Would it be possible for anyone to port the multitasking Cornerstone app to our devices?
This app is makes multitasking preform similar to the Samsung Galaxy Note 101.
The source code is freely available but must be baked into a rom.
You can find more info here: http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/index.php
Here's a video of its functionality:
Hi,
I am a custom rom fan and use them in most of my devices. But with my Note 8.0 I only use original Samsung based rom.
because I don't want to lose Samsung features like S-Pen etc.
What I wonder is, with a custom rom ;
- is the s-pen supported ?
- is there an alternative to Samsung AllshareCast support ? (in standards this is miracast support. Do the custom roms support miracast ?)
- What would I miss from Samsung features if I use custom rom ?
Thanks.
The s-pen works and is very functional on custom roms however you need to find the right software to go in tandem
S note is only compatible with touchwiz based roms and Imo is the best but actual pens functionality and sensitivity is as sensitive on any custom rom
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk
thnaks for the fast reply.
So you mean S-Pen works but S-note (app) does not work. That's good news because I don't use S-note.
But for example, I can use Adobe Photoshop with S-Pen ?
What else I miss with custom rom ?
and what about screen mirroring ? (miracast)
mrmrmrmr said:
thnaks for the fast reply.
So you mean S-Pen works but S-note (app) does not work. That's good news because I don't use S-note.
But for example, I can use Adobe Photoshop with S-Pen ?
What else I miss with custom rom ?
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You may of misunderstood what he replied. Just to clarify....if the custom rom is based on Touchwiz then SNote will work fine otherwise it in most cases won't.
If the custom rom is based on Touchwiz you should actually gain more functionality and not lose any. AOSP roms will vary on what is working and what is not.
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and what about screen mirroring ? (miracast)
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If I am not mistaken I believe that is confirmed working on civato's latest rom.
A little clarity:
There are ROMs based on the official Samsung ROMs, and they generally support all of the same features as stock but without bloatware and with additional features. Civato's excellent ROMs are a great example; they perform better, have more features (particularly kernel-based), allow the user to select which bloatware to install, and generally are wonderful. Consider it stock ROM fixed up. I have used them for nearly a year and can recommend them highly. This means you get S-Note, and Allcast I believe at this point. There have also been other apps that have been ported from other Samsung devices to this ROM.
Other ROMs are based on AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and do not include the Samsung-specific software. No TouchWiz, S-Note, or any app that depends on the Samsung APIs in their stock ROM. The Photoshop app that is shipped for Samsung crashes immediately on my OmniROM and I had to uninstall - I guess that it is calling a Samsung API. So now, with Omni-ROM I will be dealing exclusively with the world of generic apps, which is not a problem. The stylus works out of the box. To have an app launch when the stylus is removed it is necessary to add a non-free app from the store. This will also enable other features of the pen. There are stylus-supporting note programs (e.g. Papyrus) which work just fine. Most apps using a stylus should work (e.g. Sketchbook) unless they were written using the Samsung APIs, in which case that should be obvious in the store as they will be Samsung-only apps. Edit: if you like to use the stylus for general text entry then you will need to get an app for that as well; they are available - but the neat way that the Samsung keyboard can switch to stylus input is lost.
I have no knowledge of the Allcast issue, other than noting that there are apps available. DLNA is certainly available through any number of apps for any ROM.
You will find a good source of ROM info on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630650
mrmrmrmr said:
- is there an alternative to Samsung AllshareCast support ? (in standards this is miracast support. Do the custom roms support miracast ?)
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Both AllshareCast (Miracast) and Chromecast screen casting work fine on the most recent @civato ROM's (FlexNote 3.0 and FlexBurst 1.0). This app and the official app are required for Chromecast screen casting.
ramjet73
Hi,
I would like to make some clarification to my question. By "custom rom" I meant "non-Touchwiz based" rom. Of course, Samsung/Touchwiz based roms do support everything related to Samsung APIs.
So my question is;
with a non-Samsung based rom, shall I be able to use S-Pen with 3rd party apps ? (like Adobe Photoshop - not the one distributed with Samsung devices but the commercial Store version)
Also does miracast work with them ? (not DLNA , real screen mirroring)
Thanks.
Yes you can use your stylus. Miracast depends on Rom kernel development. Due the fact that this is included in Stock Samsung Kernel Source maybe not working...
That is a problem of all Samsung devices, lack of Source code...
Ok. Allshare Cast is Samsung feature but AOSP based roms do have Miracast support , correct ?
mrmrmrmr said:
Hi,
I would like to make some clarification to my question. By "custom rom" I meant "non-Touchwiz based" rom. Of course, Samsung/Touchwiz based roms do support everything related to Samsung APIs.
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That's not necessarily true.
Some custom ROM's based on Samsung stock break things that work on the official ROM by using a different kernel, modifying the framework or implementing alternate versions of Samsung components from other devices. You need to check the OP and read through the thread to determine if any stock features are broken or missing.
It is definitely harder to mimic all the features of the stock TouchWiz firmware on ROM's compiled from AOSP source. If you plan to use one of those ROM's you really need to verify that the features you use/need are available and can expect to add several third party apps to get anything close to stock sPen support.
Here's a similar thread from last October and this post should help with fleshing out Spen support for AOSP ROM's even though it was written for the Note 3.
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Ok. Allshare Cast is Samsung feature but AOSP based roms do have Miracast support , correct ?
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Allshare Cast is just Samsung's name for Miracast but it is still certified by the WiFi Alliance so it should be compatible. From the Wikipedia article on Miracast:
On 29 October 2012, Google announced that Android version 4.2 (updated version of Jelly Bean) will support the Miracast wireless display standard, and by default will have integrated features for it.[8] As of January 8, 2013, the LG Nexus 4 and Sony's Xperia Z, ZL, T and V officially support the function,[9][10] as does HTC One, Motorola in their Droid Maxx & Ultra flagships, and Samsung in its Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note II under the moniker AllShare Cast. The Galaxy S4 uses Samsung Link for its implementation.[11] In October 2013, BlackBerry released its 10.2.1 update to the existing line of BlackBerry 10 devices, which brings Miracast and Wi-Fi Direct support to the Z30,Z10,Q10 and Q5 models.
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Chromecast screen casting is different and obviously requires a Chromecast device. I have done both successfully on the stock ROM and the latest versions from @civato but don't expect either to work on AOSP based ROM's at this point. They do work with the M10 snapshot for CM11 on my Nexus 4 but the Note 8.0 is not a Nexus device and I think those functions are highly dependent on the kernel used.
If you want all the features of the Note 8.0 working then you should stay with something close to the stock ROM. It will take a lot of time, effort and some money for apps just to get away from TouchWiz interface.
ramjet73
paying for 3rd party apps is not an issue if there are apps supporting S-pen.
I would stick with Samsung ROM if I believed Samsung will support this device anymore. But I doubt Samsung will release Android L to it.
So , I should turn to non-Touchwiz rom at some point. (I like the idea of 8 inch note device, and Samsung doesn't release a 2014 edition replacement)
2 things important for me on the Note device:
- S-Pen usability with 3rd party apps (I understand that non-Samsung roms support S-Pen)
- Screen mirroring (miracast should work if the rom is based on AOSP)
Any advice for a good non-Touchwiz rom ?
mrmrmrmr said:
- Screen mirroring (miracast should work if the rom is based on AOSP)
Any advice for a good non-Touchwiz rom ?
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"Should" and "does" are two different things.
Out of curiosity, I loaded the M10 snapshot (the latest) for CM11, just to see if it supports screen casting for Miracast and/or Chromecast. The answer is "no" and it doesn't even appear in the display options for settings even though the M10 release for my Nexus 4 works fine with both.
The moral of the story is don't expect much better support in the future from the AOSP ROM makers. CyanogenMod will probably release an L (CM12) version since the N51xx is an officially supported device but don't expect it to support all the features of the Note 8.0 that the stock ROM does.
For a ROM recommendation, I'm planning to stay with the enhanced stock versions from @civato.
ramjet73
I appreciate your confusion on the stylus support, so let's talk about that. First off, the stylus is not unique to Samsung. Most if not all ROMs will provide the status of the raw stylus data (location, pressure, button, storage slot) to applications. Programs written to access the stylus at this level should work on any device that has the (Wacom?) stylus, Samsung or not. The PS Touch in the store should work fine on AOSP - the one I tested last night was a freebie tied to the Samsung ROM and didn't work on Omni-ROM (no surprise there). The fly in the ointment is that Samsung includes a library of stylus functions in their ROM which makes it easier to develop apps for use with a stylus, and which will lock the apps to Samsung devices (the APIs are Samsung-specific). Any app using those APIs will not work on AOSP ROMs. It is easy to tell the difference in the Store because those apps will be for Samsung-only; if it works on non-Samsung devices it is a good bet it will work with open ROMs.
In addition to the stylus software library, Samsung includes software to do things when the stylus is removed from storage or touches hot-spots, a keyboard option to use the stylus and handwriting recognition to create text input in any program, and stylus-enabled programs like S-note that can also convert your scribblings to text with varying levels of success - YMMV. These functions can all be added back into AOSP ROMs with programs from the store, at a modest price. Of course they will be a little different but the functionality will be there.
My recommendation would be to go with Civato's latest ROM (FlexBurst) for now, assuming you are using your stylus a lot and enjoy the Samsung implementation. Civato has added into the ROM support for aircommand, which is available on other Samsung devices but not stock for the Note 8. Also, there are newer versions of S-note available. Samsung (and thus FlexBurst) is currently at 4.4.2, while Omni-ROM is at 4.4.4; I don't see the small lag as anything important at this stage. Once Samsung stops supporting it there will be time to convert to AOSP. In any event once your Note is rooted and TWRP Recovery installed it is a simple matter to make a Nandroid and Titanium backup before installing a new ROM to try out; if you don't like it then wipe and reinstall - not a big deal. The only downside is that you will break your warranty if you have a KitKat bootloader (required for Civato's latest as well as Samsung's latest).
Hope this helps,
Greg
Hi all,
I would like to know, if it's possible to do it, how to update from TouchWiz 5.0 to TouchWiz 6.0 on Galaxy Tab S 10.5 (wifi). I have the Galaxy S7 phone (with TouchWiz 6.0) and prefer that version of TouchWiz to the one I have on my tablet.
I tought that updating my tablet to Marshmallow would automatically put me on TouchWiz 6.0, like on my S7, but that didn't happen. As a side note, I updated to marshmallow manually since I didn't get the Marshmallow update on my tablet yet.
Thank a lots,
Blaccko
Hi again,
So I realized that I have TouchWiz 6.0 on my tablet now. However, I thought that with the same version of Android and TouchWiz, two different devices from Samsung would have the same interface look. Apparently, I'm wrong. How come my S7 and my Tab S have different interfaces (drop down menu is gray on S7 and withe and blue on Tab S for instance)?
Is it possible to get on my Tab S the same interface than the one on my S7?
Thanks again,
Blaccko
Yep, I know what you mean about the blue grey colours. This is actually quite standard practice for Samsung - when they update older devices to newer major Android versions, they don't also "update" the TouchWiz user interface. e.g. The S5 running MM looked pretty much the same as it did on LP. It's the same thing with the Tab S.
Of course, the important thing is that Samsung have done the hard work of getting the various drivers updated from manufacturers, so at the least things are stable. There will definitely be custom ROMs (soon!) that will port the latest UI features over from the latest devices like the S7 and Tab S2
Thansk for your answer!
Where are good places to look for ROMs? Also, what do I need to look for when choosing a ROM (I've never used one before)?
Thanks,
Blaccko
Look in the Android Development section for this device (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development) - IronRom seems popular.
Thanks.
Samsung Experience previously called TouchWiz is a touch interface developed by Samsung with its partners. It is a layer of customization implemented in Google's Android operating systems, which aims to give the devices a modified appearance to that already supplied by the operating system in its factory version. TouchWiz is used internally by Samsung for phones with sophisticated functions (smartphones) and tablets, and is not available under license for third parties.
The latest version of TouchWiz is 7.0, also called TouchWiz Grace UX; released next to the Samsung Galaxy Note 7
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I had been a long time user of OPPO devices and have gone on to like the ColorOS interface over Android. Now I have been gifted a Samsung A70 and want to check if I could install the latest available ColorOS on A70?
No that is not possible .
No, some developer have to port it to make it work on A70. Looking at the scene very few developers are interested in the device. we only see two custom roms for the device.
You may convince a dev by gifting him the device.
But if you dont like the Samsung UI,
easiest option you have right now is just to find a theme that looks like it or have Nova launcher + theme.
It's not that I disklike the UI on Samsung. Also, I run Microsoft Launcher...so it is not about the UI.
I'd rather have the ColorOS version of Android on my device. ColorOS had so many inbuilt features, IMO, that were much better.
Anyway, thanks for the replies.