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I sold my HD2 on Thursday and let me say first off that I have no regrets whatsoever: I absolutely love this phone. Before I sold the HD2 I played some music tracks on both devices through the loudspeaker and headphones jack and noticed a HUGE differential in volume.....I thought the HD2 speaker was pretty tinny but it was at least audible; the Desire speaker volume is incredibly underpowered...being practically inaudible in a moderately noisy environment. This problem seems to extend even as far as the headphones socket since some of the songs I was unable to play at full volume on the HD2 for fear of bursting my eardrums are simply not loud enough for me on the Desire.
Am I the only person to think the volume levels are too low? Is there perhaps a way to increase the pre amp levels. It's as quiet as the first generation iPhone which was REALLY BAD.
Any thoughts from anyone here?
Hi there - I've been searching online to see if anyone else has been having this problem and came across your post.
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example.
I was looking forward to using it - and Spotify, in partcular - as a replacement for my aging iPod. But there's just no way.
I can't believe this is common to every phone, as surely there would be more people complaining about it. Are there different firmware versions knocking about? It's got me pretty frustrated.
Ok this is not nice, speaker volume is very important to me. This is the first time I see somebody be this negative about it though...
Damn..
Further, you coming from the HD2, any more thoughts you want to share about the switch?
How is the 4.3 inch to 3.7 inch 'jump'?
Kind regards
Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.
Don't have the device yet but in a video review the guy said the speaker was pretty loud, so it's probably only a software problem
chipshop said:
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example..
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Juste buy in-ear headphones ! your ear will thanks you, pushing the volume to 100db because the tube is masking noise : not a good idea believe me.
I too, coming from an iPhone, find the headphone volume painfully low.
I use an under speaker pillow to listen to podcasts without disturbing the wife, and on the iPhone she'd sometimes complain that she could hear it. Now with the Desire I find that sometimes I can't hear it and that's at full volume.
I know this is probably obvious but I take it you have gone through. Audio settings
And maxed the volume? And checked any volume controls on headphones? If both set to max
And still not loud then the handset is faulty so get it replaced
Now!!
Mine set to max would be at ear bleeding levels!!
The speaker quality isn't great, but considering I don't use them that much it is good enough for me.
Am a little surprised with the headphone issues, considering that I have my volume set just under halfway and it is more than loud enough for me.
I am using my Sennheiser earphones, but the volume is fine with the supplied HTC ones too.
what kind of bit-rates are you using for music? ... 128? or more, ... as the quality effects the loudness somehow I believe.
try experimenting with different bit rates and see how that goes
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Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.
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I think this might be due to new UE regulations about maximum volume in mobile devices, though im not 100% sure if its already in the system.
However Im pretty sure that in couple days/weeks there will be some hacks/apps/ to change that
So have I got a faulty phone?
Or are people just overly forgiving??
Everything is set to max. I've also noticed that the Mic quality in videos is also shockingly poor in terms of volume. I wonder if all of these functions are shared by the same chipset.
leoni, I'm having just the same problem. I think it must be a problem with some of these phones. I can't believe that people are just being overly forgiving.
I'm not looking to push the volume up too high, but if I can't hear it when there's a little background noise going on, then that's a serious design flaw.
I'd like to do a comparison with another Desire at some point, hopefully I'll bump into someone using one soon...
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I'm using MP3s in 256k bit rate format. All volume controls are set to max and there is no volume control on the headphones I am using.
I'm sending mine back. I'm due an upgrade on Monday anyway so I'll test one in the shop and see if It's the same. The headphone volume is the main issue for me; its just too low.
I also think that the volume is way too low. Just out of curiosity, could this be a Rom issue? I'm using the stock TMO Rom. To the people who think it's loud enough, which Rom are you on?
My biggest problem is with the volume through the headphones....speaker volume I can live with, though it is crap and tinny
I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
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I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
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are you on TMO ROM?
Loud speaker isn't audible above the sound of my shower, which is a real shame as coming from a n95 8gb the loud speaker was great. Oh well. I'm a forgiving type!
I have found music volume to be pretty low but I'm fairly convinced it is a software/Rom issue because the volume in some applications is loud! Doesn't made much sense. Running T-mob here.
I have a really big issue with my HTC One V, since i used to listen to a lots of music on my old phone, i hoped the sound quality would be at least decent on One V, but i hear a lot of background noise in my earphones, not the stock ones ofc, since they are really crappy, i have t-Jays One, which quality is rather superior, but on this phone i hear a lot of cracing noise, like some magnetic/electronic distortion, wich is unbelievably annoying, and it's hearable even with music off, right after i plug in my earphones, is that a reason to give my phone back, or have it repaced? (European version)
If I turn the volume up 100% I can hear a (very) slight amount of noise, but other than that the quality is excellent with zero cracking.
i don't have that issue with stock earphone..
i dont hv, my one v play music really good
Thanks guys, i'll just get it replaced, i guess you can lock this thread...
I have a One V with me and it too has a lot of background noise through the headphone jack. With the headphones plugged in there is no noise but the moment some sound starts playing on the phone you can clearly hear it and it's constant regardless of the volume of the music or whatever you are listening to. While you should get your phone replaced, there is a chance that the new one might have the same issue.
I had a terrible noise problem as well, but over time it slowly decreases. Noise is not yet completely lost, but now is in a tolerant level.
Interesting, is not it?
I have it too. Sometimes noise is so annoying it makes me want to trow off the phone. Noise is present even at boot sound. Changing headphones helps nothing. I had SGS earlier and it had perfect sound with it's wolfson dac, so I'm very disappointed now.
Hi there, I just bought this phone and I'm having the same problem... Did anyone find a solution? Anyone got it replaced and solved the problem?
I think I'm replacing mine as well, this noise problem is really anoying...
When I initially switched from my Galaxy Nexus to the S4 I was amazed by how good the sound quality was. The overall noise level has dropped to just about everything and the bliss of finally having a decent audio experience made me happy. I'm now starting to notice high amounts of noise when playing songs with emphasized bass lines. This song for instance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udsaOEdBvL4
The initial drum hits sound like absolute crap coming out of the S4 now. At first I thought maybe my headphones were going so I swapped them back to my Gnex to make sure, sounds great on the Gnex.
Anyone else experiencing this?
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/s...kling-higher-volumes-galaxy-s4-4199380-3.html
Apparently it's a known issue that effects all units, terrific.
Hi
My wife has had this phone for 8 months now. For a few months she's been complaining about very poor signal with the phone - significantly worse than her last phone with the same network. To make matters significantly worse, about 2 weeks ago the speakers packed up entirely. No sound issues at all - whether ringtones, alarms or media - except with headphones plugged in or when on a call (and on a call the speakers still do not work, but the earpiece does).
Has anyone come across either of these issues before? I'm thinking that the next step is unlock and flash a replacement OS to see if there's some bug there or if it's a hardware issue. If it is hardware, we're probably just looking at getting a new phone - I've heard mixed things about the Wileyfox support.
If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be very grateful!
Not sure about speakers, but my reception is terrible too.
Me too... no audio from speakers
I've just had this exact issue start up on my WileyFox Swift 2X this morning. It was playing a YouTube video just fine and then all of a sudden the audio went out and it never came back! All I hear is a very faint tick, tick, tick, tick... noise where it should be playing sound. Such a shame because the device was working pretty alright before this issue.
(Plugging in headphones works okay btw. It's just the main speaker that's gone out.)
Install the Galaxy Wearable and Galaxy Buds software.
Update software and Buds firmware, this is important because the old versions sound sucks.
Turn on/go to Developer Options in Settings and on the Bluetooth Codec setting toggle on Samsung's "Scalable Codec".
The new software corrects a long standing (Note 9) settings misconfiguration in advance audio settings.
You shouldn't hear (or even see the toggle for it) this happen anymore.
Retoggle codec in Developers Options, reset the Wearable and/or Network settings (if needed) if the sound or performance goofs up.
Clearing the System Cache can sometimes clear up gremlins too.
The current firmware and software version work very well and sound great.
I use Poweramp for my player with it's equalizer enable and lower bass bands cranked up with Wearable set to Dynamic most times.
Galaxy Wearables just pushed out another software update.
I'm running on Pie and the Galaxy Buds are sounding more solid then ever.
About time.
Going upgrade to Buds + soon. Dual drivers... better sound and a new price cut
The Buds are sounding pretty good though.
Buds Live... no; the original design works well.
Picked up a pair of the red Buds+ for $107 (intl version)
Slightly heavier than the original but otherwise the appearance is almost identical as is the wings,earpieces and body of the Buds.
The case charger is interchangeable with the original Buds as are the silicon pieces.
It come with a new control panel and runs separately from the older Buds control panel. This software is not interchangeable.
First order of business is to update the software; if Wearables is already loaded it will auto-update once you couple the new Buds+ via bt and add the Buds+ control panel.
Time to update the Buds+ firmware.
Galaxy Store must be enable for this and for software updates.
Do firmware updates with the case open, it took me about 2 minutes; these flashed much faster than the origin Buds.
Sit it on a table and have the phone nearby. Take a break... you want a clean flash.
Never interrupt a firmware update in progress, it can toast a Bud(s).
The menu in Wearables will grey out during the firmware flash to the Buds and go back to normal when update is complete*.
Still playing with these, so far, so good. Don't have the sound dailed yet.
Make sure the sound equalizer in Advance Sound Settings in turn off; the Bud's software toggled it on. That was a surprise.
I use the Poweramp equalizer. Not sure why it did that otherwise no glitches.
The equalizer settings on the new control differ from the old.
The sound profile is different for the new Buds as well.
Cleaner sound but less deep bass than I like... still playing with them. Volume level setting/db is very similar to the original.
Battery life is excellent and the app is running clean with no excessive battery consumption.
Range is also excellent.
Not in a signal congested area so can't comment on that.
Controls aren't sorted out; may have some conflicts there because of my Poweramp settings. Or maybe it's just stupid fingers... fun times
Buds + are excellent and better than live IMHO. More battery life and sound is up to particularly. Got em day 1.
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Buds + are excellent and better than live IMHO. More battery life and sound is up to particularly. Got em day 1.
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Yeah they are.
•A cool new feature was added to the new Wearables apk for the plus's; it now shows case charge level
Calls are crystal clear.
Less muddy in the mid bass to lower bass range than the original. Holds up better on complex tracks, vocals sound more solid.
Way too much emphasis on midrange and highs though especially at 1K (a known hot spot for these).
Tweeking them in now with Poweramp... without Poweramp I wouldn't be liking them.
Remember to turn off the damn Dolby to dail them in, lol.
Current EQ profile*:
*its already changed twice since this image... this will take some time.
Wearables EQ set to normal, no Dolby.
First I used the app Neutralizer to develop a real time device/hearing sensitivity profile.
I starting tweaking in the Poweramp equalizer using this as a rough template to help set up the equalizer.
Don't like the sound I get using Neutralizer (it's suppose to be a stand alone solution), in fact after I'm done the profile I package block this apk because it messes up the volume levels even when not turn on.
Still playing with it... sounding better. I have about 2 dozen equalizer profiles that I can flip through to compare the sound now. Below is my base template derived from the Neutralizer results which are also shown.
Still playing with the 100 hz to 1 khz range; that range is critical to vocals.
Playing with that and the stuff in the 2-8 khz range as well. At this point it's perception and personal taste, I'll repeat the same track segment multiple times to see which of the new profiles sounds best.
Very easy to do this with Poweramp.
With the Buds seal is everything. Any air leakage kills the bass badly. Too tight though will prove to be uncomfortable.
A very small amount of coconut oil every day or helps to seal and also to prevent outer ear infections ie swimmer's ear. Wipe the Buds after each use.
Remember you screw these in to position not just push.
Just about there... this seems pretty close. Might jack up the 31 and 62Hz sliders up more though. This profile falls apart on the Who album Live at Leeds/My Generation so...
Eventually will have about half a dozen presets that should cover most of the albums I have. Poweramp let's you assign an eq profile per song.
The Buds+ definitely sound better and the new Wearables app has been improved as well.
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Samsung just pushed out yet another software update to Buds+ Wearable app.
They added experimental "Labs".
The Bud+'s seem to be more responsive than the first generation. Link up fast... they're snappy.
Sound Q is a definite upgrade but they need a good equalizer... makes a huge difference.
Liking these little red devils.
I recommend Poweramp if you have a lot of audio files; minimum mp4 preferably wav, HDCD or higher resolution.
With mp3's the bass cut off is around 60hz... that sucks.
I'm hearing a lower bass roll off around 25hz.
Using Dolby trashes them out especially the lower bass ranges. Dolby's never was great; a good sign...
The Buds+ are an all around upgrade from the original Buds. Cleaner sound and better definition.
Samsung is putting some serious ongoing effort into both firmware and software with excellent results.
The original Buds got off to a very rocky start, not so with these devils, they rock
About time Sammy...
I am thinking about getting the buds+, how big or little is the lag when playing games? I mostly use hedphones for this, wired ones, I mean, but I am afraid the usb port would get extra-wear this way
winol said:
I am thinking about getting the buds+, how big or little is the lag when playing games? I mostly use hedphones for this, wired ones, I mean, but I am afraid the usb port would get extra-wear this way
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I have the same concern with the port especially with headphones as one tends to handle the phone from the bottom. What a mess.
Not for sure about the lag time. Sometimes notice a bit on movies, usually not.
Lol, I have one vid game, Tail Gunner Charlie and they seem ok on that. There may be a slight delay but it's not very noticeable on this game if present.
For a Samsung which is the only brand that supports Scalable codec these are a good choice. The only audio upgrade codec wise are Sony LDAC bt devices. Their sound is superior but they're not as wearable as the Buds.
The Buds simply never fall out and twist in easily.
Samsung boned us here by not supporting the best bt HD codecs on the 10+ bt chipset
However they've made substantial firmware and software improvements for the Buds. The latest rolled out about week ago.
The Buds+ are an all around upgrade and can be had for around $100.
The original Buds and their firmware were shaky; midbass was especially bad. Somewhat improved now.
nevermind lol, found it
Samsung just pushed out the latest Buds+ firmware update.
Sample some .wav and HDCD songs through Poweramp with a custom EQ profile, no Dolby and Wearables EQ disabled.
Wow.
Vocals, male and female are crystal clear; midrange bass and up has been improved.
Using a tone generator 25 hz is audible but below that it breaks up.
30 hz is solid and after that the decibels rapidly come up.
The EQ slider for 30 hz is at its max on Poweramp and it gives it the bump it needs.
Definitely engaging and fun to listen too.
For a Franklin you will not get a better bt Bud for Samsung phones in part because no one else supports SSC and the Sony ones using LDAC aren't near this price range.
The original Buds never sounded this good...
Note: if after updating firmware/software you start getting undulating like fluctuations on complex music extending into the lower bass...
>Do a network reset <
It sounded great after the update but flipped to nasty*.
Not sure what triggered this but a flush fixes it.
They should sound great after this last update.
*very noticeable on Julie London's Why Don't You Do Right on the bass cello. Sounded plain raspy; a reset fixed it.
How do I do a network reset?
In setting>connections>more connections (Pie)
Pretty painless.
Samsung rolled out yet another software update for Wearables about 5 days ago.
Samsung rolled out yet another Buds+ firmware update.
Definite upgrade. They continue to tweak their algorithms.
John Fogerty's /110 in the Shade the mid to low range bass is tight.
The choppiness I sometimes noticed is gone.
More presence; individual instruments stand out more and vocals are sounding real good.
American Woman/The Best of the Guess Who, an HDCD is sounding real good, punchy and tight.
Bye-bye mediocre firmware... gonna have some sugar tonight.
Sammy got it right
Had to do a network reset because of bt audio gremlins after I rebooted after the firmware update. Cleared data in Wearables, cleared system cache as well. It worked.
The Buds+ are quit the ride.
Sounding great again for music albeit some heavy equalizer shaping via Poweramp.
Wearables WQ set to normal with Dolby disabled.
This is one of my many Poweramp EQ profiles.
It works well on many but not all songs in my music library.
Notice the roll off between bands is smooth and incremental. This generally sounds best. This profile is purposely heavily bass biased with a negative attenuation after 1khz to kill excessive brightness of the Buds+. Long listening sessions don't fatigue my hearing at reasonable listening levels. I may bump down the 31 and 62 bands a bit... depending how I like it better. Vocals are clear and instruments are sounding good. I listen mostly to R&R...
Adjust according your hearing and taste; what sounds great to me might sound like dog meat to y'all
Another profile that I now use a lot.
*Note that the clipping limiter -is- enabled!
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In setting>connections>more connections (Pie)
Pretty painless.
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I can't find it
GDT said:
I can't find it
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Simply search for it in settings.