Device: Redmi Note 5 AI (Chinese 3/32)
Firmware: Pie Beta 9.3.29
Anti Rollback Index: 4
I was in MIUI official beta and upgraded to MIUI Pie Beta couple of days ago. I didn't like the update much and decided to flash custom ROM for the first time (for this device). So, I flashed Havoc OS 2.3(whyred) and after dealing with encryption I was able to boot successfully. But, camera and audio(music player, video player, YouTube), MTP, flash and few other things were not working, so I flashed Pixel Experience(whyred). Unfortunately, I wasn't able to boot this time. The rom booted into fastboot mode instead of system.
My understanding after roaming around XDA is that it's happening because my base firmware is pie. So, I want to flash an Oreo firmware. Is that possible? What about ARB?
Sayeed427 said:
Device: Redmi Note 5 AI (Chinese 3/32)
Firmware: Pie Beta 9.3.29
Anti Rollback Index: 4
I was in MIUI official beta and upgraded to MIUI Pie Beta couple of days ago. I didn't like the update much and decided to flash custom ROM for the first time (for this device). So, I flashed Havoc OS 2.3(whyred) and after dealing with encryption I was able to boot successfully. But, camera and audio(music player, video player, YouTube), MTP, flash and few other things were not working, so I flashed Pixel Experience(whyred). Unfortunately, I wasn't able to boot this time. The rom booted into fastboot mode instead of system.
My understanding after roaming around XDA is that it's happening because my base firmware is pie. So, I want to flash an Oreo firmware. Is that possible? What about ARB?
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I recovered my phone by flashing Stock ROM "miui_HMNote5HMNote5ProGlobal_V10.2.1.0.OEIMIXM_5191f339c3_8.1.zip" via TWRP. It will overwrite TWRP with Stock Recovery, You have to reflash TWRP via fastboot.
After that you will be able to flash any Custom ROM successfully.
yawarniazi said:
I recovered my phone by flashing Stock ROM "miui_HMNote5HMNote5ProGlobal_V10.2.1.0.OEIMIXM_5191f339c3_8.1.zip" via TWRP. It will overwrite TWRP with Stock Recovery, You have to reflash TWRP via fastboot.
After that you will be able to flash any Custom ROM successfully.
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Thank you. But I was looking forward to flashing a Oreo firmware so I flashed Chinese Stable 10.2.2 ( With ARB Index 4) by MI Flash, which happened to be my previous ROM before pie update. It worked for me. Currently using Havoc Os without any bug.
I'm running on Beta 9.3.28 Pie on Redmi Note 5 Pro. how to install Havoc OS 2.3? When I try to flash it on TWRP recovery, it shows ERROR 7. So I had to flash the Beta ROM again. Pls help
ArjunIyengar said:
I'm running on Beta 9.3.28 Pie on Redmi Note 5 Pro. how to install Havoc OS 2.3? When I try to flash it on TWRP recovery, it shows ERROR 7. So I had to flash the Beta ROM again. Pls help
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Seriously? Post above ...
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Seriously? Post above ...
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Sorry I didn't understand bro
Before your instal havoc os, clear data/system and flash firmware to 8.1.0.Reboot to recovery again.
https://osdn.net/projects/xiaomifir...oGlobal_V10.2.2.0.OEIMIXM_8be41b2243_8.1.zip/
is that means if i am on PIE with the new twrp for pie 29-3 - i have to flash 8.1.0 firmware (10.2.2.0) first to flash any Oreo AOSP rom ???????
Well going back to oreo softbricked my phone. Don't go through TWRP. use fastboot method.
don't go to other ROMS if u were at MIUI pie beta because most of them are yet to support miui pie firmware.
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Hey guys, I am new to whyred , flashed alot on other phones tho. Got some questions regarding the process of things I have to do to not mess up. I would do it like this:
0. I am on 9.5.19. miui global stable.
1. Unlock bootloader after 360 hours (hopefully)
2. Boot into Fastboot, boot up twrp image via command and then flash twrp via twrp.
3. Do I have to flash lazyflasher when I flash magisk? Which version of magisk is recommended atm? 1600?
4. After flashing one (or both, I don't know) I would go with flashing aosip or havoc (which is better on battery, features and over all performance?).
5. Do I have to flash some firmware or anything?
6. Since I am on Anti 4 (probably, didn't check yet but I am quite sure since I updated on 9.5.19) do I have to be aware of something else important?
Thank you guys for every help. If my answers will get answered and everything runs smooth sailing I will write a noob/starting guide to focus the knowledge a bit more. It seems really clustered in this forum
Do not flash any firmware for now. Since your are in 9.5.19 it has anti 4 enabled.. flashing firmware over anti 4 will brick your device.
Unlock bootloader
Boot to twrp and flash twrp
Wipe system cache dataa and flash custom ROM and gapps
Reboot to system
Reboot to twrp and flash magisk
SunilSuni said:
Do not flash any firmware for now. Since your are in 9.5.19 it has anti 4 enabled.. flashing firmware over anti 4 will brick your device.
Unlock bootloader
Boot to twrp and flash twrp
Wipe system cache dataa and flash custom ROM and gapps
Reboot to system
Reboot to twrp and flash magisk
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I still at 9.2.13 didn't update to 9.5.19 in that case I can flash and roll back to any firmware below antilock right?
Username.php said:
I still at 9.2.13 didn't update to 9.5.19 in that case I can flash and roll back to any firmware below antilock right?
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Yes. If you are in 9.2.13 build then you have to flash firmware along with custom ROM.
But if you are running 9.5.19 build do not flash any firmware. Just ROM and gapps is enough
SunilSuni said:
Yes. If you are in 9.2.13 build then you have to flash firmware along with custom ROM.
But if you are running 9.5.19 build do not flash any firmware. Just ROM and gapps is enough
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Which firmware are you referring to? You mean I can roll back or do I have update to certain firmware to flash custom Roms?
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Which firmware are you referring to? You mean I can roll back or do I have update to certain firmware to flash custom Roms?
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Yes you have to flash firmware file recommended by custom rom developer to avoid problems while using custom ROM. And its not related to anti rollback protection.
All the firmware recommended by developers doesnt have anti rollback protection but you shouldn't flash firmware file if you are using 9.5.19 stable build or 8.7.12 beta build because these build contains ARP and flashing firmware in ARP enabled device will brick your mobile
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Yes you have to flash firmware file recommended by custom rom developer to avoid problems while using custom ROM. And its not related to anti rollback protection.
All the firmware recommended by developers doesnt have anti rollback protection but you shouldn't flash firmware file if you are using 9.5.19 stable build or 8.7.12 beta build because these build contains ARP and flashing firmware in ARP enabled device will brick your mobile
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I'm a bit confused here. I have always been under the impression that firmware = ROM (with other phone brands) and they seem to be discussed interchangeably. Now with my Xiaomi Note 5 Pro, I hear about these as separate items a lot. What is the difference between firmware and the custom ROM, at least in the Xiaomi world? How do I know when I am dealing with one or the other?
TIA,
eisenbergw said:
I'm a bit confused here. I have always been under the impression that firmware = ROM (with other phone brands) and they seem to be discussed interchangeably. Now with my Xiaomi Note 5 Pro, I hear about these as separate items a lot. What is the difference between firmware and the custom ROM, at least in the Xiaomi world? How do I know when I am dealing with one or the other?
TIA,
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Your understanding is correct firmware is nothing but a ROM, but in custom ROM, developers dont include bootloader (In custom ROM world firmware contains bootloader related stuffs) in their OS because they will make use of bootloader from stock ROM thats why developer recommended firmware files so that their ROM works perfectly without any problem.
I might be wrong but this is how things work here. If you are on lastest global MIUI beta ROM then you dont have to flash recommended firmware file by custom ROM developer
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Your understanding is correct firmware is nothing but a ROM, but in custom ROM, developers dont include bootloader (In custom ROM world firmware contains bootloader related stuffs) in their OS because they will make use of bootloader from stock ROM thats why developer recommended firmware files so that their ROM works perfectly without any problem.
I might be wrong but this is how things work here. If you are on lastest global MIUI beta ROM then you dont have to flash recommended firmware file by custom ROM developer
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So when people talk about flashing firmware, they're really saying to flash/change the bootloader? Does the bootloader have a name, version number we would reference, or it's just 'the bootloader for MIUI Global 9..5.19.0'?
If I understand you correctly, if someone offers a ROM with and without firmware, you could install the ROM without firmware and it would work ok, but installing with the firmware (changing the bootloader) would make the ROM work better? Or just do the ROM with firmware if you have problems with the version that didn't install the firmware/bootloader?
I'm on MIUI Global 9.5.19.0. (just normal ROM), but with unlocked bootloader, twrp, Magisk installed (I can't work without my Titanium Backup Pro!)
eisenbergw said:
So when people talk about flashing firmware, they're really saying to flash/change the bootloader? Does the bootloader have a name, version number we would reference, or it's just 'the bootloader for MIUI Global 9..5.19.0'?
If I understand you correctly, if someone offers a ROM with and without firmware, you could install the ROM without firmware and it would work ok, but installing with the firmware (changing the bootloader) would make the ROM work better? Or just do the ROM with firmware if you have problems with the version that didn't install the firmware/bootloader?
I'm on MIUI Global 9.5.19.0. (just normal ROM), but with unlocked bootloader, twrp, Magisk installed (I can't work without my Titanium Backup Pro!)
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Most of the firmware recommended by developers contains older bootloader (Antirollback protection version 3)
Since you are in 9.5.19 your bootloader has Antirollback protection (ARP 4) so if you try to flash older firmware then your mobile will get bricked so avoid flashing any firmware recommended by developer because you already have latest bootloader
Firmware name will be based on global beta ROM version
My Note 5 Global is on stock MIUI 9.6.4 ARB4 with TWRP recovery and Magisk. If I download the ROM from the MIUI website would I be able to dirty flash it over my existing MIUI 9? Does the new ROM contain updated firmware? Could I brick my phone if I tried to restore a TWRP backup of MIUI 9 over a failed MIUI 10 installation because of ARB?
Thanks
dwl99 said:
My Note 5 Global is on stock MIUI 9.6.4 ARB4 with TWRP recovery and Magisk. If I download the ROM from the MIUI website would I be able to dirty flash it over my existing MIUI 9? Does the new ROM contain updated firmware? Could I brick my phone if I tried to restore a TWRP backup of MIUI 9 over a failed MIUI 10 installation because of ARB?
Thanks
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well i think it needs to reset phone as you said it yourself it updates new firmware.
2 question if your twrp back up its a 9.5.17.0 or eralier then yes itll brick. as this will be ARB3 and miui qo ARB4.
i dont understand why so much fuss over ARB4. i can do samethings as in ARB3. i just cant use command to flash. i need command to boot into image then install twrp from within twrp using twrp.img.
raptorddd said:
well i think it needs to reset phone as you said it yourself it updates new firmware.
2 question if your twrp back up its a 9.5.17.0 or eralier then yes itll brick. as this will be ARB3 and miui qo ARB4.
i dont understand why so much fuss over ARB4. i can do samethings as in ARB3. i just cant use command to flash. i need command to boot into image then install twrp from within twrp using twrp.img.
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But I assume the OTA update for phones with stock recovery does not reset the phone. And I don't know if the new rom actually contains new firmware.
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dwl99 said:
But I assume the OTA update for phones with stock recovery does not reset the phone. And I don't know if the new rom actually contains new firmware.
Sent from my Redmi Note 5 using Tapatalk
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i used miui updater 3 dots and data package from miui 9 to first beta 10 it reset my phone completly.
dwl99 said:
But I assume the OTA update for phones with stock recovery does not reset the phone. And I don't know if the new rom actually contains new firmware.
Sent from my Redmi Note 5 using Tapatalk
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Data will not clear. I have updated from 9.6.4 to MIUI10 using OTA update.
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raptorddd said:
i used miui updater 3 dots and data package from miui 9 to first beta 10 it reset my phone completly.
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Yeah moving from stable to beta or vice versa clears the data but moving between stable to stable ROM will not clear data
Thanks but my main concern is doing the update via TWRP rather than OTA. Can this be done as a TWRP dirty flash or does the OTA run a script during the update?
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dwl99 said:
Thanks but my main concern is doing the update via TWRP rather than OTA. Can this be done as a TWRP dirty flash or does the OTA run a script during the update?
Sent from my Redmi Note 5 using Tapatalk
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You have to flash full recovery ROM in TWRP . Yes you can do dirty.. MIUI10 has anti4 bootloader same as 9.6.4
So I dirty flashed the update with twrp then flashed magisk. Everything went fine and I still have twrp.
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dwl99 said:
My Note 5 Global is on stock MIUI 9.6.4 ARB4 with TWRP recovery and Magisk. If I download the ROM from the MIUI website would I be able to dirty flash it over my existing MIUI 9? Does the new ROM contain updated firmware? Could I brick my phone if I tried to restore a TWRP backup of MIUI 9 over a failed MIUI 10 installation because of ARB?
Thanks
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I flashed from mui 9 stable to miui 10 beta via twrp without any wipes and it worked just fine, magisk got unistalled but reinstall went fine too, so, go for it
Hello.
I have a bootloader unlocked, twrp and a custom rom (now its havoc) and I had Xiaomi.eu too.
There is any way to back to global miui without brick my phone?
Thank you.
will not brick the device.
There are two ways to install MIUI for you:
1) Use MI Flash to install the Stock-ROM through fastboot (you will have the option to lock the bootloader or not, and you will lose the TWRP)
2) Download the ROM that is installed by Recovery and install as any ROM. (You will not miss the TWRP)
1thomas said:
will not brick the device.
There are two ways to install MIUI for you:
1) Use MI Flash to install the Stock-ROM through fastboot (you will have the option to lock the bootloader or not, and you will lose the TWRP)
2) Download the ROM that is installed by Recovery and install as any ROM. (You will not miss the TWRP)
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It's so simple as that? I will not have any problem about anti-rollback?
I have restore using old backup nothing lose using redwolf with arb enabled. No need reflash.
nunomsgodinho said:
It's so simple as that? I will not have any problem about anti-rollback?
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this only happens between ROMs MIUI .. example: being at MIUI 10.2 and returning to MIUI 10.1
1thomas said:
this only happens between ROMs MIUI .. example: being at MIUI 10.2 and returning to MIUI 10.1
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But I have a friend that said that bricked her phone because tried to put a oreo rom after having a pie rom!
nunomsgodinho said:
But I have a friend that said that bricked her phone because tried to put a oreo rom after having a pie rom!
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he may have done something wrong, it happens, but if you do it right you will not have the bricked device.
First rom with arb v4 was 9.5.19, so u can install anything from this to latest 10.2.0.1 (imo best choice). You cant brick phone unless you try to flash older roms.
1thomas said:
this only happens between ROMs MIUI .. example: being at MIUI 10.2 and returning to MIUI 10.1
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Wrong information... One can easily install any ROM between 9.5.19 to 10.2.1
Use fastboot method to return back to global stable
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nunomsgodinho said:
But I have a friend that said that bricked her phone because tried to put a oreo rom after having a pie rom!
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Probably she flashed older version of Oreo ROM (below 9.5.17 version)
And MIUI based on android pie is around the corner for our device.. After installing android PIE miui ROM there is no chance to install Oreo based miui ROM
hello all,i was using unofficial redwolf twrp recovery(pie fw compatible) and flashing custom roms on pie firmware...then i wanted to go back to oreo roms so i flashed 9.6.4 firmware then rom aosip 8.1 and then opengapps oreo 8.1 after i rebooted system from the recovery and got stuck in a bootloop with fastboot working...what isthe solution for this??Please mention the updated links of the required files.Thanks in advance
Thunderboltp said:
hello all,i was using unofficial redwolf twrp recovery(pie fw compatible) and flashing custom roms on pie firmware...then i wanted to go back to oreo roms so i flashed 9.6.4 firmware then rom aosip 8.1 and then opengapps oreo 8.1 after i rebooted system from the recovery and got stuck in a bootloop with fastboot working...what isthe solution for this??Please mention the updated links of the required files.Thanks in advance
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flash fastboot rom with miflash tools.
All the stock MIUI rom available have an anti-rollback lv 0. Am I basically SOL until Xiaomi releases a rom that is anti-rollback lv 1 or is there a workaround? My phone is the global version if that helps.
shineburst said:
All the stock MIUI rom available have an anti-rollback lv 0. Am I basically SOL until Xiaomi releases a rom that is anti-rollback lv 1 or is there a workaround? My phone is the global version if that helps.
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I think I have the same phone as you do. My last lifeline was to try and flash the Pixel boot.img and see if that would at least get me recovery. No luck. Not really sure what to do at this point, but I think that it's the anti-rollback that may be causing a problem for me as well - just not sure what else is on there that could prevent it from accepting and booting a flash recovery. None that I've tried (lineage, pixel, orange, or twrp) work.
I think I'm just going to set the phone aside for a few months and hope that something develops in the meantime. Right now the phone is stuck in fastboot and is still a recognized device. I'd hate to blackscreen it by experimenting.
Just an aside, at this point I'd be very cautious about trying to flash a custom ROM to any handset that's been OTA upgraded to Android 12/Miui 13.
I gave it one last try using zgfg's recommendation here:
Bootloop Fastboot (stock) / Phone locked for security reason (Xiaomi.eu)
Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE (Lisa) Stock 12.5.8 EEA Bootloader unlocked, Orange Fox recovery and Magisk Canary 25.2 I was running the same set-up for a couple of months, by only updating when newer Magisk was released or some module. I never had any...
forum.xda-developers.com
Downloaded the -fastboot EU ROM which came with it's own .batch file in the archive. It pretty much wiped everything from the phone and installed a functioning version of A12/Miui13 and the handset is working again.
It's the same with me *anti 1*, I wanted to install miui eu. Is it smart, if anyone can give some advice. Thanks and regards .
akins0405 said:
It's the same with me *anti 1*, I wanted to install miui eu. Is it smart, if anyone can give some advice. Thanks and regards .
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Fastboot ROM, Stock or Xiaomi.eu (eu if you wanna flash other roms) if you haven't solved it yet.
abcxdaabc said:
Fastboot ROM, Stock or Xiaomi.eu (eu if you wanna flash other roms) if you haven't solved it yet.
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stock is current anti =0, I'm interested if I install some rom, will I be able to return to stock since my anti is 1 .
akins0405 said:
stock is current anti =0, I'm interested if I install some rom, will I be able to return to stock since my anti is 1 .
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I was on MIUI 13.0.10 EEA and my anti was 1.
akins0405 said:
stock is current anti =0, I'm interested if I install some rom, will I be able to return to stock since my anti is 1 .
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Just like Mthw, i was on MIUI 13.0.10 EEA and anti 1, gone back and forward between stock (only used stock fastboot) and custom, only problem was trying to flash other roms from stock, without first flashing eu fastboot.
abcxdaabc said:
Just like Mthw, i was on MIUI 13.0.10 EEA and anti 1, gone back and forward between stock (only used stock fastboot) and custom, only problem was trying to flash other roms from stock, without first flashing eu fastboot.
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That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for the help and greetings.