I have noticed this issue since two firmware updates but i usually dont use night mode much that is why did not post anything regarding this.
When the nightmode is on and the brightness level is low lets say around 20% , the pixels are not really off when the bg is black (settings menu/qs). But when the brightness is increased above 40% the pixels go off and ive a true amoled bg.
Does anyone else have this issue?
bobandar said:
I have noticed this issue since two firmware updates but i usually dont use night mode much that is why did not post anything regarding this.
When the nightmode is on and the brightness level is low lets say around 20% , the pixels are not really off when the bg is black (settings menu/qs). But when the brightness is increased above 40% the pixels go off and ive a true amoled bg.
Does anyone else have this issue?
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yes, its the problem off one UI dark mode not A50 problems!
try good lock to make ur bar!
Mahdi2000 said:
yes, its the problem off one UI dark mode not A50 problems!
try good lock to make ur bar!
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That can be but it is completely black amoled on my s9+. Maybe software update can fix it in the future. Not a major bug though, just wanted to know if the problem was common.
bobandar said:
I have noticed this issue since two firmware updates but i usually dont use night mode much that is why did not post anything regarding this.
When the nightmode is on and the brightness level is low lets say around 20% , the pixels are not really off when the bg is black (settings menu/qs). But when the brightness is increased above 40% the pixels go off and ive a true amoled bg.
Does anyone else have this issue?
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Mine is just simply not true black, but I can only see it when I boost the brightness. But to be fair, samsung doesn't really promise a true AMOLED black as they say it's just so it's easier on the eye at night (dark/low light) ambient. But yeah, it'd be better to have a true AMOLED black in night mode.
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Mine is just simply not true black, but I can only see it when I boost the brightness. But to be fair, samsung doesn't really promise a true AMOLED black as they say it's just so it's easier on the eye at night (dark/low light) ambient. But yeah, it'd be better to have a true AMOLED black in night mode.
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Mate, it is true amoled back on flagship devices after s8, i had a true amoled black on my s9+ no matter at what level my brightness was set.
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Mate, it is true amoled back on flagship devices after s8, i had a true amoled black on my s9+ no matter at what level my brightness was set.
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Well then it sucks. What's the point of having an AMOLED display if the software won't let us have its advantages
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Well then it sucks. What's the point of having an AMOLED display if the software won't let us have its advantages
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Yes , exactly my point
Its named night mode and not dark mode maybe its different
Yep, I agree, however I don't notice any difference depending upon brightness level.
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Mate, it is true amoled back on flagship devices after s8, i had a true amoled black on my s9+ no matter at what level my brightness was set.
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Yeah its also amoled black on my a7 2018 and a50 except for the normally white parts in the ui but its okay like most of the ui is still pure black its not like the whole screen is grey
There is s little fix guys. See this video
https://youtu.be/Y398_v3DRkI
Theres no large difference in mah consumption between completely dark mode (pixels off) and dark theme.
To me it seems black parts are true black/turned off. On any level of brightness is the same.
No I think Samsung did it intentionally.. because true black is way more susceptible to burn in.. you can't have UI elements being turned off all the time that would result in very bad burn ins to text and Icones..
Still thay made it dark enough so you won't notice it
And another thing it's the opposite of what you said when the brightest is low it turns off and when it's high it becomes very dark gray technically black but not off.
Also you can't design a decent looking gui if all elements are pure black.
Guys try good lock app via which the notification panel can be adjusted to colors we want
baraa_a_awwad said:
No I think Samsung did it intentionally.. because true black is way more susceptible to burn in.. you can't have UI elements being turned off all the time that would result in very bad burn ins to text and Icones..
Still thay made it dark enough so you won't notice it
And another thing it's the opposite of what you said when the brightest is low it turns off and when it's high it becomes very dark gray technically black but not off.
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That's not how burn in works. Burn in occurs at the pixel level. A pixel that's on all the time will burn at the regardless of the colors of the surrounding pixels (black, grey, or whatever)
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That's not how burn in works. Burn in occurs at the pixel level. A pixel that's on all the time will burn at the regardless of the colors of the surrounding pixels (black, grey, or whatever)
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Every burn in is different from another.. basically the higher the contrast the worst the burn is
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Every burn in is different from another.. basically the higher the contrast the worst the burn is
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I think maybe you're confusing contrast with brightness? Again, burn-in occurs at the pixel level, when a pixel cannot return to its initial relaxed state, and is not dependent on whether the pixel beside it is on or off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_burn-in#Plasma,_LCD,_and_OLED_displays for a very brief primer
bobandar said:
I have noticed this issue since two firmware updates but i usually dont use night mode much that is why did not post anything regarding this.
When the nightmode is on and the brightness level is low lets say around 20% , the pixels are not really off when the bg is black (settings menu/qs). But when the brightness is increased above 40% the pixels go off and ive a true amoled bg.
Does anyone else have this issue?
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Hello, on my galaxy a50, there is a similar effect, only at a brightness close to the minimum, a gray gradient appears, part of the screen becomes gray and part black. When you increase the brightness to about 40 percent, the color is aligned. At the same time, the black color remains black on the lock screen at any brightness.
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Hello All
Just came across this forum and a thread on the pink screen issue.
Do you reckon this one has the same issue?
All of the phones are the exact same and have the exact same "issue". I use my phone on maximum brightness all the time so I never notice it. It's only noticeable if you use the phone on the lowest brightness setting (Why anyone would buy an AMOLED phone just to use it on the lowest brightness is beyond me)
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All of the phones are the exact same and have the exact same "issue". I use my phone on maximum brightness all the time so I never notice it. It's only noticeable if you use the phone on the lowest brightness setting (Why anyone would buy an AMOLED phone just to use it on the lowest brightness is beyond me)
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Is that true? Does everyone have a pinkish screen if u run it in the lowest brightness? (Havent gotten my Desire yet.)
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Is that true? Does everyone have a pinkish screen if u run it in the lowest brightness? (Havent gotten my Desire yet.)
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Yes i'm fairly sure they do. But at anything over the lowest brightness it doesn't occur. Again, why you would buy an AMOLED to use it on lowest brightness is beyond me
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All of the phones are the exact same and have the exact same "issue". I use my phone on maximum brightness all the time so I never notice it. It's only noticeable if you use the phone on the lowest brightness setting (Why anyone would buy an AMOLED phone just to use it on the lowest brightness is beyond me)
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Check the appropriate thread: there is a huge difference between handsets. Most are like this, some are totally unaffected and some are basically defective.
Yes poor answers, I do not have any pink even on the lowest brightness settings. This means your device is defective and you should get it replaced as many others have done. And yes there is a thread dedicated to this issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656128
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Yes poor answers, I do not have any pink even on the lowest brightness settings. This means your device is defective and you should get it replaced as many others have done. And yes there is a thread dedicated to this issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656128
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Sorry is that a yes to me?
Can you post an image of your phone?
look in the sticky post enough examples there...
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
Im a total OCD for these kind of things. pink issue, dust under screen, dead pixels etc... I don't have the pink issue. It was one of the biggest concerns for me when I ordered the phone. I had seen sample photos from the nexus one that had pink etc. I think there are two issues. A screen issue, and a camera issue? anyway, I don't have pink in my screen at low setting (which I use ALL the time indoors to consevre battery) or any other setting. I also don't have pink in any pictures or videos I made with the phone.
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Im a total OCD for these kind of things. pink issue, dust under screen, dead pixels etc... I don't have the pink issue. It was one of the biggest concerns for me when I ordered the phone. I had seen sample photos from the nexus one that had pink etc. I think there are two issues. A screen issue, and a camera issue? anyway, I don't have pink in my screen at low setting (which I use ALL the time indoors to consevre battery) or any other setting. I also don't have pink in any pictures or videos I made with the phone.
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What do you think of the examples i posted?
I only notice the off-pink tint in GMail. Nothing major tbh.
I cannot see any pink on your photos at all, but I went to my brightness settings and copied what you did in the screen shots and YES my gray looks like it has a red/pink/rose tint at the VERY lowest setting. At 5% brightness it's fine, gray. at 0% setting it has the rose tint. This is NORMAL and a limitation of the display technology (pentile matrix). If this is what you mean, your screen is normal. It's only certain shades of gray that will be affected by this and normally only at minimal brightness settings. I thought you meant you had a pink blob on the screen centre etc? If you just mean the gray menu and ntificaiton bar etc appearing slightly rose coloured at lowest setting, this is normal. I presume the grays are fine when the you move the brightness bar up from 0% to 5% or 10% setting?
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I cannot see any pink on your photos at all, but I went to my brightness settings and copied what you did in the screen shots and YES my gray looks like it has a red/pink/rose tint at the VERY lowest setting. At 5% brightness it's fine, gray. at 0% setting it has the rose tint. This is NORMAL and a limitation of the display technology (pentile matrix). If this is what you mean, your screen is normal. It's only certain shades of gray that will be affected by this and normally only at minimal brightness settings. I thought you meant you had a pink blob on the screen centre etc? If you just mean the gray menu and ntificaiton bar etc appearing slightly rose coloured at lowest setting, this is normal. I presume the grays are fine when the you move the brightness bar up from 0% to 5% or 10% setting?
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Yeah its fine when its not on the lowest setting.
Thanks for taking the time to reply
I've notice the screen will smear/lag behind while displaying "true" black (pixels are off) areas of the screen in fast motion (pictures, backgrounds, etc...). I'm sure this is a common problem with this display type as I've read similar things before (purple or black), but wanted to make sure all is well on my expensive new toy. It seems to happen more when the brightness is turned down, but it can also be noticed heavily on gradient backgrounds while scrolling left/right on the home screen. Turning up the brightness does resolve the issue for the most part (you can still see it, but it goes away much quicker), but why is it so apparent on this display versus others (Galaxy S5)? Maybe having many more pixels to flip on and off in the affected area is the cause due to the phone having a 2k display versus the 1080p display of the Galaxy S5. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
I have this issue as well. I have not seen anymore information on this issue anywhere. Have you heard or seen anymore about this?
Yep. I too have the exact same issue. I wonder what the consequences will be when using thw Gear VR with our Note 4... probably weird smushy images I'm guessing
I've had this issue as well. I was on a Plane at night watching Dark Knight Rises. I have auto brightness on so it dims in lower lighting but in that movie there's a lot of dark scenes and you can def see the lag with the pixels during fighting scenes and fast movement.
abystus said:
I've notice the screen will smear/lag behind while displaying "true" black (pixels are off) areas of the screen in fast motion (pictures, backgrounds, etc...). I'm sure this is a common problem with this display type as I've read similar things before (purple or black), but wanted to make sure all is well on my expensive new toy. It seems to happen more when the brightness is turned down, but it can also be noticed heavily on gradient backgrounds while scrolling left/right on the home screen. Turning up the brightness does resolve the issue for the most part (you can still see it, but it goes away much quicker), but why is it so apparent on this display versus others (Galaxy S5)? Maybe having many more pixels to flip on and off in the affected area is the cause due to the phone having a 2k display versus the 1080p display of the Galaxy S5. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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i am having this issue.
on the european note 4
i have no idea what to do and i dont want to visit service on the holiday season..... :crying:
Mine does this also. Only when the brightness is extremely low. I think it has something to do with the pixels being "lazy" when the brightness is low. It would be a drawback that comes naturally from the benefit we get with OLED.
EDIT: To sum it up, nothing is wrong, it's natural, just turn up your brightness when it is critical to not have the smearing.
dragunbayne said:
Mine does this also. Only when the brightness is extremely low. I think it has something to do with the pixels being "lazy" when the brightness is low. It would be a drawback that comes naturally from the benefit we get with OLED.
EDIT: To sum it up, nothing is wrong, it's natural, just turn up your brightness when it is critical to not have the smearing.
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thank you so much for the relief.
that is what i undrestood too (from reading about Galaxy S4s with this issue and also Lumias)
But i really freaked out when i first mentioned this on my phone! and on the idea of possible service visit
fotisg24 said:
thank you so much for the relief.
that is what i undrestood too (from reading about Galaxy S4s with this issue and also Lumias)
But i really freaked out when i first mentioned this on my phone! and on the idea of possible service visit
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No problem. Glad I could help out. This is my first OLED screen to be honest, but I am pretty familiar with the technology.
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No problem. Glad I could help out. This is my first OLED screen to be honest, but I am pretty familiar with the technology.
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Word. I only noticed it in low brightness levels so I'm not worried. At least blacks are actually black, instead of some purple-ish weird color they had back in the first Note.
hyukki said:
Word. I only noticed it in low brightness levels so I'm not worried. At least blacks are actually black, instead of some purple-ish weird color they had back in the first Note.
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The poor color reproduction is the exact reason this is my first OLED screen. They've finally got it right.
dragunbayne said:
Mine does this also. Only when the brightness is extremely low. I think it has something to do with the pixels being "lazy" when the brightness is low. It would be a drawback that comes naturally from the benefit we get with OLED.
EDIT: To sum it up, nothing is wrong, it's natural, just turn up your brightness when it is critical to not have the smearing.
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turning my brightness to max doesn't help mine still has it :|
kamranhaghighi said:
turning my brightness to max doesn't help mine still has it :|
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Is it just some minor smearing while scrolling? I'm pretty sure most if not all devices I have used have this a little when scrolling quickly.
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Is it just some minor smearing while scrolling? I'm pretty sure most if not all devices I have used have this a little when scrolling quickly.
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its an 1 inch smudge while i'm in the gallery, or 0.2inch smudge while viewing movies (POC: On stranger's tide for example)
haven't noticed it in any games other than minecraft(clouds go purple) ! (i don't play it, touch controls act weird on my note)
i don't know why i seem to be the only one, i always wanted a note because it's been praised as the best display of all time i finally got a note 10+ and the display disappoints me to no end, first off the colors are dull, my xperia xz1 on super vivid mode has more vibrant colors, second off the brightness it's not amazing if i compare my note 10+ to my huawei mate 10 pro the huawei appears more vibrant and bright, the huawei is running a custom rom, my note 10 + has custom white balance settings with green and red turned down to 0 and it's still too yellow for my taste the screen mode is itensive and yes bluelight filter is off, when i use the note 10+ on it's own i get used too it and i see no issues with the display but then i start up my mate 10 pro and get a much whiter better white and overall brighter image, my note 10+ is set to +10 brightness and high performance mode all auto brightness off and max brightness, white still appears dull colors appear dull, why am i the only one who feels this way?
Was gonna ask if your blue light filter thing was on. The white seers into my brain unless I have the filter on. This seems to be the best display I've ever used. And you're saying other phones are brighter? I haven't found a single phone brighter than this one. Maybe a defective screen?
chetly968 said:
Was gonna ask if your blue light filter thing was on. The white seers into my brain unless I have the filter on. This seems to be the best display I've ever used. And you're saying other phones are brighter? I haven't found a single phone brighter than this one. Maybe a defective screen?
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i had the display swapped after the frame cracked the last display it had was the same and yes bluelight filter is off adaptive brightness is off i always make sure all of it is off from what i can tell i am not alone with this it seems the exynos model is overall more yellow than snapdragon
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Was gonna ask if your blue light filter thing was on. The white seers into my brain unless I have the filter on. This seems to be the best display I've ever used. And you're saying other phones are brighter? I haven't found a single phone brighter than this one. Maybe a defective screen?
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which white looks best to you in your honest opinion? the note 10 is as mentioned on the highest brightness possible with intensive mode turned on with the coldest possible setting and high performance mode with brightness 10+ adaptive brightness off blue light filter off brightness slider max
https://twitter.com/ZZCOOL/status/1177292994740924417?s=20
Not every note is that yellowish u have to win the Display lottery
I changed the Screen mode from Natural to Vibrant and the colors are a lot brighter and vibrant.
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i don't know why i seem to be the only one, i always wanted a note because it's been praised as the best display of all time i finally got a note 10+ and the display disappoints me to no end, first off the colors are dull, my xperia xz1 on super vivid mode has more vibrant colors, second off the brightness it's not amazing if i compare my note 10+ to my huawei mate 10 pro the huawei appears more vibrant and bright, the huawei is running a custom rom, my note 10 + has custom white balance settings with green and red turned down to 0 and it's still too yellow for my taste the screen mode is itensive and yes bluelight filter is off, when i use the note 10+ on it's own i get used too it and i see no issues with the display but then i start up my mate 10 pro and get a much whiter better white and overall brighter image, my note 10+ is set to +10 brightness and high performance mode all auto brightness off and max brightness, white still appears dull colors appear dull, why am i the only one who feels this way?
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Did you go into display and change it to the max resolution?
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i don't know why i seem to be the only one, i always wanted a note because it's been praised as the best display of all time i finally got a note 10+ and the display disappoints me to no end, first off the colors are dull, my xperia xz1 on super vivid mode has more vibrant colors, second off the brightness it's not amazing if i compare my note 10+ to my huawei mate 10 pro the huawei appears more vibrant and bright, the huawei is running a custom rom, my note 10 + has custom white balance settings with green and red turned down to 0 and it's still too yellow for my taste the screen mode is itensive and yes bluelight filter is off, when i use the note 10+ on it's own i get used too it and i see no issues with the display but then i start up my mate 10 pro and get a much whiter better white and overall brighter image, my note 10+ is set to +10 brightness and high performance mode all auto brightness off and max brightness, white still appears dull colors appear dull, why am i the only one who feels this way?
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You must have a dud. the screen on my Exynos N10+ is freaking amazing!
As zzcool said, my screen is absolutely gorgeous, now I see netflix in its full splendor, but you have to tweak the display settings to suit your taste
The display is what everyone who see's my Note 10+ mentions first. They are amazed at how good it is...
Maybe a side to side comparison to another phone might show it up but everyone who's seen it goes gaga over it...
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Did you go into display and change it to the max resolution?
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it's set to high performance which forces max resolution and max brightness, the images i posted earlier show the difference between my note 10+ and my mate 10 pro you see how the color of the white has a red tint despite being as cold as it possibly can get
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As zzcool said, my screen is absolutely gorgeous, now I see netflix in its full splendor, but you have to tweak the display settings to suit your taste
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my tweaks are the following
max performance with brightness 10+ enabled and brightness slider to the highest possible settingm, intensive with the temp slider to the far left as in coldest as it gets then advanced white balance both red and green turned down to 0 blue turned to max meaning the screen should have an extreme blue tint it doesn't, i tried the google books method and blue light is always off when i launch the app so it's not that, i even tried calibrating colors under accessability where you have to rearrange colored balls result are almost identical to what i had with a slight yellow tint to the white so worse than before i turned that off again
i had this issue with the original display and now the replacement one when i havenothing to compare to white looks great colors pop screen looks good white feels slightly dull but it's hard to tell, but then i go back to my xperia xz1 or mate 10 pro and feel a huge difference in white and overall color performance, both displays pop a lot more than the note 10+
might i add i am ultra sensitive to warm displays so what looks great to someone else might look like a yellow mess to me i always increase blue on all displays i have my sony af9 is set to cold with all color enhancers to max i need colors that pop with no yellow tint what so ever, i am not a fan of accurate colors at all
Being the most accurate display of colors doesn't mean it'll be your favorite. Maybe you prefer less accurate (seriously, no snark here). But brightness should be pretty clear cut... No idea why yours wouldn't be as bright.
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Being the most accurate display of colors doesn't mean it'll be your favorite. Maybe you prefer less accurate (seriously, no snark here). But brightness should be pretty clear cut... No idea why yours wouldn't be as bright.
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well i already know i hate accurate colors i want bright vibrant cold colors anything accurate to me looks dull and yellow the surface pro i have which is known for it's accurate calibration almost looked black and white to me until i got it decent by forcing intel control panel and increasing color intensity but the screen was so terrible on it i stopped using it i just couldn't deal with that display so it's been collecting dust ever since, my xperia xz1 is using super vivid mode with blue turned up to 171 the screen becomes complete trash without super vivid mode and it becomes the best display i have ever seen with super vivid mode turned on, i wasn't a huge fan of the display on the xperia 1 either that phone has no super vivid mode and the display was rather dull to me but the brightness and white was miles better than the note 10+ especially when it forced the brightness to max on apps like youtube (it dimmed outside of certain apps which i could not handle so i sent it back but on youtube the brightness was just mindblowing the white was so perfect and clear then it wen't gray as soon as it would dim when i exited the youtube app)
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which white looks best to you in your honest opinion? the note 10 is as mentioned on the highest brightness possible with intensive mode turned on with the coldest possible setting and high performance mode with brightness 10+ adaptive brightness off blue light filter off brightness slider max
https://twitter.com/ZZCOOL/status/1177292994740924417?s=20
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I would say the Mate looks slightly brighter and whiter. Not sure what could be happening. My screen looks great. I have to tone it down quite a bit so the images don't seer into my retinas. Simply turning off the blue light filter makes my eyes hurt.
Remove your sunglasses.
thank me later
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I would say the Mate looks slightly brighter and whiter. Not sure what could be happening. My screen looks great. I have to tone it down quite a bit so the images don't seer into my retinas. Simply turning off the blue light filter makes my eyes hurt.
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so it's not just me then?
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so it's not just me then?
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I believe that the Note interface is more greyish than white. This is why even without the blue filter, if you do not increase backlight alot, it is not quite white.
It can be seen on the Home screen, when you group-up some apps icons in a folder, have a look at the white of the icons and compare it to the white of the folder itself. Not same white. The surrounding white of the folder is grey, not white.
Same goes for the google search on home screen, it is not white compared to the the white of say, the Google Apps icon.
Maybe try another theme if you do not like it ?
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I believe that the Note interface is more greyish than white. This is why even without the blue filter, if you do not increase backlight alot, it is not quite white.
It can be seen on the Home screen, when you group-up some apps icons in a folder, have a look at the white of the icons and compare it to the white of the folder itself. Not same white. The surrounding white of the folder is grey, not white.
Same goes for the google search on home screen, it is not white compared to the the white of say, the Google Apps icon.
Maybe try another theme if you do not like it ?
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i set a pure white wallpaper in the google wallpaper app on both phones would upload the picture but uploads don't work for some reason
https://twitter.com/ZZCOOL/status/1177638746801479681?s=20
I have heard from few people that the screen although AMOLED, does not stay true black in dark areas, but have grey tint like LCDs do. How would you people using the device rate the screen and its contrast quality compared to industry standards like Samsung. Also, is the battery drain issue somehow connected to this pixels not turning off completely?
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I have heard from few people that the screen although AMOLED, does not stay true black in dark areas, but has grey tint like LCDs do. How would you people using the device rate the screen and its contrast quality compared to industry standards like Samsung. Also, is the battery drain issue somehow connected to these pixels not turning off completely?
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LED is the same, no matter which brand makes it. there are Three Manufacturers of LED displays, like universal Display Corporation (UDC), SAMSUNG and LG.
But when some Phone brand advertises their display with the name of Super Amoled then it made by Samsung.
and if they say OLED then it made by LG.
and apple usually use display by UDC.
CONCLUSION Realme use Samsung sAMOLED, 94% display market share occupied by Samsung and numbers are keep growing.
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I have heard from few people that the screen although AMOLED, does not stay true black in dark areas, but have grey tint like LCDs do. How would you people using the device rate the screen and its contrast quality compared to industry standards like Samsung. Also, is the battery drain issue somehow connected to this pixels not turning off completely?
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The amoled panel itself is same as samsung as its super amoled and manufactured by samsung.
But the problem is color os dark mode not panel.
Cos applies different shades of black in system wide dark mode, so it may appear grayish but its true black if you are watching movies, using apps with dark mode and on dark wallpapers.
And for me, there is no unusual battery drain.
Standby drain is 0.5-0.8%/hour which is really good.
It last 6 hours of gaming and on moderate usage i have got around 10 hours of sot.
But as we know enabling dark mode saves some amount of battery .But in case of color is dark mode as it is not total dark ,does is save too???
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But as we know enabling dark mode saves some amount of battery .But in case of color is dark mode as it is not total dark ,does is save too???
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Tbh, none of dark mode saves significant battery, its not even proofed properly, its just commonly considered, even if it saves, it won't make much difference.
Personally tested, maybe it can add few more mins but can't make difference of a hour in sot.
Man I hate OLED lottery.
Does anyone else have this issue? It's something similar to this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/green-tint-issue-oneplus-7t-t3986231
I'm debating if I should exchange it or just keep it, it's only noticeable at low brightness
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Man I hate OLED lottery.
Does anyone else have this issue? It's something similar to this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/green-tint-issue-oneplus-7t-t3986231
I'm debating if I should exchange it or just keep it, it's only noticeable at leow brightness
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I have the same effect in original Youtube app. It is just a bad background gradient in the application. Don´t blame the phone....
When I open Messenger with black background and grey status bar at the top of the app in the same brightness level, there is no greenish effect.
I am also having uniformity issues. Very noticeable, unfortunately. As there are no 512GB Ultras available anyway ATM, O will just have to live with it for the moment. Maybe I get used to it...
buddy66 said:
I have the same effect in original Youtube app. It is just a bad background gradient in the application. Don´t blame the phone....
When I open Messenger with black background and grey status bar at the top of the app in the same brightness level, there is no greenish effect.
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mm weird, I see it in every single app with dark grey background, even in settings (w/Dark mode on), the bleeding is a lot bigger from the top right corner.
EDIT: Just checked the messenger app (FB messenger) and background is completely black so most pixels are off except for the letters and gray search bar but bleeding wouldn't be noticeable.
vwite said:
mm weird, I see it in every single app with dark grey background, even in settings (w/Dark mode on), the bleeding is a lot bigger from the top right corner.
EDIT: Just checked the messenger app (FB messenger) and background is completely black so most pixels are off except for the letters and gray search bar but bleeding wouldn't be noticeable.
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I've just checked it with Gmail since it is also a Google application and you can notice the bleed when the lights in the room are turned on and I try to cover the top of the phone to see it. After turning the lights off, whole app is equally gray so in my opinion it is just an optical illusion. If I recall well the AMOLED displays use some kind of dimming (tinkering with the frequency) in order to reach a lower point of the brightness that is not noticeable for human eye. Probably this can be seen when covering a gray part of Google apps in a room that has another not so bright light source.
buddy66 said:
I've just checked it with Gmail since it is also a Google application and you can notice the bleed when the lights in the room are turned on and I try to cover the top of the phone to see it. After turning the lights off, whole app is equally gray so in my opinion it is just an optical illusion. If I recall well the AMOLED displays use some kind of dimming (tinkering with the frequency) in order to reach a lower point of the brightness that is not noticeable for human eye. Probably this can be seen when covering a gray part of Google apps in a room that has another not so bright light source.
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I made a picture. It is showing a 5% gray test pic and supposed to be uniform. It is easy to see and I was kind of shocked when instantly noticing it the first time I was using it in the dark. Settings and many parts of the dark one UI are using grays in that range.
Anybody else? If it is rare, it will be worth pushing for an exchange.
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I made a picture. It is showing a 5% gray test pic and supposed to be uniform. It is easy to see and I was kind of shocked when instantly noticing it the first time I was using it in the dark. Settings and many parts of the dark one UI are using grays in that range.
Anybody else? If it is rare, it will be worth pushing for an exchange.
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I did the same test, I'm attaching a picture of my Note 10+ and the S20 Ultra side by side. Uniformity seems a lot better on the note 10+, however on white background the Note 10+ turns more red when I slightly tilt it while the S20 Ultra seems to shift colors a lot less and still white overall.
Still not sure if it's worth the hassle to return.
Ok, the fact, that it looks very much like mine can be good and bad ?
Could you please check, if is different at 60Hz? For me, it is clearly different.
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Ok, the fact, that it looks very much like mine can be good and bad
Could you please check, if is different at 60Hz? For me, it is clearly different.
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Oh wow, you're right! I set it to 60 hz and QHD+ and uniformity on the gray test got noticeable better, still some green on top right corner and around the punch hole but noticeable less. I love reaaally 120 hz during normal use though.
Thanks for confirming, same here. I wonder, if this is something, that can be fixed in software... And if the rumoured 'dynamic refresh raze' update might change things.
Could please note people check their Ultras displays?
Same here with my s20 more visible at 12hz refresh rate with dark theme
Damn it, ok, then I really hope that it is fixable... Weird.
I am using smiled displays since Symbian Nokias, never had one, where I noticed it so much.
I remember all the Mate 20 Pros with LG screen had this issue buy way worse in some cases
https://www.google.com/search?q=mat...JtXpfSDsL9sQXomrbgDQ&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS731US731
In some cases they were normal during the first days but the problem evolved until the display was unsusable in low light conditions, hope the same won't happen to our phone during the next weeks.
yeah I don`t have this issue I did the screen test in Gmail and download the app that does all the different colors including gray, at the lowest brightness and at other levels of brightness at 120hz its all uniform.
2003vstrom said:
yeah I don`t have this issue I did the screen test in Gmail and download the app that does all the different colors including gray, at the lowest brightness and at other levels of brightness at 120hz its all uniform.
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Mine is most noticeable at around 35-40% brightness and with 120 hz but still noticeable with 60 hz while on the note 10+ I can't see any green at all at any level of brightness. I think it's a quality issue and variation of OLED screens but not sure if it would count as "defective". Samsung doesn't do exchanges so it would be a pain to return everything and recorder without the promotions and reservation/pre-order credits. Ugh not sure what to do yet.
EDIT: Btw I tested with gmail and didn't notice the green in the app since it's light gray but as soon as I drop down the notification panel (w/dark mode on) the green is immediately noticeable. It's only with very dark gray that lookd almost black which is what Samsung use for all their apps (settings, calculator, messages, etc.) when dark mode is on. I wish they used true black so pixels were completely off like with facebook messenger.
I am also unsure what to do. I have to say, however, that this is the device that gives me the most uncertainty ever. For this opportunity price I want a good to perfect display. @vwite Don't you think that the dark grays are too bright as well? It wouldn't be so visible otherwhise. I also sent my picture to the 'write the CEO' address and a pledge to be aware of the issue:
https://www.samsung.com/uk/info/contactus/email-the-ceo/ (example: UK)
I will try checking in a store, which will be totally hard because of the light there. Maybe I will just order another one... Or a plus ?
Made another picture 'for the CEO' :silly: and will also attach the source image I showed on screen. To replicate:
- 25% brightness
- Show 5% picture in a dark room
- made picture with an S10+ on full auto
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Made another picture 'for the CEO' :silly: and will also attach the source image I showed on screen. To replicate:
- 25% brightness
- Show 5% picture in a dark room
- made picture with an S10+ on full auto
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Thanks! Please let me know what they say.
Actually I ordered an S20+ now and will most likely just give the Ultra back in the first 2 weeks. Yes, it is a pain, but I really can not stand the screen as is. I am even putting it in its box before I have the plus and using my S10+ in the meantime - the green tint is driving me a little nuts.
I am having a hard time justifying the thickness and weight for a feature I hardly use (amazing zoom) while having an inferior main camera at the same time (focus issues).
i noticed this issue too on my 20+
it seems to be worse some days less bad other days
it also is very dependable on how much ambient light is around - eg is much more noticeable in dark rooms
and yes is an issue with Samsung dark mode that isn't true black but some dark greyish
other then this - all other colours look amazing = so not sure if the screen itself is defective
I do hope there will be a software update that will fix this or make it less visible