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I'm an idiot who accidentally dropped my Kindle glass-side down in a parking lot. I went to get it replaced but my brand of Kindle Fire happened to be discontinued and I had to shell out $50 for a Kindle Fire HD. My old Kindle had already been rooted so I knew finding a way to root an HD would be a pain. He's the thing, for a while my Kindle would connect like a media device to my Windows 7 PC but now for some reason the thing doesn't crop up at all. What is wrong with my brand new Kindle Fire HD and why can't I do something as simple as connect it to my PC via usb?
Nothing wrong really. At least I guess so. Same thing happened to my friend with Windows 7 Acer laptop and brand new perfectly working Kindle Fire 2nd gen. It was some weird problem with his Windows's drivers. I connected his kindle to my laptop where the drivers were ok, rooted it, installed recovery and android and after that the kindle started working with the PC once again-most probably that happened because according to the PC the android and the kindle are different devices or maybe it was because they use different drivers(but I highly doubt this). Either case this is a fix. Another one would be to reinstall your PC. There may be another fix that will make the drivers working once again but we tried many suggestions in the net and none worked. Hope I helped
Does your kindle actually show up in the device manager?
Sorry I didn't respond faster. It turned out to be faulty drivers. Now the problem is that the Kindle is refusing to root. I keep getting "Permission Denied" when I try to execute the root. The Kindle Fire HD has really annoying software and I can't do anything I want to do. Amazon can seriously suck my grapes! (And all the grapes in my house are rotten)
Xamrin said:
Sorry I didn't respond faster. It turned out to be faulty drivers. Now the problem is that the Kindle is refusing to root. I keep getting "Permission Denied" when I try to execute the root. The Kindle Fire HD has really annoying software and I can't do anything I want to do. Amazon can seriously suck my grapes! (And all the grapes in my house are rotten)
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Your grapes are rotten? You should probably have that checked out.
What are you using to root your device?
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Your grapes are rotten? You should probably have that checked out.
What are you using to root your device?
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A method I found on YouTube. It worked until the final part when I got constant permission denial messages.
I'd link you to it but I'm a new user and am not allowed to. But I can tell you it's the first result on YouTube when you search "how to root kindle fire hd". It's by a user named reverendkjr.
(Update: My sister has a classic Kindle so I'm trading with her)
I have rooted a few phones here and there but this is the first time I will be trying to root a fire tv. I have the box, not the stick and so far from what I understand I will be able to root this version with the ethernet trick. That is all I know, I dont know how to perform this trick for one, let alone the steps I need to perform afterwards. Here is some information I have.
Hardware Revision: 03
Software Revision:02
Likely software: 51.1.0.1 or 51.1.0.2
I plugged it in and it said it was updating but I didnt let it get anywhere near finishing the software download before unplugging it and stopping it. So here are some questions. After I get root, will I have to flash a custom rom like I would a phone? Will I still be able to use the original apps like netflix or will I have to do everything through XBMC? Is there really a way to watch theatre release movies or is this just a scam people try to use to get money from others?
Same problem for me heres my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/root-help-to-device-t3017428#post58541250 maybe you can find something there
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I have rooted a few phones here and there but this is the first time I will be trying to root a fire tv. I have the box, not the stick and so far from what I understand I will be able to root this version with the ethernet trick. That is all I know, I dont know how to perform this trick for one, let alone the steps I need to perform afterwards. Here is some information I have.
Hardware Revision: 03
Software Revision:02
Likely software: 51.1.0.1 or 51.1.0.2
I plugged it in and it said it was updating but I didnt let it get anywhere near finishing the software download before unplugging it and stopping it. So here are some questions. After I get root, will I have to flash a custom rom like I would a phone? Will I still be able to use the original apps like netflix or will I have to do everything through XBMC? Is there really a way to watch theatre release movies or is this just a scam people try to use to get money from others?
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If you got to the registration screen you should be good but I'd go to aftvnews and read the starters guide. Also, what made you stop? Most people go as fast as they can to get the process started fearing Amazon might find a way to update.
Your first step should've been to block Amazon domains on your router. Did you?
Since you got to registration screen, you should be able to check the exact firmware.
In all likelihood you'll need to downgrade (follow that guide closely) Youll need cwm and will be using rbox firmware. Everything looks identical to stock (Netflix, prime, Amazon apps) Unless you decide to change it.
But seriously, I'll bet you find this trickier than your phones so read closely. I bought my 2nd aftv last month and the process was way more complicated than it was in June. But pay attention and double check your steps and you'll be ok.
Go here and follow the root guide. WWW.aftvnews.com
Whatever you do do not let the update go thru. There, you will also be instructed how to block the update from your wifi router and also prominently disable the update going forward.
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Go here and follow the root guide. WWW.aftvnews.com
Whatever you do do not let the update go thru. There, you will also be instructed how to block the update from your wifi router and also prominently disable the update going forward.
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Thanks I was just about to buy a fire tv from staples and was wondering does the firmware matter at this point
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Thanks I was just about to buy a fire tv from staples and was wondering does the firmware matter at this point
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I just got a second unit yesterday - did the Ethernet unplug trick. USB storage is essential IMHO, so rooting is the only way to go.
I had the extra step of rolling back firmware, but it only took an extra 20 mins. I don't have a USB keyboard, so using putty on my laptop emulating a keyboard was also an extra step. I didn't do rboxs boot menu, don't really have a need yet?
Just unplug your internet from your router so you still can adb around on your local - no worries about updating while you fool around. Just make sure to have all the files local first - can block updates via adbfire or ftv toolbox whatever.
what are the advantages of rooting?
from what i understand without root we can stil install xmbc and playstore and apps
cpugeeker said:
what are the advantages of rooting?
from what i understand without root we can stil install xmbc and playstore and apps
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Main advantages are probably:
1. using the usb port for external storage since the ftv has such limited internal memory
2. being able to install the play store.
3. Enabling different launchers to react to the home button
This is tangential to the OP, but for me the remote management of an FTV is invaluable. I manage 6 FTVs now remotely with WebKey. Two days back, they send me 2 FTVs to upgrade (one old at the 51.1.1) and one brand new. They paid $15 bucks to ship and I paid the same for the return. Now, I don't have to pay that and avoid that cost (if not updating core OS/Bios stuff). That is a real dollar saving.
The point about Google Play is very true, not just for flexibility of installing, but also for using apps you already paid for (I would imagine that majority of paid apps do licence checking through Play infrastructure). That is a real dollar saving.
Using cheaper game controllers instead of buying OEM is a real dollar saving.
Creative uses of FTV like running a wireless router on it for non-intensive stuff is a real dollar saving. I am sure there are other creative ways to use it (with root) that talented people do without that information in public domain.
You need to extract real value out of your time to root. For some, its cost saving. For some, its ease of use. For some, it is the satisfaction of putting one over Amazon. For some, it is the value of learning about Linux/Android.
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This is tangential to the OP, but for me the remote management of an FTV is invaluable. I manage 6 FTVs now remotely with WebKey.
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When you say manage remotely, do you mean remote control they way LogMeIn and TeamViewer work?
I am not aware of the two apps you mentioned. But Webkey is a true Remote Desktop for Android. Once you log in from a browser into your FTV (local or remote, HTTP or HTTPS), you see the exact screen of your FTV mirrored in your browser. And you interact with it as if you were sitting in front of it. Basically, what you see is what you get. Other added benefits are push/pull files, run apps with one click, a terminal emulator (all done through your browser) and a virtual text entry box that you can type in and send your blob of text to the FTV to whatever apps/controls are in focus and waiting for input.
downgrade help
Hey guys,
Hoping to get some help. New to Android and AFTV but I feel like I've made it pretty far. I'm stuck on downgrading my 51.1.1.0 Firmware to 51.1.0.2_user_510058520. I'm specifically confused on step 9 below... I make it that far and I don't know much about echo.. I type the line exactly as shown, after hitting enter, I get the command prompt again (no acknowledgment - success or error message, do I assume it worked?)
when I continue on to step 12 and try to push the update.zip file I get "cannot start update.zip : No such file or directory". I'm on a MAC so the c: instructions don't help me. How do I tell terminal where to get the update.zip file from?
Thanks guys.
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I am not aware of the two apps you mentioned. But Webkey is a true Remote Desktop for Android. Once you log in from a browser into your FTV (local or remote, HTTP or HTTPS), you see the exact screen of your FTV mirrored in your browser. And you interact with it as if you were sitting in front of it. Basically, what you see is what you get. Other added benefits are push/pull files, run apps with one click, a terminal emulator (all done through your browser) and a virtual text entry box that you can type in and send your blob of text to the FTV to whatever apps/controls are in focus and waiting for input.
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Hey guys, new to the forum.... sideloaded the Settings.apk last night and was able to pair a motorolla BT mouse no problem. Used it all last night.
Came home today and the Fire TV was frozen, so I reset it, now the mouse isn't connecting.
When I go into the Settings app, it still shows it in the list but it doesn't say 'Connected' under the name like it does for the Fire remote.
Clicking on it in the list does nothing. I wish there was some way to tell it to forget that device but I'm not seeing any way.
I've tried uninstalling the Settings.apk but when I reinstall, the mouse is still listed as a device that has already been recognized.
I've checked the mouse batteries, and even took it upstairs and paired it with my computer to make sure it still worked.
Any ideas on how I can get it back?
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PS Mods - Sorry for posting this in two forums, I think the first post was not placed in the right area to get help.
The only thing that helped me (for the stick though) was doing a factory reset. After that I could add it back and connect.
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Hey guys, new to the forum.... sideloaded the Settings.apk last night and was able to pair a motorolla BT mouse no problem. Used it all last night.
Came home today and the Fire TV was frozen, so I reset it, now the mouse isn't connecting.
When I go into the Settings app, it still shows it in the list but it doesn't say 'Connected' under the name like it does for the Fire remote.
Clicking on it in the list does nothing. I wish there was some way to tell it to forget that device but I'm not seeing any way.
I've tried uninstalling the Settings.apk but when I reinstall, the mouse is still listed as a device that has already been recognized.
I've checked the mouse batteries, and even took it upstairs and paired it with my computer to make sure it still worked.
Any ideas on how I can get it back?
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You must press on the bluetooth icon on the right side next to the name of your mouse, then you will have the option to unpair your mouse, and then you can pair it again.
To do so, you must install an app on your android phone which is called Wukong Remote, and use the touchpad mode, which will act like your mouse and then you can do the steps and unpair your mouse.
I had kinda the same problem, but it was with a USB mouse. I used the mouse for about a week, then the Fire TV froze, and the mouse never connected again. Not only did it not connect, it would not connect to any other device I have either. When I put the dongle in my PC it shows there is a dongle, but the firmware for the dongle was somehow erased. It has never happened to any other donlges I have, but I still worry that it could.
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The only thing that helped me (for the stick though) was doing a factory reset. After that I could add it back and connect.
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Yeah i'm afraid that's what's going to have to happen
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You must press on the bluetooth icon on the right side next to the name of your mouse, then you will have the option to unpair your mouse, and then you can pair it again.
To do so, you must install an app on your android phone which is called Wukong Remote, and use the touchpad mode, which will act like your mouse and then you can do the steps and unpair your mouse.
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I would def. try this if I had an android phone, but I have an iPhone. Been looking for a mouse app for it but haven't had much luck.
Yes, doing factory reset was painful. But I learned my lesson, I don't unpair my BT keyboard/mouse from the stick or try to use it with any other device.
Also, not really answering your Q, but you can install the Amazon FTV app on your iPhone ( https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/amazon-fire-tv-remote/id947984433 ) and use that to toggle your BT settings (I tried that and it didn't help me). Its an option if you don't want to use a third party app (you can also send commands for control selection in your FTV for movements through adb, AFTVNews.com has a guide)
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Hey guys, new to the forum.... sideloaded the Settings.apk last night and was able to pair a motorolla BT mouse no problem. Used it all last night.
Came home today and the Fire TV was frozen, so I reset it, now the mouse isn't connecting.
When I go into the Settings app, it still shows it in the list but it doesn't say 'Connected' under the name like it does for the Fire remote.
Clicking on it in the list does nothing. I wish there was some way to tell it to forget that device but I'm not seeing any way.
I've tried uninstalling the Settings.apk but when I reinstall, the mouse is still listed as a device that has already been recognized.
I've checked the mouse batteries, and even took it upstairs and paired it with my computer to make sure it still worked.
Any ideas on how I can get it back?
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I bought a BT mouse but it was very slow and not accurate on my fire tv stick. It worked well on my phone and pc.
Does your mouse work good on the fire tv?
I've got 4-5 AFTV's set up in my house running XBMC Gotham with a custom skin connected to my LAN serving content off of my NAS. Family loves it.
Want to put one in the car. So...
No network connection
XBMC Gotham
2TB HDD connected to USB port
Can this be done? IE use a FTV without a network connection?, connect a 2TB drive? (I can connect huge drives to my in-house, non-rooted FTV's)
Should I root this box or let it update and will it act like the ones I have in house? I put FiredTV app on the ones in the house to jump to a menu where I can quickly start XBMC. Is there a better way with rooting?
Is there a good resource I should go to to find out about these things?
Thanks for the help.
Roveer
Not sure about this,
but I would think that it will work fine without network connection if you only use the XBMC/Kodi app.
So no root required.
Without a network connection, I think you just get the KFTV Launcher with a lot of blank spots. That is, no complaining popups or crashes.
Even without root, you can use FireStarter to launch Kodi automatically. Root would give you more options as far as using Kodi / SPMC as a launcher replacement, more drive mounting options, and Google Play store.
How are you mounting and reading data off of the hard drive? How is it formatted? I'm only networked, but hooked up a USB 32GB SSD to replace the internal storage. I see that you can use a FAT32 formatted drive for Kodi, but files larger than 4GB need to be in a split RAR archive.
Depending on what firmware the AFTV is on already, or whether it was allowed to update, that may determine whether you can successfully root. Here's the AFTVnews Rooting Starter's Guide.
If you can root, I would do it. You regain control of your device, nothing happens without your approval, and you gain abilities to install and alter things to improve the device that you own.
Also, you may want to look into updating Kodi, as yours is a few versions behind (13 vs. 15.2 stable) - just make sure your skins and add-ons have been updated for use with Isengard.
I would root it and unlock the BL to make it more useful when/if amazon stops adding cool stuff to it.
So I started following the guide that was posted, did all the domain blocking and was having good success. Got to the registration part and the FTV would NOT accept my id & pw. I did some searching and it seems like this device is not registered in Amazon's system. It was strange that when I first booted it it was displaying setup instructions in both english and dutch so I'm guessing this was some sort of export device. I've emailed Amazon support with my MAC address's (as suggested in another post of others having the same problem), and I'll see what I get back. Now, if someone here knows something that I don't, please share.
Thanks,
Roveer
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So I started following the guide that was posted, did all the domain blocking and was having good success. Got to the registration part and the FTV would NOT accept my id & pw. I did some searching and it seems like this device is not registered in Amazon's system. It was strange that when I first booted it it was displaying setup instructions in both english and dutch so I'm guessing this was some sort of export device. I've emailed Amazon support with my MAC address's (as suggested in another post of others having the same problem), and I'll see what I get back. Now, if someone here knows something that I don't, please share.
Thanks,
Roveer
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It's German, not dutch. There is no American/Intl version, they are all the same. But I believe the ones that shipped with the software that presented german and english aren't rootable. @AFTVnews.com is that correct?
German aTV´s had been delivered with a non-rootable firmware from the beginning. I have one aTV of the first batch (day 1 order) and couldn´t root it due to being preprogrammed with the newest firmware at this time which was already the first unrootable version.
When I started the setup it asked me which language and displayed english and dutch but I guess it was in german. I went back to the ebay listing and found that it did not say it was rootable like I had said so I must have been mistaken. Doesn't really matter to me as I'm going to sideload kodi and can use firedtv as my kind of launcher. It doesn't always work, but the family is used to this configuration. I'm going to try and root it just in case I made some sort of mistake. But at this point I can't get past the id/pw stage so I'm going to need Amazon's help. The responded to my email saying I have to call or chat to get further help.
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rbox said:
It's German, not dutch. There is no American/Intl version, they are all the same. But I believe the ones that shipped with the software that presented german and english aren't rootable. @AFTVnews.com is that correct?
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Correct. Version 51.1.3.0 was the first software version to include german language option and those are not rootable.
Seeing a language prompt when you first power on a Fire TV is the best way to know if it's not rootable without having to go through the initial setup and get to the home screen to check the software version.
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Correct. Version 51.1.3.0 was the first software version to include german language option and those are not rootable.
Seeing a language prompt when you first power on a Fire TV is the best way to know if it's not rootable without having to go through the initial setup and get to the home screen to check the software version.
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So this particular unit which came out of a sealed box refused to register. It just kept saying Sign-in failed. A search of the web produced others with the same problem and a resolution of Amazon having to register the device in their system. Tech support was unwilling to trouble shoot beyond making me do a reset and decided to send me a new unit. When I went back to the eBay auction that I bought it from they had changed the listing and it no longer sayd "rootable". Fortunatly eBay showed me in my purchase history that the listing had been changed and saves the original listing. It clearly said that the unit was rootable. The seller gave me 10 bucks back. I could have fought, I could have returned it, but that would just cause more frustration.
So my hope of getting a rootable unit is pretty much gone. Maybe I'll grab one when everyone wants a 4k gen2. For what I'm trying to do, I can live with a non rootable which is what I have on all my other TV's.
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So friend gave me a FireTV Stick, brand new (Fire OS 5.2.6.3 (606754020), Fire TV Home Version 6.0.0.6-127).
Little desire to deal with Amazon, need to enable USB Debugging & ADB. Gotten as far as Fire App on Phone to bypass Registration to get to Settings-Device-Options, held Center/Down to Enable X-Ray, Developer Options Hidden Menu etc, but can not find any way to Access USB Debugging or ADB to enable them. When you enable Developer Options, only thing it does is give option clear Recorded Metrics whatever. Enabled it, rebooted, disabled it rebooted, re-enabled etc etc, only option I get is to clear recorded metrics.
Tried several diff ways, nothing can recognize it ADB as I can't enable it, tried USB to PC, it recognizes FireTV Stick, can see whats on the Drive or SD Card, but again, can't send files to it without USB Debugging. Rooted every Android Toy I own, not new to this, but has me stumped.
How do you enable USB Debugging or ADB to a FireTV Stick with latest OS without ever Registering it? As far as Normal stuff, it hooks to Network fine (behind Firewall & VPN), but won't Update, why if you go with the Fire App on phone, you can "pair" and get as far as Option to Access Hidden Developer Options etc, but no USB Debugging or ADB Enable Option is there.
Never messed with one, was more a sort of Gag Gift for a favor he owed me, so said why not, lets see what all the fuss over these things is, I wanna tinker with it.
You can always de-register the device from your Amazon dashboard after setting it up for the first time.
I remember reading in another post, someone describing the exact same situation.
Using the app to skip registration and discovering there was no option to enable adb debugging.
Sounds like they may have fixed that.
I noticed in 5.2.6.3 the same security feature Amazon has implemented to detour people from buying and selling blacklisted devices. I have spent more time than I would like to admit trying to find a loophole, but without the ability to enable abd and unknown sources it seems impossible. I hate to say this but Amazon has it locked down and if anyone could figure it out they would have to someone on xda but no one I know has jad a clue. I don't condone theft one bit, but love a challenge and this one has me stumped.
Well, part of the fun, lol. Voice in my head keeps saying the Fire App, has to be a way, but not seeing it as yet. Did read where someone built a special HDMI setup and over loaded the OS, prompting a a "bootloader" screen and got in that way somehow, but far beyond me and said the parts to build it were like $150, let alone knowing what to solder to what etc, beyond my capabilities.
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Well, part of the fun, lol. Voice in my head keeps saying the Fire App, has to be a way, but not seeing it as yet. Did read where someone built a special HDMI setup and over loaded the OS, prompting a a "bootloader" screen and got in that way somehow, but far beyond me and said the parts to build it were like $150, let alone knowing what to solder to what etc, beyond my capabilities.
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Honestly its fun and has also become consuming trying to find any way to get past each screen lol. I heard the same voice in the past and it worked lol. Now with these 5.2.6.3 2nd gen firesticks I have no way to get to Dev options and with the 4k firesticks it says my login is incorrect to Amazon, and as I previously mentioned I am pretty much out of ideas. Overload HDMI huh? Sounds interesting. Well back to the drawing board for now and If I learn anything I will let you know.
Well, Fire App in my head, dont know why, just keeps coming back to me. Not a programmer, not a Droid, Hacker type, but thinking this way, feel free to tell me Nope, won't work and this is why.
How does it pair with FTV Stick etc? Not Bluetooth etc, so how does it connect? Possible to take Fire App and tinker with code, add some/modify code or a script etc to modify it and get further into FTV OS 5?
Or thinking again, don't know, but seems with a Laptop on say WiFi Network, just like Droid, Iphone, with a Virtual Machine, know Virtual Box you can set up about any Android setup ya want.
So setup a Virtual Machine, tinker with Fire App in some way, and if Laptop can connect to FTV , well, just idea in my head that must be away to get around it, or at least with a Laptop would open many more options to try & beat it. Havent tried this yet, just keeps floating around in my head, may not even connect to a Virtual Machine, maybe over weekend I'll tinker with that a bit.
Somebody who programs etc would know far more on topic, but same idea keeps bouncing around in my mind. Could be dead wrong, maybe they have that locked down to, but guys here, well, how many "can't hack" toys have they already beat, lol.
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Well, Fire App in my head, dont know why, just keeps coming back to me. Not a programmer, not a Droid, Hacker type, but thinking this way, feel free to tell me Nope, won't work and this is why.
How does it pair with FTV Stick etc? Not Bluetooth etc, so how does it connect? Possible to take Fire App and tinker with code, add some/modify code or a script etc to modify it and get further into FTV OS 5?
Or thinking again, don't know, but seems with a Laptop on say WiFi Network, just like Droid, Iphone, with a Virtual Machine, know Virtual Box you can set up about any Android setup ya want.
So setup a Virtual Machine, tinker with Fire App in some way, and if Laptop can connect to FTV , well, just idea in my head that must be away to get around it, or at least with a Laptop would open many more options to try & beat it. Havent tried this yet, just keeps floating around in my head, may not even connect to a Virtual Machine, maybe over weekend I'll tinker with that a bit.
Somebody who programs etc would know far more on topic, but same idea keeps bouncing around in my mind. Could be dead wrong, maybe they have that locked down to, but guys here, well, how many "can't hack" toys have they already beat, lol.[/QUOTE=matafact;78395384]
I wish I knew how to use tasker. Im a newbie but your ideas are great and have me thinking the remote app is the key, but it is a task I do not know how to execute.
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