Current Android Headunit Bluetooth Capabiities - Connected Car

Hi everyone, looking to pick up an octacore headunit from aliexpress, "KANOR" branded.
[can't post link because new member]
But one of the main reasons I want it is to connect with my ECU through a google play app called MDash. It connects via bluetooth. Through my reading over these android head units, I've seen a lot of mentions of the bluetooth functionality only working for music, phone calls, and the obd2 adapters. Does anyone have experience on whether or not the bluetooth is still this limited for the newer Android 8.0 octacore units? And if so, is there a way I can get the functionality I need out of the headunit by rooting it?
Thanks for your time and help!

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bump. Any help is greatly appreciated before I spend my money on a headunit.

Yes mate still crap. In fact Id say worse.
I have a new erising octa px5, mtcE, android 8 and bluetooth is minimal. Phone app is rubbish, sounds / looks terrible and it just about works .
Dont no for sure what profiles it has stock but seems everywhere I read now ppl are going the android auto route (which uses 'OK' google everything (surprise surprise)) and always on data. etc.
Lemmings!

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Dodge Uconnect 430 and Sprint SGS3 woes - MAP compatibility

Some of you must own a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep vehicle with a Uconnect stereo in it, right?
I've been all over the google search, the Dodge Forums, calling Chrysler's Uconnect dept, etc. and no one seems to have any clue what their talking about. I know that XDA is knowledgeable about all things phone. Searching doesn't get my exact questions, here's an unanswered one for the HTC EvoLTE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667801). The Ford SYNC systems have a similar problem.
I have a 2012 Dodge Durango with a Uconnect 430 RBZ stereo. It announces that my phone (the Sprint SGS3 with 4.1.1 LJ7 stock non-rooted (for now)) is not compatible with the Bluetooth Messaging Access Protocol profile or MAP-profile necessary to announce and control the SMS messages on my phone. There's a service on our phones that runs constantly when the bluetooth is enabled called MAPSamsungService, which after googling/reading/searching, leads me to believe this is the messaging protocol that the Uconnect desires.
My questions are:
1) Why won't this radio identify the MAP process of the SGS3 and connect to it Are there ROMs that do support this? (CM10 reportedly does support this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916902 - but I don't like the CM10 camera....so...yeah)
2) Has anyone had success in getting the SMS messages functionality on their Uconnect
3) Has anyone had luck with getting your contacts to properly sync? All mine are Google Contacts, and it is VERY random which ones show up. (I have just less than 1000 contacts, which is apparently the upper limit for these radios)
[just in case this shows up in google searches, I have learned that USB drives connected to the Uconnect need to be in FAT32 format and you can only move 2048 songs over at a time to the HDD, so load up multiple flash drives for the transfer. must be constant bit rate not VBR, 1000 folders is limit and 20k songs]
as a former u-connect owner and current audi interface owner, let me offer the following:
When sold, the technology in any car is about 2-5 years old. meaning it was designed to interface with phones 2-5 years ago. so if you have an old phone, it will probably work great!!
Chysler never offered a flash or upgrade to the original uconnect system, but that was supposed to change with the RBZ. My brothers at the LX forum have reported that is not really true. There are some systems that allow you to get around this with aftermarket HU but not what you are looking for.
No way to know what ROM's will work or not because of your specific situation. There is a mammoth black hole where all BT protocols go...no one seems interested in making it generic.
We currently own 2 vehicles under the VW/Audi brand and a Ford with a Pioneer HU in it. My EVO LTE phone book will update in the VW, but not the Audi. Same system, right? In the Audi, it will frequently not sync. one vehicle has different software and Audi cannot flash it. no worries on the Pioneer HU though.
TLDR -> Car companies suck, wha, wha, wha
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Thanks for the reply and your experiences. Speaking separately for all the tech they put into every aspect of the car...... I would figure that in 2012, these car companies and their stereos would learn their lesson and start to evolve. I guess we need a Uconnect forum on XDA to really get things heated up! If anyone knows of a site for ROMs and such for these systems, please let me know, I'm willing to take the plunge.
I had an aftermarket Kenwood in my 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee that I traded in. It synced with my phone perfectly, downloaded all my contacts, but didn't have the ability to read SMS messages (it also had a tiny display). Bluetooth worked well, etc. it just became a real piece of **** car that needed to be replaced.
The latest CM10 logs indicate that MAP functionality was fixed on 11/23: http://mobile.cm10log.appspot.com/?device=d2spr
I really wish that the CM10 camera and data connectivity didn't have so many issues, otherwise this would be a non-point and I'd be happy as can be with full functionality. What I find troubling is how many opinions there are about these different car systems and their compatibility. I understand your point about Bluetooth standards being quite a jumble. You should be required to support them all if you are going to use it in your device. I'm going to back to dual booting CM10 to see if I can get the MAP to work with the Uconnect system.
Then there's the confusion of all these systems. I have read links where a Stock Sprint SGS3 running 4.1.1 worked perfectly with MAP in a toyota prius. You ask Samsung and they say that MAP is not supported by the SGS3, their fact sheets would indicate the protocol is missing. But it was supposedly included in Android 4.1.1, but no one can confirm that.
It's just very disappointing when a company touts a technologically advanced car that can do things like read your SMS messages, display album artwork for songs, play songs from USB sticks, has ipod connectivity, etc. Can't seem to A) do any of those things well and B) offer absolutely ZERO tutorials and guidelines for making the above features actually work. You have to sift through forums to find out that a USB drive needs to be FAT32 formatted!
I just added 26.5GB worth of music to my HDD in my Uconnect 430 RBZ. I ensured that the album artwork was correctly linked with the ID3 tags in all of my music, a painstaking venture to say the least that I was meaning to do for a long time, however NO artwork actually shows up. It did finally all sync over and there are some things that it does "well" but far more that just miss the mark for no other reason than laziness and profitability. Just saying you can do these things is more profitable than actually making them work consistently - OR having knowledgeable people that can help you when you call in.
Overall, I guess I should be happy that it does what it does in the least. I understand the product cycles for cars and the tech is most likely 2-5 years old. Like everything else in this world, hopefully they'll improve their cycle time for updates. Then again, out of sight, out of mind. They have your money, who cares if they add any new functionality. Most cars aren't impulse buys like phones tend to be.
You can use any camera it does not have to be the cm camera. You can flash the stock or the 4.2 or even the note2 camera.apk. Also you xan flash your uconnect with a new firmware
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[Q] N7.2 as bluetooth hands-free in vehicle?

Hi all,
New to xda-developers and after watching the n00b video I was a little hesitant to post however I searched & rang my mother as I was advised in the video.
Now my question is, Seeing as the N7 & N7.2 is such a popular device to install into a vehicle as a head unit/on-board computer replacement I was wondering if there were any plans on a Bluetooth hands-free application of sorts with the correct profiles.
I have an iPhone5 cellular phone & would LOVE to pair it to my N7.2 and use the N7.2 as a Hands-free device with my contact list/phone dialler etc.
I know the Parrot Asteroid Smart has this capability, But have not found anyone with a little more knowledge attempting to move the cert & install the software on another device with the required drivers etc.
I am running CyanogenMod 10.2 nightly on my N7.2 so I have USB-DAC working but would love this ability or help to achieve this.
Thanks Heps
FD
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Does anyone have any HFP working?

Bluetooth Controller

Hi guys, I hope you can help.
I recently brought and installed A Pumpkin 10.1 unit (rk3188).
Ive managed to get Malaysk's custom rom installed but my issue is that i dont have steering wheel controls so i brought a satechi media button. (Because im a new user i cant post a link)
The thing is i can get the unit to find it but it will not connect to it. Could it be a bluetooth name limitation on the unit? is there a work around?
Thank you for your time guys.
Kris
I'm having the same issue... I think its temporal issue, I will update to 23 april rom...
Cool. Let me know how you get on.
The only BT devices that are supported are OBDII readers and Phones (for phonebook sharing, calls and media streaming). No other devices will work (media controllers, gamepads, etc).
That's a shame. I need to look at another work around. Thank you for the info
Is there any way around to connect to non OBDII devices via rooting and using xposed framework
I'm looking for a way for this to happen as well. Just purchased an iSimple remote for my Joying head unit. Lo-and-behold it doesn't work because... reasons? How hard is it for the programmers to allow a remote device use media controls while any other android unit will allow this?

Peugeot 208 Full mirroring/Android Auto

Evening all,
I recently acquired a 2016 Peugeot 208 - Much to my dismay however it only supports Apple Carplay and mirrorlink, which is not ideal for me as a Samsung S7 edge user with the advent of Android Auto as the very superior UX.
Whilst mirrorlink works for the odd app I find it all in all useless and so for now I just have my phone mounted below the head unit using the android auto UI on my phone.
Peugeot have iced the cake by telling me that they can't add Android Auto functionality to my head unit in February when they release the new 208s with it, which strikes me as ridiculous given it has a USB interface which means if it can run Apple Carplay it should be able to run Android Auto (if someone can confirm this for me just so I know I'm not being stupid that'd be great as I'm going to go and push them in the garage in February if I dont hear otherwise).
After quite some googling I have come across nothing: Does anyone have a way to completely mirror the screen of my android phone to the head unit of my car, or alternatively make it so Android Auto is miraculously supported by Mirrorlink? The wonders of rocksound appears to have been patched since it immediately recognises I'm trying to access my home screen and tells me it is not supported. For now I'm stuck either with my phone mounted or alternatively plugging an old iPhone in and tethering it, but that's not ideal given I want all my notifications etc, plus Android is just better anyway. I considered ripping out the entire head unit and putting an entire new one in but that's impractical and expensive.
If anyone has any input on this (or a link to something I've missed explaining how to fully mirror it) it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Try this MirrorLink Samsung How-to
shaggyxda said:
Try this
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Thanks - that seems to partially work, however I am finding that whenever I interact with anything within for example android auto, or when I try to launch an app, the smeg says that the application is not supported and I have to reselect LG mirrordrive to keep going (the same happens when starting voice control since presumably the launching of the google now overlay that triggers it) - okay whilst Im sitting still but a touch impractical for when Im driving. It's certainly a decent workaround for now, however if there's something I can change that will make it either so it doesnt error with every app being opened or an alternative, that would be much appreciated.
Cheers
I'm so sorry .It was worth trying. This works at Honda, VW, Skoda und SEAT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/connected-car/phone-mirroring-mirrorlink-t3485908
With ROOT permissions, you can try this Samsung
blaz1ng said:
the smeg says that the application is not supported
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Video How-to Step 3?
blaz1ng said:
Evening all,
I recently acquired a 2016 Peugeot 208 - Much to my dismay however it only supports Apple Carplay and mirrorlink, which is not ideal for me as a Samsung S7 edge user with the advent of Android Auto as the very superior UX.
Whilst mirrorlink works for the odd app I find it all in all useless and so for now I just have my phone mounted below the head unit using the android auto UI on my phone.
Peugeot have iced the cake by telling me that they can't add Android Auto functionality to my head unit in February when they release the new 208s with it, which strikes me as ridiculous given it has a USB interface which means if it can run Apple Carplay it should be able to run Android Auto (if someone can confirm this for me just so I know I'm not being stupid that'd be great as I'm going to go and push them in the garage in February if I dont hear otherwise).
After quite some googling I have come across nothing: Does anyone have a way to completely mirror the screen of my android phone to the head unit of my car, or alternatively make it so Android Auto is miraculously supported by Mirrorlink? The wonders of rocksound appears to have been patched since it immediately recognises I'm trying to access my home screen and tells me it is not supported. For now I'm stuck either with my phone mounted or alternatively plugging an old iPhone in and tethering it, but that's not ideal given I want all my notifications etc, plus Android is just better anyway. I considered ripping out the entire head unit and putting an entire new one in but that's impractical and expensive.
If anyone has any input on this (or a link to something I've missed explaining how to fully mirror it) it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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I'm in a very similar (worse) situation as you are. I have a Nexus 6P, which doesn't even support MirrorLink... only Android Auto. And my 208 has CarPlay and MirrorLink, but no Android Auto .
Is this true, that the new 2017 models have the Android Auto installed? We should see which SMEG unit and version 2017 models have installed... the 2016 model has a SMEG IV2 unit and software versions starting with 6.x.x.x (my current installed version is 6.1.D.R8).
I found a 6.3.C.R11 update on the internet, but i'm not sure if it includes the Android Auto.
I have a 2017 model and a htc one m8s. The idea behind android auto is fantastic - unfortunately, my phone keeps disconnecting and rendering the google maps redundant after 4 mins driving! I think this is probably my phone's fault, but I am interested to see that others are having trouble....
I have a 2017 rental 208, but it doesn't even launch android auto. It completely fails to detect IT. Using a Nexus 6P
TurboX2 said:
I have a 2017 rental 208, but it doesn't even launch android auto. It completely fails to detect IT. Using a Nexus 6P
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Could you let us know what SMEG version you are running? Then we can try to update our older 208s to it
Works for me. With the right cable.
My reply comes a little late, but might help others coming here with the same problem...
I got my 2017 Peugot 208 yesterday and one of the first things, I tried, was connecting it to my phone(s). Although the manual only says, it supported Apple Carplay and Android Mirrorlink, I can confirm, that it also supports Android Auto. At first, it didn't work for me. I had to use 6 different USB cables, until I found one, it worked with.
With the first cable, it tried to connect, but before I even had a chance to press OK, the dialog disappeared. The phone showed a android auto communication error 16.
With the next four cables, nothing happend. Neither on the car display, nor on the phone. Manually opening the Android Auto app, didn't help either. It only showed it on the phone.
When I was already about to give up, I tried one last cable, that I brought to the car with me. It was a very short one (about 15 cm) from Aukey. With that cable, it worked like a charm. I could confirm the dialog on the car display and instantly saw Android Auto after that.
Later, I found this article: productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-auto/LV5HsOjkPyI/MlyOoBoPBAAJ. It seems to be a common problem and in that article, you can find a list of cables, that are supposed to work. One good idea seems to be to use the original usb cable, that came with your phone. I tried that today and it worked right away. It's a Samsung cable in my case (connected to a Galaxy S7 running SuperMan Mod). Here is a link to the cable together with a charger: amazon.de/Samsung-ETA-U90EWE-Ladeger%C3%A4t-Netzadapter-DatenKabel-Wei%C3%9F/dp/B01E9G4IHG/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1514492334&sr=1-6&keywords=original+samsung+micro+usb+kabel&linkCode=ll1&tag=yammade-21&linkId=237d676f3199eb607c4e07f09e3fdafb" (Note: I linked to the one with the charger, because this one has good ratings. There are a lot of fake cables on amazon with poor ratings.)
I didn't have a lot of luck with cables from Aukey amazon.de/Ladekabel-Datenkabel-Samsung-Android-Smartphones-Wei%C3%9F/dp/B00TALGDMO/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1514491813&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=aukey+usb+kabel+wei%C3%9F+5+st%C3%BCck&linkCode=ll1&tag=yammade-21&linkId=9101b8f12129b7290ece34d35a4f27db". But at least one in four worked, so in case you're desperate, you might give them a try...
Btw, Apple Carplay works too. I used a third party cable and it connected instantly without any problems.
PS: I'm not allowed to post real links, because I'm new in the forums.
Hi everyone,
I'm on the same problem than you, I got a 2016 208 with SMEG+IV2 and sadly just like you, android auto is not supported.
Since i'm French I may have found more infos about why and how in French forums.
So basically since february 2017, 208, and most likely all the new Peugeot cars, have a different head unit NAC (Navigation Audio Connectée; Connected Audio Navigation). Which has a better touch screen quality, firmware, buttons and so on. There is no more useless mirrorlink but Android Auto just like Apple Car.
That was my bad when (2 months ago when I recieved my car) I found out that the car I bought was 6 months too old.
I tried to contact Peugeot's staff, they told me they had no idea about if we could replace the head unit to the newest (physically), but they will "keep an eye on the situation and come back to me" ... still no feedback, and even if it was possible, I think it would be hard to find a dealer that would know how to do it.
Anyway that's what I know. (Tried my best to explain).
Hi,
I have the same situation and my local service doesn't know it either. Does anyone have any news?
Thanks.
NeO_ReVoLuTiOn89 said:
Hi,
I have the same situation and my local service doesn't know it either. Does anyone have any news?
Thanks.
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In Brazil only Peugeot cars from 2017/2018 have this new Head Unit. I have a 2017/2017 and I can only work with Mirror Link which is fine at the moment. I can work with all apps I want, the only thing is the microphone. I can't seem to make it work on specific applications suck as the search for google maps, or the microphone on the Android Auto App from the phone.
Though if I make a phone call it will work just fine. Strangely enough.
I have 208 2013mod and a oneplus 5t. can my smartphone mirror with my cars display? whick way can I do this? pleaee for your help
Pangadaywalker said:
In Brazil only Peugeot cars from 2017/2018 have this new Head Unit. I have a 2017/2017 and I can only work with Mirror Link which is fine at the moment. I can work with all apps I want, the only thing is the microphone. I can't seem to make it work on specific applications suck as the search for google maps, or the microphone on the Android Auto App from the phone.
Though if I make a phone call it will work just fine. Strangely enough.
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Hey man, sou do brasil tbm, e tenho um 17/17 208 gt, como vc fez pra usar o mirrorlink? tenho um samsung A7 2017 mas não funcionou irmão, pode me dar uma dica? segue meu whats 47-988394884
I have a 2016 208 and I'm using a carlinkit 4 to get android auto before this my car wouldn't run android auto as far as I can tell it pushes it through the carplay software

Nexus 7 2013 as Audio Head Unit - Best Current Solutions?

I’m currently in the process of replacing my car’s audio head with my 2013 Nexus 7 and I’d like to know what current options there are for any ROM/app solutions since all the threads that I found on this topic were from 2016 and earlier.
I personally don’t need Android Auto integration (at least I think I don’t) and I’d like to keep my phone operational while I’m driving anyway. What I’d want would be the ability to connect phonecalls and music as well as sync the navigation. FM radio would be a nice bonus. However of course feel free to write/link anything relevant to the topic.
I have a n7 2013 as my head unit. have had one for years. Timur's 6.0.1 version is still the go-to for that as far as I know. Check reddit.
How i have it is the tablet connects via bluetooth to a JL Audio MBT-RX, then that feeds into the Alpine KTP445U which feeds the speakers.
I use my phone's hotspot and connect the tablet to that and I run youtube vanced so i can listen to any song i want without commercials.
I know this is a few months late but hopefully this helps you or someone else in the future. It's by far my favorite mod in my car as it's something i use daily.
https://imgur.com/a/dzldqEI

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