Related
Hi, I have doubts about the battery or need advices.
When I go to sleep at night and wake up in the morning (6 - 7 hours), the phone drains about 15 - 20%, is it normal?
When I go to sleep I put it in mid power saving, 80% brightness, wi fi and AoD activated, blue filter activated, auto brightness checkbox deactivated and in settings -> maintenance I erase RAM.
Even though, the battery lasts 36 hours or more.
Thanks in advance.
That's normal standby for most devices, though I don't really lose as much percentage overnight by just closing all apps before I go to bed and keeping the brightness low while leaving WiFi and Location Services on. I go to bed with 60% and wake up 7 hours later with around 50%, so maybe you're doing something wrong. But 15-20% overnight isn't really a big deal at all considering how fast this phone charges.; you get 20% back by charging for just 15 minutes. You'd really over ever notice a difference in standby time if you're coming from an iPhone which has the best standby time in the business, but this phone makes up for it just fine.
xHovercraft said:
That's normal standby for most devices, though I don't really lose as much percentage overnight by just closing all apps before I go to bed and keeping the brightness low while leaving WiFi and Location Services on. I go to bed with 60% and wake up 7 hours later with around 50%, so maybe you're doing something wrong. But 15-20% overnight isn't really a big deal at all considering how fast this phone charges.; you get 20% back by charging for just 15 minutes. You'd really over ever notice a difference in standby time if you're coming from an iPhone which has the best standby time in the business, but this phone makes up for it just fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see. In fact, last night it went from 60 to 51, so it depends on a lot of things.
Do you say I must change/add some other settings to improve the battery life?
Thanks a lot for your answer!
brutzza said:
I see. In fact, last night it went from 60 to 51, so it depends on a lot of things.
Do you say I must change/add some other settings to improve the battery life?
Thanks a lot for your answer!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I knew for sure that my battery life increased exponentially when the phone started dozing apps I didn't frequently use. The phone hibernates apps after 3-7 days of not being used, but you can put them to sleep yourself in Device Maintenance.
Advice
I lost just 1-5 at the night I stop AoD,and wifi if you use Facebook app or social media apps will drain battery faster than when using browser it's better.:good:
xHovercraft said:
I knew for sure that my battery life increased exponentially when the phone started dozing apps I didn't frequently use. The phone hibernates apps after 3-7 days of not being used, but you can put them to sleep yourself in Device Maintenance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where exactly do I put apps to sleep? Or may I force them to stop? (don't know if it is said like that, I have it in Spanish).
MSandMan said:
I lost just 1-5 at the night I stop AoD,and wifi if you use Facebook app or social media apps will drain battery faster than when using browser it's better.:good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only 1-5% ? Amazing. Yeah, but if you deactivate wifi, you won't get any notifications of anything during the night (if you think about it, you won't answer any because you are sleeping). Maybe I'll try that.
I don't use Facebook too much, but the browser version is a bit slower and not comfortable IMO.
The principal app that drains my battery is the PvZ2, though.
It will disconects wifi even when you turn it on... I lose abou 2 to 3 % night, but I dont see point of having device on during night so now I power it ofd
brutzza said:
Where exactly do I put apps to sleep? Or may I force them to stop? (don't know if it is said like that, I have it in Spanish).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Settings > Device Maintenance > Battery > Check the apps you don't frequently use and tap Save Power. If you choose to sleep Instagram, for example, you can still open it anytime later by just tapping the app, it'll just take an extra second to start which you won't even notice.
Pandotaz said:
It will disconects wifi even when you turn it on... I lose abou 2 to 3 % night, but I dont see point of having device on during night so now I power it ofd
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Instead of turning it off completely, you can also use the maximum power saving mode. Using that, I went to sleep with 97% and once I checked after waking up it was 96%.
I didn't measure the boot time of the device (not that I even care about it) but disabling the power saving mode might be a bit faster than turning the phone on.
Thanks all of you!
It is NOT normal for battery to drain 15-20% overnight.
Normal drain in that period would be 1-2% without AOD and 4-5% with AOD.
Battery wise A5 '17 have good one. I usually get about 7 hrs on SOT with medium ussage or 1.5 days ussage.
Hi everyone
hope this is a good place for this. I just bought a brand new P2 and yesterday I was doing some configuring for it and updated it to 7.0 (S244 stock). I did wipe it after all the updates according to instructions on this forums. Before going to sleep I charged it to 100%, unplugged the charger and left the phone with all connectivity (wifi, lte, bt, nfc etc.) turned off. I expected 2-5% battery drop but when I woke up in the morning it went down by 25% (!). Also my wallpaper changed to black colour(?). Something's definitely wrong What can I do about this?
Power manager shows the system as the main source of battery drain.
Another thing I noticed is that the video (YouTube, VLC) and alarm sounds are stuttered, there is like 0.5 sec lag every 10-15 secs...
Please someone tell me if this is normal and what can I do? Should I do factory reset once again or maybe flash the firmware? Can that help?
UPDATE:
I have found that the cause of the baterry drain problem is the CPU, it does not go to deep sleep at all and CPU-Z shows that it constantly jumps beetwen 652Mhz and 1401 or 1689Mhz on all 8 cores (even with no apps in the background and all connectivity turned off). Please have a look at my screenshots from GSam Battery Monitor:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vCVRlHbnKxWr8X1m1
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HwZqMuQFPHLK9C2D3
https://photos.app.goo.gl/eV8uRP3AZ4SARze03
Clearly something is wrong, any suggestions? Please guys tell me something.
Is nobody else experiencing this? Does no one have ANY suggestions for me whatsoever? I did a factory reset, phone is still losing 1-2% battery per hour with all connectivity and screen OFF. So basically it loses per hour what it should lose during whole night.
Are you on Nougat or Lollipop?
Can you post up the system battery stats from the phone.
Which apps have you installed?
Try these...
krzylew said:
Is nobody else experiencing this? Does no one have ANY suggestions for me whatsoever? I did a factory reset, phone is still losing 1-2% battery per hour with all connectivity and screen OFF. So basically it loses per hour what it should lose during whole night.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Obviously the deep sleep is not happening in your unit. Let's see what is the root of this problem:
1) Settings > WLAN > cog-wheel icon > Keep WLAN on during sleep = Never.
2) Settings > Power manager > Battery saver > On.
3) Settings > Data usage > Data saver > On. Ensure zero apps is allowed to use unrestricted data when Data Saver is on.
4) Charge the device till 100% (do it before bedtime).
5) Turn on Airplane mode.
6) See the per hour drain the next morning. It should be between 0.1% to 0.3% per hour in the GSam Battery Monitor app (assuming you slept for 8 hours).
If the above result is true, meaning, there is / are 3rd party apps that trigger the wake lock activity. But which app(s) to be blamed? Please list down the apps list for us to test in our unit.
@Treboeth, Nougat (s244) as I wrote in the first post. Battery stats after the night attached below.
@azeemzuhair Thank you for your input. Im going to describe what I did. Yesterday I did the factory reset, I didnt install ANY new applications (except for Alarmy but I needed it and phone was losing same amount of energy without it). So the only apps that drain the phone are the system apps themself. Before going to sleep I charged the device to 100%. As for points 1-3 from your post both WiFi and Data were OFF as well as bluetooth and NFC. I left it for the night with screen OFF. These are results after the night (SoT 1 min., standby 9 hours, 22% of battery gone, so that gives approximately 2% discharge rate per hour). This is clearly terrible. Any ideas what next?
krzylew said:
@Treboeth, Nougat (s244) as I wrote in the first post. Battery stats after the night attached below.
@azeemzuhair Thank you for your input. Im going to describe what I did. Yesterday I did the factory reset, I didnt install ANY new applications (except for Alarmy but I needed it and phone was losing same amount of energy without it). So the only apps that drain the phone are the system apps themself. Before going to sleep I charged the device to 100%. As for points 1-3 from your post both WiFi and Data were OFF as well as bluetooth and NFC. I left it for the night with screen OFF. These are results after the night (SoT 1 min., standby 9 hours, 22% of battery gone, so that gives approximately 2% discharge rate per hour). This is clearly terrible. Any ideas what next?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just turn on AIRPLANE mode for a night and let us know the result...
azeemzuhair said:
Just turn on AIRPLANE mode for a night and let us know the result...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, will do! Im also installing wakelock detector and gsam battery monitor right now so I will be able to provide data from them tomorrow in the morning.
Thank you for interest in my problem!
Airplane vs active SIM stand-by drain...
Airplane mode stand-by drain @ 0.1% per hour:
Single SIM Active mode stand-by drain @ 0.5% per hour:
Ok, so I left it in Airplane mode for the night and the discharge rate was 0.2%, that is some progress. After that I charged it to 100%, unplugged, disabled the Airplane mode and left it for 5 hours. Battery drain is due to SIM card and phone although they were not used and the signal was good. Everything can be seen in these screenshots:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cTlXphRgSivX7oe12
Any ideas?
krzylew said:
Ok, so I left it in Airplane mode for the night and the discharge rate was 0.2%, that is some progress. After that I charged it to 100%, unplugged, disabled the Airplane mode and left it for 5 hours. Battery drain is due to SIM card and phone although they were not used and the signal was good. Everything can be seen in these screenshots:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cTlXphRgSivX7oe12
Any ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i am also facing these issues
battery drain is due to simcard
someone said poor signal connection in my area is the reason
btw which operator are you using?
if you found any solutions please do share:angel::cyclops:
The Alarmy app is the root of the problem...
krzylew said:
Ok, so I left it in Airplane mode for the night and the discharge rate was 0.2%, that is some progress. After that I charged it to 100%, unplugged, disabled the Airplane mode and left it for 5 hours. Battery drain is due to SIM card and phone although they were not used and the signal was good. Everything can be seen in these screenshots:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cTlXphRgSivX7oe12
Any ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My hypothesis is that the "Alarmy" app caused the wakelock. By judging at the Airplane mode, Alarmy still wakes the "CPU". You may try to uninstall it and monitor the energy consumption for the next 3 days...
azeemzuhair said:
My hypothesis is that the "Alarmy" app caused the wakelock. By judging at the Airplane mode, Alarmy still wakes the "CPU". You may try to uninstall it and monitor the energy consumption for the next 3 days...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Alarmy is not the problem, take a look at screenshots from today's morning:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tOCJYmRNJOdSgVi23
The problem is SIM card and "Phone" but the reception in my area is exceptional as can be seen from one of the screenshots.
Network reset...
krzylew said:
Alarmy is not the problem, take a look at screenshots from today's morning:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tOCJYmRNJOdSgVi23
The problem is SIM card and "Phone" but the reception in my area is exceptional as can be seen from one of the screenshots.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try "Network Reset"
Still the same? Wipe cache partition in the stock Lenovo Recovery.
Finally, hard reset is the last resort.
Thank your for your reply. Removing SD card fixed the SIM management drain but the "Phone Services" still drain the battery. I did the network settings reset and will see if it helps. As for cache wipe and factory reset I'd like to remind that the whole troubleshooting process started with factory reset so I dont know if that can help.
Screenshots from today morning:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WjKu2bi3XeSAQYXj1
I decided to return this chinese crap, took Samsung instead, no battery drain so far. Thank your for your help!
I'm a really light user. I lost a little less than 2% every hour. Basically I use it as a purely communication device. Mostly check facebook messenger, my emails, and occasionally, browse facebook, reddit, 9gag or watch a short youtube video. I stay up about 16 hours on average and at the end of the day, I was regularly around 80%. If I left the phone unplugged overnight while I slept, I only lose about 6% over 8 hours. I was really happy with the battery life. I could very easily see 3 full days out of my phone off a single charge. This was before the Pie update. I tried both the Beta and the Stable once it released, and my battery life has suffered severely. I'm losing 6% every hour, even with the screen off the entire time. At the end of the day, my phone is in the red and has already turned on power saving mode. Android Pie has killed my Pixel 2 XL's battery. I gave it 2 weeks to "learn" my usage habits, but ultimately, I factory reset and even went back to 8.1, but I still suffer from battery issues. Battery usage gives no hint to the culprit. My phone has been unplugged for 7 hours, with 45 minutes of screen on time, and at 54% remaining battery life. Screen On time is the highest battery drain according to the system battery stats. I didn't have this issue until I installed Android Pie Stable.
I have no idea what could be going on, but could really use some help with this.
TL;DR: From 2% to 6% per hour battery drain on Pie. Reverted to Oreo and FR but still an issue. Advice?
Did you check if the WiFi scanning is turned ON? Settings --> Location --> Scanning
I feel its the only issue, nothing should drain your P2XL crazy if apps remaining constant factory reset.
-- personal experience.
I also use it very similarly to you and easily get 2 days with a single charge on Pie. During night my device drains 1 or 2 % only (wi-fi, bluetooth and 4g on), but I have wi-fi scanning off. Google location services are on (including Location Accuracy on). "At a Glance" is turned off but still using stock Pixel Launcher. No hacks/mods installed.
Same except I have at a glance enabled. I disable it 6 hours ago to test and didn't affect battery drain at all. Still losing 6% every hour. Location and scanning settings default except connect to open WiFi is enabled. Right now testing if connect to open WiFi and Bluetooth WiFi location improvement affecting battery drain.
Testing that now. Will report in a day. Heading to bed now. Gn
Does the phone charge all the way to 100%? Does the phone ever turn off by itself when low on battery ~10%? Install and run Accubattery. After a few charging cycles you will get a very close approximation of your battery's remaining capacity as compared with new in mAh. Battery capacity will be located under the health tab. The more charge cycles you monitor, the more accurate it gets, but it will zero in on a number pretty quickly after the first 2-3 charges. Could be the battery... stranger things have happened. This also assumes the user has fully wiped the phone several times going between DP's, Pie and reverting to Oreo.
Does the phone charge all the way to 100%?
- Yes
Does the phone ever turn off by itself when low on battery ~10%?
- Honestly, I don't know. I never let my battery get that low.
Install and run Accubattery. After a few charging cycles you will get a very close approximation of your battery's remaining capacity as compared with new in mAh. Battery capacity will be located under the health tab. The more charge cycles you monitor, the more accurate it gets, but it will zero in on a number pretty quickly after the first 2-3 charges. Could be the battery... stranger things have happened.
- Will do
This also assumes the user has fully wiped the phone several times going between DP's, Pie and reverting to Oreo.
- You assume correctly.
Didn't seem to help.
Didn't seem to help at all.
Video of battery stats and settings.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=164lujTgzt6hihESdFlkb0AdQdOFGiYtX
I changed some settings and now I'm getting 17mAh drain. Fixed.
The biggest battery sucker for me was having Auto-connect to open wifi enabled and fixing stuck sync tasks. It was preventing my phone from sleeping.
Great to know you were able to stop the draining, I think it might be of great help to other P2XL owners to know what were the settings you changed that fixed the issue.
What settings did you change?
I am having the same issue. I would be interested in hearing your changes as well. Thank you
Download and install Accubattery to monitor your mAh usage. Make sure you check your deep sleep percentage. By the sound of things, your phone is running hot when idle, so it's not sleeping like it should be. You can install Wakelock Detector Lite to see which apps are keeping your phone awake. Once you find out what apps are draining your battery, use the System battery manager in Settings to restrict battery usage for those apps. If that doesn't help, then uninstall the app (unless it is necessary to you). If an app isn't keeping your phone awake, then it may be your system settings. Turn off location scanning for wifi and bluetooth (in the GPS section). Turn off Wifi auto-connect to open wifi. Where I live I have pretty weak cellular connection. I opted to disable Mobile data always active in developer options (Go to about phone, and tap the build number 7 times, then enter your device password). While you are here, you can check Running services in developer options and see what you have running. Also, make sure your accounts aren't stuck trying to sync. If they are, cancel the sync and restart it. Depending on how far you are backlogged, this can take a while. If the sync still gets stuck, try removing and re-adding the account that is getting stuck.
After I restricted/uninstalled the misbehaving applications and tuned the device settings, I'm getting great standby time on my Pixel 2 XL. If I close all my apps before putting the phone back in my pocket, according to accubattery, I'm losing 15mA/h or about 0.4%/h. If I charged my phone to 100%, then unplugged it without using it at all, it would take 10 days for the battery to run out. It's pretty good. As someone who primarily uses their phone as a communication device and research tool, I'm a pretty lightweight user.
+1 What settings did you change?
Yes, please, don't keep us in suspense!
Just got a used one so trying to learn all about getting optimum performance.
Hey guys have been having pretty bad battery drain from my new S20 4g Exynos. My old S9+ has better battery life than this.
I have installed GSam and it seems apps are using ~95% of my battery in basically 100% standby. The largest is com.samsung.android.app.aodservice which is the always on display. I have already turned off all AoD services as well as the fingerprint icon when screen is off. Despite doing all this I can still put my finger on the screen after the phone has been locked and it unlocks with my fingerprint. Is there another setting I am missing to turn off, is it even configurable? Or am I having some sort of glitch?
9GAG as well was using lots of battery even if I had it in deep sleep and never even opened it after a reboot, so I have uninstalled that for now.
Looks like a glitch, either disable the service or wipe the phone.
I'm assuming the battery usage is the glitch you are referring to. If I disable the service and re-enable would that fix it you think? Our I would need to reset? I spent like a week getting this all setup already.
Also for the unlock without turning the screen on or waking, is that normal behaviour for everyone else or is it a setting/glitch?
knobbs said:
Hey guys have been having pretty bad battery drain from my new S20 4g Exynos. My old S9+ has better battery life than this.
I have installed GSam and it seems apps are using ~95% of my battery in basically 100% standby. The largest is com.samsung.android.app.aodservice which is the always on display. I have already turned off all AoD services as well as the fingerprint icon when screen is off. Despite doing all this I can still put my finger on the screen after the phone has been locked and it unlocks with my fingerprint. Is there another setting I am missing to turn off, is it even configurable? Or am I having some sort of glitch?
9GAG as well was using lots of battery even if I had it in deep sleep and never even opened it after a reboot, so I have uninstalled that for now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am having the same readings from gsam. But Samsung battery stats say AOD used 3% battery. Not sure which is wrong
mariushm said:
I am having the same readings from gsam. But Samsung battery stats say AOD used 3% battery. Not sure which is wrong
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How to make gsam show app usage for me it shows only combined cpu app usage when i want to show app usage.
knobbs said:
Hey guys have been having pretty bad battery drain from my new S20 4g Exynos. My old S9+ has better battery life than this.
I have installed GSam and it seems apps are using ~95% of my battery in basically 100% standby. The largest is com.samsung.android.app.aodservice which is the always on display. I have already turned off all AoD services as well as the fingerprint icon when screen is off. Despite doing all this I can still put my finger on the screen after the phone has been locked and it unlocks with my fingerprint. Is there another setting I am missing to turn off, is it even configurable? Or am I having some sort of glitch?
9GAG as well was using lots of battery even if I had it in deep sleep and never even opened it after a reboot, so I have uninstalled that for now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Consider setting GSam to record battery usage since full charged instead since last unpluged it's better.Because you get real usage and screen on time for only that 100% of battery.
Zixi said:
How to make gsam show app usage for me it shows only combined cpu app usage when i want to show app usage.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Enable more stats" in gsam.
There is description how to enable it.
It is not aod that is draining the battery, I've got the same issue, I uninstalled AOD using ADB it didn't change anything
mariushm said:
I am having the same readings from gsam. But Samsung battery stats say AOD used 3% battery. Not sure which is wrong
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have AoD enabled though? I have everything turned off and it is still chugging my battery
Package Disabler Pro, disable the service, no root needed either
So as an updated I disabled all AoD things with CCWSE and AoD is still chewing battery in the background as well as CCWSE now.... sigh
knobbs said:
So as an updated I disabled all AoD things with CCWSE and AoD is still chewing battery in the background as well as CCWSE now.... sigh
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is bizarre. Re-enable AOD in CCSWE, then use CCSWE to wipe AOD data (tap AOD icon, look at bottom of screen and tap "Wipe data") and disable AOD again. Restart phone and leave it alone for a few minutes to let GSam battery collect data. Open GSam battery, tap the triangle/delta icon at the bottom of screen, choose "Since screen off" and see if AOD/CCSWE is still consuming battery.
So I did a factory reset and same thing happening even, without installing anything but GSAM and giving it permission. Turning off all AoD options didn't do anything. However when enabling power saving and ticking the option to turn off AoD it seems to be dropping the battery use from the service like crazy. Will need a few days of testing to see if this can fix the problem. However leaving in battery saving means I can't enjoy anything above 60hz refresh.
I noticed AOD consuming more battery following ADT1 update. I've never used AOD and it was always low on the GSam battery monitor list. But now it is #4 on the list, using 4% battery even when "disabled".
sublimaze said:
I noticed AOD consuming more battery following ADT1 update. I've never used AOD and it was always low on the GSam battery monitor list. But now it is #4 on the list, using 4% battery even when "disabled".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm still on ATD3 and have between 1.2-1.7% on Gsam, depending on how much notification i get .... using "Tap to show" on AOD along with aodNoti..app...
S20U-Exynos
knobbs said:
Hey guys have been having pretty bad battery drain from my new S20 4g Exynos. My old S9+ has better battery life than this.
I have installed GSam and it seems apps are using ~95% of my battery in basically 100% standby. The largest is com.samsung.android.app.aodservice which is the always on display. I have already turned off all AoD services as well as the fingerprint icon when screen is off. Despite doing all this I can still put my finger on the screen after the phone has been locked and it unlocks with my fingerprint. Is there another setting I am missing to turn off, is it even configurable? Or am I having some sort of glitch?
9GAG as well was using lots of battery even if I had it in deep sleep and never even opened it after a reboot, so I have uninstalled that for now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Main AOD service can not be disabled. There is no option to disable. This problem is related to fingerprint tracker while the phone is in standby. It's always on because you maybe need to unlock the phone any time. If you disable online fingerprint scanner (com.samsung.android.app.aodservice) then you loose fingerprint scanner while the phone is in standbye. So you should first wake on your phone from standby (by double tab the screen or push the power key) then put your finger on fingerprint scanner.
To disable AOD, Just Enable USB debugging mode then enter command:
adb shell pm disable-user com.samsung.android.app.aodservice
note: If you got successful you should receive (Package com.samsung.android.app.aodservice new state: disabled-user)
That's all.
I recently bought this phone, I updated everything system, apps......the camera keeps running the background, even when I have closed the app.....
Problems does go away if I clear data of camera app...but I don't want to do this everytime.......I bought the same phone for my mum, and same thing is happening there too, on top of that in her phone chrome is consuming a lot of battery even when the phone is idle...... please help me out
Also I did try that restrict background activity but that option did nothing and the time on "while in background" kept on increasing
P.S location was off.
Never happened this problem to my European LG G7 Thinq (LMG710EM).
Anyway you have to turn off "background activity flag" to stop background activities of any app (do it for each app).
But consider also that the 7% of battery may be consumed just in that 11 minutes.
Shooting photo consumes a lot of battery...
After a week I have figured that you need to compromise on 2 features to get a good battery life ......1st obvious one was always on display, after disabling that, battery life increased a lot, but my idle battery drain was still 1-2 % per hour with wifi turned off.......2nd I disabled the double tap to wake (knock on) and hallelujah! Now on idle it barely drains 1-2% overnight.....
This is a great phone but lacks in the battery department...I mean, I don't mind disabling aod but double tap to wake is a great feature to have...too bad it drains the battery like hell