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The camera worse than S3 ?

I've noticed that some people complain about the poor quality of Note 2 photos.
http://www.iphones.ru/iNotes/253676
Is it true that camera worse than the Galaxy S3?

On an iPhone website, they won't tell you otherwise. Try a more objective source, like gsmarena and the likes...
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The Note II takes pretty amazing photos IMO.
Check this album out! http://www.flickr.com/photos/magnus3dphoto/8060042512/in/photostream/

does anybody know if samsung again used different cam modules in production?
at least with sgs2 there were 3 different manufacturers (and thus different firmwares), guess it would be the same here!
what i've seen so far is that the pink blob in the middle of the picture is almost gone, which is a huge improvement! don't
know if they fixed it with the firmware or hardware though...
update:
the second note2 i recieved today has a slightly pink blob, so what i can say the quality of the cams seem to differ in a same
way then the screens. one screen of my 2 units has yellow tint, the second one not!

I don't now but I didn't have pink spot in the middle of the camera any more with GN2.

forelli said:
On an iPhone website, they won't tell you otherwise. Try a more objective source, like gsmarena and the likes...
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It is just an example. And here S3 in better than iphone 5 and Note 2.

Oh God, why? iPhone website? Kidding right? The camera is just amazing!

I wouldn't say that the camera is amazing...but it's pretty good.

I confirm that the camera is worse than SIII. I had both phones and SIII dominates in terms of picture quality. Although Note 2 has better exposition handling than SIII.

Well can't say about S3 but I had S2 and I might sound weird but the camera on Note 2 is poorer, overall.
One would really need to be a fanboy to call this camera amazing or have no idea about the word amazing.
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Recently read a review (Anandtech maybe?) that included a comparison of Note II vs S III picture quality. They did blind judging (no, the judges wern't blind, lol) of photos and videos taken by both phones. They were indistinguishable to the reviewers.

I can definitely say the camera isn't too impressive with pictures. Although it's amazing with video.
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I have only iPhone4 so i can only compare with it. For the picture quality, iPhone4 still better than Note 2 imo. But iPhone4 doesn't have so many setting options like Note 2 has.

Hello,
Before i bought this phone was using Xperia S. Right now i can see well the value of my ex Xperia S. Because with its 12 MP camera that was possible to capture amazing photos without no blurry and noisy.
I have to confess that Note 2 does not have a good camera. I do not know about S3 but i know it is worse and worser than Xperia..

Me coming from a photon,evo 3d and many other phones and have used an s3, the camera quality is no different between the s3 and the note 2 as they use the same cameras, maybe you guys aren't use to seeing a picture this blown up on a screen like the note, and that's why you claim it's bad?
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Hi ..im comming from sony xperia s ..dont loved it cuz the battery was suck and camera [email protected] all ..more megapixel doesnt mean better photos...my sony hsd a 12mp and my note2 8..but...there is a huge different...the note is much bettery at all..i cant remember that my sony did something better than my note 2. Btw..i advice everybode note to flash his phone..sometimes stock gives you better experience...i flashed every rom and kernel on sony xps. ...i wont touch my note 2 with roms e.t.c.

A2CKilla said:
Me coming from a photon,evo 3d and many other phones and have used an s3, the camera quality is no different between the s3 and the note 2 as they use the same cameras, maybe you guys aren't use to seeing a picture this blown up on a screen like the note, and that's why you claim it's bad?
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No, at least I don't give a damn how it looks on the phone. I transfer the files as soon as I can to my PC and see it there. The Note 2 camera is a below average camera.
aloush5592 said:
Hi ..im comming from sony xperia s ..dont loved it cuz the battery was suck and camera [email protected] all ..more megapixel doesnt mean better photos...my sony hsd a 12mp and my note2 8..but...there is a huge different...the note is much bettery at all..i cant remember that my sony did something better than my note 2. Btw..i advice everybode note to flash his phone..sometimes stock gives you better experience...i flashed every rom and kernel on sony xps. ...i wont touch my note 2 with roms e.t.c.
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You're only right about megapixel thing. Xperia S has a WAY better camera than Note 2. My friend has one and I often borrow it from him.
(I'm a semi pro photographer btw.)
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Best foto for me have nokia 808, but Note2 has too good quality photo

Most reviews give the N2 the better pic quality over the S3...I have both so I took a few pics on both under same settings, both outdoor and indoor, and to my eye I see no difference in either one, both look great. I though they both had the same hardware camera wise anyway?

Post your camera fw, mine is ZKFI07, so it says about different camera modules.
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Our note 2 next to samsung's newest 'phablets' the "mega"

So I saw this article of size comparisons between phones, most notably the new Samsung phones named "mega" 5.8 and 6.3 respectively.
Does this mean that the note 3 is NOT going to be coming in the 6.3 flavor, and all the fuzz about the samsung bluetooth controller supporting "up-to 6.3" devices was just for this new "mega" phablet?
Look at the pics and tell me what you guys think.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Here...e-II-S4-and-other-popular-smartphones_id41779
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the galaxy note 2 is now officially a normal sized phone LOL but samsung ruined the 2 new phones by putting in dual core processors (we're not in 2011 anymore samsung)

It's more of a midrange note.. it doesn't matter to Samsung how they get their money
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Those are small Galaxy Tab 2 - 7 inchers. Not big phones.

I am quite comfortable with my more powerful Note 2 over those.
There is no way I can rock over a 6 " phone. I mean miles well just get the Note8.0 and call it a day...
We have to eventually have a boundary, lol!
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Yes I didn't want to compare the mega phones to ours, as ours has better specs, but I DID want to show what maybe a future note 3 might look like, in the sense that there was a probability that it would be 6.3 inches.
With that said, I used to think that 6.3 was not going to be much bigger than our phones, but looking at the pictures says otherwise. I am a big guy 6'1 and I don't think it would be practical to have such a big phone.
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I hope the Note 3 looks just like that. The 6.3" one. I think it looks awesome.

The manager at T-Mo said that the rumor is that the N3 will be 6.4 almost an inch bigger than the N2. She also said to expect it really soon in a couple of months...
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The Note 3 will be 6.5 in with OLED 1080p slim bezel, New s pen input octa core. Final designs and testing being complete. The Note 3 won't just be a bigger S4
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Depending on price and frequencies, I'd rock one as a small tablet on the TMobile $30 plan (using data only). It's a better price than any tablet plan. Worst case scenario it might work on the AT&T tablet plans. That's my backup if the TMobile plan gets pulled. I dislike voip but I dislike high bills even more.

I have my Nexus 7 got my tablet needs. No need to get any bigger of a phone. I already feel like a meathead walking around while talking on this phone. I couldn't imagine holding the 6.3 or rumored 6.4 Note. Just to big.
With that said, just get a Note, 8.0 that has built in phone capabilities.
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I feel like a meathead on my Note/get the Note 8.

Its too big the note 2 is the perfect size.
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-I- want to use it as a pocketable tablet. If I make a call on it now and then, so the dub what?
It's funny to read all the "omg yura doof" comments...

No bigger for me. I just want faster performance and a better radio.

hopefully next SGS N3 will have bigger battery & better body design. we all know, how android is when it come to power mngmnt. picture of mega phablet on post #1 looks like a SGS N2 that'd been photoshoped. back button inverted. anyway, will display res size 1080p make real difference in daily use for average joe with smartphone ?

I giggle with confusion when people comment about users who talk on "big" devices, I chuckle in dismay when said owners of "big" devices say they "feel funny" talking on such a big device ............
-_-
Walking into a bar I hear "Is that a Note 2..... you're crazy that thing is too big"
In my head I would say .... ".... and you're out of line. ...^_^"...
Instead I did them one even better. ...I continued using my device and completely ignored him, in fact this is the first time I'm making reference to his comment and this was 10/12..... him and others can have a _/.... so many hypocrites and malnourished credulous followers. How do you get off saying a device screen is "too small"... yet later a device is "too big".. those sentiments are fine. ..however you missed the most important piece. . "For you".... get it ? The perfect device for you may not be the same for you. ..perhaps there are individuals who rather talk on a 10.1 in screen, while you prefer a smaller screen, why is either party concerned about the others preference? ??????? Irrelevant. Why voluntarily get a device or partake in something then speak negative and offer complaints, nobody forced you to get this phone. ..^_^
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Really just makes me want a bigger Note. Now I just can't wait for the Note 3, since the Mega is a bit underpowered
noted for future reference on my Note 2

I prefer the larger screen on the Mega 6.3 but DPI is horrid. 1080P is a must these days. I don't mind the mid tier CPU since I don't game and prefer the longer battery life.

They didn't have a video, but the screen looks ok in the ubergizmo review's pictures.

Back in a phablet once again!!!

Well after a long hard 3 months using an Iphone4 after my dell Streak 5 bit the dust. I decided it was time for a new phone. My choices were either a MEGA or Note 2. I checked out both but to my surprise the mega didn't flow as nice as the Note. So I took it home with me and am now the proud owner of a Note 2:laugh:

Welcome to the GN2, enjoy your new toy!!:thumbup::thumbup:
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You made the right choice

Great choice. Love my GN2. Waiting for the GN3!
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AkumaMax said:
Well after a long hard 3 months using an Iphone4 after my dell Streak 5 bit the dust. I decided it was time for a new phone. My choices were either a MEGA or Note 2. I checked out both but to my surprise the mega didn't flow as nice as the Note. So I took it home with me and am now the proud owner of a Note 2:laugh:
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Any way you can return it? The note 3 event is sept 4 (tomorrow) you might want to look at that. The note two is a great device but if you bought it just now at on 2 year contract price then it was a mistake
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ayo234 said:
Any way you can return it? The note 3 event is sept 4 (tomorrow) you might want to look at that. The note two is a great device but if you bought it just now at on 2 year contract price then it was a mistake
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eh thats what my wifes upgrade is for. Anyway no 2 year agreement on it since I got hookups and I have 30 days to return if the note 3 does drop.

AkumaMax said:
eh thats what my wifes upgrade is for. Anyway no 2 year agreement on it since I got hookups and I have 30 days to return if the note 3 does drop.
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This phone rocks anyway..
Good community here, and I can't see it going anywhere anytime soon. Most people seem to be skipping the note 3 so I'd say our phone will still be relevant for quite some time

Note 3 is not my cup of tea. ..
That processor is gonna sound like a toilet flushing the battery. ..and the camera is lacking image stabilization. .
Leather black color looks odd. ...and 5.7 inches of display was a mistake. ..
Not to mention a guaranteed lock on the bootloader with endless exploit patches sure to come. ..
Sorry. ...I'll keep my rock solid note 2...at least another year. ..or until Sammy puts out the S5 active. ...
You did well getting a note 2...as it is a great device with great support and community. ..g
(All my opinion of course)...g
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Pulled the trigger this morning on the Note 3 in white (to go with my white galaxy gear!) yeah buddy

gregsarg said:
Note 3 is not my cup of tea. ..
That processor is gonna sound like a toilet flushing the battery. ..and the camera is lacking image stabilization. .
Leather black color looks odd. ...and 5.7 inches of display was a mistake. ..
Not to mention a guaranteed lock on the bootloader with endless exploit patches sure to come. ..
Sorry. ...I'll keep my rock solid note 2...at least another year. ..or until Sammy puts out the S5 active. ...
You did well getting a note 2...as it is a great device with great support and community. ..g
(All my opinion of course)...g
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The camera does have image stabilization...
Also the processor is more efficient, therefore battery life should be equivalent to ours currently.
"13MP Camera With Stabilization
The Galaxy Note 3 includes an upgraded 13MP camera that includes smart stabilization. This is Samsung’s optical image stabilization which will make photos look better thanks to advanced technology. Users also have access to a host of camera modes found on the Galaxy S4 including Dual Shot."

You said it, the note 2 isn't going anywhere the devolpment is just getting started and I've got the vzw note 2 and use the at&t Sim and both fourm s are great ! Lots of love to tha note 2
note 2 funktified

crixley said:
"13MP Camera With Stabilization
The Galaxy Note 3 includes an upgraded 13MP camera that includes smart stabilization. This is Samsung’s optical image stabilization which will make photos look better thanks to advanced technology. Users also have access to a host of camera modes found on the Galaxy S4 including Dual Shot."
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You're right about Sammy image stabilization.
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Which is going to be thru software based. But having true OIS is a big difference...
The phone is moving where the lens is sitting still. It's like it's on its own separate gyroscope!! I first seen it on the Sony camcorder at the CES show. The other functions that we'll get will be nice. But I'll hold out till the next model. Where technology will be very advanced by then...
Jmho
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crixley said:
The camera does have image stabilization...
Also the processor is more efficient, therefore battery life should be equivalent to ours currently.
"13MP Camera With Stabilization
The Galaxy Note 3 includes an upgraded 13MP camera that includes smart stabilization. This is Samsung’s optical image stabilization which will make photos look better thanks to advanced technology. Users also have access to a host of camera modes found on the Galaxy S4 including Dual Shot."
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Then Samsung lied...
And besides the obvious boatloader issues...
A custom rom kills the neat software tricks... g
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gregsarg said:
Then Samsung lied...
And besides the obvious boatloader issues...
A custom rom kills the neat software tricks... g
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So you're going by rumours from before it was released?

Anyone jumping to Nexus 5?

Hello!
So now that Nexus 5 is officially available...anyone jumping ship :laugh:
I am thinking but the bigger battery(also replaceable) and bigger screen are making me think twice.
Things going for Nexus 5 are the "updates" ....so thinking and waiting for reviews...
I don't care much for the faster hardware as i usually don't play games much and 16 GB would be enough for me as my usage never exceeds 5 GB.
p.s. just thinking loud and sharing my thoughts ...please don't go ballistic on me

cynosure4sure said:
Hello!
So now that Nexus 5 is officially available...anyone jumping ship :laugh:
I am thinking but the bigger battery(also replaceable) and bigger screen are making me think twice.
Things going for Nexus 5 are the "updates" ....so thinking and waiting for reviews...
I don't care much for the faster hardware as i usually don't play games much and 16 GB would be enough for me as my usage never exceeds 5 GB.
p.s. just thinking loud and sharing my thoughts ...please don't go ballistic on me
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I doubt that I will. There's just not a compelling enough reason, and I bought my LG OG Pro with all it's features and 32GB internal memory, etc. for far less than the N5 16GB model!
No, it's nice, but not worth it.

Nope.. Let's see when Nexus 6 is released.. For now OG Pro is perfect for me.

Dat 5.5" screen + 32gb internal + external SD slot is what's keeping me from the Nexus 5.. Same as with the Nexus 4 and LGOG. My internal is half full and about half of my 64gb card is half full so I definitely need the storage space lol.
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I'm staying with the pro for now. I'm eager to try kitKat but I'm sure we will see some roms before long so I'm gonna stay with this beast for now. I love screen size removable battery SD card and battery size.
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I think it's worth it. Given that it has the latest Android version, the latest proc. The camera has OIS. And the dev community for Nexus devices is huge.
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yes i agree the dev support will be no doubt huge......actually i have another motivation as well....
i have the Korean version F240K so dev support for it is very low for it....but what can i do i live in Korea :silly:
mostly i am waiting for battery tests as 2300mAh is small....or maybe LG OG Pro's replaceable battery spoiled me :angel:

Just buy a great powerbank, and you're good to go.
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5 in screen can't do it to small 5.5 is perfect
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I have the F420L, and it makes me sad that there are very few developers working on the OGP and fewer still want anything to do with the F420 variants. The Nexus 5 has great software support from google and the dev community, but its hardware isn't that much better than the OGP to justify purchasing it right away.

Not really. Had my white (unbranded) OGP for only a month and loving it (looks and speed). The N5 just looks too plain for my taste and in white it doesn't look any better; Zebra complex.
N5
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N4 same rear pattern as my OGP with the non-branded batter cover

Obviously just can't tolerate LG's late updates.

I really do miss the various roms I had on my S4. In addition, some kernels allow you to have 2 roms installed!
Mainly I miss development, and I sorta like how it looks (N5).
I am planning on buying one, then I will sell whatever I don't like :angel:

Would get an N5 if I didn't get the G Pro recently. I was coming from an Nexus 4. The 2300 battery might be an issue on the Nexus 5.
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The OGPro has too many advantages and like the others above will pass on the Nexus 5. I love my OGPro!
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Well, I took G Pro for his big screen, perfect for watching tvshows and movies... so my answer is : no
Micro-SD slot is mandatory for me, or at least, 64gb internal memory !

I finally received my LG Optimus G Pro today, so all my previous comments have been based on speculation. I finally have had the chance to really use the device.
While I did enjoy the stock UI more than I anticipated, I ended up with CyanogenMod installed, which is what I had planned to do with the device. Coming from AMOLED devices in the past, I am extremely impressed with the LG's screen. I much prefer it, so for me, IPS is my new default standard. The color is far more balanced and reading on it (which I do quite a lot of) isn't as taxing on the eyes.
The sum of its parts makes the LG OG Pro the unsung gem in the smartphone world, IMO. I'm extremely pleased that I sold my S4 and even with the extras, such as the AT&T case that activates the phone when flipped open and sleeps the screen when closed (works fine on CM, btw) a dual USB car charger and some screen protectors, I still have $150 left over from the sale of my S4, and I doubled my internal storage capacity in the process.
If this device had a fully unlockable bootloader, I don't think I'd ever sell it. The S4 has cheap plastic trim, but it looks to me like the OG Pro has real metal. The camera shutter and flash works faster on the OG Pro than the S4.
All in all, there's not much compelling me to look at the N5. It costs more and gives me less of what I wanted.

Actually in my opinion there is no reason to jump to Nexus 5 until Dev support continues for this phone....saying that anyone has any estimates/predictions as how long will Cyanogen support will continue foe this nice phone? :highfive:

cynosure4sure said:
Actually in my opinion there is no reason to jump to Nexus 5 until Dev support continues for this phone....saying that anyone has any estimates/predictions as how long will Cyanogen support will continue foe this nice phone? :highfive:
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I don't see any reason why it would stop being supported. With Loki, we can continue to work around the bootloader, so I don't see any problem with future development, but there may be a major change in something that screws that up. If/when the bootloader is patched to prevent the Loki exploit from working, and if the bootloader is tied to major functions on the device, as it is in Samdung's S4, then we could have a problem.

S4 is the perfect phone.

I was using my buddies note 3, and it was way too uncomfortable to use, and the pixel density, and speakers sucked.
S4 is like an iPhone (size and usability wise), mixed with a note (bigger than iPhone).
Perfect phone. Never gonna buy another one.
Agree?
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Until you get the S5 or the other S6 or the ................. S17. ?
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PanchoPlanet said:
Until you get the S5 or the other S6 or the ................. S17. ?
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Nope. S4 til I die. Or until I get the s8. Keeping this beast for a while.
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I will maybe upgrade to s5 but I do not like s6 having no way to change battery. I use a 7800mah anker and I can't give up 3 days without charging...
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I agree, it is also the perfect phone for me. However, I will upgrade probably when the next flagship is announced from HTC or Samsung
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I will maybe upgrade to s5 but I do not like s6 having no way to change battery. I use a 7800mah anker and I can't give up 3 days without charging...
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Everything you hear about it right now is just a rumor til it gets announced

serio22 said:
I agree, it is also the perfect phone for me. However, I will upgrade probably when the next flagship is announced from HTC or Samsung
Everything you hear about it right now is just a rumor til it gets announced
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HTC Hima (One M9?)
The portal has leaked images and specs. Apparently, it'll be running the Snapdragon 810 that Samsung just scrapped for the S6 in favor of it's Exynos chipset.
I've got my eye on it

Asus Zen2 looks mighty interesting.
I'm considering this for my next phone, hopefully some dev will take a shine to it and concoct something.
Pp.

Agreed. Still my daily driver. Definitely love the screen size to phone size ratio..perfect! Developers are still active for this phone (Thanks!). Looking forward to the S6, but it's hard to let go of this phone!

It is the perfect phone
I completely agree. I bought the S4 in 2013 (M919) and lost it. I waited for the S5 and seeing it was crap, I bought the S4 again.
Recently I broke the screen and thought I'd check out other phones.
After filtering my constraints :
- 5 inch max cause I use the phone one handed
- Micro SD
- Physical buttons
- Removable battery
- Full HD display
GSM Arena phone finder returned just one result. The S4
Guess this phone is going to be with me for a long time.

vortexmak said:
I completely agree. I bought the S4 in 2013 (M919) and lost it. I waited for the S5 and seeing it was crap, I bought the S4 again.
Recently I broke the screen and thought I'd check out other phones.
After filtering my constraints :
- 5 inch max cause I use the phone one handed
- Micro SD
- Physical buttons
- Removable battery
- Full HD display
GSM Arena phone finder returned just one result. The S4
Guess this phone is going to be with me for a long time.
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This phone has everything you need, man. Every time I think about upgrading I find some downside that makes me remember why I shelled out so much for the S4 in the first place; this phone has top notch specs that'll last for YEARS as long as you take care of it. I still have the original battery and charger, and I've only had to change screen protectors twice in almost two years. If I were to take off the Otterbox and screen protector, you wouldn't be able to spot the difference between my used S4 and a new one right out of the box.
I'm in no rush to upgrade. I think the only reason that I have anyway is to change it up and try something new. Pound for pound the S4 still holds it's own against current flagships.

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"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

HampTheToker said:
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Don't know what that was, but here's mine.
Pp.