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As above. Plus the advantages and disadvantages of unlocking z1 compact bootloader.
If you want to flash for example custom kernels you will need to unlock it. Some actions just require an unlocked BL.
Disadvantege is that you COULD have issues when sending it in for repair when you messed up the software.
But when you are careful and backup everything you can always restore it. You can also relock it if necessary (backup TA partition!)
I always unlock the bootloaders on my devices and never had any problems.
But its up to you.
I agree. It just depends on your goal.. If you just want a solid setup with trusty performance that you can use daily for a long time, and sync your emails, social sites, financial, etc., then you're probably best off leaving it alone. If you're into customization and trying new things, it's worth it. From what I've read, the only things you lose are the official support issues mentioned above, and some kind of camera functionality that I'm not real clear about. But, there's a lot of development for this phone, and the unofficial support here is likely better than any official support, and you can probably find a solution here for anything you lose.
Thank you so much for your responses .Though I dediced to unlock it anyway. I want to try other kernels .
I have UB, my answer is no, unlock bootloader when you want to try Android 6.0.
Well. For me I decided not to unlock. More than experimenting I need stable working phone, on all areas. Especially Wi-Fi. And I have not time to play every evening with flashing and reflashing.
Stock stuff is not that bad if tuned.
Android 6 may be flashed on locked BL as far as I know.
Hi, I am also wondering if I should unlock my bootloader. Anyway, camera futures are very important for me and I am curious if I will loose for example noise cancelling. I've seen the thread about DRM functions restoration but does it work with CM based roms?
Maciek602 said:
Hi, I am also wondering if I should unlock my bootloader. Anyway, camera futures are very important for me and I am curious if I will loose for example noise cancelling. I've seen the thread about DRM functions restoration but does it work with CM based roms?
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Flat answer : No! 1. Either remain on Sony stock roms or 2. Say goodbye to your camera!
Maciek602 said:
Hi, I am also wondering if I should unlock my bootloader. Anyway, camera futures are very important for me and I am curious if I will loose for example noise cancelling. I've seen the thread about DRM functions restoration but does it work with CM based roms?
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Good thing, you will not lose camera features if you use modded stock camera and noise cancelling will not gone(even in stock). The only thing that i see that u will lose are bravia engine though i glad that is gone(i need color accuracy). though all of it are included and usable even in UB like mxrom(best lp rom i have ever tried)
Good morning All,
I am so new to Sony. Saw this method while searching. any of you been used and success??? thank you
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/07/root-sony-xperia-z5-premium-e6853-60.html
ongxa said:
Good morning All,
I am so new to Sony. Saw this method while searching. any of you been used and success??? thank you
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/07/root-sony-xperia-z5-premium-e6853-60.html
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Try it out and let us know.
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DON'T DO IT! Be careful.
From what I can see, they want you to unlock your bootloader, which is nothing special and the preferred (only one) root method, mentioned here...
You should think about backing up your DRM-Keys first by using this method
the_brad said:
DON'T DO IT! Be careful.
From what I can see, they want you to unlock your bootloader, which is nothing special and the preferred (only one) root method, mentioned here...
You should think about backing up your DRM-Keys first by using this method
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thank you for your reply, bro.
Funny, how people are looking to root their device but re-think about rooting it. Don't even think of rooting your phone if you're unsure about what you're doing. Might as well just buy an iPhone and forget about modding your phone to its full potential.
Seriously, I don't even give a damn about warranty and DRM keys. I bought the phone, and it's mine. I should have full control over it and modify it as I want, say unlock the bootloader or whatever it is, hey it's my money well spent why should I care less... The only problem that will come in is when you put your Z5 premium dual into water and it starts to evaporate on your camera lense then you should send it to Sony for warranty or just send to any mobile phone shop and spend some money. Come on the moment your warranty is over, your phone will become obsolete, Z7 will come in hand.
Edit: Anyway, enough random rant. If you still wanna root your phone check this out for the DUAL variant... http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/complete-noob-friendly-guide-to-t3426220
ongxa said:
Good morning All,
I am so new to Sony. Saw this method while searching. any of you been used and success??? thank you
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/07/root-sony-xperia-z5-premium-e6853-60.html
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before rooting please tell what is your Z5p
1. version E6xxx
2. what is your stock build number (last three digits) .170 ?
3. do u know rooting? and its risks and its privileges ?
now,
if you are having SONY z5 (z5p) (any variant) with LOLLYPOP rom ( sony version ending with .170 )
there is simple way to
1. ROOT
2. and backup your DRM KEYS
kingroot can root androild 5.1.1 (32.0.A.6.170) (many says kingroot is unsafe and it takes device info to china servers) ( so they might be true)
once you have ROOTED 5.1.1 ,
download this https://github.com/DevShaft/Backup-TA/archive/v9.11.zip and take your DRM KEYS BACKUP
READ INSTRUCTIONS at
https://github.com/DevShaft/Backup-TA/releases
once backup is taken, just download and flash kernel for your variant from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/32-1-1-185-stock-modified-kernel-t3355369
YasuHamed said:
before rooting please tell what is your Z5p
if you are having SONY z5 (z5p) (any variant) with LOLLYPOP rom ( sony version ending with .170 )
there is simple way to
1. ROOT
2. and backup your DRM KEYS
kingroot can root androild 5.1.1 (32.0.A.6.170) (many says kingroot is unsafe and it takes device info to china servers) ( so they might be true)
once you have ROOTED 5.1.1 ,
download this https://github.com/DevShaft/Backup-TA/archive/v9.11.zip and take your DRM KEYS BACKUP
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I have a Z5P, but it's running Marshmallow (6.0.1) - is it possible to root it?
And is it possible to root it without losing all my settings and resetting everything to factory defaults?
Also, why are the DRM key backup important? What do I need them for?
Model: E6853
Version: 32.2.A.0.253
englen said:
I have a Z5P, but it's running Marshmallow (6.0.1) - is it possible to root it?
And is it possible to root it without losing all my settings and resetting everything to factory defaults?
Also, why are the DRM key backup important? What do I need them for?
Model: E6853
Version: 32.2.A.0.253
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Q. is it possible to root z5p on 6.0.1?
A. YESSS
Q. without loosing settings data?
A. NO
Q. why?
A. because rooting z5p running on 6.0.1 / kernel 3.1x; require unlocking bootloader. and the momment u unlock you boot loader (a) your internal storage / TA Partitions gets Wiped (b) and you looks your DRM keys / FIDO Keys
Q. why do u need DRM keys?
A. frankly , have rooted fone, and i never had chance to save my keys! because you can only save yoru keys on LP kernel! and MM kerna don't have workaround! , i have kernel having DRM stimulation fixed so X-reality and camera 4k feature works fine.
DRM keys are Digital rights managment keys comes in play when Sony software running in xperia validate themselve and runs with full features!. modified kernal has drm stimulant installed so kernel still report these setting/software that keys are there (even when they arent)
Fido keys are required by Google authentication login.
having drm keys / fido keys/ backup is a PLUS point!, if you don't have . then still for me no biggy!
YasuHamed said:
Q. why do u need DRM keys?
A. frankly , have rooted fone, and i never had chance to save my keys! because you can only save yoru keys on LP kernel! and MM kerna don't have workaround! , i have kernel having DRM stimulation fixed so X-reality and camera 4k feature works fine.
DRM keys are Digital rights managment keys comes in play when Sony software running in xperia validate themselve and runs with full features!. modified kernal has drm stimulant installed so kernel still report these setting/software that keys are there (even when they arent)
Fido keys are required by Google authentication login.
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So it won't be possible to root and run the original ROM? I guess that means I miss out on future OTA updates :-/
Seems like a lot of hassle for little gain :-/
Also it seems I probably won't choose Sony again, I feel that when I pay good money for a phone, I should be able to use it as I please. And Sony is actively trying to stop me from doing that.
ongxa said:
Good morning All,
I am so new to Sony. Saw this method while searching. any of you been used and success??? thank you
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/07/root-sony-xperia-z5-premium-e6853-60.html
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the process is similar
flashing modified kernel!
i recommend using STOCK MODIFIED kernel
I ROOTED my PHONE (z5p) and i shared my personal experience STEP BY STEP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-...ting-xperia-z5-z5p-variants-drm-keys-t3437902
---------- Post added at 07:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:19 AM ----------
ongxa said:
Good morning All,
I am so new to Sony. Saw this method while searching. any of you been used and success??? thank you
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/07/root-sony-xperia-z5-premium-e6853-60.html
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Click to collapse
englen said:
So it won't be possible to root and run the original ROM? I guess that means I miss out on future OTA updates :-/
Seems like a lot of hassle for little gain :-/
Also it seems I probably won't choose Sony again, I feel that when I pay good money for a phone, I should be able to use it as I please. And Sony is actively trying to stop me from doing that.
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it is Original Rom, just kernel is MODIFIED to give you root access.
- sony OTA don't check your root access it only refer to unlock/lock boot loader and push OTA. if you RELOCK your bootloader by (flashTOOL)
http://www.flashtool.net/downloads.php , your device will get OTA.
- remember after any major system OTA your root access will be gone
- All major devices Samsung / HTC / LG / SONY / Huawai has extra securities enabled from Android 6x.x making hard to break and gain root access.
- Oneplus3 , Xiomi phones and others have one click root enable feature (from developer options)
- but yes i agree, Sony went one step ahead with DRM keys. feels like making deal with devil in order to have root access. breaking sony devices is Pain in the XXXX
- I prefer rooted phones as they give you freedom to control your ram and remove bloatware.
- I also prefer xperias because they are more reliable and once rooted they get even better!
- i have rooted x5p and works like a charm (6.01 / .253)
z5p modified STOCK kernels can be found at (version .253) https://mega.nz/#F!KwZhjLIK!uNbDzR6lCXMaaW7jKFS1WQ!vogFiYiL (respects to @KbaB.BroS
how to root? my experience, how i did it? please read http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-...ting-xperia-z5-z5p-variants-drm-keys-t3437902
cglegion said:
Funny, how people are looking to root their device but re-think about rooting it. Don't even think of rooting your phone if you're unsure about what you're doing. Might as well just buy an iPhone and forget about modding your phone to its full potential.
Seriously, I don't even give a damn about warranty and DRM keys. I bought the phone, and it's mine. I should have full control over it and modify it as I want, say unlock the bootloader or whatever it is, hey it's my money well spent why should I care less... The only problem that will come in is when you put your Z5 premium dual into water and it starts to evaporate on your camera lense then you should send it to Sony for warranty or just send to any mobile phone shop and spend some money. Come on the moment your warranty is over, your phone will become obsolete, Z7 will come in hand.
Edit: Anyway, enough random rant. If you still wanna root your phone check this out for the DUAL variant... http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/complete-noob-friendly-guide-to-t3426220
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people have misconception about devices! many of my literate/ job holding friends thinks that Android is Samsung galaxy / note series ONLY! , for them if galaxy s6 is failing, S7's battery is xploding then its a failure of ANDROID!
for such people , YES i agree they shouldn't try tasting the custom cooked modded Android! , better buy iphone / lumia !
I agree with you! I bought sony , its expensive as compare to other devices! , I should hold BETTER control over my hardware than sony! its my hardware now! and i will take care of it! i know i can take care of it
... coming from proud user of 5 xperia devices (all rooted/ modded )
YasuHamed said:
Q. is it possible to root z5p on 6.0.1?
A. YESSS
Q. without loosing settings data?
A. NO
Q. why?
A. because rooting z5p running on 6.0.1 / kernel 3.1x; require unlocking bootloader. and the momment u unlock you boot loader (a) your internal storage / TA Partitions gets Wiped (b) and you looks your DRM keys / FIDO Keys
Q. why do u need DRM keys?
A. frankly , have rooted fone, and i never had chance to save my keys! because you can only save yoru keys on LP kernel! and MM kerna don't have workaround! , i have kernel having DRM stimulation fixed so X-reality and camera 4k feature works fine.
DRM keys are Digital rights managment keys comes in play when Sony software running in xperia validate themselve and runs with full features!. modified kernal has drm stimulant installed so kernel still report these setting/software that keys are there (even when they arent)
Fido keys are required by Google authentication login.
having drm keys / fido keys/ backup is a PLUS point!, if you don't have . then still for me no biggy!
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Dear,
thanks, just to clarify: I've the Dual SIM Edition (Emirates) with 6.0.1: there is no way to have a direct rooting? I have to proceed with the downgrade first?
Regards,
sev7en said:
Dear,
thanks, just to clarify: I've the Dual SIM Edition (Emirates) with 6.0.1: there is no way to have a direct rooting? I have to proceed with the downgrade first?
Regards,
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if you don't wana backup your drm keys, no need to downgrade just flash kernel
YasuHamed said:
if you don't wana backup your drm keys, no need to downgrade just flash kernel
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Thank you, as I remember, when rooted the SONY devices lose / lack of feature as for quality of the camera. Did we have any side effect now?
sev7en said:
Thank you, as I remember, when rooted the SONY devices lose / lack of feature as for quality of the camera. Did we have any side effect now?
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i have rooted z5p, the modified kernals have DRM KEYS STIMULATION
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-...ting-xperia-z5-z5p-variants-drm-keys-t3437902
i never had chance to backup my keys!
it works fine with me
Hey XDA'rs,
I have a couple questions. I recently (today) bought the Sony Xperia Z5 unlocked Dual International Version with no warranty.
1: Where is the most updated root for this phone? And. Should I upgrade to nougat before rooting?
2: what is currently the best and most stable rom for the z5 premium?
3: any experience with VR and this phone? And anyone use daydream vr headset with it? I know you can trick the headset into allowing the z5 premium. Just curious if anyone had any experiences with vr on it good or bad
4: how do you like the device now and what do you dislike? Please tell me how long you owned it.
5: how water(resistant) is the xperia z5 premium. Can I take it in the pool, shower, or wash it off under a facet?
AustinK said:
Hey XDA'rs,
I have a couple questions. I recently (today) bought the Sony Xperia Z5 unlocked Dual International Version with no warranty.
1: Where is the most updated root for this phone? And. Should I upgrade to nougat before rooting?
2: what is currently the best and most stable rom for the z5 premium?
3: any experience with VR and this phone? And anyone use daydream vr headset with it? I know you can trick the headset into allowing the z5 premium. Just curious if anyone had any experiences with vr on it good or bad
4: how do you like the device now and what do you dislike? Please tell me how long you owned it.
5: how water(resistant) is the xperia z5 premium. Can I take it in the pool, shower, or wash it off under a facet?
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1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5...ting-xperia-z5-z5p-variants-drm-keys-t3437902
2. try this page dont have root so you can try different roms since you will root your phone https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/development
3.https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/z5-premium-vr-entertainment-device-t3467838
4. will not replace almost 2 years. got it from pre-order
5. yes done this several times.
AustinK said:
Hey XDA'rs,
I have a couple questions. I recently (today) bought the Sony Xperia Z5 unlocked Dual International Version with no warranty.
1: Where is the most updated root for this phone? And. Should I upgrade to nougat before rooting?
----------- on android 7.00 - 32.3.A.2.33 -1-april-2017 is the most update rom / about upgrade and root, Nested Thread can be seen at https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71690027#post71690027
2: what is currently the best and most stable rom for the z5 premium?
------- In my experience - 32.2.A.5.11 on android 6.01 - DEC2016 was the best rom so far. battery very stable)
3: any experience with VR and this phone? And anyone use daydream vr headset with it? I know you can trick the headset into allowing the z5 premium. Just curious if anyone had any experiences with vr on it good or bad
---- pass
4: how do you like the device now and what do you dislike? Please tell me how long you owned it.
---- even as a die hard xperia Fan, i give z5p 7/10 ---- its been 1 year since i am using this device. plz note that z5p is my 6th device so my judgement is based on previous devices/rom/hardware/screen color viewing agles/ heat while watching movies+charging
5: how water(resistant) is the xperia z5 premium. Can I take it in the pool, shower, or wash it off under a facet?
----- I never did hard water test with my z5p since i love the device! but yes i have cleaned it under running tap water, couple of times and the device was ok
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if you plan to ROOT your z5p ,,, this means you must unlock the boot loader and you will loose the drm keys!
before upgrading to 7.0 , while device is on android 6 use DIRTYCOW Sript xploit to extract and backup DRMKEYS/TAbackup
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/universal-dirtycow-based-ta-backup-t3514236
once your have the gem keys! you can do what ever you want! but plz don't unlock you device before having drmkeys backup!
----- dirtycow don't work on android 7
YasuHamed said:
if you plan to ROOT your z5p ,,, this means you must unlock the boot loader and you will loose the drm keys!
before upgrading to 7.0 , while device is on android 6 use DIRTYCOW Sript xploit to extract and backup DRMKEYS/TAbackup
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/universal-dirtycow-based-ta-backup-t3514236
once your have the gem keys! you can do what ever you want! but plz don't unlock you device before having drmkeys backup!
----- dirtycow don't work on android 7
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What are drm keys and why are they important?
And should I root then OTA to nougat 7.0 or should I nougat 7.0 then root?
Will it stay rooted if I OTA update or will it remove flash?
Sorry, I come from Samsung devices with one-click rooting so I'm a noob otherwise
AustinK said:
What are drm keys and why are they important?
And should I root then OTA to nougat 7.0 or should I nougat 7.0 then root?
Will it stay rooted if I OTA update or will it remove flash?
Sorry, I come from Samsung devices with one-click rooting so I'm a noob otherwise
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I come from Samsung devices with one-click rooting :P [/B]
Say no more sir.
I can understand your questions!
Sony in way more sophisticated crafted phones both on hardware and stockrom level!
inshort
1. DRM KEY (Digital Rights Management Keys) are stored in special partitions called TRIM AREA (TA). these keys are required for some SONY proprietary software to work FULLY. 4k Recording in Camera, BRAVIA and X-REALITY Engines, enhance photo features while clicking photographs. if these keys are lost, it will affect the performance of the device
2. whenever you update your device, rooting gets voide so root after OTA
3. since your bootloader is locked , actually you canot ROOT your device! you can only flash stockrom! . or downgrade to android 6.01, extract drm keys via DIRTYCOW script and then unlock bootloader, upgrade to android 7.0 (N) and then root it!
in my xperience! the time taken by me to root 3 different samsung phones was equivalent in Rooting one Z5p :s
rooting sony is very tricky!
Hi. I recently bought RN5 AI and I am pretty happy with what I have for this price range, I am happy with MIUI 10 but I feel that I like the stock Android experience better, so I have some questions regarding this :
1- if someday I want to sell the device and lock the bootloader again, will it show on the bootloader status as locked or RELOCKED?
2- does the latest magisk work on MIUI 10? And does Xposed work as well?
3- do custom ROMs in general feel smoother than MIUI 10? And is multitasking better overall?
4- What is the main disadvantage? and what should I look for when I unlock the bootloader?
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Thanks a lot in advance, I hope I can get all the answers I need from you guys, this forum is the only place I can find those answers.
Dr.TheMaster said:
Hi. I recently bought RN5 AI and I am pretty happy with what I have for this price range, I am happy with MIUI 10 but I feel that I like the stock Android experience better, so I have some questions regarding this :
1- if someday I want to sell the device and lock the bootloader again, will it show on the bootloader status as locked or RELOCKED?
2- does the latest magisk work on MIUI 10? And does Xposed work as well?
3- do custom ROMs in general feel smoother than MIUI 10? And is multitasking better overall?
4- What is the main disadvantage? and what should I look for when I unlock the bootloader?
.
Thanks a lot in advance, I hope I can get all the answers I need from you guys, this forum is the only place I can find those answers.
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1. EDL flashing via MiFlash has "CLEAN all and LOCK" button which flashes ROM and LOCK B/L but only authorized ACCOUNTS can do EDL flashing and bad news is in order to enter into EDL mode, two points on motherboard required to be touched by wire/metal and simultaneously usb should be inserted
2. Magisk YES, xposed NO
3. YES but in all roms whatsapp and fb messenger calling/hearing voice notes etc, closes the screen for 2/3 seconds , don't know why
4. your device become more dependent on you and too many options of new roms/kernel/mods keep you always on toes to flash more and more and again and again! i found it addictive! , also your device become insecure, and anyone can extract your data (if you didnt set finger scanner on custom rom) then you /data paritition is not encrypted and your privacy is at risk
but at the end! for me, its learning experience and if I am only gonna keep Droid on locked bootloader , never test rom, never tweak fone and have fun with it...... then i should better buy iphone
Hello XDA community,
I am considering installing a custom ROM on my Samsung Galaxy S22 (Exynos variant) and would like to gather some information regarding the implications of this action, especially if I decide to revert back to the official Samsung firmware later on.
Apps Compatibility: Which apps will no longer work if I switch back to the stock firmware after installing a custom ROM? I understand that tripping the Knox flag by rooting or installing custom ROMs can cause certain Samsung apps like Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, and Secure Folder to stop functioning. But what about other apps? Specifically, I am concerned about the compatibility of my banking app from Belfius (Belgium) with features like contactless payments.
OTA Updates: Will I still be able to receive Over-The-Air (OTA) updates once I have installed a custom ROM and then switched back to the official firmware?
I understand that the Exynos variant might not differ significantly from the Snapdragon variant in this context, but I thought it's worth mentioning.
Any insights or experiences that you could share would be immensely helpful. Thank you in advance!
So first thing you need to understand is that you would be installing a GSI and not a fully maintained device based Rom.
That means forget about the timely updates.
Secondly, GSIs are not optimized for particular phones and you might encounter bugs. From what I remeber, VOLTE won't work on GSI and for some phones even Bluetooth audio and mobile Hotspot won't work. Not to mention erratic battery life and unoptimized system.
App compatibility won't be an issue. But you have to say good bye to the samsung ecosystem. Also, if you do decide to install a custom rom, you will trip Knox and a few apps like secure folder, Samsung pay, samsung pass and Health might not work (unless they are patched). As for banking apps, they should work fine unless you are rooting your phone. If you do, you just to install a magisk module to pass the play stone security settings (forgot the name of it).
Also, if you again decide to go back on the stock rom, you just need to relock the bootloader and you should be able to get Ota updates again.
Overall, it's a good experience but you will grow tired of the bugs present in the GSI soon.