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I was wondering if I would be able to use a data-only sim card from T-Mobile in my 2nd SIM slot on my OP3. I have not received the phone yet but I was curious as to whether or not T-Mobile will recognize the device as a phone and not tablet. If anyone's done this before, please let me know.
The SIM card is coming from my Galaxy Tab A LTE and is activated.
Of course you can, it's like a super known use of dual-sim.. At least where I am from, Germany, data-sims are relatively cheap, compared to "full" sims (and if you go for like 6gb+ a month, you will only find like 50-60€ flats with sms+phone flat which I don't need).
I myself have got a 6GB Vodafone Data Card (says for tablet as well, xd) for 10€/month and a prepaid sim with 9ct/sms or 9ct/minute (I almost never call people, but when something important is up, I still am fully available with that card) on the t-mobile network.
edit: but I think there was something with 4g only being available on SIM1 ?? Well I use my data-sim in simslot1 and my phone-sim in simslot 2 and that way, it definitely works fine.
Should work.
One caveat from experience. Some time ago I bought a prepaid data SIM from Vodafone in Portugal. On the box it said only for tablet/mifi/pc or something like that. The vendor warned me also. I thought, bullsht, why would it make a difference, just going to pop it into my phone.
Long story short: it didn't work in my phone, until I manually changed the apn.
It would automatically set the apn reserved for data-only devices, and then it would apparently figure out I was using a phone and not allow me to log on. Once I changed the apn to the one reserved for phones, all was ok. Had to look up the apn online.
Just want to verify this phone works appropriately with Verizon. I see nothing on this from Verizon's website and nothing more than a few mentions in press releases. Does the lte-a work correctly? Can we access Verizon features like video calling? Does Verizon staff give you problems trying to register the phone?
Can't wait to hear some first hand experience.
wondering the same thing actually
https://opendevelopment.verizonwireless.com/device-showcase/device/7466
Looks good enough for me. I'm about to order one from clove, will update when it gets here if this thread still needs some answers. I hope volte works. Wifi calling would be a cherry on top.
Yup! Having it working on my XZ2 Compact. Didn't originally want to connect, so I flashed the OEM+OEM_Other.sin files from the US version and now I have Verizon working without a hitch. VoLTE is enabled for Verizon by default since it can only connect over LTE to begin with, but no WiFi calling. That being said and it being a dual SIM device, my secondary T-Mobile SIM has access to neither VoLTE or WiFi Calling. So I have calling set up for Verizon and Data over T-Mobile. You're able to do dual LTE standby on this device.
So now that this works with Verizon I should be able to buy the duel sim version and run both my personal At&t sim and my Verizon work sim card in this phone with duel standby? No flashing any software?
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[...] ... I flashed the OEM+OEM_Extra.sin files from the US version and now I have Verizon working without a hitch. [...]
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Does flashing these have any affect on DRM keys and such? I'm going to be getting a H813, but with UK software from clove so I'll need to do the same thing I'm guessing.
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Does flashing these have any affect on DRM keys and such? I'm going to be getting a H813, but with UK software from clove so I'll need to do the same thing I'm guessing.
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Are the frequency's for both of these phones the same? Only difference would be that one is duel sim and the other isnt correct?
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Are the frequency's for both of these phones the same? Only difference would be that one is duel sim and the other isnt correct?
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I believe so. H8324 is the Asian dual SIM and H8314 is the Western single sim. I wasn't checking all the bands but both phones have all three of Verizon's LTE bands supported
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I believe so. H8324 is the Asian dual SIM and H8314 is the Western single sim. I wasn't checking all the bands but both phones have all three of Verizon's LTE bands supported
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Just ordered the duel sim version and should have it by Wednesday. I currently have both an At&t personal phone and a Verizon work phone. Plan is to combine them both in this duel sim phone and only have to carry one haha. If it doesnt work out for whatever reason il just try google voice for my work number i suppose.
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Yup! Having it working on my XZ2 Compact. Didn't originally want to connect, so I flashed the OEM+OEM_Extra.sin files from the US version and now I have Verizon working without a hitch. VoLTE is enabled for Verizon by default since it can only connect over LTE to begin with, but no WiFi calling. That being said and it being a dual SIM device, my secondary T-Mobile SIM has access to neither VoLTE or WiFi Calling. So I have calling set up for Verizon and Data over T-Mobile. You're able to do dual LTE standby on this device.
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Having some issues with my XZ2 Compact Duel sim. With At&t I am only getting H and H+ connection and Verizon I cant seem to get anything to work. What APN did you pick for your Verizon sim, i have choices of CBS, FOTA, IMS and Internet.
So I have some more information that may help someone or may not. After talking with Verizon in depth about my issue with connecting to their service they have determined that the XZ2 Compact will not work on their service. Even with it being labeled as an Certified Open Market device on their own site and even being listed as Verizon Compatible on Bestbuys site and many others. They said noone there has any knowledge of the device coming to Verizon at all and were confused about it being posted on all the sites as being Certified. So i suppose it just wont be compatible lol. I guess im porting my 2nd # over to at&t and just not dealing with it because im sure as heck not going through the hassle of sending this phone and the chargers and cases back lol. If anyone has any success on getting this connected with Verizon please post, but im not hopeful lol.
mattnathaniel12 said:
So I have some more information that may help someone or may not. After talking with Verizon in depth about my issue with connecting to their service they have determined that the XZ2 Compact will not work on their service. Even with it being labeled as an Certified Open Market device on their own site and even being listed as Verizon Compatible on Bestbuys site and many others. They said noone there has any knowledge of the device coming to Verizon at all and were confused about it being posted on all the sites as being Certified. So i suppose it just wont be compatible lol. I guess im porting my 2nd # over to at&t and just not dealing with it because im sure as heck not going through the hassle of sending this phone and the chargers and cases back lol. If anyone has any success on getting this connected with Verizon please post, but im not hopeful lol.
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I love Verizon but I was actually thinking of going to AT&T myself tired of Verizon having such a limited phone selection. However there is a post in this thread by the name of themoveforward or something who claims he got this working on verizon you may want to try his methods before making the switch
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I love Verizon but I was actually thinking of going to AT&T myself tired of Verizon having such a limited phone selection. However there is a post in this thread by the name of themoveforward or something who claims he got this working on verizon you may want to try his methods before making the switch
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I tried sending him a message but haven't heard back. I'm assuming perhaps he was mistaken about what phone this post was referring to.
I believe carol_vzw is a Verizon employee who maintains this list: https://community.verizonwireless.com/docs/DOC-2843
The H8314 is listed on here as officially supported, but H8324(dual SIM) is not. You could try messaging her on there to see if they can add the H8324, or find out why it's not compatible.
Edit: looks like you've already seen this based on the comments
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I believe carol_vzw is a Verizon employee who maintains this list: https://community.verizonwireless.com/docs/DOC-2843
The H8314 is listed on here as officially supported, but H8324(dual SIM) is not. You could try messaging her on there to see if they can add the H8324, or find out why it's not compatible.
Edit: looks like you've already seen this based on the comments
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Yea the crazy thing is while talking to Verizon support yesterday i referenced that post and also Bestbuy having it labeled as for Verizon as well as the phone being posted on their Showcase directly on the Verizon site lol. The support guy kept putting me on hold and said he was taking the info as I was giving it to him to another support team directly and that they were all baffled at this information as none of them had any knowledge of this phone let alone it supposedly being compatible with Verizon at all. After about an hour into the call a woman picked up the phone and directed me to attempt to put my new sim card (when i swapped to this phone i had a micro-sim from my old phone not a nano-sim which this phone needs) directly into someone elses phone that has Verizon and attempt to activate the sim card on their phone, then attempt to reinsert it back into my phone to see if the network picked up. I will be attempting this in about an hour when I see a friend who has Verizon. I will update on whether this works or not.
mattnathaniel12 said:
Yea the crazy thing is while talking to Verizon support yesterday i referenced that post and also Bestbuy having it labeled as for Verizon as well as the phone being posted on their Showcase directly on the Verizon site lol. The support guy kept putting me on hold and said he was taking the info as I was giving it to him to another support team directly and that they were all baffled at this information as none of them had any knowledge of this phone let alone it supposedly being compatible with Verizon at all. After about an hour into the call a woman picked up the phone and directed me to attempt to put my new sim card (when i swapped to this phone i had a micro-sim from my old phone not a nano-sim which this phone needs) directly into someone elses phone that has Verizon and attempt to activate the sim card on their phone, then attempt to reinsert it back into my phone to see if the network picked up. I will be attempting this in about an hour when I see a friend who has Verizon. I will update on whether this works or not.
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If its any hope, I had a similar situation when I was trying to activate my Nexus 5x on Verizon. The people in the store didn't know that it existed and had no instructions on what to do. Also my first nano SIM phone, and they couldn't get it to activate. That's when I learned to never go to their stores for technical help. But it was worth it that time because they let me keep the sim card and later I was able to get someone on their tech support number who was able to activate it remotely. It could just be that the phone is new and information hasn't gotten around internally. Verizon seems pretty bad about that.
My xz2c single sim package got lost on Wednesday by DHL ? but I'm going to be dealing with this soon
Well no luck trying to activate the Sim with another Verizon phone. It seems that the phone just isn't in the Verizon system yet.
I have a UK single sim that I'm having no service with Verizon. Not sure if it's due to the phone being from the UK or something else with Verizon maybe. Trying to flash the US firmware but having problems with Newflasher.
If I have any luck I'll post back here.
Just posting for others who may be curious; I was able to get the phone working on Verizon today. Using the sim from an already activated pixel 2 initially worked for data and calling, and sending text messages, but I could not receive text messages. I grabbed an updated sim (says 4G LTE on it) and activated it on the pixel 2, then moved it to the xz2c and currently have everything working. It's only been a few hours so we'll see if it stays like this or if it goes the way of the htc U11 and has problems every couple of weeks. I'm using the verizon approved H8314 single sim model, not the dual sim model.
Interesting, thanks for the update! I'm using an activated sim from my Pixel 2 as well. It says 4G LTE on the sim too and my model xz2 compact is the same H8314. So maybe it is the UK firmware in my case, I'm going to keep trying to figure out my drivers issue this weekend to flash US firmware and see if that helps.
It has become apparent to a few of us who purchased G Power phones from Google Fi that their claim it is unlocked is not true. If you have them port your number over to a MVNO, such as I did, to Boom Mobile, (Verizon ), that sim card will only get you 2G, 1xRTT, with no data. There is a thread on Reddit , and Motorola forum. And, the claims are it would be difficult to rid the phone of the Fi rom and replace it with one that will truly unlock the phone.
This forum will not let me post those links now. However, users of this phone from Fi have tried everything but rooting, which of course, voids the warranty. And, the consensus is, it is installed firmware. Most bought these from Fi at a attractive price of $149, for a claimed, "unlocked", phone. $100 less then from Best Buy etc.
And, probable not that many complaints yet, as most stick with Fi.
Multiple emails to Google Fi, get you nowhere, as they will not admit to the problem.
As I, and others no little about rooting., we are looking for a simple answer to get Google Fi's rom off the phone, without a lot of hassle.
Any help would be appreciated. We all have tried; Factory, Network Reset etc. nothing so far works. If we had purchased the phone from another retail store unlocked this would not happen.
As you may know, Google Fi uses T-Mobile/Sprint/ Us Cellular networks on this phone, and their service is generally good. However, where I live and travel, Verizon just works more of the time. I put Boom Mobile's, (Verizon), sim card into my older, unlocked Moto G6, bought from Best Buy, which was on Google Fi for some time, and it works, 4G,without doing anything.
Thank you for any help.
I might have mis-spoke about a Moto G Power unlocked from non-network retail, it may have same problem, no conformation on this yet.
So I did the same as you. I purchase from Google FI. But I place my at&t sim on this phone and everything is working fine. Download speeds around 33 to 28mbps. Only thing I noticed is my calls are not Cristal clear. Other than that I had no issues so far
@PesSarmiento Thanks for that Info! It has been pretty consistently reported on various forums that the problem lies in trying to use the Google Fi sourced Moto G Power on the Verizon network. I have personally wondered what would happen if I inserted an AT&T SIM card, so that's good to know. It seems that Google promotes the G Power as an "unlocked" phone, only to find that is not so.
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It has become apparent to a few of us who purchased G Power phones from Google Fi that their claim it is unlocked is not true. If you have them port your number over to a MVNO, such as I did, to Boom Mobile, (Verizon ), that sim card will only get you 2G, 1xRTT, with no data. There is a thread on Reddit , and Motorola forum. And, the claims are it would be difficult to rid the phone of the Fi rom and replace it with one that will truly unlock the phone.
This forum will not let me post those links now. However, users of this phone from Fi have tried everything but rooting, which of course, voids the warranty. And, the consensus is, it is installed firmware. Most bought these from Fi at a attractive price of $149, for a claimed, "unlocked", phone. $100 less then from Best Buy etc.
And, probable not that many complaints yet, as most stick with Fi.
Multiple emails to Google Fi, get you nowhere, as they will not admit to the problem.
As I, and others no little about rooting., we are looking for a simple answer to get Google Fi's rom off the phone, without a lot of hassle.
Any help would be appreciated. We all have tried; Factory, Network Reset etc. nothing so far works. If we had purchased the phone from another retail store unlocked this would not happen.
As you may know, Google Fi uses T-Mobile/Sprint/ Us Cellular networks on this phone, and their service is generally good. However, where I live and travel, Verizon just works more of the time. I put Boom Mobile's, (Verizon), sim card into my older, unlocked Moto G6, bought from Best Buy, which was on Google Fi for some time, and it works, 4G,without doing anything.
Thank you for any help.
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I think I am going to guess that something else is going on here. If it wasn't unlocked, I don't think you would get any service at all, not just 2G, 1xRTT.
Has anyone tried a factory reset with the different provider sim in the device?
I am using mine on FI and don't currently have another sim to test.
boog said:
I think I am going to guess that something else is going on here. If it wasn't unlocked, I don't think you would get any service at all, not just 2G, 1xRTT.
Has anyone tried a factory reset with the different provider sim in the device?
I am using mine on FI and don't currently have another sim to test.
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Yes, many of us have done numerous factory resets. And yes, we've tried other sim cards, on a VZW MVNO in my case. Nothing works. I read of one person inserting an AT&T sim card and that did work for him.
I did get a response from Motorola Support today on the Lenovo Forum. It reads...
Senior MotoAgent
Re:LTE Not Working When moving from Google Fi to Red Pocket MVNO (using CDMA / VZW)
2020-08-14, 11:25 AM
Hi Yar33,
We checked that Google Fi Models having a problem with calls and data when moving to other carriers not just Verizon. These models will get fixed in future updates which is an update coming from us, not by Google. For now, we do not have any time frame for the update.
Best regards,
Zeke
Motorola Support
Yar33 said:
Yes, many of us have done numerous factory resets. And yes, we've tried other sim cards, on a VZW MVNO in my case. Nothing works. I read of one person inserting an AT&T sim card and that did work for him.
I did get a response from Motorola Support today on the Lenovo Forum. It reads...
Senior MotoAgent
Re:LTE Not Working When moving from Google Fi to Red Pocket MVNO (using CDMA / VZW)
2020-08-14, 11:25 AM
Hi Yar33,
We checked that Google Fi Models having a problem with calls and data when moving to other carriers not just Verizon. These models will get fixed in future updates which is an update coming from us, not by Google. For now, we do not have any time frame for the update.
Best regards,
Zeke
Motorola Support
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That actually sounds a bit more reasonable, thanks for sharing that.
The bit of testing on Fi for me appears to show that the phone switches to H or 3g for calls when connected to T-Mobile. Sprint acts like sprint and switches to 1x for phone calls.
But it has a hard time staying connected to T-mobile compared to Pixel devices I used in the past.
I hope they fix it soon.
So I recently got my visible sim card, and like you mentioned I have no service on Moto G Power. The sim card is working fine in a Galaxy note 9. Let me know if you got some fix to this problem. I will really appreciate if you can send me a PM with those links from the other forums
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So I recently got my visible sim card, and like you mentioned I have no service on Moto G Power. The sim card is working fine in a Galaxy note 9. Let me know if you got some fix to this problem. I will really appreciate if you can send me a PM with those links from the other forums
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isn't visible on Verizon? So you can't just switch a sim from one device to another like GSM.
Edit: This solution worked from a user u/yagyaxt1068 on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/i7djqx/guide_on_how_to_get_lte_working_on_verizon_again/
You'll have to unlock the bootloader and flash the Verizon ROM. The Retail/RETUS ROM doesn't solve the issue.
Meanwhile 6+ months later... They must have fixed the problem.
I just bought a 'used' Moto G Power (XT2041-4) off of eBay a few weeks ago. Two months old.
Private Seller. He made sure that the device was wiped properly so I didn't have to deal with FRP issues.
Android 10, Google Fi software channel.
I installed my SIM from Mint Mobile and was off to the races. I haven't had any connection issues (that I know of.)
I'm still learning my way around the device...
Seems last update did something, my G power now works with Boost Mobile sim? software channel still, Google Fi. Bought another G power from Best Buy, channel is, US retail. Both work fine Verizon LTE. Now always carry two identical phones, for safety backup. Waiting for Android 11 update to see if the channel changes on Fi phone?
Try disabling Google Fi app before trying on any other sim card. I'm using G power(bought from google) with ultra-mobile. Everything is working as expected.
Most likely because Ultra Mobile is using T- Mobile. Same as Fi.
Does the Software Channel in "about phone" page still show Google Fi or US retail?
I disabled the Fi app and still could not use Verizon MVNO before last update.
Did any of you guys set up the ****ing APN at all or what? If you have nothing except for basic "2G" its because you need the APN and the moment it's in there it will take a tenth of a second for it to pop up and that's it
Tried that' first phone from Google has "Google FI" as APN. and prefs are grayed out can't change it. Second Moto G from Best Buy has "VZWINTERNET". Found by; Settings, Network & internet, Mobile network, Advanced, Access Point Names. Seems Phone from Google the APN will stay the same if inserting a verizon sim card? Unlocked changes.
I recently smashed my old device in my car trunk and needed to find a replacement. I was on AT&T running a OnePlus 8. A friend just bought a Galaxy S21 and had his old Verizon LG G7, stock, sitting around so he sold it to me for $60. I thought I had seen somewhere that it would work so I threw my SIM card in. Turns out it wasn't compatible and it suspended my SIM/account for use on AT&T which was a pain to fix. Before I try to either try to get a refund from him or sell it to someone else, is there anything I can do? I know I read some stuff about cross flashing to other carrier software but that some stuff doesn't work and may stop working when AT&T drops 3G HSPA+ support in 2022.
Hi, I'm trying to use an eSim only (without inserting a physical sim) on my pixel 6 pro on AT&T, however I cannot get it to work. When I say not get it to work, I mean with eSim only there is no cell signal and no data signal. Physical sim works fine on both signal and cellular service. If there's another Us AT&T pixel 6 pro user who's using only the eSIM for service please respond and let me know whether or not eSim only works for you. Thanks.
Not an AT&T user here, am using a European carrier, just from anecdotal perspective: I also use eSim only and never had an issue on my P6 Pro. So it appears to be something carrier related.
I remember that I had to activate my eSim, maybe you also have to do this? Did you try out the eSim/your contract before using this phone?
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Not an AT&T user here, am using a European carrier, just from anecdotal perspective: I also use eSim only and never had an issue on my P6 Pro. So it appears to be something carrier related.
I remember that I had to activate my eSim, maybe you also have to do this? Did you try out the eSim/your contract before using this phone?
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Yes, I tried 3 times with the help of AT&T and we couldn't get it to work. I'm going to return the device for a new replacement to see if that fixes this issue. Thanks for replying.
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Yes, I tried 3 times with the help of AT&T and we couldn't get it to work. I'm going to return the device for a new replacement to see if that fixes this issue. Thanks for replying.
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Before going through the hassle of returning the device for a potential fault - do you have a family member or friend, whose simcard/esim you could try out? That way you can find out if your phone truly has a defect or if its your contract/the specific esim. Of course you can always let them replace your device, but that will take a couple days, maybe there are faster ways to narrow the problem down.
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Before going through the hassle of returning the device for a potential fault - do you have a family member or friend, whose simcard/esim you could try out? That way you can find out if your phone truly has a defect or if its your contract/the specific esim. Of course you can always let them replace your device, but that will take a couple days, maybe there are faster ways to narrow the problem down.
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i tried again today at another AT&T corp store and walked out of the store with it working as expected (wait till the end). the person helping did additional research on my issue and discovered the P6P shipped to me "was not activated" with the inserted physical sim (which i removed when i received the device). apparently, AT&T will park (or associate) a new device with a specific number when shipping to you vs. walking in to buy a device on an existing line. nonetheless, i'm going to return the phone because the data connection isn't working consistently; data is on and then after i go to website, data turns off. i'm probably going to send it back to AT&T next week.
Finally got the phone working, but will get an unlocked version later; this one is still going back to ATT.
I'm using an ESIM on AT&t and even originally got the phone My plan was to have a physical TracFone SIM card and my AT&t esim which is exactly what I had on my Pixel 5 and it worked great. Both SIM cards work great... when the other ones not active or inserted. It is impossible to use with both SIM cards like I did on my Pixel 5. Constant signal loss and the majority of the time. No signal at all. But as soon as I deactivate or remove a SIM card it starts working perfect.
I had a problem with provisioning eSim on my TMobile, well technically its sprint still, says tmobile esim but I am on sprint billing. Anyways, you need to maybe try to do it on another WiFi access point or something. I had issues with mine activating over Viasat2 satellite internet. I live in that area, its either LTE or satellite for internet. Had to tether to my work verizon phone to activate it on sprint/tmobile lol. If the connectivity to the esim server is not great, you'll split hairs until it is.
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I'm using an ESIM on AT&t and even originally got the phone My plan was to have a physical TracFone SIM card and my AT&t esim which is exactly what I had on my Pixel 5 and it worked great. Both SIM cards work great... when the other ones not active or inserted. It is impossible to use with both SIM cards like I did on my Pixel 5. Constant signal loss and the majority of the time. No signal at all. But as soon as I deactivate or remove a SIM card it starts working perfect.
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Exactly the same issue/behavior I had with my AT&T P6P on the AT&T network so I returned mine today. I'm contemplating a Fi version to see if it works for my use case.