LCD vs AMoLED - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Apparently the last time this came up in the forums was 2013, I just did a search. I have say, and am curious to responses, I truly prefer lcd on my htc10 or my essential phone. I tried a LG v30, and today just bought a pixel 2 xl, and my wife has a one plus 6t, and I have to say, even though my pixel 2 xl has a higher point than my htc10 or PH-1, the display looks blurry and crappy, same with the one plus 6t, when compared to my essential and htc 10.
What am I missing? Am I crazy, or blind? The entire planet seems to prefer AMOLED, and I don't think they hold a candle to a good LED display, even one of a lesser PPI. Am I nuts? Just curious to hear some others' thoughts.

scottspa74 said:
Apparently the last time this came up in the forums was 2013, I just did a search. I have say, and am curious to responses, I truly prefer lcd on my htc10 or my essential phone. I tried a LG v30, and today just bought a pixel 2 xl, and my wife has a one plus 6t, and I have to say, even though my pixel 2 xl has a higher point than my htc10 or PH-1, the display looks blurry and crappy, same with the one plus 6t, when compared to my essential and htc 10.
What am I missing? Am I crazy, or blind? The entire planet seems to prefer AMOLED, and I don't think they hold a candle to a good LED display, even one of a lesser PPI. Am I nuts? Just curious to hear some others' thoughts.
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You are not crazy i prefer Super LCD as well thats is also the main reason HTC to stick with LCD and making it even better the Latest Super LCD 6 that is in U11Plus and u12Plus is really well made display.
It is true that the Amoled have more crisp colors and consume less power the black is black and so on but in another situation the AMOLED is so crisp that is unreal and to sharp for the eyes it is okay to use it on a regular basis but if you use 5 hours non stop an Amoled led say S9 Plus you will feel the difference that your eyes prefer good LCD for sure and the LCD have more natural colors and have t osay REALISTIC
today tech the marketing is VIVID screen and the people buy it but on the same time we all know that in real let me say you shoot a domato in your Amoled the domato will been even MORE RED than it is on reality so for me this is unreal thats why one of the main reasons as well when you look at photos to see them so crisp sharp like Anime.
It is not so hard or so expensive to put an Amoled screen on a phone like we can see even the middle phone range from China that cost under 200 Bucks are with Amoleds the reason some companys to stick with LCD is because they have other ideas.
Im waiting to see what kind of display the hTC will use in the 2019 flagship.

I personally feel the same as @tsalta I have had several phones, I just feel like LCD screens just look much more real. I had a one plus 3 before my HTC 10 and I could never replicate the HTC 10s look on a that. Its just impossible. I spent weeks. But I feel conflicted amoled screens offer very good efficiency but after using it to long MY EYES HURT. there needs to be some sort of hybrid creation between led and lcd

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I personally feel the same as @tsalta I have had several phones, I just feel like LCD screens just look much more real. I had a one plus 3 before my HTC 10 and I could never replicate the HTC 10s look on a that. Its just impossible. I spent weeks. But I feel conflicted amoled screens offer very good efficiency but after using it to long MY EYES HURT. there needs to be some sort of hybrid creation between led and lcd
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You read my mind in the future will have some hybrid im not saying HTC will do it for sure i hope but the future is to be the benefits of Amoled with the Benefits of the LCD im sure we are not far from seeing this.
Like i say right now Super LCD 6 it is really well made display

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HTC to switch from AMOLED to STFT due to shortages

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http://androidheadlines.com/2010/06/htc-switch-to-stft-lcd-from-amoled-due-to-shortages.html
this could be a rumour but if true, I'm going to be a lot more careful with my desire.
I heard this as well. How will this affect battery life and do they look anywhere near as good?
LCDs these days are almost as good as AMOLED. Note that I said almost. I don't think anything can compare to an AMOLED or SuperAMOLED in regular inside environments, but when you get outside and the sun is shining, it's almost as if the screen isn't on. I have to put the brightness all of the way up to see the screen. LCDs don't have that problem. So If you don't know which you have in a new phone, you probably wont be able to tell unless you're outside! muahaha.
Hmm. I'm glad I already have the Desire...
As far as I know, AMOLED gives better viewing angles, has better colors and is better for battery life (which is a pain on Android phones).
Also, an AMOLED is better than LCD for showing true black or darker shades due to the lack of a backlight which is in LCD screens
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Maybe this will finally prevent the pinkish issue on some HTC AMOLED devices.
Well, Sony's TFTs shouldn't have PenTile, which should make text sharper and really ought to get rid of the pink tint. It's a trade-off; personally I'd rather have TFT with RGB subpixels, but it seems to be a minority opinion.
according to engadget, they say the Iphone 4 screen is better then the Galaxy S Super ALMOLED.
Even though I hate Iphone I must admit, the screen does look good.
Nekromantik said:
according to engadget, they say the Iphone 4 screen is better then the Galaxy S Super ALMOLED.
Even though I hate Iphone I must admit, the screen does look good.
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The screen could be good, but i don't understand why apple did't made the screen bigger.
Iphone 4 screen is awesome, nice colours & perfectly viewable from a variety of angles. Pin sharp & very very clear. But its a bit too small for my liking.
Doesn't the iphone use ips technology or is that the same as super lcd (because this is the first time i hear of super lcd)
Mithent said:
Well, Sony's TFTs shouldn't have PenTile, which should make text sharper and really ought to get rid of the pink tint. It's a trade-off; personally I'd rather have TFT with RGB subpixels, but it seems to be a minority opinion.
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Agree 100% (love AMOLED, but hate PenTile). If someone ever offer me to change my Desire to normal LCD Desire i would be over the moon. I hope HTC will make ones. Maybe, just one for me
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according to engadget, they say the Iphone 4 screen is better then the Galaxy S Super ALMOLED.
Even though I hate Iphone I must admit, the screen does look good.
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What the Engadget article really showed was that in NORMAL use there was no discernible advantage to the iPhone 4 screen.
Being the Apple shills that they are they resorted to the retarded microscope comparisons. IF you have to show what the pixels look like under a microscope to get what the difference is then there's no difference.

True HD IPS is much sharper than HD Super AMOLED

I know the True HD IPS screen is better than the AMOLED but I didn't think it was that much sharper than the HD Super AMOLED on a borrowed Galaxy Nexus. It's almost like putting on glasses, very crisp detail. I'm guessing when there is a non pentile HD AMOLED the differences may be a lot smaller but against the pentile HD AMOLED the difference is huge. The only thing holding the Optimus LTE back against truly surpassing the Galaxy Nexus in just about every way is the lack of an official ICS rom but then there is always CM9 for those of us who know how to get it on the phone.
Could take some pictures for comparison if anyone is interested
Yup. 3 subpixel elements rendering out light using RGB + a decently wide gamut backlight, rather than educated guesswork (well, subpixel rendering) using only a combination of two subpixels per pixel (and still off color). Also, no uneven black screens. Minor nitpick, but has always annoyed me on all amoled displays (it really shows up a night).
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Also keep in mind that the G nexus has a slightly larger screen, therefore lower PPI.
There's no question about it. I also compared the Nexus vs. Nitro side by side, and the text on Nexus' screen is more like my old 3GS, but on Nitro it's much sharper. Oh, did I mention the over-saturated color?
What's funny to me is that the next great android super phone, the Galaxy S3 is STILL going to use a pentile AMOLED screen.
HTC did the right thing using the SUPERLCD in the one X imo
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What's funny to me is that the next great android super phone, the Galaxy S3 is STILL going to use a pentile AMOLED screen.
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Yeah that is disappointing. Those who say pentile isn't noticeable never used a high density IPS display; I could see what looks like a dithering pattern everywhere coming from the optimus true hd lte. I also don't like how AMOLED has these blotches everywhere when viewing the screen on low brightness.
I refuse to get anything less than our True HD IPS. Coming from an iPhone 4 to the Nitro, me eyes have been looking at retina quality screens for too long to go back to anything less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF-Z3_f3WCE
That's the difference I'm talking about
Another thing to point out (and maybe it's just me) the last phone I had was an infuse 4g and I noticed a burn in with the status bar, my brother's phone is the same which is a galaxy s. Both of them are amoled. Which I could notice while playing games on them.
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True I've already seen a few AMOLED displays with burn-in visible. I think LCD technology is also prone to some image persistence problems but not nearly as prone as AMOLED
Wow the youtube video really gets the point across. And I was already considering buying a Galaxy S3. I think we may be spoiled by our phones because there is a possibility LG may not continue to do the IPS displays. Also, the processor is a factor as well. I'm still on the fence between a 4X and GS3.
I've yet to experience the burn issues with OLED but I've never peaked out the brigtness settings for a prolonged period either which it strongly states can cause screen burn.. There is a divided group I've come to notice were some don't really get all that excited by the vibrant colors and outright detest the lack of viewabilty in open sunlight. I don't make any qualms against those and their reasons are valid. There are a lot of us however who are passionate about them for their stunning colors that captivate a photographers eye. I suppose it's an each their own issue but for anyone who is new with AMOLED, any prolonged brightness at the maxed settings on a fixed screen inevitably causes burn. I've personally never had any issues.
Biggest downside for me on p930 is the touch sensitivity. It's definitely noticeable compared to the skyrocket. It's especially pronounced on the screen edges. Otherwise, the form factor is better (thinner, textured back), the screen has a great feature where the glass curves over the edges of the bezel. Could be the reason the edges are less sensitive? I also prefer the three capacitive buttons vs. four. And as mentioned display quality is great: ppi, benefits of it's lcd vs amoled, etc. Show someone the videos included with the stock gingerbread wrong. It amazing.
Samsung said they are including the pentile again, because it lasts longer then the HD amoled display. Something else to consider.
Samsung said they are including the pentile again, because it lasts longer then the HD amoled display. Something else to consider.
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This sorta seems like a slap in the face to current Galaxy S2 owners doesn't it? "Hi, this is Samsung, your Galaxy S2 screen should be dying soon, perfect time to buy a new S3!"
gmkelly001 said:
This sorta seems like a slap in the face to current Galaxy S2 owners doesn't it? "Hi, this is Samsung, your Galaxy S2 screen should be dying soon, perfect time to buy a new S3!"
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Basically, it's Samsung admitting burn in IS an issue, even within the 2 year confines of many phone contracts (though some in Canada get 3 years!?).
In Canada you basically have to go 3 year contract or the subsidy isn't worth it and you might as well buy the phone outright
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Basically, it's Samsung admitting burn in IS an issue, even within the 2 year confines of many phone contracts (though some in Canada get 3 years!?).
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I think it's more likely that they can't make a profit if they included Super Amoled Hd + displays.
Thank you for your new reel
I returned my Galaxy nexus and bought a LG Nitro HD. The screen on the Nexus had way too many flaws to pass for a high end phone. The yellow tint, and the ghosting were unacceptable to me.

Nexus 5X IPS ?

Why did not note on the official website of the specifications?
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Why did not note on the official website of the specifications?
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Well they did put LCD as oppose to the AMOLED listing for the 6P. Aren't all LCD screens on phones pretty much IPS now? I could be wrong.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
I certainly hope it is as good as the nexus 5 from 2013. If it isn't I think I will return it. It is a "midrange" device but it is still expensive and they cut a lot of other corners on this phone. The display better be good.
The display looks good, but could have been better on Nexus 5x. They also have compromised on other things and display is one of that.
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I certainly hope it is as good as the nexus 5 from 2013. If it isn't I think I will return it. It is a "midrange" device but it is still expensive and they cut a lot of other corners on this phone. The display better be good.
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I think the reason why it's expensive is Android Hub, camera, and fingerprint sensor. I read the display isn't spectacular. I have a feeling it'll be the same like the Nexus 5. Also, Google didn't take the time to calibrate it
I'm not worried about the LG LCD, they make great displays. Also I much prefer a LCD to amoled
jbdan said:
I'm not worried about the LG LCD, they make great displays. Also I much prefer a LCD to amoled
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I'm glad LG is making the display. I am with you on AMOLED. At first, I thought I liked it, but I experienced burn-in on my Moto X 2014 a few months later. Never again will I go for AMOLED
A couple of places list the 5x as having an IPS screen; one such place is AnandTech.
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I'm glad LG is making the display. I am with you on AMOLED. At first, I thought I liked it, but I experienced burn-in on my Moto X 2014 a few months later. Never again will I go for AMOLED
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Yeah I don't know exactly what it is about amoled, even on the best displays like the GS6. There definitely is image retention with all amoleds, some worse than others and dependent on use. They also tend to look "dirty" at lower light levels. LCDs look cleaner to my aging eyes.
This will be my first non-Samsung screen I'll be looking at in years. Galaxy S5 and S III were my last phones. Might be a welcomed change.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
The Nexus 5 panel used was well calibrated and one of the more accurate mobile displays. I'm hoping LG and Google keep the same attention to detail with the 5x LCD calibration, so far hands on have said they were impressed with the screen quality and brightness.
I sent back my Nexus 5 three days after owning for bad light bleed at top edge. I can't stand light bleed, and that is my biggest quip with LCD's. That said my G2 LCD is awesome, with no such problems. From the quick hands-on vid's I've seen, haven't seen any bad light bleed yet.
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Yeah I don't know exactly what it is about amoled, even on the best displays like the GS6. There definitely is image retention with all amoleds, some worse than others and dependent on use. They also tend to look "dirty" at lower light levels. LCDs look cleaner to my aging eyes.
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Not as dirty as xperias. Whenever I take mine out of my pocket, it looks very dirty and a bunch of dust on it. Had the z1 and returning this z3c to amazon lol.

[Q] Htc one M10

So HTC says its going to change the design of the next flagship device. Not sure how i feel about that. I hope htc makes an even better looking one than the previous ones
http://www.concept-phones.com/tag/htc-one-m10/
If this is what the design will look like am I would be in love with it! Now that is some sexy piece of phone!
androidfeen809 said:
If this is what the design will look like am I would be in love with it! Now that is some sexy piece of phone!
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Fantastic but the brushed steel body seems to be outdated.
I have high hopes for this phone. I only had one HTC and it was very brief, the M9, which I had to return because of extreme heat issues. I liked the build of the phone, though.
With most phones going AMOLED, which I loathe, my only choice seemed to be the LG G5 but after the G4 bootloop debacle, I didn't want to further support them. Plus the G5 seems to gimmicky with the modules, of which I'll never use.
So, HTC, please don't let me down.
Rumors are The inclusion of 4GB RAM along with internal storage options: 32, 64 and 128GB have also been claimed multiple sources. The device might come with 5-inch 4K or 2K resolution display. Well, we should keep in mind that it's not necessary for the device to come with these above mentioned aspects because HTC is yet to give confirmation to its forthcoming heir.
Most awiting upcoming gsm smartphones 2016
Sammae7 said:
I have high hopes for this phone. I only had one HTC and it was very brief, the M9, which I had to return because of extreme heat issues. I liked the build of the phone, though.
With most phones going AMOLED, which I loathe, my only choice seemed to be the LG G5 but after the G4 bootloop debacle, I didn't want to further support them. Plus the G5 seems to gimmicky with the modules, of which I'll never use.
So, HTC, please don't let me down.
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I believe a SuperLCD screen is soft-confirmed, so you may pretty happy to hear this. As far as storage, I've heard a lot about 32 and 64, but only a whisper about 128 right at the beginning.
More exciting is yesterday's #powerof10 tweet, which reads "Here comes the new boom. You’ll hear it. #powerof10 pic.twitter.com/Ln3XxWZ9BO
— HTC (@htc) March 23, 2016"
One can hope
Yeah, I was originally reading about the screen being Super LCD 5 but am now reading Super AMOLED at a few places after a "spec leak".
That will officially count me out on the HTC 10.
Sammae7 said:
Yeah, I was originally reading about the screen being Super LCD 5 but am now reading Super AMOLED at a few places after a "spec leak".
That will officially count me out on the HTC 10.
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Even though I'm 99% sure it is going to be an LCD, the latest Amoled panels are decent. Definitely shouldn't be a deciding factor when choosing a device.
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I don't know if decent is good enough for me. My last AMOLED phone (Nexus 6) really let me down, developing burn in after about three days, even if it was slight. I'm a heavy user and my eyesight is fairly sharp. Combine that with some slight OCD issues, any blemish draws my attention constantly, slowly driving me insane. Tis a sad life.
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I don't know if decent is good enough for me. My last AMOLED phone (Nexus 6) really let me down, developing burn in after about three days, even if it was slight. I'm a heavy user and my eyesight is fairly sharp. Combine that with some slight OCD issues, any blemish draws my attention constantly, slowly driving me insane. Tis a sad life.
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Sounds like a defective screen to me-- I have 20:15, and am anal about the quality of my screens. I am not a huge fan of AMOLED in its current state, but I've not had an experience with them developing burn in with even heavy use, so long as said use is "normal." You can burn almost anything in with enough time + static image.
From the pictures which flows. HTC 10 looks beautiful,Snapdragon 820 is also the best in Android.
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http://www.concept-phones.com/tag/htc-one-m10/
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Always changes.
Brady0123 said:
Always changes.
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the HTC 10 will not look like that...
here's a leaked video...
more info...http://bgr.com/2016/04/11/htc-10-video-specs-leak-official/

Clarity/resolution

The OnePlus 3 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The display is definitely better than what weve had on the previous OnePlus phones. I did find the color saturation a bit weird coming from the LCD of the OnePlus One to the OAMOLED of the OP3, but it's a pretty beautiful display to look at.
I haven't been able to compare with another AMOLED screen, but compared to my LG G3 at full brightness, the OnePlus 3 screen colours doesn't seem as vibrant as an AMOLED screen should be. One other thing is that I've been so used to QHD on the G3, I can really notice the drop back to HD. Nonetheless, the OnePlus 3 is bang for buck no matter which way you look at it.
I just have one word. Gorgeous.
The display is sharp enough, bright enough and the color saturation is good. And definetly better than previous OP screens
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I haven't been able to compare with another AMOLED screen, but compared to my LG G3 at full brightness, the OnePlus 3 screen colours doesn't seem as vibrant as an AMOLED screen should be. One other thing is that I've been so used to QHD on the G3, I can really notice the drop back to HD. Nonetheless, the OnePlus 3 is bang for buck no matter which way you look at it.
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You notice because it has PenTile arrangement, not because it's FHD.
I've gotten used to it now, the screen is still quite amazing on the OP3. Tbh, I've always found it funny how phone manufacturers are sucked into the res race given some of the drawbacks of pushing a larger amount of pixels.
I'm moving from my Moto X (2014) to OP3, and trust me the white balance is WAY off towards the blue end. I read a review which did display tests on both the AMOLEDs of X and OP3, and apart from the white balance, OP3 has a slightly better screen and/or screen calibration than the X (which is 2 years old).
Overall I still find it blue after I switch from the X, but it's a beautiful screen nonetheless.
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I'm moving from my Moto X (2014) to OP3, and trust me the white balance is WAY off towards the blue end. I read a review which did display tests on both the AMOLEDs of X and OP3, and apart from the white balance, OP3 has a slightly better screen and/or screen calibration than the X (which is 2 years old).
Overall I still find it blue after I switch from the X, but it's a beautiful screen nonetheless.
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Just got mine, haven't even turned it on yet, but AFAIK (from reviews) white balance is adjustable in the settings. Play around with the slider if it looks too blueish to you.
Explorer23 said:
Just got mine, haven't even turned it on yet, but AFAIK (from reviews) white balance is adjustable in the settings. Play around with the slider if it looks too blueish to you.
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Yep, thanks! Did that but forgot to mention. Though be careful when you change the slider, there's no reset option in case you want it as it came (not a biggie but a reset option would've been helpful).
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Text on my phone looks blurry and more like a 720p screen, particularly visible in landscape.
I've applied for a replacement. Let me see how that turns out to be.
edios123 said:
Text on my phone looks blurry and more like a 720p screen, particularly visible in landscape.
I've applied for a replacement. Let me see how that turns out to be.
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That's going to be the downfall of pentile. (The pixel arrangement of the screen) I don't think you have a bad display.
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That's going to be the downfall of pentile. (The pixel arrangement of the screen) I don't think you have a bad display.
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That's a bummer. Didn't know it'd turn out this bad.
I really hope I had a defective piece though. Text looks really bad on it. It ruins the experience of using a premium phone.
Guess I'm really bothered by it because my previous phones were the 6P and Note 4 and I use a retina MacBook Pro; all three had/have excellent displays).
I was very worried about the display when I have heard many saying that it is not sharp due to the pentile arrangement.
Just got mine few hours ago, and here is my personal opinion:
The display looked sharp and crisp, the pentile matrix is hardly visible unless you look at the screen very closely, but under normal usage distance, the display is excellent.
It is true that true resolution on any pentile display is less than the ideal, and this artcile explains it: https://medium.com/@suyashsrijan/1080p-pentile-is-not-true-1080p-9951b9e5c2ee#.w8v3hh7vz
According to it, the effective resolution becomes 326ppi rather than 401ppi.
FYI, resolution of iphone 6s is also 326ppi.
To me the screen of OP3 is way better than the OP2. Everything just looks nice. My OP2 was calibrated with kcal and OP3 has similar calibration. Only the dark grey is a little on the blue/green side.
Disappointed with pixelation caused by the PenTile matrix. Sure, the display is great (much more vibrant and brighter than my outgoing iPhone 6 Plus) but with my perfect near vision small text and edges of icons etc all appear slightly jagged. From a normal distance it's not too bothersome but I can always see it. The 1080p RGB matrix panel on the iPhone appears instantly sharper in comparison but I still wouldn't say its a match as the colour, contrast and brightness are all far better on the OP3.
Resolution is too low for VR, but for everyday tasks is perfect.
I am hesitating to buy a 1+3 device mainly for the mixed comments about screen/display quality.
Can any owner of 1+3 post some pictures of any classical webpage (bbc, cnn, xda, ...) magnified gradually, up to the maximum (125%, 150%, ..., 300%, ..)?
Thanks
Ive been using the G3, and i dont care what anyone says, there is a huge difference between 1080 and 1440. The text looks smudged. However I cant stream Youtube nor Anime at 720p or higher anywas so it wont matter for me.
Still on the fence of buying it.
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Ive been using the G3, and i dont care what anyone says, there is a huge difference between 1080 and 1440. The text looks smudged. However I cant stream Youtube nor Anime at 720p or higher anywas so it wont matter for me.
Still on the fence of buying it.
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If you don't like it's most visible part, then why consider buying it?

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