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No more update

Do not by it.
The M2 will stay on 5.1, while the M3 is on 7.0
That is a shame From huawei

Pascal536 said:
Do not by it.
The M2 will stay on 5.1, while the M3 is on 7.0
That is a shame From huawei
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I wouldn't be so harsh on Huawei. They did provide a means to unlock your device. Unfortunately there isn't much in the way of after-market development at the moment. I'd be willing to give it a try but don't really know where to start, however the investigation continues...
<rant>As a side-note, Oppo takes the award for the worst company. As a R7s owner I was surprised at the length they went to stop people developing for this device, and they didn't provide any updates either. If you want to advise anyone which company to avoid, I think Oppo is at the top of the list.</rant>

Yeah it's a real shame. They promised Marshmallow and cancelled it in the end without any information to us users...
Never gonna buy a Huawei again.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Yeah it's a real shame. They promised Marshmallow and cancelled it in the end without any information to us users...
Never gonna buy a Huawei again.
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Me too

The same here!

I changed from samsung to huawei but I will never buy huawey: I had to buy a new smartphone and I was convinced to buy huawei Nova but after this deportment I will change my choice

Pascal536 said:
Do not by it.
The M2 will stay on 5.1, while the M3 is on 7.0
That is a shame From huawei
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There is an Android 6.0 update since a half year. But this don't come over OTA, right? They have canceled this? I could flash it for 6 month. Since this time there come no newer security patches. Really bad by huawei.
The update has broken some things like the launcher. I have must for the person take the settings new. Maybe that was the reason for cancel. Just flashable, no OTA, so do you mean it, right?
For M2-801L (lte-version) we have used the B206. Looks that huawei's developer had gotten no much time for this device. So no official roll out possible. For P8 Lite they roll out every month security patches. Crazy for a cheap phone.

Bye
I will go back to SAMSUNG

Pascal536 said:
I will go back to SAMSUNG
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Samsung is almost in every device My Z Play has Samsung MMC flash and Samsung RAM So far so good. Updates? LOS14.1 the best, but not so easy on Kirin
Short: Media Pad M2 and updates are dead

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I will go back to SAMSUNG
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Samsung are no better.
I have lost count of the amount of Samsung devices that I have owned that have never had more than one or two very minor updates and then been abandoned by them.
My last tablet was the Galaxy TabPRO 8.4, it was released as part of their flagship range at the time, got 3 or 4 security patches then abandoned by them - only ever had 4.4.2 which was a real shame given its good spec and awesome 2560 x 1600 screen.

I dont care about updates
You shouldn't be so harsh on huawei, because updates are only important if you play on your device. I only use it as a media device, and not for games, and I think there will be sufficient apps for it in the next 3 years. It is also important, that no update is better than ****ty update. I just changed from my Nexus 7 to Huawei mediapad, because there was an update to lollipop. beforethe update everything was smooth,now the device is lagging so hard, I wish I were able to downgrade it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/help/nexus-7-unusabable-5-1-t3110720

@Boris An sorry to correct you. But with all those newly found security breaches on the SoC level "no update" is unacceptable. I bought it because Huawei stated that they will update the M2 at least to Marshmallow. That's just ridiculous and causes an enormous fragmentation. I'm so glad that Treble has to be active and implemented on all devices delivered with an Android 8 since this year. Won't buy any device running Android 7 or lower any longer, just to show those OEM that it's time for a change. And Huawei is just dead for me. Never again. Such a bad service...
Treble can realise a better update policy across different OEMs and bring Android nearer to the best practice update policy of Apple, assuring more devices to be other latest Android version and security-patch level.
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DEC 5, 2017 Security Patch was just pushed out to my M2-801W

ZiCott said:
DEC 5, 2017 Security Patch was just pushed out to my M2-801W
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It's sad and ridiculous. The Premium variant is still on 5.1.1 ...
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
It's sad and ridiculous. The Premium variant is still on 5.1.1 ...
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6.0 on 801l available, but security patch just from end 2016. Very bad and there is no newer version like B206?

Will post the name, something like B010 was pushed today as a new security patch.Something like 58Mb, with device improvements and security updates.Didnt install it yet.I have the 16gb wifi version of the 10.1 inch M2.Gladly the still update it, now hoping we will ever get a newer emui.Nice tab, very nice but cant share it with my partner for example due to emui 3.1..Happy anyway!

For the M2 801l it's B208 out with march security patch and EMUI 4.0.3. Better than nothing.

Got this update last week-end:
OTA-M2-A01WV100R001C100B008_B010
This improves system stability and security, along with the newest security patches from Google.

i received the "com.huawei.android.hwouc.17784.apk" through the Yalp store, not google playstore...Is it safe to install it and try update?

No OREO in march either

I got good news for you all!
https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
No oreo in march either, just a nice security patch..

Who said that security update and Oreo can't be in the same month? A little more optimism.

.czarodziej said:
Who said that security update and Oreo can't be in the same month? A little more optimism.
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The changelog would've said Oreo in it.

M1810 said:
I got good news for you all!
https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
No oreo in march neither, just a nice security patch..
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What part of that says "there will be no Oreo update in March"? It just says that the current update will include security patches through 3/1. Nowhere does it say it will be the only update in March. In fact, the staged rollout for Oreo on Lenovo/moto phones has already started in Australia and New Zealand with the X4, and the G5 Plus is on the short list to get the update after the X4, so the chances are really good that we'll start to see the G5 Plus getting Oreo in March or April (the PR firm handling the release of information hasn't given an exact date, just that the rollout has started, and the list of devices that will get it after the X4)

agentfusion said:
What part of that says "there will be no Oreo update in March"? It just says that the current update will include security patches through 3/1. Nowhere does it say it will be the only update in March. In fact, the staged rollout for Oreo on Lenovo/moto phones has already started in Australia and New Zealand with the X4, and the G5 Plus is on the short list to get the update after the X4, so the chances are really good that we'll start to see the G5 Plus getting Oreo in March or April (the PR firm handling the release of information hasn't given an exact date, just that the rollout has started, and the list of devices that will get it after the X4)
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The january patch changelig was released in november.. and we got it in februsry with no oreo.. i'm sure the same will happen now..
Also, we'll get oreo after the z series, which has got a new soak test.. so my guess is the end of april or may

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The january patch changelig was released in november.. and we got it in februsry with no oreo.. i'm sure the same will happen now..
Also, we'll get oreo after the z series, which has got a new soak test.. so my guess is the end of april or may
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Which z series phone is running a soak test at the moment?

psychopac said:
Which z series phone is running a soak test at the moment?
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Seems it's the Z, Z Play and Z2 Play at the moment in soak test from their respective XDA forums. There seems to be a couple of reports suggesting the Z Force is also in soak test https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75547609&postcount=7 X4 and Z2 Force have the OTA for Oreo (looks like Z2 Force came out a few days ago).
Maybe after their official release, the G4 Plus/G5 (Plus) and G5S (Plus) devices are next? That is, if the G6 release doesn't get in the way...

I think motorola is waiting for the G5 to reach 1 year so they wln't have to provide 8.1 update..

M1810 said:
I think motorola is waiting for the G5 to reach 1 year so they wln't have to provide 8.1 update..
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Pretty sure they'll release only 8.0 and not 8.1

My take in this is that it will take about 15 days into March until we see this patch being pushed to at least one of the regions.
(Likely to be retbr first) [lucky me, br]
echo92 could be right though, we may see Soak Tests for the G5 Plus.
Actually, I think the Z Play will very, very soon receive Oreo officially
Check this: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126755
I mean, always keep an eye on the Lenovo Support pages. Search for Maintenance, Oreo. They update it almost daily.

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Pretty sure they'll release only 8.0 and not 8.1
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My guess: they either release 8.1 for the G5 S and G5 S plus or they will release 8.1 for both G5 and G5S plus models..

I actually decided to analyze the time between update release dates and update notes date in the Lenovo Support page...
If my calculations are correct we may only receive Oreo in May. That if they don't decide to come up with an April security patch for Nougat.

reCoded said:
The changelog would've said Oreo in it.
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They obviously aren't including Oreo with this update, but that doesn't mean they can't have a separate update for Oreo without the security patch

Rocketfin said:
They obviously aren't including Oreo with this update, but that doesn't mean they can't have a separate update for Oreo without the security patch
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This could be true.. remember the soak tests from the Z series got december security patch when stock 7.1 already had it..

FWIW - https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...8-Oreo-Update-CONFIRMED/td-p/3806219/page/131

BlackScout said:
I actually decided to analyze the time between update release dates and update notes date in the Lenovo Support page...
If my calculations are correct we may only receive Oreo in May. That if they don't decide to come up with an April security patch for Nougat.
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Last year a Lenovo device as same price range of Moto g 5 plus got update to Nougat in last week of may.

lol
Android P Preview released and we still didn't get an Oreo update
Never buying any Moto/Lenovo smartphone again

luizlee86 said:
lol
Android P Preview released and we still didn't get an Oreo update
Never buying any Moto/Lenovo smartphone again
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Android One devices are the right way, my next device will be one of them

I would go for custom ROM.. but i'll lose 10% of my camera quality and i won't have stock moto apps which i like..
Anyway, considering how P looks by now, i prefer ore a hundred times.. let's see how this goes until august

M1810 said:
I would go for custom ROM.. but i'll lose 10% of my camera quality and i won't have stock moto apps which i like..
Anyway, considering how P looks by now, i prefer ore a hundred times.. let's see how this goes until august
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Not true, you could always just use one of the HDR+ ports which really improve camera quality

Another security update in April(no oreo update yet)

We're waiting for the Oreo update but it doesnt seem to be coming anytime soon.
Just another security update.
Maintenance update: https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/126135

Last night my XT1670 retla was updated to the security patch of January 1st. Still Android 7.0, but waiting for Oreo...

And I received january security patch today (XT1671 RETLA)

Di you notice any changes in behavior?

On reteu also the same update

I already got the march patch some days ago, retbr

Maybe Android Oreo will be released in April 19th, 2018. It's the announcement date of Moto G6 Play, Moto G6 and Moto G6 Plus.

Ramonms98 said:
Maybe Android Oreo will be released in April 19th, 2018. It's the announcement date of Moto G6 Play, Moto G6 and Moto G6 Plus.
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That's really bad news because if we don't get the update before G6 launch we'll probably never see oreo on the G5, it's going be forgotten by lenovo.

XJeFX said:
That's really bad news because if we don't get the update before G6 launch we'll probably never see oreo on the G5, it's going be forgotten by lenovo.
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They will update the Moto G5 Series to 8.0.0.

Today i've got march security update in Germany. Two security updates in 3 weeks, but no oreo

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They will update the Moto G5 Series to 8.0.0.
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they said the same for the G4 series and then didn't even updated to nougat as of today, 2 years+ later.

They updated Moto G4 series Unlocked variants to 7.0 and 7.1.1

The worst ever software update service i ever had. Thought samsung was the worst. But its non other than Moto. I bought this phone just because... Thinking that it will be stock Android, it will update quickly.. and will have better support. Moto used to be ahead of evey other , right behind nexus / pixel devices in terms of software update. But soon after Lenovo acquired moto, software update is a nightmare for every single moto phone.
You may have seen xda portal news about moto g6 series. Well they too wont be getting much support either.
I bought this phone as my secondary phone... I will give this to mom and will buy something like xiaomi note 5 or Zenfone pro m1 . I have a pixel 2 xl as primary.. evey time it gets update notification... I desperately check software update on this too. Now its on march 1 security update. I am looking forward to 64bit official os. Hope Lenovo will do it atlest in two years.
Btw.. i had only one phone from Lenovo ever before. A6000 just 3 days after i bought it its vibration motor stopped!! And when i searched for the reason , i figured out that it was one of their common problems. So i thought to put in some local vibrator motor from local market.. as going and waiting for service is too time consuming. When i opened the phone. I was literally shocked by the quality of the pcb construction.. it was like cheep chineese phones.. soo bad construction .. lol.. they dont even care to put rf sheilds and cheep quality wires and speakers. Literally... Some Chinese manufacturers make better pcb.. If you compare that pcb with something like nokia 1110 ( ya a phone from almost 10 years back) . Nokia's pcb is still the winner. !! Generations ahead.. still .. That day i decided.. i will never buy a Lenovo product again. And I didn't even care to go to local market and buy a vibration motor for that phone.. i closed it. And after a week, gifted to a friend.
Lol.. p20 and p20 pro.. good they sealed it. Donno what will be inside.

I also bought moto to get quick updates and I think, best solution to get oreo is installing custom rom and voiding warranty. That's so funny, lenovo can't still release oreo, but custom roms are on 8.1

Update Android pie

How long it takes to become Update to Android 9.
Older devices from Moto like the Moto G6 get it.
For our Z2 Force no news.
Hope that I could use after that volte after Update to Android 9.
Now with Android 8 volte is disabled for european devices ?

Motorola Brazil said the next phones getting Pie are: Moto Z3 Play, Z2 Force, Z2 Play, G6 and G6 Play.
I believe we will get it with the March Update. There are probably a security update coming within the next days, so Pie will probably the update after that one.

Too bad we not even have 8.1
My favourite Substratum themes don't support 8.0 since a while and I am frustrated waiting for an update ....

Bietschek said:
How long it takes to become Update to Android 9.
Older devices from Moto like the Moto G6 get it.
For our Z2 Force no news.
Hope that I could use after that volte after Update to Android 9.
Now with Android 8 volte is disabled for european devices ?
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The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
Are u shure that volte is disabled is in European model? I'm using an Europe model and volte and Wifi calling is working without any problem.

jonas210678 said:
The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
Are u shure that volte is disabled is in European model? I'm using an Europe model and volte and Wifi calling is working without any problem.
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I have a UK bought reteu model and I have nothing in settings to enable native WiFi calling or volte.

jonas210678 said:
The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
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That's right, but Z-series get two major updates. First difference. And the second difference is that the Z2 Force is a 799€ device and not just 249€ like the Moto G6. So we can expect more and longer updates for it. Normally Z-phones should get it first. We have no 8.1, so at least 9.0 first. Hope

jonas210678 said:
The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
Are u shure that volte is disabled is in European model? I'm using an Europe model and volte and Wifi calling is working without any problem.
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No, there is no Option to enable volte and wifi calling.
I read online that Motorola disabled it after Update from Android 7 to 8 cause they had a Problem with that. But never fixed it. After that long Times that is not ok. I cant count that as a Support.
If volte is not working after Update to Android 9 the z2 force Was the last device I bought from Motorola.

What is Moto doing? Not even a security patch since November. This is an Android Enterprise Recommended smartphone. They are supposed to follow Google's guidelines to get security updates atleast every 90 days. We're in February almost and no security patch is being released or Android 9. Google should tell them a thing or two.

TigerCourage said:
What is Moto doing? Not even a security patch since November. This is an Android Enterprise Recommended smartphone. They are supposed to follow Google's guidelines to get security updates atleast every 90 days. We're in February almost and no security patch is being released or Android 9. Google should tell them a thing or two.
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There's a December patch for the Verizon model.

Ace42 said:
There's a December patch for the Verizon model.
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Reteu still on November patch..

FrankRr said:
Reteu still on November patch..
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Should coming in few days. Have seen, that the january patch is documented on moto page for z2 force and z3 play. Keep cool, it's on the way. But no pie xD Next time maybe :silly:

Almost all of the Moto devices are on Pie now , mine Moto X4 is also on Dec Patch Pie update , only the flagship Z series is lagging behind :'(
Last time , Oreo came in Dec but this time i think Moto is gonna follow Moto Z , who received Oreo in Apr 2018 (after Dec 17 patch) =_=

openmx still on november patch

Here, too. Seems that's need more time.

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Here, too. Seems that's need more time.
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An official from Motorola Spain said to me at the Moto G7 launch event that the Moto Z2 Android Pie update has started but it's rolling out really slowly. It has the December 2018 security patch, just like the new G7. I'm typing this from the new G7 BTW.

I think they delayed the update. Z2F official website shows the January update already, but seems like nobody received it yet. Retbr here and still nothing.

VzQzZ said:
I think they delayed the update. Z2F official website shows the January update already, but seems like nobody received it yet. Retbr here and still nothing.
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Yes, have seen this, too. Maybe Pie is coming and no january-patch?

allrightlite said:
Yes, have seen this, too. Maybe Pie is coming and no january-patch?
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I hope that's the case but to be honest I really doubt it. I believe we will only Pie with the March Update or even later. Z3 Play haven't received Pie yet, I doubt we will get it before it.

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I hope that's the case but to be honest I really doubt it. I believe we will only Pie with the March Update or even later. Z3 Play haven't received Pie yet, I doubt we will get it before it.
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Z3 play is rolling out today https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-z3-play-android-pie-update/

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Z3 play is rolling out today https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-z3-play-android-pie-update/
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That's good news! Now this can really mean there's a possibility that Motorola delayed the security update to finally update Z2F to Pie. If this scenario become reality, I guess we should be seeing Pie in the next coming weeks. Fingers crossed

Nokia 3.2 TA-1156 does not receive updates - last update was April 2019

I buy for our company only Nokia devices as Android One is for me the single most important feature! The devices are cheap and overall ok. Everything was smooth, until now.
We used Nokia 3.1 in the past until now as they ran out of production and they get kinda old, so I bought now the first 3.2 devices and I noticed, that the newest security update is only April 2019!
I tried multiple ways to force and update, which didn't work, and even had an hour long chat with the support telling me that for this build 00EEA_1_03D is really the latest update April 2019 and he cannot help me at all.
How can this be as Android One should always have the latest version of security updates?
We bought the devices on amazon.de where someone else also stated that he was stuck on April 2019.
So does anyelse have issues or experience with stuck or non-monthly-updates for the 3.2?

The same issue here, I have a brand new TA-1164 (EU, 3 GB RAM, 32 GB storage) model and it is stuck on July 2019 update. There are more reports of this issue in Reddit Nokia forum.
The official Nokia support also told me this model has compass sensor which is not true. Unfortunately you can't get any good support these days
And there are similar reports for Nokia 4.2. The Android One program is just another Google joke as the whole platform is crap when it comes to security and support.

There is a long discussion about it https://community.phones.nokia.com/...te-and-it-is-stuck-with-build-00eea-1-03d-why

Has anyone resolved the issue? Nokia support is unable to help. It seems as the 00EEA_ firmware family is completely unsupported.

I've just received 2019-08 update, still outdated. You have to recheck for new update again after the restart, it downloads 2019-09 right now.