Hi, i have a US/Canada S9 Model SM G960W with SD845 and its an unlocked device from a carrier on contract (BELL Network). I have not received any official ONE UI update and today is 28th January 2019! I want to ask you all expert what should I do?
They changed the schedule for the update
Sorry but that's not the case. Every other youtuber has uploaded videos with their official updates. Even they are putting videos of Note 8 official uldate now. And here I'm stuck with Oreo
Sobiiboy said:
Sorry but that's not the case. Every other youtuber has uploaded videos with their official updates. Even they are putting videos of Note 8 official uldate now. And here I'm stuck with Oreo
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It hasn't rolled out to all regions and models yet, your current model latest update is still Oreo, nothing you can do but wait for Samung/Bell
Sobiiboy said:
Sorry but that's not the case. Every other youtuber has uploaded videos with their official updates. Even they are putting videos of Note 8 official uldate now. And here I'm stuck with Oreo
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The international s9's have pie now, you'll have to wait till feb 11th to receive it in canada, that's when rogers is rolling it out.
Got my update this morning. And I am in Michigan. Still trying everything out
Same man. I have s9+ W variant and i'm exhausted of waiting so long for the new updates. Its like samsung doesn't care about its Canadian users... Considering getting a Oneplus or a Pixel as my next device.
The test xml feed has changed a few times lately
http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/BWA/SM-G960W/version.test.xml
G960WVLS3CSAG.DM/G960WOYV3CSAG/G960WVLS3CSAG
Dosanjh6 said:
Same man. I have s9+ W variant and i'm exhausted of waiting so long for the new updates. Its like samsung doesn't care about its Canadian users... Considering getting a Oneplus or a Pixel as my next device.
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Nothing to do with Canada, no unlocked phones in the US have it and it's still rolling out to the carrier models.
I have a carrier phone( unlocked) in Canada but haven't received any update.
It's not instant and they don't release these updates to every phone on every carrier at the same time. The entire system would be inundated if they did. If you see reports that people on your carrier are getting the update then wait a week or so before you get concerned.
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Nothing to do with Canada, no unlocked phones in the US have it and it's still rolling out to the carrier models.
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U sure about that. I still feel as if Canadians get left out. We didn't even get a chance at getting the beta for pie while the rest of the world did.
https://www.droid-life.com/2019/01/31/att-samsung-galaxy-note-9-pie-update/
I have the unlocked us model but nothing. It's infuriating how slow Samsung is
Just wait, both me and wife got our updates a week ago. And I know some note 9's are getting there's as well here in Michigan
Rogers and fido updated their release schedule, we'll now get pie February 4th ?
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U sure about that. I still feel as if Canadians get left out. We didn't even get a chance at getting the beta for pie while the rest of the world did.
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Yep, I've, I've been on the beta since the beginning and even Samsung admits that unlocked phones get it last, it's the way Samsung has always done it. A lot of rhe carrier models are still waiting. In a way it makes sense, in the US at least, only a small percentage of the S9's are unlocked models. Samsung is going to take care of their cash cows first.
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Yep, I've, I've been on the beta since the beginning and even Samsung admits that unlocked phones get it last, it's the way Samsung has always done it. A lot of rhe carrier models are still waiting. In a way it makes sense, in the US at least, only a small percentage of the S9's are unlocked models. Samsung is going to take care of their cash cows first.
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Welll.... I'm screwed aren't I? I have the unlocked variant of Canada..
Tel864 said:
Yep, I've, I've been on the beta since the beginning and even Samsung admits that unlocked phones get it last, it's the way Samsung has always done it. A lot of rhe carrier models are still waiting. In a way it makes sense, in the US at least, only a small percentage of the S9's are unlocked models. Samsung is going to take care of their cash cows first.
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Well, if that is true, then Canada is screwed forever as ALL phones sold in Canada have had to be unlocked since 2017.
Dosanjh6 said:
Welll.... I'm screwed aren't I? I have the unlocked variant of Canada..
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There is no unlocked model in canada like in the us, they have their own U model, those are the unlucky ones, all canadian phones are W models.
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I am in need of a new tablet to replace my original kindle fire. I was about to pull the trigger on a Tab S when I saw a blurb about AT&T and an LTE model. If it is right around the corner, I will wait. If it is 2 months down the road, I will go ahead and get the one out now.
Any release dates that you guys know of?
None. Samsung will release when Samsung wants to release.
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None. Samsung will release when Samsung wants to release.
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I think it's more like when AT&T wants to release it..
Well I guess it does not have to be an AT&T one. I read that they were going to be the first to release the LTE version. I would gladly get one from someplace else when it comes to the US.
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Well I guess it does not have to be an AT&T one. I read that they were going to be the first to release the LTE version. I would gladly get one from someplace else when it comes to the US.
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i have 42 days left to return mine and thought about getting a Verizon version. my tablets have always been wifi with my phone as modem when needed but thought it might be nice to have it built in.
sadly i suspect that if i would get a carrier model even if i wanted to pay full retail i would end up with locked bootloader and carrier app garbage all over it?
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i have 42 days left to return mine and thought about getting a Verizon version. my tablets have always been wifi with my phone as modem when needed but thought it might be nice to have it built in.
sadly i suspect that if i would get a carrier model even if i wanted to pay full retail i would end up with locked bootloader and carrier app garbage all over it?
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And slow updates. If ever.
Has anyone actually physically checked? I saw the Samsung chats, but nothing officially stating they are or are not locked.
Yes, FRP lock is on and no option to turn it off anywhere like on the Exynos model.
I don't see why samsung, and if not them the companies, have to be dicks about this and screw over their US clients.
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Yes, FRP lock is on and no option to turn it off anywhere like on the Exynos model.
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It is shame. One of the reasons that I switched to Tmobile was because their Samsung phones always had unlocked bootloaders.
I learned my lesson with the s7 edge and didn't buy the phone right away this time around. My Note 7 with root was amazing, but we all know what happen with it.
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It is shame. One of the reasons that I switched to Tmobile was because their Samsung phones always had unlocked bootloaders.
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I feel your pain. I switched from at&t for that very same reason and now all us models have locked bootloaders, but with all the customization you could do to these phones rooting and flashing isn't really necessary for me anymore. I just like the phone all around. It's a great phone. [emoji4]
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Cancelled my T-Mobile pre-order awhile ago for this reason! Ordered the Exynos international model so that I can continue to enjoy unlocked on XDA!
galaxys said:
Cancelled my T-Mobile pre-order awhile ago for this reason! Ordered the Exynos international model so that I can continue to enjoy unlocked on XDA!
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But you won't be getting early updates and you may suffer when the gigabit network comes although don't quote me on that.
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But you won't be getting early updates and you may suffer when the gigabit network comes although don't quote me on that.
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Lol... its a well known fact that the international devices get faster and more frequent updates than US or Canadian devices ever will.
I was laughing at all the guys on US/ Can s7s whining about no update to nougat..i had nougat on my international S7 edge mos before they did.
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I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader still eventually got root.
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I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader still eventually got root.
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True the international versions lack some features but depending on your use they may or may not matter..for me I could care less about any of those so no biggie but others may need them.
Id rather have root,twrp and roms etc
The root on the s7 and note 7 snaps was via leaked engineering firmware and it wasnt ideal...buggy, slow and just a general pain to deal with.
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I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader still eventually got root.
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Yep, I had the s7 edge and rooted it but it wasn't the same as when I had the T-Mobile version of the phone. It was a pain. These phones are great and I rather use it to its fullest. I also use android pay and want to use samsung pay so for me I'm good without unlocked billiards for now. I have a bunch of phones I have rooted that I can get my flashaholic tendency out. Lol. My pixel gives me that pure android feel so having a vendor feel is ok with me. I will be going back and fourth. I also don't know how having an international version will affect the gigabit network update when it comes out.
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I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader still eventually got root.
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I got the international s7 edge and volte, WiFi calling work great with csc utility 2.3.5 for it
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I got the international s7 edge and volte, WiFi calling work great with csc utility 2.3.5 for it
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same here
not sure what he's talking about
skipping the T mobile one again
waiting on swappa price to go down a bit
someone sold one for 700 new and i misssed that
force70 said:
Lol... its a well known fact that the international devices get faster and more frequent updates than US or Canadian devices ever will.
I was laughing at all the guys on US/ Can s7s whining about no update to nougat..i had nougat on my international S7 edge mos before they did.
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You get what you choose. I chose a carrier model because it is superior in network quality. I can't root my primary phone anymore because my work policies flag rooted phones automatically and I stop syncing. For my playground, I have Pixel XL. Fastest updates, unlocked everything. For a reliable phone I have TMobile S8+. Like i said, you get what you pay for and pick up.
I mean hey sure the bootloader is locked, but once the right person gets one of these in their hands Im sure there will be an exploit. Just gotta wait patiently good things come to those who wait!
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I mean hey sure the bootloader is locked, but once the right person gets one of these in their hands Im sure there will be an exploit. Just gotta wait patiently good things come to those who wait!
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While it is software written by humans and anything is possible. S7 never got an unlocked bootloader. We got root with the eng_boot.imgs, but never an unlocked bl.
But I'm holding hope. The community is full of extremely clever people.
Really sucks, I recall the heyday of the Galaxy Note II and SIII, man back then there were like 200 ROM's out, Touchwiz, AOSP, CyanogenMod, etc... Root and Recovery available the first week the phones released.
And I'm talking the U.S. carrier phones too. Not just the international.
And then they all stopped after the Galaxy S4 came out. They released a firmware and locked the **** down like a Navy sub going deep. Note 3 too LOCKED. And forever the good days long gone.
Except the T-Mobile Note 5 was rooted and ROM. But that was a freak rarity.
Now root and recovery are things of dreams for Galaxy phones.
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Whole reason I moved to T-Mobile two years ago, was for the unlocked bootloaders that T-Mo was famous for, even when Verizon and ATT didn't allow that anymore. The Galaxy Note 5 was their last unlocked phone, since then, the S7, and Note7 were LOCKED, and looks like the S8 is too.
Glory days are gone.
Almost like the Jailbreak scene, which has faded bad, and there's only a stable JB released maybe once a year or every 18 months.
Just a quick question, but i have yet to see any discussion on rooting or roming and of the gsm versions of the tablet, Verizon has had the tablet the longest, but they are a no go with bootloader unlocks so its probably pointless, but i have some small amount of hope for TMobile and and a lesser amount for at&t version. thanks for answering, i bought the tablet anyways because it is literally the last good Android tablet left, root or no root so ill make it work either way, and themes will fix most of my issues anyhow
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Just a quick question, but i have yet to see any discussion on rooting or roming and of the gsm versions of the tablet, Verizon has had the tablet the longest, but they are a no go with bootloader unlocks so its probably pointless, but i have some small amount of hope for TMobile and and a lesser amount for at&t version. thanks for answering, i bought the tablet anyways because it is literally the last good Android tablet left, root or no root so ill make it work either way, and themes will fix most of my issues anyhow
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I had the T-Mobile and Verizon variants of this tablet and neither has "OEM Unlock" for the bootloader so rooting is not possible right now and most likely will require an exploit to be found to allow this. The community is small with these tablets from what I have seen so far.
Also, neither had the latest version of Firmware so Linux on DeX does not work on them yet. This could change any day when an update is rolled out but you will need to wait on the carrier to roll that out.
That said it is a Great Tablet!
fine to know i guess, all i need is a normal Android tab, might mess with the dex stuff but not why i getting it, i would only have rooted it when Samsung gave up on the tablet anyhow, as they always seem to do with the tablets in my experience
I bought the Verizon model not realizing it couldn't be rooted. I returned it.
Another big reason not to buy a carrier branded tablet is that it will be throttled data if using a voice line on TMobile.
However if you buy the Korean model, you can root, use your voice sim for full data speed voice and text apps, and get 6GB of ram.
This is the one I got shipped to the US. No issues whatsoever : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...-LTE-Unlocked-4K-Record-SM-T835-/253816928507
Did you have to pay any customs/duty fees? Thx.
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Did you have to pay any customs/duty fees? Thx.
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Nope, no fees. The item description warned of that but I didn't pay anything outside of eBay
I'm very happy and would do it again
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I had the T-Mobile and Verizon variants of this tablet and neither has "OEM Unlock" for the bootloader so rooting is not possible right now and most likely will require an exploit to be found to allow this. The community is small with these tablets from what I have seen so far.
Also, neither had the latest version of Firmware so Linux on DeX does not work on them yet. This could change any day when an update is rolled out but you will need to wait on the carrier to roll that out.
That said it is a Great Tablet!
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it should work on arj3 correct? i am going to try tonight.. theres a sprint arj3 firmware floating around the internet.. maybe ill upload but not many users on here..
and yes, the usa carrier variants can b cross flashed.. ive flashed sprint firmware onto my vzw tablet no problem
elliwigy said:
it should work on arj3 correct? i am going to try tonight.. theres a sprint arj3 firmware floating around the internet.. maybe ill upload but not many users on here..
and yes, the usa carrier variants can b cross flashed.. ive flashed sprint firmware onto my vzw tablet no problem
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The T-Mobile build was ARJ3 but it was the September Security Patch and a U1 bootoader. Linux on DeX looks like it needs at least the October Security Patch. Good Luck!
Enjoy
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Enjoy
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It's not available for my us unlocked version yet
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my370z said:
It's not available for my us unlocked version yet
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Unlocked typically gets the update after all the carriers push out their update. It's the downside of buying the unlocked version.
I kinda don't understand this. How are these updates linked to carriers? I thought these updates are made available over the internet, so if I am on wifi internet, with no sim inside my phone, what any carrier has to do with this update? What am I missing here? These updates are not available on samsung servers?
I recently bought a Nokia 8110 4g phone. Tried to update its firmware with no success over wifi (KaiOS). As soon as I took out the SIM, it found the update and updated with no problem.
Why my Note 10+ would be linked to any carrier? I did not bought it through a carrier and it is not unlocked. It is bought from Singapore and it is SM-N975F/DS (Global) version, while I am being in Europe.
Can someone shed some light into this?
Samsung holds on the Unlocked firmware update until the carrier's start pushing. At least in the USA.
Yeah, but it is unclear to my what is "carrier pushing" and why it is needed. Over the internet, Samsung servers could do this w/o any form of carrier involvement or knowledge. Why "carrier" is in in this chain?!? It is like my Windows would be updated only when my internet service provider wants it.
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Yeah, but it is unclear to my what is "carrier pushing" and why it is needed. Over the internet, Samsung servers could do this w/o any form of carrier involvement or knowledge. Why "carrier" is in in this chain?!? It is like my Windows would be updated only when my internet service provider wants it.
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Exactly, Google and handset manufacturers need to step in! Imagine if Apple let carriers modify iOS! That would never happen! That was a good analogy by the way! :good:
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I kinda don't understand this. How are these updates linked to carriers? I thought these updates are made available over the internet, so if I am on wifi internet, with no sim inside my phone, what any carrier has to do with this update? What am I missing here? These updates are not available on samsung servers?
I recently bought a Nokia 8110 4g phone. Tried to update its firmware with no success over wifi (KaiOS). As soon as I took out the SIM, it found the update and updated with no problem.
Why my Note 10+ would be linked to any carrier? I did not bought it through a carrier and it is not unlocked. It is bought from Singapore and it is SM-N975F/DS (Global) version, while I am being in Europe.
Can someone shed some light into this?
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Same thought. I stay here in Singapore & I bought it directly from Samsung, until now no OTA update. In Singapore, network providers never lock any smartphone, but 3 major networks here have different CSC (SIN/STH/MM1), mine was the non-network Singapore CSC which is XSP, still to no avail. I am forced to update via odin because of this.
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Yeah, but it is unclear to my what is "carrier pushing" and why it is needed. Over the internet, Samsung servers could do this w/o any form of carrier involvement or knowledge. Why "carrier" is in in this chain?!? It is like my Windows would be updated only when my internet service provider wants it.
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This is because the carriers can customise the firmwares for their network. (add in extra apps; turn options on or off etc.) so therefore the carriers have to approve each and every new firmware that's developed by Samsung.
Samsung will do the actual "pushing" of the carrier-cusomised firmware, but only once the carrier gives them permission to do so.
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This is because the carriers can customise the firmwares for their network. (add in extra apps; turn options on or off etc.) so therefore the carriers have to approve each and every new firmware that's developed by Samsung.
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This is most probably stupid and needs to stop.
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This is most probably stupid and needs to stop.
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That's highly unlikely to happen.
Carrier customisations are fundamental to how the industry is currently working
Can you give me a sample of this "carrier customization"? Fundamental to carriers or to us the customers?
It's most likely contractual.
So essentially, Samsung waits for the carriers to modify their firmware, release that first then release their UNCHANGED firmware/security patch to the unlocked devices...
That is such a crap model. Common sense would say to release what you can first... This would also push the carriers to release these updates in a much timelier manner as there is no benefit to be on carrier software if the patches are months behind the unlocked devices...
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So essentially, Samsung waits for the carriers to modify their firmware, release that first then release their UNCHANGED firmware/security patch to the unlocked devices...
That is such a crap model. Common sense would say to release what you can first... This would also push the carriers to release these updates in a much timelier manner as there is no benefit to be on carrier software if the patches are months behind the unlocked devices...
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LOL, you must be new to Samsung devices!
I kid, I kid. But seriously. It sucks, but it's reality. Benn that way since at least the S8.
I don't show any updates available for my Korean 10+ 5g yet either
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LOL, you must be new to Samsung devices!
I kid, I kid. But seriously. It sucks, but it's reality. Benn that way since at least the S8.
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This has been the case since the Galaxy S2, if not earlier.
I suspect (but don't know) that Samsung have some form of contractual obligation to the networks to not release any new features etc. until the network devices (don't forget some networks may have paid a lot to Samsung to have an "exclusive" on the handset when it was released) have had a chance to get said feature.
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This has been the case since the Galaxy S2, if not earlier.
I suspect (but don't know) that Samsung have some form of contractual obligation to the networks to not release any new features etc. until the network devices (don't forget some networks may have paid a lot to Samsung to have an "exclusive" on the handset when it was released) have had a chance to get said feature.
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Didn't even realize they had unlocked models going back that far. I has an S3 and a Note 2, but back then I was on Verizon so there was no thought of carrier unlocked models. It was a V model or nothing, LOL. My next Galaxy after those was an S7Edge, but they were all still carrier exclusive models. I had T-Mobile by them, so I had a G935T. They eventually came out with a G935U, I think, but I never had one.
It wasn't until the S8/+ they had the universal hardware for all carriers, and that's also when I really got back into the Samsung devices and started flashing U1 and U firmware. That was my first experience with unlocked vs carrier model updates. I didn't realize the update situation had been that way since nlthr S2, other than Samsung has always been slow with updates.
Yeah, I said earlier it was likely contractual. Like you I don't know that for sure, but that's the only thing I can think of.
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Yeah, but it is unclear to my what is "carrier pushing" and why it is needed. Over the internet, Samsung servers could do this w/o any form of carrier involvement or knowledge. Why "carrier" is in in this chain?!? It is like my Windows would be updated only when my internet service provider wants it.
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because some carriers like to test the updates and ensure their services andbloatware are working before pushing an update.. last i checked tho sprint and tmobile use Samsung fota servers.. vzw of course just has to use their own servers.. att does as well..
even if u sign up to use samsungs efota advanced it clearly indicates will not work with vzw or att devices...
as far as the rest of the world i have no idea lol
I currently have a G7 ULM which was the unlocked version for the US. I bout it from Google Fi, but this phone since it is not carrier specific will never be updated by LG. Still on Android 9.
Other versions of the G7 have received OTA updates.
So I wonder which version of the LG G8 I should buy in order to not get stuck (apparently they will update up to Android 11 for this model)
But I need a GSM unlocked G8 that I can update OTA using any carrier other than the one it is tied to.
Which one would you recommend for this and also for less bloatware etc?
I really like having the fingerprint sensor on the back and it seems that the LG G8 is the last iteration of phones from LG with this feature and it is an upgrade from the G7. (which is great in my opinion)
It is cheap here in the US too.
Suggestions appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
Just came across your post. I have an unlocked LG G8 that I purchased from Best Buy running on Verizon. I have had some OTA updates but, as you know, LG is slow with them. I am on Android 10 with the 4/1/21 security patch. They say that it's supposed to get Android 11; keeping my fingers crossed. I hope this helps a little.
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Just came across your post. I have an unlocked LG G8 that I purchased from Best Buy running on Verizon. I have had some OTA updates but, as you know, LG is slow with them. I am on Android 10 with the 4/1/21 security patch. They say that it's supposed to get Android 11; keeping my fingers crossed. I hope this helps a little.
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thanks man! You are the only one who likes pink floyd apparently lol..
I have Tmobile and would need a version that works with tmobile.. not sure which one to get. The unlocked versions are harder to get updates because according to a rep from LG they need to test with many carriers before they release the OTA update. May or may not be true.
But thanks for your input !
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thanks man! You are the only one who likes pink floyd apparently lol..
I have Tmobile and would need a version that works with tmobile.. not sure which one to get. The unlocked versions are harder to get updates because according to a rep from LG they need to test with many carriers before they release the OTA update. May or may not be true.
But thanks for your input !
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Yep, I do like Pink Floyd. Amazon does have some lg g8’s both unlocked and locked to t-mobile. Most of them seem to be “renewed”, as they put it. T-mobile locked would be best as long as t-mobile keeps up on their updates. Hopefully lg will keep their promise to bring out Android 11 for these phones.
I hope that you’re able to find a good deal.