.

Having used Samsung and OnePlus devices, I love the swipe up to go back feature. It results in far fewer accidental back presses than the default Google ones. For me, it was worth rooting and installing Fluid Navigation Gestures to get that feature on the Pixel 6 Pro.

Yeah, despite it's flaws, the p6pro is a great phone imo.
I got the 256gb model and bought a 30w pixel charger for it. Rooted it the 1st day I got it.
But the Bluetooth cuts out upon connection with my Sony bt headphones.
I'm on a13 DP2 and it's brilliant. Can't use viper tho
I love my p6pro too.

The only real complaint I have is battery life and photo quality. My pixel 2XL had better quality photos that weren't overly processed and were sharper.
Battery life is meh; I feel it drains too quickly and gets overly hot from just web browsing and texting.
I'd like to see more customization within the OS, since Samsung has an array of customization options Google refuses to provide. I don't mind using custom roms for that purpose, but they can be buggy and often break features from stock.

metanbeky said:
I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm still using my OnePlus 7 Pro. Yesterday, I used it for a Zoom meeting and the selfie camera is way better than the crappy one on my computer.
The Pixel 6 looks great. I'd get the Samsung 22,because I've hade Notes in the past, but their privacy policies are really creepy.