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ROM/kernel Not Playing Nicely- No "Deep sleep" & "Titanium Backup" & More
I'm on Juggernaut v4.1 & Synergy kernel v.10 with an undervolt at all times in different profile modes.
I noticed this a few days ago, I'll go in order of the "symptoms" my SGS2 T-989 experienced:
1. Random shut downs which won't allow me to reboot without taking the battery out or long-pressing the power button.
2. Titanium backup lags like CRAZY. If I go to my app list, it freezes while I'm scrolling, with the only solution of a Force Close. Batch backup freezes at any random point and doesn't ever pick back up. Even a force close/reboot doesn't make any difference.
3. If I get a text message or notification, the screen doesn't turn off (only stays at the lockscreen). At one point everything worked okay.
4. My phone doesn't "deep sleep" when my screen is off. I know for a fact that this is a problem because I use CPU Spy very frequently to check up on what states my processor runs. Deep Sleep has been inactive/never used in the last few days since I reset my CPU Spy timers once I suspected a flaw.
I suspect that all of the above symptoms are all propagated by the same issue.
As a general statement, I could just format/reFlash my ROM/kernel but I would like to backup my stuff beforehand. I had this problem earlier when I first got my SGS2 but had nothing on my phone at the time so I never bothered posting about it. I'm hoping it isn't just my phone and someone has some sort of solution.
Thanks for peaking and helping out.
Joy2DaWurld said:
I'm on Juggernaut v4.1 & Synergy kernel v.10 with an undervolt at all times in different profile modes.
I noticed this a few days ago, I'll go in order of the "symptoms" my SGS2 T-989 experienced:
1. Random shut downs which won't allow me to reboot without taking the battery out or long-pressing the power button.
2. Titanium backup lags like CRAZY. If I go to my app list, it freezes while I'm scrolling, with the only solution of a Force Close. Batch backup freezes at any random point and doesn't ever pick back up. Even a force close/reboot doesn't make any difference.
3. If I get a text message or notification, the screen doesn't turn off (only stays at the lockscreen). At one point everything worked okay.
4. My phone doesn't "deep sleep" when my screen is off. I know for a fact that this is a problem because I use CPU Spy very frequently to check up on what states my processor runs. Deep Sleep has been inactive/never used in the last few days since I reset my CPU Spy timers once I suspected a flaw.
I suspect that all of the above symptoms are all propagated by the same issue.
As a general statement, I could just format/reFlash my ROM/kernel but I would like to backup my stuff beforehand. I had this problem earlier when I first got my SGS2 but had nothing on my phone at the time so I never bothered posting about it. I'm hoping it isn't just my phone and someone has some sort of solution.
Thanks for peaking and helping out.
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Why not just try a different kernel? You can flash a different kernel without loosing anything(if all goes well) ... I use the Faux kernel, and I have no sleep or standby issues ... and have used it with Jug
Dear all,
Is anyone else experiencing the following problem?
When the phone goes to sleep mode during the night hours it wont receive any messages for whatsapp etc. It seems that it turns off the 3g connection when you turn the screen off during the night hours.
Does anyone know a possible fix for this?
I have gone through all the settings and could not find anything about this.
Cheers.
I recently got this on my Desire Z too, and I have not changed any settings on that. Then I noticed it's happening on my One X too..
no 3g late night
Hi there, i have a motorola photon. in the settings menu you can go to what is called battery and data manager. then tap on battery mode. it's default is set to nighttime saver, which will kill your syncing after 15 minutes of inactivity in the hours between 10pm and 5am. i set mine to performance mode. this will sync all of the time and i don't really care if it takes up battery since i am awake and ready to pop in a new battery off my kick a$$ battery dock wall charger!! hope this helps....
SharkDog2 said:
Dear all,
Is anyone else experiencing the following problem?
When the phone goes to sleep mode during the night hours it wont receive any messages for whatsapp etc. It seems that it turns off the 3g connection when you turn the screen off during the night hours.
Does anyone know a possible fix for this?
I have gone through all the settings and could not find anything about this.
Cheers.
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I think it's got something to do with what HTC said about "the phone learning" when you check things like mails ect.. so after it has learned that you do not check mail (for instance) during the night it disengages activies... or not
@mykeyvee, there are no such options in the stock rom on this phone.
Anyone have any other ideas?, i want everything to be synced 24 hours a day.
SharkDog2 said:
@mykeyvee, there are no such options in the stock rom on this phone.
Anyone have any other ideas?, i want everything to be synced 24 hours a day.
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I don't think it's anything to do with settings. My Desire Z is on 2.3.7 and only recently have I got this bug.
My One X is stock unrooted. No settings for power saving.
Accounts and sync>sync schedule>smart sync
Is this what is effecting you
http://www.htc.com/help/www/howto_iframe.aspx?id=141796&type=1&p_id=440
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unfortunately this only works with the mailw hich i do not user, the phone seems to do this with whatsapp and gmail aswel.
SharkDog2 said:
unfortunately this only works with the mailw hich i do not user, the phone seems to do this with whatsapp and gmail aswel.
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This. I woke up and my 3G wasn't even on. I had to disable and enable data again to get connected.
Same problem here. Whenever my phone is in standby mode for a longer period of time (as far as I've seen it doesn't matter whether it's during the night or day), the data connection (3g) is disconnected.
On my previous phone, a desire Z, there was a setting 'data always on' which addressed this issue. This setting however seems to be missing on all android 4 phones.
**edit:
Contacted Dutch HTC support; they claim it's a feature. Hope they restore the setting in the future..
I have noticed this too this morning.
I woke this morning and went into the battery settings and you can see the graph that all data was shut off over night.
How do we fix this.
Piss. Wondered why it used virtually no battery overnight...
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Exactly same here...just as u switch on the screen....it connects to wifi or 3g instantly...
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I have received email overnight though....
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I was thinking that maybe it was just the 3g/wifi connection which was going into a sleep mode after a long period of inactivity.
I've tried increasing my mail sync at night to once in 30 minutes to prevent the 3g connection from going to sleep and disconnecting. (had it at once in 4 hours)
Now when i wake up and turn the screen on, the 3g icon is already there, and my mail has been synced last in the previous 30 minutes.
Fixed it?
Same issue here, weird thing is that I can't seem to tie it down to either a specific battery-percentage nor a specific time of the day. It's really annoying though, as I would like my device to be connected 24/7. Tried setting a mail-account for 15 min update, so will see how much wifi/3g has been on tomorrow.
Edit: Definitely not a battery issue, but rather a time issue. Battery is at 80% (used the phone little today) and 3G/wifi has been disconnected for the past 2 hours even when mail is set to check every 15 min. I can see that for many people it's not important at night, but I wish we at least had the option to turn it off :/
Possible Fix
Download this app.. Minimaltext
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.devmil.minimaltext&feature=search_result
Create a widget 1x1, under the tap behavior, select start another activity, then select an activity. Scroll now to settings, expand it, choose power saving setting..
Leave the rest default then press okay.
Click the widget and you will find some settings, including put data connection to sleep when screen is off. I haven't tried it. Hope this helps.
Not a bug!
This is not a bug, but a feature : scheduled standby mode
If on Sense 4.x, settings are similar to Sense 3.5, you should go into settings > power then scroll to standby mode. Default setting is auto, which means that the phone learns your sleeping phases and disable every wirless connections during this time when your screen is off, and enable it again automatically when you wake up (even if your screen is still off).
You can disable this feature, or (my favorite option) manually set the duration when you allow your phone to enter and exit deep standby mode.
(For me it's a great feature, as I really dislike having my phone producing airwaves close by my head when I'm sleeping. Before I went to Sense 3.5 on my DHD, I didn't have this option and had to enable plane mode before sleeping ant enter my PIN code every morning to exit plane mode, which was less convenient).
If you want to disable this, download smartsync disabler from the play store. Im pretty sure there is a thread on xda too with an app available to download.
...Or read my previous post... Market's bloatware is not needed, setting for this should be in power settings, as on Sense 3.5.
Anyone notice problems with the NY Times app recently? I noticed some high network activity out of my Note Pro over the last few days, and dug into it last night. Turned out, my tablet never went to deep sleep, and looking at battery usage, the NY Times app was behind only the OS and System.
I can't uninstall the NY Times, but I can revert to the factory image, and that seems to have put a halt to the network activity, and also the tablet is now going into deep sleep again. So it looks like it was an app update, somewhere along the way?
What's deep sleep as opposed to sleep as opposed to going into airplane mode?? Your posting about the ny times and sleep is difficult to understand.
ericbergan said:
Anyone notice problems with the NY Times app recently? I noticed some high network activity out of my Note Pro over the last few days, and dug into it last night. Turned out, my tablet never went to deep sleep, and looking at battery usage, the NY Times app was behind only the OS and System.
I can't uninstall the NY Times, but I can revert to the factory image, and that seems to have put a halt to the network activity, and also the tablet is now going into deep sleep again. So it looks like it was an app update, somewhere along the way?
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nychotxxx said:
What's deep sleep as opposed to sleep as opposed to going into airplane mode?? Your posting about the ny times and sleep is difficult to understand.
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Not difficult to understand at all, this is apparently a wake lock issue with the application.
Tapping the power button to turn off the screen puts the device in sleep mode but CPU speed still varies as background activity continues. Application processes can place wake locks on the CPU to keep it from going into deep sleep which is the lowest power consumption setting. A device that never goes into deep sleep will experience higher battery drain with the screen off for extended periods than one that does go into deep sleep. Sleep has nothing to do with airplane mode, which turns off all radios and has no direct impact on CPU.
First thing I would try with the NY Times app is turn off all notifications for it. Personally I don't use it and have it frozen so I can't verify the wake lock issue on my device.
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muzzy996 said:
First thing I would try with the NY Times app is turn off all notifications for it. Personally I don't use it and have it frozen so I can't verify the wake lock issue on my device.
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Much better explanation than I could have given, thanks! So wish I could root my tablet (a Verizon...), feel like I'm trying to debug things with both hands tied behind my back!
So far, the NYT problem hasn't come back - can't freeze or uninstall it without root, but have removed it from Magazine UI and basically backed out all updates by restoring it to its factory image and clearing its data. BTW, it was set to only get updates every 4 hours. Obviously it had a different idea.
Yeah I hate it when apps get like that.
It's times like that where I'll use Greenify sparingly to push the misbehaving app into hibernation. Otherwise I'll just let android do it's thing.
A few days ago, I noticed the NY Times app only it's you view 10 articles for free every month. I was going to say, why not trash that garbage? It requires root, though, since it's actually a system app. That is just profoundly stupid.
At least Samsung didn't pick CNN as it's news app, amirite?
Searched the forum and did some google searches but only came up with one thread somewhere else that never went anywhere. This may be glitchy apps (although I have both on my Droid Maxx as well with no issues) but I thought I'd ask anyway.
So the problem is the tablet(SM-T700, Android 5.02) will seemingly go to sleep while actively using an app (so far it's common in 8 Ball Pool and has also happened during Beach Buggy). I don't know if it's app related or a setting somewhere. I have power saving modes turned off (as well as auto screen brightness). Anyone else experience this?
Well it may be a combination of the app not telling the screen to stay on (twitch app had this issue for about 3 days then it got an update) any you having the auto screen off timer set too short.
The permission used is under others and is called quite simply (prevent tablet sleeping). With out that mode set if you do not touch the screen in (insert screen shutoff timer length here) the tablet will turn the screen off to save power.
Thanks, I'll check that out. I'm going to run a few more apps and see if it happens with them also.
I'm experiencing a weird problem with my M8. The unit would turn itself off all of a sudden. This happens without a low battery warning and no other error messages or warning displayed on screen. No beeps or audio cues, either. I would be looking at it and using it as per normal when it would just power down and turn off all by itself. This has happened twice in the last two weeks. In both instances, they have these in common:
a) Battery was low but not critically so. IIRC, the first time it happened the battery was at 25% and the latest incidence the battery was at 18%. The low battery warning usually given at 15% power wasn't displayed.
b) In both cases, I've just only turned the display on & started using the M8 for less than 15 seconds before it turns off.
c) In both instances, the mobile data & GPS was on. Wifi was off. Phone wasn't charging and the camera/flash was also off.
What I do after this happens is I would go home & charge the phone using the original M8 charger. The charging battery icon would be displayed and the charging level tallies with the last charge level that I see before the phone turns off. I let the phone charge for about 10 minutes or so before tinkering with it.
What's frustrating is that after these sudden shutdowns, some of my settings were reset & the phone will be wonky. I had to re-do the settings in both the settings app & also Google settings according to my preferences. Some default apps were cleared as well, so the phone would ask which app I'd like to use for my Home screen (either Sense Home or Nova Launcher, which I use exclusively). Some developer options were reset too, e.g animation scale etc. Other basic settings as well, such as auto updating apps in Google Play Store.
Also, first time it happened, I was locked out of my phone. The lock screen is displayed but all the PIN combinations I've tried seems to be wrong. The lock screen would go off after I try inputting the PIN. Restart by pressing vol button with power button didn't work at all. I'd touch the screen, the lock screen will be displayed, I'd try inputting PIN but I guess it's wrong because the screen just goes off. In the end, I had to reset the PIN number using Android Device Manager on Chrome running on my desktop PC. Only then was I able to access my phone. My wallpaper was reset, although my app icons on the desktop was the same as before. Apps were all there.
The 2nd time this happened was yesterday. I wasn't locked out of my phone but all my text messages (SMS) were lost. No other loss of data, as far as I can tell. But some of the settings, default app preferences & also app permissions were reset. Had to redo them all over again. Getting a bit tiring, this.
I don't understand what's happening. My M8 is on 6.0, stock ROM & unrooted. Never rooted. I've done the battery calibration steps once but that was before the Marshmallow update. When my M8 was running Lollipop, there were times when it would turn itself off as well but it was triggered by using the camera flash at low battery levels. However, settings, app preferences & permissions were not reset at all then.
Has this happened to anyone? What could be wrong? Would appreciate any & all feedback Thanks in advance.
This happens to me too. My battery is dodgy and it turns itself off when the battery is displaying anywhere up to 30%!! What I have found is that if you attempt to turn the phone on and it turns back off during the boot process then this is what screws up the settings. As long as it is charging and completes the boot without turning off then the settings are fine.
This is a MM problem. Wasn't present with LP as you and others have reported.
The only possible fixes on your end is to do a factory reset and then run the phone down until it shuts off and then charge to 100% with the phone still off. You can also try holding power+vol up+vol down for 2 minutes. This should wipe battery calibration stats. These suggestions may or may not resolve the problem but are worth trying.
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Its happening to me!
I thought this was MM issue but i have flashed cm 14.1 and still the same problem is happening. My phone turns of somewhere between 15%-30% everytime. I have tried re-calibrating the battery but it didn't help. Now i am thinking to sell the device due to this issue.
My girlfriend had the same problem with her HTC one M8.
I've replaced the memorycard with a new one last week and it didn't happen since. Hopefully this will solve the problem
Hi together.
I want to give an information about my experience with sudden shut off. I had this issue with my M8 since about six months now. Tried the stuff with recalibrating the accu without success.
Last thing I did was changing the accu. And now everything is all right. The power is remaining much longer over the daily use and I can bring it down below 15% without sudden death.