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This popped up in my head yesterday. I'm loving my M360 with it's latest update that just made the battery life insane for me. 15 to 17 hours with 60%+ Left. Woot
But Now I am wondering...
The M360 has the oldest processor smallest battery...Yet it now out preforms the G Watch and Gear live...? What? Really making the others look like a joke now.
Your thoughts?
Locklear308 said:
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We're just witnessing the power of software... if you have the latest processor you don't have to try that hard to get reasonable battery life.
But Motorola had bad PR from reviewers about battery life, so they were forced to optimize their code.
IMO, the fact that the life improved so much is what gets Motorola points for me. They could have made it just "good enough", but it feels like they really went all out hopefully they support this watch for a long time
Not sure where you are seeing they are being outperformed? If all things equal (both using always on set to off) G Watch battery will last much longer. The problem is that nobody compares the battery life of these devices using equal settings on both devices.
17 hours and you're at 60%?!?
I took it off at 8 am, and right now it's 3:20 pm and I am at 40%.
And I was in school the whole day so i only checked my watch for time and notifications
I have ambient off, auto brightness and lvl 1 brightness
are you using stock?
I just got this watch monday, so maybe the battery needs to set in, and I did get the latest update
My record is 50 hours with the simple watchface, ambient was off but I checked it plenty.
First day using the watch(got it yesterday). I finished school and I'm at 38% its around 5 pm and I took it off at 7:30 am. I used it a ton though, even showed off the little games to friends. Once it starts to set in, I'm sure I can get a day+ out of it.
I've gotten a good day and a half with this watch, it drains fast at first but as you use it, it will get better.
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That's some amazing optimization
I haven't had time to check the various battery life threads, but has anyone (with good battery life experiences), noted whether during the majority of their
daily time with the watch - they are within connection range of their phone and indeed remain connected?
Just wondering what being out of bluetooth range/not connected does to battery life? i.e. is it similar to the situation when a phone is "polling" for
a Wifi connection or polling for a phone network connection but can't find one so the constant polling activity results in higher than average battery drain..
I personally think that the battery life discussion is one of the silliest there is. I have been always burnt by saying how great battery is somewhere. Was it Galaxy S2, HTC M7, M8 or now Sony Z3, they are never THAT good. However on Moto 360 I am really happily surprised. Even from the first day on I have never had problem with the battery. Actually I have yet to see sub 20%levels on the Moto 360. I get it off charger around 7AM and put it back 11Pm or 12AM. I usually have around 30-40% left. I use automatic brightness and ambient off. I do get a lot of notifications.
But the much praised Z3 goes to charger much sooner than this watch. Sure, I couldn't go on for the next day but it doesn't matter if I can make 20 hours easily since I never sleep with my watch on the wrist.
So, you are saying you get 5hrs of battery life and that's great?
7AM - 12PM. That's only 5hrs. Lol
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i have noticed that having Facer and the other custom watch ups uninstalled (Facer especially) It helps me out with battery life big time.
Even when facer isn't running?
Uninstalling helps battery? I might try that today for shiggles.
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I've had the G Watch since it came out, and the 360 for a few weeks now. All things being equal, the G Watch goes an extra 12 hours easy, but it sure isn't as good looking as the 360, so it had been relegated to just morning gym sessions now.
Locklear308 said:
This popped up in my head yesterday. I'm loving my M360 with it's latest update that just made the battery life insane for me. 15 to 17 hours with 60%+ Left. Woot
But Now I am wondering...
The M360 has the oldest processor smallest battery...Yet it now out preforms the G Watch and Gear live...? What? Really making the others look like a joke now.
Your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that many of us get nowhere near those numbers, and you must be barely using your watch with almost everything disabled to get 2.35% per hour power consumption.
On my watch with latest firmware, reset after the firmware was installed, no apps at all, ambient mode off, step counter on, and default brightness, I cannot get below 3% per hour with almost zero usage, and hover nearer to 4% per hour with real-world (light to moderate) usage. At 17 hours, I would have at best 49% remaining, and more likely 32% remaining.
And that's with ambient mode off. Enable ambient mode and even with light usage and no apps at all, my watch will regularly fail to make it through a single regular, 16-hour day (that's the time between waking and sleeping with an eight-hour sleep cycle, which is the most a typical adult gets).
Also, what review have you seen with the G Watch or Gear Live using their latest-available firmware, so you can make a valid comparison? Because comparing the Moto 360 on its latest firmware against those devices on early firmware is utterly unfair and meaningless.
The Gear Live massively outperforms the 360 in regards to battery stamina. I don't understand how you guys are getting 50 hrs on a charge. I do like ambient mode, but I can still kill a battery in 12 hrs easily.
Got my ZenWatch yesterday and charged it up and used it all day today.. but after just 13 hours - the battery was down to 5%. Most of the reviews I've read suggest 24-36 hours of use.
Anyone else finding the batteries are a little light?
Give the battery a bit of time to settle in. And plus your using the watch a bit more intensively than designed for.
I would be very interested how you'll go after a few days, and a few charge cycles.
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Got my ZenWatch yesterday and charged it up and used it all day today.. but after just 13 hours - the battery was down to 5%. Most of the reviews I've read suggest 24-36 hours of use.
Anyone else finding the batteries are a little light?
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The reviews are definitely biased. Mine dropped 50% in only 4 hrs with brightness sett to minimum. Totally dissatisfied with this watch. The performance doesn't even come close to matching the looks.
my wife takes it off the charger at 7:30. When I looked last night around 12:00, it still had 35%. She has it always-on and I think brightness at 3...
I did notice that it seem to disconnect from her phone at a shorter distance than my moto would. Both watches connected to note 4s.
Here is something to think about. I had the moto 360 and returned it primarily do to battery life. Had it for two weeks and hoped it would get better but I would take it off the charger at 530 am and it would be dead before 5 pm sometimes even early afternoon. I got this watch set it up and charged it over night. Took it off the charger at 530 and it was dead by noon the first day. Second took it off the charger at 530 and it lasted until 5. I was thinking I would have to return it but yesterday I took it off at 530 am and at 11 pm it still had 13%. I have been going always on, brightness at 2 or 3. I get a ton of email and text. What I'm saying is maybe it's too early to tell....I got two full days with the gear neo but it just wasn't as cool.
The battery life is excellent here.
One of the review says the battery is horrible if you have "unlock my phone" feature checked on Zenwatch manager. So try to deactivate that feature and try it.
The battery life on my Zenwatch is excellent. I am confident that it will last me the whole day even with active use.
Usually there may be some 3rd party apps that can drain the battery, such as incompatible watch Face.
Couldn't be happier with the battery life! Getting through a full 12-16 hour day with plenty to spare.
Seems like the better battery life is holding up. Took it off the charger at 530 and it is now 10 and I still have 18%.....haven't changed my habits. Won't last even close to two days. But one full day is acceptable.
why_999 said:
Give the battery a bit of time to settle in. And plus your using the watch a bit more intensively than designed for.
I would be very interested how you'll go after a few days, and a few charge cycles.
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I think you're right - on day two, I'm at 33% after the same time elapsed. I actually don't use it too intensely and I leave the brightness at 1. We'll see how it goes over the next week.
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One of the review says the battery is horrible if you have "unlock my phone" feature checked on Zenwatch manager. So try to deactivate that feature and try it.
The battery life on my Zenwatch is excellent. I am confident that it will last me the whole day even with active use.
Usually there may be some 3rd party apps that can drain the battery, such as incompatible watch Face.
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Definitely, in fact, I removed all the Wear apps from my phone because Wellness was killing my phone's performance, then when I noticed the Watch still thought it was using Wellness, I factory reset the watch and reinstalled just a few apps and left things like 'unlock my phone' off... and it's doing better today.
Thanks everyone for the input.
Keep us updated
I'm waiting for it to be released in Australia.. getting impatient.
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I unplugged my watch at 6:30 yesterday morning. At 7:30 pm it still had 63% left. I don't bother with any type of wellness app, at all. I don't bother with any type of 'find my phone' or 'find my watch' or phone unlocking app. I don't use the always on feature, but keep brightness on 3 due to being outside quite often. I use the watch strictly for notifications, and replying to Hangouts messages via the voice input. I have 3 weather locations set in Google Now that all show on my watch, and I play Words With Friends with a dozen different people. Between all that, plus emails, texts and calls I get 100s of notifications throughout each day. To have 63% left at the end of the workday is very acceptable. I could easily go out after work till the wee hours of the morning without any worry of the battery giving out before I do.
Mine goes all day and evening with plenty of juice to spare. I have taken no measures to preserve the battery. I use it to unlock my moto x as well. No issues with battery life that I have seen after 3 days of using the watch.
After the first day of crappie battery life. I am getting a good 18 hours. I'm not doing anything either to preserve battery life. It is WAY better than my moto 360 experience. I usually only have 10 to 13 % left when I put it on the charger but I would charge every night anyway.
It's been good for me... I've been using it with the display always on plus one or more watch faces with weather. Gets me about 16 hours or so. I've been using turn by turn navigation plus media control quite a bit. I've also spent an hour or more playing with facer watch faces.
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My watch has now been off the charger for a little over ten hours and I still have 63% battery life left. Holy crap! Best battery life yet, by far, since I've had the watch. Guess it takes about a week to settle in. Couldn't be happier.
Update: It's now been about 13 hours off the charger, and my watch just hit 50%... Starting to think this 2 day battery life claim holds water... Very happy right now!
Much improved now... 14.5 hrs on constantly and I'm at 52%.. which means it should be good for another 14.5 hrs which is 29 hours total run time.
I only need 18 so getting 29 is more than excellent!
I think the battery "guestimate" needs a short while to settle in with such a small battery. The first couple days I actually saw my battery percentage go *up* 3-5% between checking it. When it's saying it's low the first few days you have it, it likely actually isn't.
One last note - as has been mentioned before - some apps can really just suck the watch's battery dry, even apps that seem like they shouldn't. I hope Goog gets a handle on this because there's no really good way that I can see to know in advance other than installing and checking battery use over a day.
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One last note - as has been mentioned before - some apps can really just suck the watch's battery dry, even apps that seem like they shouldn't. I hope Goog gets a handle on this because there's no really good way that I can see to know in advance other than installing and checking battery use over a day.
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Can anyone post anything they have done differently to get the better life. I'm getting close to 2 weeks with it, have seen it get better after it "settled in", but I'm still trying to get a little better. I can make it through the day, but usually only barely and I'm over the constantly fiddling with it part of ownership. I get maybe 50-60 notifications a day. I've tried uninstalling apps, trying to stick with stock watchfaces, it's really hard to tell.
I'm really looking forward to the next update so that I can see what apps are using the battery. I tried the Wear Battery App, but someone suggested they thought it was draining the battery itself. Just seeing if there is a consensus on what works and what doesn't. I have removed almost all the ASUS apps, the unlock one really helped a lot. Thanks.
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Can anyone post anything they have done differently to get the better life. I'm getting close to 2 weeks with it, have seen it get better after it "settled in", but I'm still trying to get a little better. I can make it through the day, but usually only barely and I'm over the constantly fiddling with it part of ownership. I get maybe 50-60 notifications a day. I've tried uninstalling apps, trying to stick with stock watchfaces, it's really hard to tell.
I'm really looking forward to the next update so that I can see what apps are using the battery. I tried the Wear Battery App, but someone suggested they thought it was draining the battery itself. Just seeing if there is a consensus on what works and what doesn't. I have removed almost all the ASUS apps, the unlock one really helped a lot. Thanks.
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I have no such problem but a co-worker was having terrible drain and he uninstalled the Asus Zenwatch manager itself and it fixed his problem. Best advice I can give is to uninstall all the apps other than the android wear app, and maybe even kill it just to see what happens, and then slowly add them back in.
For comparison, I took mine off the charger at 7am this morning so after 12 hours I'm at 55%. I dim the display but don't turn it off. I'm using a nice face from the Intellicom app and I probably get several hundred notifications over the course of the day. I'm more than happy with this device.
I thought people were just exaggerating (i still have hope that i'm exaggerating) but man, i just got this phone and holy hell is the battery getting destroyed by "android os"
It won't even last a day with minimal/medium usage (some bluetooth and hotspot use here and there)
I'm coming from a galaxy s3 (which had better battery life).
I've tried installing a 5.1.1 rom but it seems to have no effect.
Has anyone figured out how to 'fix' this? Or can recommend a good rom (or kernel?) to get battery life representative of what i think a 3000 mah battery should be?
Thanks.
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I thought people were just exaggerating (i still have hope that i'm exaggerating) but man, i just got this phone and holy hell is the battery getting destroyed by "android os"
It won't even last a day with minimal/medium usage (some bluetooth and hotspot use here and there)
I'm coming from a galaxy s3 (which had better battery life).
I've tried installing a 5.1.1 rom but it seems to have no effect.
Has anyone figured out how to 'fix' this? Or can recommend a good rom (or kernel?) to get battery life representative of what i think a 3000 mah battery should be?
Thanks.
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Greenify and the .97 OTA seems to provide decent battery life. Getting about 5 hours+ of SOT. Try using a separate app to see which apps are consuming the most battery and disable all the system apps you don't use.
I installed a barebones rom.
What concerns me is i had the same set up on my Galaxy S3 (5.1.1. lollipop with same apps), and the battery life on this zenfone has just been atrocious (leading me to believe 5.1.1 is not the problem, per se).
Am I wrong, did they not optimize this phone properly or something?
I do not have any issue with batery life. Mine last one day easy with medium to heavy use. Just do some charging cycles
I usually get a day with 4 to 6 hours SOT, without doing anything special to save battery
Do 3 drains to 1 % - you may find it stays longer during the lower 20% range so use a youtube film or sommat to blast it down,
then do a factory reset on the latest build.
Did this at the beginning when was only getting 10hrs max ugh !
Now easy 36hrs decent usage
I get a full days use (medium/heavy) with mine, not rooted not custom rom. I usually have about 20% left before it hits the charger. I have noticed small increases in battery life at every firmware update. I can't really complain, came from a Galaxy S5 and battery was about the same if not worst, but S5 had removeable battery. I've used a lot of smartphones and honestly, most will get your through the day and evening but that's about it, yeah, you might have some for the next day but most will through it on the charger by end of the night. My wife has the Iphone 4s and yeah, the battery lasts longer but the screen is almost half the size of mine, screen size makes a big dif.
Hello,
I've just got mine, it's amazon refurbished, but just because the box was broken, never used before.
I've used it for about a week to let the battery start working as it should, but no way.
Yesterday it went from 100% to 0% (dead) from 10:00 to 23:00
Now this are the expectations for today: http://imgur.com/1UPeXww
Should I just send it back? I've heard lot of people talking about at least two days and I'm not even using it that much...
Since last Wear update by google few days ago there are another time a battery issue on wear watch. My SW3 go from normal 3% by hour to 8% by hours. Same review with Huawei users
I agree, I thought the update made it better... well, it WAS better for a moment but now it's worse.
My watch easily lasted for about 2-3 days on first MM update, now it's barely 2 days with the same usage.
The only thing I've noticed is that the battery drains less from the vibrations, notifications and overall interaction with the watch. So the battery is somehow fixed - it drains less while using the watch but drains more while the watch is "off".
Same here. Mine is just few months old and after the update battery gets drained in about 10 hours or so.
I do miss Pebble...
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Does anyone know if there's a way to downgrade to the previous marshmallow update?
Same problem here, took the update (like you have a choice) and my battery which used to at least last all day with heavy use is now dead by lunch. The problem seems to be related to certain watch faces, i switched to a simple watch face and the battery life is back to normal but should be much longer with this simple watch face. Going to load a custom rom.
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Since last Wear update by google few days ago there are another time a battery issue on wear watch. My SW3 go from normal 3% by hour to 8% by hours. Same review with Huawei users
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Since that update the GPS performance is chronic too. GPS takes ages to lock and accuracy suddenly shoots up to 90m+ for no apparent reason. Very annoying as I have written, and been using successfully for months, a stand-alone golf GPS app that is now useless.
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Since that update the GPS performance is chronic too. GPS takes ages to lock and accuracy suddenly shoots up to 90m+ for no apparent reason. Very annoying as I have written, and been using successfully for months, a stand-alone golf GPS app that is now useless.
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Not had the GPS issue but hell the battery is poor now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get a days battery at best and thats if I use it for notifications and for the time and nothing more. Used to get around 60hrs with general usage and around 30hrs with HEAVY usage(GPS ETC).... Heavy usage now gives me around 10hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have an issue with the compass as it rarely points north and when it does south if you turn to face south its usually where east is!!!!
Completely unreliable watch now....
Thinking of going back to 5.1 as everything worked!
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Not had the GPS issue but hell the battery is poor now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get a days battery at best and thats if I use it for notifications and for the time and nothing more. Used to get around 60hrs with general usage and around 30hrs with HEAVY usage(GPS ETC).... Heavy usage now gives me around 10hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have an issue with the compass as it rarely points north and when it does south if you turn to face south its usually where east is!!!!
Completely unreliable watch now....
Thinking of going back to 5.1 as everything worked!
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I'm thinking the same...and I do occasionally get the hugely accelerated battery drain problem; usually of course just when you need the watch working!
I actually added compass algorithms to the software I wrote to point the way to the next tee on new courses and it was very unstable on 5.1. It's now more stable but seems to drift +/- 30 deg off true North after a few minutes even with regular calibration. I'd suspect my own code but I've tried a few other apps (Bearing seems a good one) and the results are identical.
It appears that something has been updated to improve battery life. I got a full 7 days last time I charged my watch. At 6 1/2 days I was at 10% battery and I switched to battery save mode (I did not have charger with me). When I charged watch after 7 full days I was at 5% battery. I changed nothing in my normal routine or in my settings. I have wifi off and bluetooth on and connected to watch at all times. AOD is off. Still getting notifications, etc. It does not appear to be a fluke. I'm at 75% battery currently after 2 days and 4 hours.
I bought this watch when it came out and I was getting 4 - 5 days (less when actively using GPS). Usually it was closer to 4 days. The first charge I did which lasted 7 days was on 10/29 so if there was some kind of update it would have been probably 10/24 - 10/29.
Anyone else seeing battery life improvements lately?
I just got my watch yesterday did an up date and not changing anything I'm still at 93% after coming off the charger at 0615hrs. My S2 or S3 never managed that. Lol
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Is step tracker better or?
vojopd said:
Is step tracker better or?
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Step tracker and all the same fitness tracking that I had on before. Not sure what you mean by "step tracker better". Is this a setting or different app?
fliptwister said:
It appears that something has been updated to improve battery life. I got a full 7 days last time I charged my watch. At 6 1/2 days I was at 10% battery and I switched to battery save mode (I did not have charger with me). When I charged watch after 7 full days I was at 5% battery. I changed nothing in my normal routine or in my settings. I have wifi off and bluetooth on and connected to watch at all times. AOD is off. Still getting notifications, etc. It does not appear to be a fluke. I'm at 75% battery currently after 2 days and 4 hours.
I bought this watch when it came out and I was getting 4 - 5 days (less when actively using GPS). Usually it was closer to 4 days. The first charge I did which lasted 7 days was on 10/29 so if there was some kind of update it would have been probably 10/24 - 10/29.
Anyone else seeing battery life improvements lately?
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Well, it depends. To be able to compare one need to specify model (46mm(472mAh)/42mm(270mAh))(1.75:1 or 1:0.57).
I get roughly 3+ days (42mm) (AOD-no, BT + Wi-Fi(auto), light(2 -auto) and notifications)
That is close to your observation if your watch is a 46mm - that is.
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Step tracker and all the same fitness tracking that I had on before. Not sure what you mean by "step tracker better". Is this a setting or different app?
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There are problems with step counter and HR monitor... Take a look at US and EU Samsung forums. 90% of watches have these problems.
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There are problems with step counter and HR monitor... Take a look at US and EU Samsung forums. 90% of watches have these problems.
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My step counter and HR monitor are working great.
Just out of curiosity I went out to Samsung's US forum (Samsung Community>Get Help>Wearable Tech>Wearable Tech) and I'm not seeing a significant amount of posts about issues with the Galaxy Watch step counter or HR monitor. Are you referring to another forum? Please post link. Even if there were a lot of posts how did you determine 90% of watches have these problems?
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There are problems with step counter and HR monitor... Take a look at US and EU Samsung forums. 90% of watches have these problems.
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That's complete BS, here is no way you could know that. Maybe 90% of the people posting problems and that 90% is probably a tiny amount of the watches sold.
I only got my watch a couple of days ago but i can tell you that I am into my 3rd day with this watch and i am currently on 65% battery with the 46mm bluetooth only version.
My setting are...
AOD off
Wifi off
Bluetooth always connected 24/7
Heart rate monitor on request only
Screen brightness on 7
Very impressed with this so far after coming from the huawei watch original which had to be charged every single day.
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Well, it depends. To be able to compare one need to specify model (46mm(472mAh)/42mm(270mAh))(1.75:1 or 1:0.57).
I get roughly 3+ days (42mm) (AOD-no, BT + Wi-Fi(auto), light(2 -auto) and notifications)
That is close to your observation if your watch is a 46mm - that is.
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My watch is 46mm version. My last charge (the second in a row that has lasted 7+ hours) lasted 7 days 6 hours. This was without turning on battery saving mode. I was at 1% when I charged.
The battery time has improved significantly for me. Not sure what it is but I'm liking it. Display at 7 brightness, AOD off, Auto Low Brightness on, screen timeout 15 seconds, HR set at frequent, step tracker on, wifi off, BT always on, notifications from phone on.
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That's complete BS, here is no way you could know that. Maybe 90% of the people posting problems and that 90% is probably a tiny amount of the watches sold.
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I agree. By looking at posts on Samsung US forum I would say the percent of posts with problems relating to this is much lower than that and probably less than 20%.
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My watch is 46mm version. My last charge (the second in a row that has lasted 7+ hours) lasted 7 days 6 hours. This was without turning on battery saving mode. I was at 1% when I charged.
The battery time has improved significantly for me. Not sure what it is but I'm liking it. Display at 7 brightness, AOD off, Auto Low Brightness on, screen timeout 15 seconds, HR set at frequent, step tracker on, wifi off, BT always on, notifications from phone on.
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How do you turn Step tracker Off?
I Couldn't find any info or Setting...
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I agree. By looking at posts on Samsung US forum I would say the percent of posts with problems relating to this is much lower than that and probably less than 20%.
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Actually the longest threads are about these problems with thousands of comments already and no solution. I also returned my watch because of the hr sensor not working reliably. I guess a lot of people just don't use the always on hr, because this is how you see that it doesn't work properly. It gets stuck sometimes leaving gaps on your charts and stays stuck for quite some time if you don't manually release it by some workarounds.