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[Q] How to use App Ops on the Note P605?

Hey there,
since a week I own a Note 10.1 2014ed with LTE. So far I didn't modify anything on it and run the stock -MJ2 firmware.
I want to restrict some apps of accessing what the don't need to access and since 4.3 supposedly has this rights control feature called "App Ops" already integrated, I checked how to use it... Google gives many links to descriptions how to open the feature, they are all the same: Either you use a launcher that can start "Activities" (like Nova launcher) or you install one of the many apps from Playstore which do the trick as well.
Here is what I found on the Note:
Whenever I start the App Ops (no matter if I use an app, and I tried several, or start this activity), it just takes me to the first page of the Settings screen (WiFi).
Although searching the web for a while, it seems no one who owns this Note is using the feature or not having the trouble with it.
Can someone confirm this problem or, even better, give me a solution for it?
Cheers

gisfmp said:
Hey there,
since a week I own a Note 10.1 2014ed with LTE. So far I didn't modify anything on it and run the stock -MJ2 firmware.
I want to restrict some apps of accessing what the don't need to access and since 4.3 supposedly has this rights control feature called "App Ops" already integrated, I checked how to use it... Google gives many links to descriptions how to open the feature, they are all the same: Either you use a launcher that can start "Activities" (like Nova launcher) or you install one of the many apps from Playstore which do the trick as well.
Here is what I found on the Note:
Whenever I start the App Ops (no matter if I use an app, and I tried several, or start this activity), it just takes me to the first page of the Settings screen (WiFi).
Although searching the web for a while, it seems no one who owns this Note is using the feature or not having the trouble with it.
Can someone confirm this problem or, even better, give me a solution for it?
Cheers
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I have that very same thing happen with something totally different. In wanam when I try to enable the flashlight from lock screen feature it takes me tu settings page nothing to do with camera flashlight or lock screen.....No idea I just gave up for now

Hmmm, no one interested?
I'm just wondering now if people don't care what their apps are accessing or if they use a third party program to make restrictions.
Any idea how to control apps will be welcome. If you use sth like LBE, please leave a reply.
Cheers

Hi there again.
Since there is no information available throughout the web concerning my question I was in contact with Samsung support about it. I thought it might be helpful for others what was replied.
They said that using the original Samsung Firmware, the feature cannot be used. They didn't specify whether it was completely removed from the system or only disabled so itcould possibly still work.
Since I am not a developer I didn't go into more detail there.
Now I hope that a custom ROM like Cyanogen will be available soon for the tablet.
Sent from my SM-P605 using xda app-developers app

I'm facing the exact same issues.
When following the windows opening when starting App Ops from e.g AppOpsX, a window titled "App Ops" opens quickly, then closes and ends up on the Settings screen. Same for flashlight.
My best guess was that Samsungs version of the Settings App blocks access in a way that they can only handle windows/panes that their app is capable of - would explain why it shows up just quickly and then closes.
I've been thinking that if I'd be able to flash the stock settings app, temporarily freeze the Samsung one and try App Ops - might work?

I have the same issue. My p605 is not rooted

Galaxy App Store won't install

I had downloaded the galaxy app store from the web and it worked fine. Since the lollipop update the galaxy app store had disappeared and when I tried to install the app it would say unable to install, any one else have this issue? Or a fix to get the galaxy app store?

So odd. Same issue. Not sure how to update my galaxy apps like snote and shealth

I may be wrong but I think we're being required to just wait for them to notify us about updates. There's a way to check for an update in S-Health settings but that's the only one I found.

You can access the Samsung Galaxy Apps Store via the widget Galaxy Essentials.
Search for SNote and SHealth/SHealth services and update.

Make sure you're using the TouchWiz launcher so you can access the Samsung widgets. S-Health can be updated within the app itself.
Look for the “check for updates" option in the settings menu.

mikeboucher21 said:
I had downloaded the galaxy app store from the web and it worked fine. Since the lollipop update the galaxy app store had disappeared and when I tried to install the app it would say unable to install, any one else have this issue? Or a fix to get the galaxy app store?
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Go to the APPS folder and hit the three dots (menu) in the upper right corner, you will find Galaxy Essentials there.

After doing more research I called a Samsung number for galaxy apps and found that this is a Verizon issue (aka Verizon blocked the full app store) but it seems to be resolved. They gave me a link to follow which worked to redownload and install successfully this time. The link is posted below for anyone who needs it:
http://apps.samsung.com/mars/mw/apk_en.as

Unlocked Bootloader Workaround

Hi,
Recently I have bought the Samsung Galaxy Watch and the problem is that the Galaxy Wearable app not available in my Play Store. After searching through the net, some advice from Reddit found that the culprit is my unlocked bootloader (probably the cause is the built-in Samsung Pay). With a little help from apkmirror, I have found a workaround for this issue and hope it helps someone have the same situation as me.
Step 1: Download Galaxy Wearable app at https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/samsung-gear/
Step 2 (important): Download Galaxy Watch Plugin https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/galaxy-watch-plugin/
After pairing the Galaxy Watch with the phone, the Galaxy Wearable app will automatically download Samsung Accessory Service app and finish the process. You're now good to go. Cheers
P/S: One down-side of this workaround is that you have to update these apps manually.

Anatasia said:
P/S: One down-side of this workaround is that you have to update these apps manually.
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As far as I know, most of the Samsung app can be updated if go to Settings->About screen. Wearable app is one of them.

venki5star said:
As far as I know, most of the Samsung app can be updated if go to Settings->About screen. Wearable app is one of them.
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That only opens the Play Store page for the app.

venki5star said:
As far as I know, most of the Samsung app can be updated if go to Settings->About screen. Wearable app is one of them.
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Nope, I have tried it. If you have an unlocked bootloader, only the Samsung Accessory Service can be updated. The other two aren't available on Play Store so it's a no-go

It's available to me, and I have unlocked my bootloader on my Moto G5+. This could be more specifically about passing Safetynet, though this is just a guess.

I've been looking all over for this, big thanks!

Samsung Pay
Any workaround to use Samsung Pay with Galaxy Watch while the bootloader of the phone is unlocked?
PS: Non-Samsung Phone, No root, Galaxy Watch LTE.

Hi,
I have a Mi Max 3 6gb/128gb Chinese phone with an unlocked bootloader and Global Rom.
It is MIUI version 10.3.5.0 and Android 9 PKQ1.181007.001.
I have bought a Galaxy Active Watch 2, and am confused slightly about the correct way to get this working.
Does installing the apps from apkmirror as stated above always work?
Is the problem that the unlocked bootloader stops the app from being downloaded from the play store, and thus if you get the app elsewhere it will work?
Or is the problem that the app itself detects the unlocked bootloader? OR, is it that it all works if you load from another source, but the Samsung Pay part (I don't care much about this) won't work?
I have read that the only way to do this is to relock the bootloader (don't want to do as my phone will apparently brick itself if I do an OTA update) or to root and install Magisk, which I don't really want to do.
Any help/clarifications appreciated,
Thanks so much.

Banking app crashes on RR

Hi, all -
I have a G7 Play (xt 1952-4) running Resurrection Remix 8.7.2.
When I use my banking app to cash a check, the banking app crashes immediately after taking the first picture. The screen goes black for a few seconds, then I am returned to the login screen.
I have another xt 1952-4 running stock android. The app works fine on there, no problem cashing checks.
I got the .apk for my RR phone from the stock android phone by using MyAppSharer from the play store and then bluetoothing the .apk to the RR phone.
Other than the crash described above, I have found no issues with the app on the RR phone.
Any ideas what I can do to resolve this? I'd go to my bank and ask them to fix the app, but I don't think they'll care about supporting a phone with a custom ROM on it...
Thanks much for any input!

Hey, all -
Just reaching out again to see if anyone has any words of wisdom on this.
Thanks!

What's *really* at stake if rooting an older Z2 Play phone?

Greetings All,
New to this community, running a Moto Z2 Play (albus), with stock Android 8, which was the last update available to me. Here we are 5 years later and the phone is still in amazing condition but I'm having trouble with the PlayStore telling me "this version isn't available for your device", and the older the phone gets the more apps I learn no longer support it. So I learned how to sideload apps (like Microsoft office, OneNote etc) but I figure that the writing is on the wall unless I upgrade Android.
After a quick google search I learn you can root your phone and there is an Android 11 image called Lineage OS 18.1 ... which sounds pretty sweet. BUT after additional searches, I'm reading so many cons about rooting a phone.
What's really at stake? I don't have any warrantee to void, I also figure if I brick the device I was probably going to buy a new phone sooner than later anyways.
Questions: If I install Lineage OS 18.1 successfully...
Will the Play Store and Apps continue to update, or will I stop receiving notifications regarding available updates? Or am I forever stuck with sideloading?
If I don't install G Apps is this bad? I don't use stock Google Apps, I've opted to use the Microsoft equivalent like Outlook for email and calendar... or do I still need to install Google Apps to gain the ability to layer Microsoft products on top?
Why is there so much negative talk about malware infection with rooted phones? If I'm not downloading and installing apps constantly, the risk would still be no more threatening than it is now correct?
I heard that Moto mods stop working, no biggie - I never used any of them anyways (I thought the included LCD Micro projector was cool, but ask me how many times I've actually used it = 0). While discussing moto stuff, would the gestures still work? I do like shake for camera, and the flip upside-down for silencing the ringer but I could learn to live without them.
Would the camera still work? Its probably the only real feature I use that I couldn't live without.
Are there any apps that would realize the phone is rooted and refuse to run? Some searches told me that security apps may not like a rooted phone. Does rooting it affect Microsoft Authenticator app?
I mean what's really at stake? My phone is fighting to be relevant for the few select apps I use (mostly Microsoft stuff) and I don't play games.
It looks like win-win, unless I'm missing something really important.
Thoughts?

Firs of all Flashing a rom doesn't actually count as root but some apps (will refuse to work) will detect an unlocked bootloader or something like that if you install the LineageOS rom

twmonahan said:
If I install Lineage OS 18.1 successfully...
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there is also Pixel Experience and Dot OS roms to flash (I already test both) so:
when it comes to Pixel Experience:​pros:​
Stock "clean" Rom
Android11 so your phone will have access to the apps you said refuse to work on Android8 also the phone will be detected as a Pixel 5 by Google Services.
all Google apps and support out of the box for basically everything you would normally use on a stock phone
somehow with this rom the apps wont/never detect any unlocked bootloader unless you install Magisk
unlock 64-bit and use all 4GB of RAM so it perform just better than stock rom with the same or even slightly better battery performance
MOTO MODS support
Google Camera support out of the Box
cons:​
there is basically no cons of using this rom unless you want to root it.​
somehow this rom is the most unestable when it comes to install magisk addons and slide load things cuz it can randomly brick/bootlop by just accessing to the custom recovery TWRP. Could also be a fault of my phone but I doubt it..​
​Dot OS:​
pros:​There is a GAPPS version of this rom and it basically has all the same pros as Pixel Experience​
this is by far the most customizable and beatiful rom when it comes to UI personalization​
​cons: and also the reason I avoid using it​
huge battery drain even on idle whithout GAPPS installed​

twmonahan said:
Questions: If I install Lineage OS 18.1 successfully...​
Will the Play Store and Apps continue to update, or will I stop receiving notifications regarding available updates? Or am I forever stuck with sideloading?
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That is the rom I actually use
Lineage OS wont have installed the Play Store/any Google Play Service/related app.., out of the box but
- you can actually slide load the pico opengapps package just after install the rom using TWRP so:​
you will have the same support and features of Google Play services that the Pixel Experience rom has (like streaming to a nearby device, gps auto location, sync accounts/passwords/contacts, find my device, updates notification, install new apps, etc), heck opengapps even add out of the box support for nfc payment
pico version of open gapps will just install the Play Store and no other Google app so LineageOS remains very stock and lightweight.

twmonahan said:
2. If I don't install G Apps is this bad? I don't use stock Google Apps, I've opted to use the Microsoft equivalent like Outlook for email and calendar... or do I still need to install Google Apps to gain the ability to layer Microsoft products on top?
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As I said you can install pico gapps which are a very lightweight version of Google Play services without compromising any feature the stock version has, also the battery drain of picogapps package is barely noticeable comparing it with stock gapps

twmonahan said:
3. Why is there so much negative talk about malware infection with rooted phones? If I'm not downloading and installing apps constantly, the risk would still be no more threatening than it is now correct?
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Magisk(is the only recommended method of rooting these days) is pretty safe, it even has a Github repository. As you said unless your a noob and dont even know what are you installing you can get infected even on a stock phone..

twmonahan said:
4. I heard that Moto mods stop working, no biggie - I never used any of them anyways (I thought the included LCD Micro projector was cool, but ask me how many times I've actually used it = 0). While discussing moto stuff, would the gestures still work? I do like shake for camera, and the flip upside-down for silencing the ringer but I could learn to live without them.
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Yes, gestures work, LineageOS have a menu just for Moto gestures.

twmonahan said:
5. Would the camera still work? Its probably the only real feature I use that I couldn't live without.
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Yes the camera will work normally, if you dont like the camera app LineageOS include you can always install the Gcam (support out of the box if you install opengapps)

twmonahan said:
6. Are there any apps that would realize the phone is rooted and refuse to run? Some searches told me that security apps may not like a rooted phone. Does rooting it affect Microsoft Authenticator app?
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Sadly Google Play services will detect LineageOS as a rooted rom even if you dont root it so any bank app, streaming apps like Netflix, CrunchyRoll, etc., won´t work.
Though Microsoft app will work even if you dont have gapps installed (except lite versions) and I think Microsoft apps dont detect root and even if they do you can easily bypass that by using Magisk deny list. As for Microsoft Au I confirmed it does not detect root

twmonahan said:
I mean what's really at stake? My phone is fighting to be relevant for the few select apps I use (mostly Microsoft stuff) and I don't play games.
It looks like win-win, unless I'm missing something really important.
Thoughts?
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Yes, is a win-win, specially because LineageOS have the best battery performance of the three roms I listed before and you can make it more efficiente by installing the Stratosphere addon for Magisk by CRANKV2