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[Q] Miracast on gnex once we install 4.2

I am just making sure i understand things right.
Every device with wifi and android 4.2 will support miracast correct?
So once 4.2 drops we will be able to run miracast from our gnex phones correct?

JustusIV said:
I am just making sure i understand things right.
Every device with wifi and android 4.2 will support miracast correct?
So once 4.2 drops we will be able to run miracast from our gnex phones correct?
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I think it will. The Galaxy Nexus does support Wi-Fi Direct which is necessary for Miracast but we'll only know when the OTA update is released.

m-p{3} said:
I think it will. The Galaxy Nexus does support Wi-Fi Direct which is necessary for Miracast but we'll only know when the OTA update is released.
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what does OTA have to do with it.
Once AOSP 4.2 drops we will have all sorts of roms to test with.

Wifi-Display™ by TI is necessary for Miracast, from what i remember.
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I am bumping this since AOSP has dropped.
Can anyone confirm?
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So i am running 4.2 now. I do not think this is working as everyone was hoping.

Are there even any Miracast hardware (hdmi dongles or something) available to the consumer that support Miracast? I dont know of any, yet.

WiredPirate said:
Are there even any Miracast hardware (hdmi dongles or something) available to the consumer that support Miracast? I dont know of any, yet.
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Are you revering to a product like the PTV3000?

JustusIV said:
Are you revering to a product like the PTV3000?
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Kind of.. That does say it's Miracast. I saw on G+ where Phil from AC was going to do a review on it, but he said not to buy it yet. And these Amazon reviews agree that it's a pass. The price point is right for sure. Too bad.
http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-PTV30...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Any Miracast boxes/dongles that actually functions correctly I guess would have been a better question.

I have one in hand.
It does WiDi and miracast
You flip between which you want.
I cant get the win 8 tablet to connect to the widi and none of my android 4.2 devices have the miracast functional :/
Some of its the devices fault some not.
They are saying they will update the firmware to support win 8 by the end of the year or something. not sure when android miracast stuff will be working.
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this amazon review
"This device says it will work with Miracast, but I have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Samsung Galaxy SIII, and an Asus Nexus 7"
this isnt the fault of the PTV3000
even with android 4.2 it isnt enabled yet.

So back to the main question, does gnex with 4.2 have miracast function?

JustusIV said:
I have one in hand.
It does WiDi and miracast
You flip between which you want.
I cant get the win 8 tablet to connect to the widi and none of my android 4.2 devices have the miracast functional :/
Some of its the devices fault some not.
They are saying they will update the firmware to support win 8 by the end of the year or something. not sure when android miracast stuff will be working.
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this amazon review
"This device says it will work with Miracast, but I have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Samsung Galaxy SIII, and an Asus Nexus 7"
this isnt the fault of the PTV3000
even with android 4.2 it isnt enabled yet.
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Oh well damn you know better than any of us, you must have started this thread before getting 4.2 or the ptv?. Anyways. Disappointing 4.2 Miracast feature doesn't work on the only box available with Miracast (to my knowledge).

WiredPirate said:
Oh well damn you know better than any of us, you must have started this thread before getting 4.2 or the ptv?. Anyways. Disappointing 4.2 Miracast feature doesn't work on the only box available with Miracast (to my knowledge).
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Yes i did
I kinda feel like google took us for a ride on this one
http://phandroid.com/2012/11/19/psa-nexus-7-and-nexus-10-do-not-support-miracast-wireless-display/

JustusIV said:
Yes i did
I kinda feel like google took us for a ride on this one
http://phandroid.com/2012/11/19/psa-nexus-7-and-nexus-10-do-not-support-miracast-wireless-display/
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I know that feel. They say allot of stuff they think we want to hear, maybe they PLAN on actually doing what they say, maybe they make it up 10 minutes before announcing it. I wouldn't be surprised either way. Android Update Alliance? Sure. Right. I'll hold by breathe for that one. [email protected]? The lightbulbs controlled by your phone.. I'm sure Google will be able to complete this task before seven companies on kick starter do right? That's pretty much every damn announcement from last years keynote, all just a big show that they never made good on, and never even mentioned again. Did they even release the accessory developers kit they were talking about that year? I never read anything else about it.
Oh well. Guess I'm sticking to DLNA and AirPlay.

Got the Android 4.2 factory image on my Galaxy Nexus (yakju JOP40C) and there's no Miracast option available.
I guess only the Nexus 4 is the only certified smartphone for it right now.

Hi.
Are there any news on this?
My Galaxy Nexus has Android 4.3. I just got access to a Miracast dongle (I work at an online retailer) and it doesn't work.
WiFi Direct connects to the dongle, but it lacks the Miracast support. There is no option to enable "Wireless Display".

shinji21 said:
So back to the main question, does gnex with 4.2 have miracast function?
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half yes.
GN's miracast so-so working, but miracast menu hidden by google.
if you familiar with handling custom ROM, this ROM enabling miracast in GN on 4.2.2.
4.3 with miracast not yet available.
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Ota-packages
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Mirrorlink anyone?

Hi all. I have a pioneer AVIC-8000NEX and a verizon note 4.
Ever since having my GS4 I could not get the mirror link to work. I have the pioneer cables and the samsung mhl adapter.
I downloaded app radio on my phone but I ca never get it to work.
I tried drive link (Samsung's app) but it constantly crashes upon opening.
Anyone have mirror link working on their note 4?

I am on the same boat. From what I know, the note 4 has some kind of mirror link built-in and the s4 did not, however, pioneer needs to make it compatible with their devices
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I've been trying several things and trying to read up as much as possible. If I'm not mistaken, our devices use mirror link 1.1 and my Pioneer avic 8000 nex is on 1.0. There was a firmware update available but it didn't update the mirror link version. Mainly apply car play. I know Samsung has a Drive Link app, but it crashes whenever I try to open it. Using Pioneer App radio app, it starts to connect but then disconnects. Can't figure this out.

just got off phone with pioneer...
I was having this same issue with my pioneer head unit. Runs mirrorlink v1.0 but note runs v1.1. Spoke to pioneer who tells me the drivers are not backwords compatable. Pioneer is calling it a know defect on Mirrorlink side. They tell me its effecting everyone.
I called mirrorlink which nobody answered..... which is odd.
Also spoke to samsung customer service about it who told me its only used for their tvs to link... after i explained to the customer service person what it really was i did not get a reply.
So 1000.00 on radio, 100.00 on mirrorlink box, and i have a bluetooth connwction still.

Issue is with Pioneer and lack of development
Ok so... spent more time on phone with people at MirrorLink, Samsung and Pioneer.... here is the outcome.
MirrorLink states that the contract any company signs with them simply states they will provide the mirrorlink driver, its is the companies responsability to provide support for the driver and they application.
MirrorLink v1.0 needed a gateway app installed in order for it to talk to your radio however v1.1 has this built in.
Pioneer radios running v1.0 will NOT talk to phones running v1.1 as v1.1 is not backwards compatable due to the gateway app being built in.
I spoke with Pioneer to see how or when a updated flash for the 4600BH will be out there as this is the only reason I got this radio 8 months ago, the rep told me that they have no plans to update any of their current radios with a new flash and v1.1 and if I want MirrorLink to work with my Note4, "go buy a new 2015 model"
So there you go, customer service at its finest.....
I have submitted a BBB complaint that I spent good money for a working product that says it has MirrorLink but yet says nothing about the versions. If I had this radio for 3 years its one thing... but 8 months and there is NO support going foward for it?

Please keep me posted on your complaint with the BBB. You will also most likely need a petition going citing the same issues. I bought my avic 8000nex in April and mirror link was one of the features I was sold on. Is there anything I can do to help spread the word or get some momentum going for the complaint?

Mirrorlink
I have been having the same issue with the Samsung series of phones and the Pioneer AppRadio series. This is an absolute complete fail on Pioneers part. I personally am about to boycot anything from them because of their crappy customer service and their complete disregard to support their own stuff. Complaining to the BBB has done nothing for now, not sure what would. However, if anyone comes up with a fix or a third party flash fix for this head unit, I would be interested until I send this thing back to pioneer in pieces and tell them to kiss my but.

I don't believe this is a pioneer issue. Even if the pioneer uses 1.0 the HTC one m8 is 1.1 and works flawlessly with the pioneer units. I think this is a Samsung issue. I have a galaxy s5 on lollipop with mirrorlink and have the same issue. It connects but phone screen goes black and I have no picture on 4000nex screen. Oh and the s4 mini, note 4 and note edge were removed from the approved devices list on the mirrorlink web site a few days ago. Samsung is the problem here.

I'm in the market to upgrade my minivan's old Tape/CD player to a double-din head unit. I'm glad I found this thread. In fact, I nearly purchased that same head unit, last year.
In regards to MirrorLink 1.1, it looks like it came out sometime between December 2013 - April 2014, more likely AFTER the said head unit in the OP began mass production. I'm wondering if the newer Pioneer units support the same MirrorLink 1.1 technology. I've read that they are due out in March, 2015. I'll be looking at the AVIC-8100NE (or AVIC-8100NEX...it might've been a typo where I first read it), unless I hear of something better.
Can we start a list of known working head units for the Galaxy Note 4?

Honestly, I was going to try and see if there is a way to get it to work but I decided to just sale this head unit. I'm going to wait for an unit with Android Auto... I was looking at the model that Parrot is going to put on the market and I was very impressed, pretty much all that I wanted to do I'd be able to do with that.
Until than, I'm looking a way to use my Nexus 7 LTE as head unitish. Seems like it's possible so I'll start that project tomorrow

Still not working on 2015 model
Hey, tried my s5 with a 4700bs (2015 model with 1.1) on my display today and I still get the same error. "Reset settings" or whatever. This is not a 1.0 vs 1.1 problem. This has something to do with samsungs implementation of mirrorlink. The htc m8 is 1.1 and has always worked. Can't figure this one out. I should have gotten the htc phone.

Does anyone know if as of today pioneer has updated the mirror link firmware to 1.1?

I own Toyota innovative
Same issue . It's having Fujitsu Ten head unit.

I'm wondering if anyone has gotten MirrorLink to work on any Head Units with the Verizon Note 4 model (SM-N910V). Furthermore, if not, I'm wondering what the culprit may be. is root required? What about other Note 4's from other carriers with unlocked bootloaders? Basically anyone except Verizon and AT&T, with the exception of Verizon Developer Edition. Root is available for all those variants, if I'm not mistaken.. Anyone?

Still waiting for Pioneer to update the firmware for avic 8000nex. If they ever will.
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Next Version of AW being tested on Huawei Watch

It sounds like Android Wear should be updated "soon" and we "should" have the speaker support all of us Huawei Watch owners have been longing for.
The next version of Android Wear is being tested on the Huawei Watch from the sounds of it. I would bet (hope) the Huawei Watch sees the update first! Here is a link to the article by Android Police:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...i-watch-and-it-finally-activates-the-speaker/

Anyone have any idea how to become a member of this testing group?

timdoggg said:
Anyone have any idea how to become a member of this testing group?
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I'm looking into this now. Hopefully someone will upload the build for others to flash.

It would be nice to test the updated build, but I haven't seen any details about how to enroll in their beta program.

Rektifying said:
I'm looking into this now. Hopefully someone will upload the build for others to flash.
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so just ask the guy and tell him how its done.

Does anyone know if your phone's android system needs to be at version 6 (Marshmallow) in order to use the new features on the watch, once android wear is updated¿
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Does anyone know if your phone's android system needs to be at version 6 (Marshmallow) in order to use the new features on the watch, once android wear is updated¿
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it doesnt.

I was just coming over to post the same article. This may make my regret of leaving the Gear S go away!

This is why I bought this watch, for speakerphone support on Wear 1.4 update.
The ZenWatch 2 also has a speaker and should also receive an update. No other Wear watches have a speaker.

I hope that this is not fake.
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https://youtu.be/nvS4iPynkuM
XperiaLover said:
I hope that this is not fake.
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https://youtu.be/nvS4iPynkuM

Yea this is not fake.
The LG Urbane 2 LTE came with this version and had the speaker enabled. The Urbane was supposed to release with it but was recalled due to some "hardware" issues.
I specifically bought the Huawei watch for this specific reason. Watch calls from inside my pool this summer, yes!
I WISH they would include an option for a keyboard. Yes it is not ideal or reasonable for normal use, but there are some times when it would be awesome. Options are always good, even if they are disabled by default. Even a T9 style old school input would be awesome.

player911 said:
Yea this is not fake.
The LG Urbane 2 LTE came with this version and had the speaker enabled. The Urbane was supposed to release with it but was recalled due to some "hardware" issues.
I specifically bought the Huawei watch for this specific reason. Watch calls from inside my pool this summer, yes!
I WISH they would include an option for a keyboard. Yes it is not ideal or reasonable for normal use, but there are some times when it would be awesome. Options are always good, even if they are disabled by default. Even a T9 style old school input would be awesome.
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you should try quick for wear. its fantastic
The urbane 2 uses a new hexagon battery, wich caused problems.

Watch keyboard
Motawa88 said:
you should try quick for wear. its fantastic
The urbane 2 uses a new hexagon battery, wich caused problems.
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What about Touch One keyboard for wear?

Rektifying said:
I'm looking into this now. H.
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found anything?

player911 said:
Yea this is not fake.
The LG Urbane 2 LTE came with this version and had the speaker enabled. The Urbane was supposed to release with it but was recalled due to some "hardware" issues.
I specifically bought the Huawei watch for this specific reason. Watch calls from inside my pool this summer, yes!
I WISH they would include an option for a keyboard. Yes it is not ideal or reasonable for normal use, but there are some times when it would be awesome. Options are always good, even if they are disabled by default. Even a T9 style old school input would be awesome.
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I use these two apps:
Mail for Android Wear
And
Messages for Android Wear
They are both replacement apps and are by the same Dev and have tiny keyboards that can be gotten used to!
They also have a web browser that works... well... It works...

I hope this is real. I'd love to have audio notifications on my H Watch.
Just waiting for someone to leak the firmware and confirm its true.

The guy who recieved the update didn't make a system dump before installing the update. This can only be done BEFORE installing. So there is no hope, we will get the update from him. Unless there is another user that copies the update.zip before installing.
On the other hand he won't be the only one to recieve this test build.

sputnik99 said:
The guy who recieved the update didn't make a system dump before installing the update. This can only be done BEFORE installing. So there is no hope, we will get the update from him. Unless there is another user that copies the update.zip before installing.
On the other hand he won't be the only one to recieve this test build.
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This device has an unlocked bootloader and a redily available copy of twrp.
ANY ONE who got that update could distribute it with in just a few minutes...
1. Receive update.
2. Let it apply
3. Unlock bootloader
4. Flash TWRP
5. Back up entire system
6. Post to internet.
But to what you are saying... Yes, it is correct that you can only get the update.zip before install. However see my point about getting the entire deal.
Then anyone could restore his TWRP back up and have whatever it is he has...

Perhaps newer builds of the firmware will be more widely tested soon, and more likely to leak out.....
The thing that's bothering me is that perhaps we might not get this firmware at all, and that it might be for testing features in a new 2016 watch from Huawei.
figures crossed we WILL get a download of this soon

Oreo update starts rolling out today!

Good news guys Looks like Google is giving us treats for the holiday season.
https://www.gsmarena.com/android_wear_devices_to_get_oreo_update_starting_today-news-28614.php
I'm guessing that every watch that is supported by AW2.0 will also be getting Oreo update. Yes, original Huawei watch is already beyond the 2 year support period but i don't think that the same rules goes for watches like it's usually the case with phones. Do you think original HW will be getting Oreo? I mean, we got new security update some days ago so it's still supported

I hope so,waiting for the update in a month.

In comments on articles about this, people have been reporting even the original Moto 360 is already getting this. I'm not sure the relationship between android version and android wear code but maybe it's pretty easy to merge the Oreo updates with the manufacturer's code now that they are on AW 2.0.

jdock said:
In comments on articles about this, people have been reporting even the original Moto 360 is already getting this. I'm not sure the relationship between android version and android wear code but maybe it's pretty easy to merge the Oreo updates with the manufacturer's code now that they are on AW 2.0.
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The original moto 360 never even made it to android wear 2.0, so I highly doubt it is getting this update.
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Good news guys Looks like Google is giving us treats for the holiday season.
https://www.gsmarena.com/android_wear_devices_to_get_oreo_update_starting_today-news-28614.php
I'm guessing that every watch that is supported by AW2.0 will also be getting Oreo update. Yes, original Huawei watch is already beyond the 2 year support period but i don't think that the same rules goes for watches like it's usually the case with phones. Do you think original HW will be getting Oreo? I mean, we got new security update some days ago so it's still supported
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The fact that we got a security update doesn't mean much. There were some pretty high profile vulnerabilities that needed patching (KRACK, etc.).

TheSt33v said:
The original moto 360 never even made it to android wear 2.0, so I highly doubt it is getting this update.
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Oh sheesh... so that particular comment was meant as a joke that went right over my head!

How can i return to the stock rom and unroot the device? Or just to return to the stock with the ota updates. Thanks im on the negalite now...

vuoshino said:
How can i return to the stock rom and unroot the device? Or just to return to the stock with the ota updates. Thanks im on the negalite now...
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Follow this video: https://youtu.be/qVrBEmi35-E
Files are on his server.
I accidentally installed AW 1.4 but received updates to update so now I'm on AW 2.6 A7.1.1 october patch

Don't expect it for this device.
Just read on an Android Wear g+ community that it is only coming for the Huawei watch 2.
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Yep we're screwed... Here's the official list

jeston said:
Yep we're screwed... Here's the official list
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That sucks :/ I kinda knew this would happen eventhough i was optimistic and hopeful that Huawei Watch still gets it. So, it's finally the end of software support for our beloved original HW **** you, you ugly ass HW2!

Can someone explain this End Of Life situation though...? The Huawei Watch is STILL on sale via Huawei's direct website! Surely they shouldn't be selling a watch without providing the software support seriously!? I thought the deal was 2 years after the device goes on sale or 18 months after it stops being on sale (whichever is longer).
I think this statement needs to be reiterated to Huawei and Google.
Also I bought the watch thinking the support life would be alot longer than a phone... People don't buy +£200 watches for only 2 years usage.
This "policy" may have just made me decide that I'm not interested in Android Wear anymore... Even my Pixel 2 will have a longer shelf life!

EOL is not here yet, just no Oreo. This is near the bottom of the article.
Some of the watches dropped from support include the ASUS ZenWatch 2 and 3, the original Fossil Q Founder, the LG G Watch R/Urbane/Urbane LTE, the second-gen Moto 360 and 360 Sport, and the original Huawei Watch. Those watches will continue to get Android Wear updates (like the recent v2.6 update) through the Play Store, but the underlying Android version will be stuck on Nougat.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/12/09/google-announces-android-wear-watches-will-get-oreo-update/

Surely there will be a way to install as a custom Rom?

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Surely there will be a way to install as a custom Rom?
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The only one for the HW1 is discontinued. The dev's watch died and Huawei gave him a watch 2. If another dev steps up, yes, but since there was only one and that dev does not plan to continue.

The thing is I only love the look of HV1 watch. Most stylish. There is no other V2 watch out there that comes close.
I have a Huawei Mate 10 running Oreo so it's a shame my watch won't match my phone.

Custom ROMs are our only hope now!

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Custom ROMs are our only hope now!
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Well actually, just staying on wear 2 isn't a bad option, it still works wonderfully.

I agree. The more that Huawei Watch (1) is still officially on sale and is more expensive in stores than Huawei Watch 2.

I've made a post on their Swedish FB-site, here in Sweden it is still actively sold by two of Huawei's recommended resellers advertised at Huawei's site.
Can we figure out if the 18 months after sale claim is valid for Wear as well as regular Android? And was this formulated before or after the launch of the Watch?

I spoke to Huawei Technical Service. They do not have anywhere indicated that they provide support for 18 months from purchase / production. They claim that it depends on Google - not from them. They do not guarantee anything
It's a pity, because I have their P9 Plus smartphone and Watch 1 smartwatch and I think it makes the highest-class flagship.

Hearing Aid support in Android "P" - seeking info and updates

I'm about to get my first hearing aids. Four years after cancer diagnosis my hearing loss is moderately severe, thanks to ototoxic Cisplatin chemo.
Modern hearing aids link to devices via Bluetooth Low Energy (BTle) protocol adopted by hearing aid manufacturers. Apple developed and patented a BTle protocol they call MFI (Made for iPhone.) Almost all hearing aids support it.
Android does not have that Apple licensed protocol, so Android users need third device that links to the phone and links to the hearing aids and passes phone calls or music streaming to the HAs. Most third party devices have batteries that last 4-6 hours, and cost $3-$600 in addition to the $4-6K for hearing aids. Getting an iPhone is the solution, seems most HA users have iPhones (I found an HA forum with good users and info on the web.)
There is information that Android P will support direct connection to hearing aids.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-2-bluetooth-hearing-aids-android-p/
Reading the DP Program Timeline, DP4 should be a Release Candidate with final APIs in place for testing. https://developer.android.com/preview/overview

Looking forward to an answer regarding this. I would love to update the article to confirm it works.

I also buyed an iPhone in order to test the connectivity to my aids but I'm a bit dissapointed of iOS.
Looking forward to get some information about the new hearing aid connectivity features in Android P - can somebody report if they are already integrated the the developer preview builds?
Hope that not only Pixel devices will support them, because I'm actually very happy with the OnePlus devices. Maybe there would be a way to enable them on non-Pixel devices.
Regards,
dachserl

So is the belief that Android P will allow non-A2DP hearing aids to stream audio/music? My dad has non-A2DP hearings aids (has to use a separate transmitter between the hearing aids and the phone to be able to stream music) and I have DP4 installed, so I can probably test this but I'd like to confirm first if my understanding is correct.

Hi,
yes, streaming audio, making phone calls like with Made for iPhone (MFI) aids.
See this article: https://www.xda-developers.com/android-getting-support-for-bluetooth-hearing-aids/amp/
Would bei very nice if you and your dad could test and report if it is already part of the DP4 version.

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Would bei very nice if you and your dad could test and report if it is already part of the DP4 version.
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It is not visible or useable in DP4.

Do you know any date for the final release?

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Do you know any date for the final release?
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I use Oticon OPN HA's and am on DP4 using a Pixel XL. I don't see anything in the menu that suggests HA support is now available. I don't know when the final release of P will be.
I got my hearing aids 2 years ago and had to buy an iphone because only apple had the low power bluetooth which the OPN's use. My understanding is that this tech is proprietary to apple. Two developments since then. One is Oticon released a version of it's Oticon ON software for android. It doesn't allow streaming but will allow you to change programs and volume on the HA's. This spring Oticon released its "ConnectClip" device, about the size of a match book, which connects regular bluetooth to the low power bluetooth used by the HA's. You can pair your pixel to the connect clip and it will act as an interface and stream and manage phone calls. The other advantage with the connect clip is that it will work with any bluetooth device, i.e. laptop, tablet, etc. I paid $150 for it.
Hope this helps.

renndachserl said:
Do you know any date for the final release?
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Did you read my first post?
Hint - second link -> click it and read <-

STraver said:
I use Oticon OPN HA's and am on DP4 using a Pixel XL. I don't see anything in the menu that suggests HA support is now available.
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Did you see the first link in my first post? It has proof that P shows HA support, but it is hidden code for now.

Pkt_Lnt said:
Did you see the first link in my first post? It has proof that P shows HA support, but it is hidden code for now.
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No I didn't but I'll check it out. My Dr. always said Android would offer support at some point.

Pkt_Lnt said:
I'm about to get my first hearing aids. Four years after cancer diagnosis my hearing loss is moderately severe, thanks to ototoxic Cisplatin chemo.
Modern hearing aids link to devices via Bluetooth Low Energy (BTle) protocol adopted by hearing aid manufacturers. Apple developed and patented a BTle protocol they call MFI (Made for iPhone.) Almost all hearing aids support it.
Android does not have that Apple licensed protocol, so Android users need third device that links to the phone and links to the hearing aids and passes phone calls or music streaming to the HAs. Most third party devices have batteries that last 4-6 hours, and cost $3-$600 in addition to the $4-6K for hearing aids. Getting an iPhone is the solution, seems most HA users have iPhones (I found an HA forum with good users and info on the web.)
There is information that Android P will support direct connection to hearing aids.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-2-bluetooth-hearing-aids-android-p/
Reading the DP Program Timeline, DP4 should be a Release Candidate with final APIs in place for testing. https://developer.android.com/preview/overview
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I would wait till DP 5 which should come out in first week of August. I also wear a hearing aid that works well with Iphone and have a dongle for the android. Its a pita!
I have the ReSound Hearing Aid.

I've got my dad installing DP4 now. I'll let you know probably either tonight or tomorrow whether HA streaming support works or not.
Update: DP4 installed on Pixel 2. Phonak HAs were already paired but saw no additional option for music streaming (still only Phone and Contacts options). Tried YouTube any way but audio still came through the phone instead of HA. Went to Developer Options and didn't see anything related in there. Unpaired/forgot the HAs, re-paired but still to no avail.
Thoughts? Do you think they just haven't implemented it in DP4 and maybe it'll be in the final?

Just throwing this out there for consideration, when Google enables HA support in DP5 or full version of P, wouldn't we be waiting on the HA manufactures for firmware updates to the HA's themselves. My thought is that the HA's that have a made for iphone designation or even just a generic bluetooth ability, it's the HA firmware that enables the features.
I just received my first set of HA's, Oticon OPN 2 miniRITE, and I'm looking at getting the Oticon ConnectClip to give me the ability to stream. Oticon could take years to implement the android features into their firmware.
What are your thoughts? Firmware updates needed??

I sure hope Google helps us out with Android P. I have used an iphone with my widex hearing aids for about a year now... sucks. Soooo ready to get back to Android.
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Meandering Wanderer said:
Just throwing this out there for consideration, when Google enables HA support in DP5 or full version of P, wouldn't we be waiting on the HA manufactures for firmware updates to the HA's themselves. My thought is that the HA's that have a made for iphone designation or even just a generic bluetooth ability, it's the HA firmware that enables the features.
I just received my first set of HA's, Oticon OPN 2 miniRITE, and I'm looking at getting the Oticon ConnectClip to give me the ability to stream. Oticon could take years to implement the android features into their firmware.
What are your thoughts? Firmware updates needed??
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I think the Manufactures would race to get that streaming technology to their hearing aids if Android comes through.

No change with DP5 either. No option in Bluetooth settings for media/audio/streaming.

s1dest3pnate said:
No change with DP5 either. No option in Bluetooth settings for media/audio/streaming.
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Accessibility Settings? That is where I would expect them. Not that it matters really, but MFI support is in accessibility settings, as most HA users and Audiologists look for them on fitting setup.

Pkt_Lnt said:
Accessibility Settings? That is where I would expect them. Not that it matters really, but MFI support is in accessibility settings, as most HA users and Audiologists look for them on fitting setup.
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There is nothing in accessibility settings. I tried to connect with the HA but it doesn't pickup the hearing aid. I sometimes get GN to pop up but doesn't connect

With P being out now, we need to check this again. My dad is out of town but I'll have him check when he gets back. Can anyone else check in the meantime?

s1dest3pnate said:
With P being out now, we need to check this again. My dad is out of town but I'll have him check when he gets back. Can anyone else check in the meantime?
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I just tried with the resound gn. When trying to add the HA the GN shows up and able to connect but I can't hear any music in Spotify. Still missing code I believe.