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So I chose the pixel xl as my Note 7 replacement and although it's not a bad phone, honestly it's not nearly as good as the s7 edge or even the note 5 ( I haven't owned only Samsung phones those are just my last two).
I thought Google assistant (the main reason I chose this phone) was supposed to be a big deal but is there really any major difference than using "OK Google" on any other android phone? Also, no wireless charging or microsd slot? Seriously, what makes this phone worth the sticker price?
I know this sounds like just a rant but after reading all of the positive reviews about this phone, I feel really let down after actually using it and I honestly feel like I'm missing something major here. Anyone else?
JarkMackson said:
So I chose the pixel xl as my Note 7 replacement and although it's not a bad phone, honestly it's not nearly as good as the s7 edge or even the note 5 ( I haven't owned only Samsung phones those are just my last two).
I thought Google assistant (the main reason I chose this phone) was supposed to be a big deal but is there really any major difference than using "OK Google" on any other android phone? Also, no wireless charging or microsd slot? Seriously, what makes this phone worth the sticker price?
I know this sounds like just a rant but after reading all of the positive reviews about this phone, I feel really let down after actually using it and I honestly feel like I'm missing something major here. Anyone else?
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I think your perspective is right on. If your coming from a 3 year old phone, this phone is mind blowing. If your coming from a premium Samsung or iPhone, its meh at best. I upgrade every year and to me its just a small iteration. My Nexus 6 is still my favorite phone. The Pixel is a $500 phone.
My thoughts exactly. No micro SD slot (just to get user to store everything on googles cloud) no wireless chrging(though I give them credit for the 15 minute plug in giving 7 hours of use. The phone is efficient. I've gotten almost 5 hours of screen time with heavy use. The call quality seems to be better than Samsung. HD calls on verizon sound really good on my end and others have stated this is the clearest I've sounded to them in a while(maybe the design using glass at the top of the back for better antenna reception really does matter). I like googles launcher. But this phone starves for faetures like "Hidden folder" on the note 7, good lock thru galaxy apps, notification light blinks so slow i can unlock the phone before the light flashes. No always on screen. From the front the phone feels like i'm holding a galaxy S4. The chin is huge for no reason. 5.5 in screen is no longer "XL". Should make a 6 inch screen for the XL. CAmera is great. No numbered notifications(a little number in a bubble showing how many new texts or calls) no batter percentage option. Finger print sensor on the back is easier to use and it's fast. I guess all the fuss is about google assistant. To me it's not qite a flagship but lets remember. Google(like all other phone companies) need to you to give this 1 up when the next one drops. So guarantee the next one has wireless charging and or a SD slot. Just my opinion.
Golf c said:
I think your perspective is right on. If your coming from a 3 year old phone, this phone is mind blowing. If your coming from a premium Samsung or iPhone, its meh at best. I upgrade every year and to me its just a small iteration. My Nexus 6 is still my favorite phone. The Pixel is a $500 phone.
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Thank you! I really don't think it's a bad phone but the price and the hype is just crazy! It seriously feels cheap to me. I know it's all metal but because of the different textures on the back it feels like plastic unless it's cold. It's not even water resistant and the top and bottom bezels are way too big to look like a phone that costs this much.
If Samsung or apple came out with this phone they'd be in serious trouble but Google does it and it's some kind of revolution? The assistant isn't going to be even close to useful until it's available in the Play store for everyone. It's just missing so much that phones released 6 months ago costing $100-$200 less already have.
I was really excited for this phone after the note 7 thing and I'm just really disappointed. I'm keeping my note 7, fire hazard or not.
Google's phones will never, ever, ever include an SD card slot, ever again. This will always be a choice you have to make with Google, because they religiously believe in the cloud. I just tell people to get a Moto if they want a Nexus-like with SD card support. However, the unlimited photos and videos at full quality for free offered with the Pixel is amazing.
As for wireless charging, now that I have quick chargers everywhere I stopped using wireless charging with my Nexus 6 months ago. It's just sooooo sssllllooowwwwww. And the Pixel charges quite quickly, even on non-QC chargers. For instance, it seems to be sinking quite a bit of current from my powered hub, which just supplies 5V but can source about 3A per port. It can basically max out any charger that's not that stupid OnePlus proprietary one. Not a big deal.
I even like the bezels, because they give you a place to put your hands when holding it in landscape.
I find the suggestion that they should have released another 6" behemoth interesting, because I remember when the N6 was launched there was a lot of grousing that there were no small flagships left. The common refrain was 2 models, one 5.5" and one 5". As someone who loved the Nexus 6 in basically every respect, it's just a tiny bit too big. I am a 6' tall person with normal hands for that height, and I can't reach nearly the whole screen with one hand. It's not a one handed device, at all. The Pixel, on the other hand, seems to be a perfect size, in addition to being better in every respect compared to the at-the-time brilliant Nexus 6.
Also, you can totally get battery percentage with System UI Tuner. Just hold down the settings icon in the notification shade.
well, if you like the look and style of an IPhone, the Pixel XL is a good choice for you; yeah, no stereo speakers is a drag, but I like the Assistant, and it is the fastest phone I have ever used.
the hype is excessive, but thats what we get with everything now a days..
dtreth said:
Google's phones will never, ever, ever include an SD card slot, ever again. This will always be a choice you have to make with Google, because they religiously believe in the cloud. I just tell people to get a Moto if they want a Nexus-like with SD card support. However, the unlimited photos and videos at full quality for free offered with the Pixel is amazing.
As for wireless charging, now that I have quick chargers everywhere I stopped using wireless charging with my Nexus 6 months ago. It's just sooooo sssllllooowwwwww. And the Pixel charges quite quickly, even on non-QC chargers. For instance, it seems to be sinking quite a bit of current from my powered hub, which just supplies 5V but can source about 3A per port. It can basically max out any charger that's not that stupid OnePlus proprietary one. Not a big deal.
I even like the bezels, because they give you a place to put your hands when holding it in landscape.
I find the suggestion that they should have released another 6" behemoth interesting, because I remember when the N6 was launched there was a lot of grousing that there were no small flagships left. The common refrain was 2 models, one 5.5" and one 5". As someone who loved the Nexus 6 in basically every respect, it's just a tiny bit too big. I am a 6' tall person with normal hands for that height, and I can't reach nearly the whole screen with one hand. It's not a one handed device, at all. The Pixel, on the other hand, seems to be a perfect size, in addition to being better in every respect compared to the at-the-time brilliant Nexus 6.
Also, you can totally get battery percentage with System UI Tuner. Just hold down the settings icon in the notification shade.
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I've held down settings in the notification shade but nothing happens. I'm trying to get battery percentage but it does nothing.
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wase4711 said:
well, if you like the look and style of an IPhone, the Pixel XL is a good choice for you; yeah, no stereo speakers is a drag, but I like the Assistant, and it is the fastest phone I have ever used.
the hype is excessive, but thats what we get with everything now a days..
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Do you mind if I ask what you like so much about assistant? I really feel like I'm missing something but I can't find anything that makes it better than Google now.
eighty1 said:
I've held down settings in the notification shade but nothing happens. I'm trying to get battery percentage but it does nothing.
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Does your settings gear now have a dim wrench next to it? If so open settings and scroll down to the bottom. You should see "System UI Tuner". Or, you know, you can google it yourself since I gave you all of the relevant information.
dtreth said:
Google's phones will never, ever, ever include an SD card slot, ever again. This will always be a choice you have to make with Google, because they religiously believe in the cloud. I just tell people to get a Moto if they want a Nexus-like with SD card support. However, the unlimited photos and videos at full quality for free offered with the Pixel is amazing.
As for wireless charging, now that I have quick chargers everywhere I stopped using wireless charging with my Nexus 6 months ago. It's just sooooo sssllllooowwwwww. And the Pixel charges quite quickly, even on non-QC chargers. For instance, it seems to be sinking quite a bit of current from my powered hub, which just supplies 5V but can source about 3A per port. It can basically max out any charger that's not that stupid OnePlus proprietary one. Not a big deal.
I even like the bezels, because they give you a place to put your hands when holding it in landscape.
I find the suggestion that they should have released another 6" behemoth interesting, because I remember when the N6 was launched there was a lot of grousing that there were no small flagships left. The common refrain was 2 models, one 5.5" and one 5". As someone who loved the Nexus 6 in basically every respect, it's just a tiny bit too big. I am a 6' tall person with normal hands for that height, and I can't reach nearly the whole screen with one hand. It's not a one handed device, at all. The Pixel, on the other hand, seems to be a perfect size, in addition to being better in every respect compared to the at-the-time brilliant Nexus 6.
Also, you can totally get battery percentage with System UI Tuner. Just hold down the settings icon in the notification shade.
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Now see here. This is a perfect example. It's all a matter of taste and perspective. The previous google phone users seem to love the Pixel/XL . I come from a long line of Sammy Note phones. Honestly I thought the Note edge was a great phone but with a case on it ..it was a bit to wide for me. actually to me the S6 edge plus was the perfect phone size wise and aesthetically. the 5.7 inch screen and the glass back were perfect. I also have the moto Z force just for the mods. When I think about it, with no bezels and a shortened chin the 5.7 inch screen of the S6 edge+ was basically perfect for me. As far as "wireless" charging I did have to have "fast wireless charging". It's not as fast as a cord with rapid charge but sometimes you just want to sit the phone down and get a quick boost. Not that I'm back to plugging in I do miss fast wireless. Again the assistant is cool, the camera is really decent. anyway.. to each his own. On edit.. thanks for the SUI heads up.. I like it. However,, that mini number in the battery is virtually unreadable.
JarkMackson said:
Thank you! I really don't think it's a bad phone but the price and the hype is just crazy! It seriously feels cheap to me. I know it's all metal but because of the different textures on the back it feels like plastic unless it's cold. It's not even water resistant and the top and bottom bezels are way too big to look like a phone that costs this much.
If Samsung or apple came out with this phone they'd be in serious trouble but Google does it and it's some kind of revolution? The assistant isn't going to be even close to useful until it's available in the Play store for everyone. It's just missing so much that phones released 6 months ago costing $100-$200 less already have.
I was really excited for this phone after the note 7 thing and I'm just really disappointed. I'm keeping my note 7, fire hazard or not.
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The one thing I noticed straigh away was the crazy fast response everything on the pixel has compared to the note 7, there would be so many times that the Note 7 would visibly stutter even just a second here and there. Things like opening up and typing on the keybaord instantly would create this minute lag in the interface. I am very picky when it comes to that so I noticed straight away the Pixel is just fast, it doesn't stutter or lag like the note 7 did. Also small things like the speaker is FAR better than the Note 7, it's louder and fully than the 6p even. I hate edge screens too, I couldn't stand the note 7 in that regard, felt uncomfortable to hold compared to the pixel. I'm just so happy that I got a phone that just works ALL THE TIME. That's why I paid the extra $100 over the note 7 for the pixel. And I'm also betting on Google assistant (AI) becoming FAR more integrated and more powerful. All other phones will be missing out I think. Hardware can only go so far, software on the other hand....
Man who needs an SD card now?? I can finally video tape everything in 4k and not worry about memory or ever loosing the footage because it'll always be on the cloud! I legit video tape everything I can now!
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OnlinePredator said:
The one thing I noticed straigh away was the crazy fast response everything on the pixel has compared to the note 7, there would be so many times that the Note 7 would visibly stutter even just a second here and there. Things like opening up and typing on the keybaord instantly would create this minute lag in the interface. I am very picky when it comes to that so I noticed straight away the Pixel is just fast, it doesn't stutter or lag like the note 7 did. Also small things like the speaker is FAR better than the Note 7, it's louder and fully than the 6p even. I hate edge screens too, I couldn't stand the note 7 in that regard, felt uncomfortable to hold compared to the pixel. I'm just so happy that I got a phone that just works ALL THE TIME. That's why I paid the extra $100 over the note 7 for the pixel. And I'm also betting on Google assistant (AI) becoming FAR more integrated and more powerful. All other phones will be missing out I think. Hardware can only go so far, software on the other hand....
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I agree on the speed, the note did stutter on me from time to time any this phone doesn't at all really (although I have had a few force closes, possibly the apps fault). The assistant has promise but let's be honest, it's no better than Google now at the moment and by the time it is better, it'll be available on every android phone.
The phone itself to me is just last year's Cadillac with this year's Mercedes price tag.
evobyte said:
Man who needs an SD card now?? I can finally video tape everything in 4k and not worry about memory or ever loosing the footage because it'll always be on the cloud! I legit video tape everything I can now!
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A lot of people do. Really why drain your battery to access files on line rather than an sd card using less battery power and files on your sd card are a lot safer than the hackable cloud. And there is the extra data you use to access files on line. Sd cards use absolutely no data to access your files and do not eat up battery power so.
1. Sd card files safer than cloud.
2. Sd card uses no data to access your files, so does not eat up your data plan = saves you $$$$
3. Sd card files use less battery power than accessing files on the cloud.
I get that, I'm blessed with unlimited with Verizon but I always only upload to cloud while charging. If anyone is interested in true unlimited data with Verizon, I have an extra line available. I'll only charge 80 a month
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Get over it. SD cards are going away.
That's the great thing about Android! Choice. Different strokes for different folks. There will be a phone out there that suits you. Find it and embrace it! ?
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JarkMackson said:
I agree on the speed, the note did stutter on me from time to time any this phone doesn't at all really (although I have had a few force closes, possibly the apps fault). The assistant has promise but let's be honest, it's no better than Google now at the moment and by the time it is better, it'll be available on every android phone.
The phone itself to me is just last year's Cadillac with this year's Mercedes price tag.
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Well hard to say, as it has cpu that is newer than last years phone, also has better cameras than phones from last year, and software you can't compare to those phones either. And when compares to phones this year, it's kinda the same. I agree it is overpriced, but they are doing it because they can. If you want the best android experience available, there is only one phone. If you don't want to pay that much then there are great alternatives.
Waterproof - Owned S7 and Note, never seemed to EVER need it unless I was showing someone
Wireless charging - have a stand and still use the cable 90% of the time since it's faster
SD Card - I could see this one as a big point, but most people I know never fill up their phones and the ones who do could easily clear up half of it and improve performance by deleting unused apps and cleaning up the gallery, plus with 120 gigs + unlimited cloud I'm goooood
Gimmicks have made people wanting stuff they use maybe once every 4 months. "I can't have it therefore I need it"
IMO Software performance / day to day use > everything else .
Note 7 is a beast phone but I could honestly say at least once a day I get caught in huge lag spikes when trying open snapchat for a quick photo or even the camera app.
Sacrificing gimmicks for day to day use is worth it 100%
meccadon123 said:
Now see here. This is a perfect example. It's all a matter of taste and perspective. The previous google phone users seem to love the Pixel/XL . I come from a long line of Sammy Note phones. Honestly I thought the Note edge was a great phone but with a case on it ..it was a bit to wide for me. actually to me the S6 edge plus was the perfect phone size wise and aesthetically. the 5.7 inch screen and the glass back were perfect. I also have the moto Z force just for the mods. When I think about it, with no bezels and a shortened chin the 5.7 inch screen of the S6 edge+ was basically perfect for me. As far as "wireless" charging I did have to have "fast wireless charging". It's not as fast as a cord with rapid charge but sometimes you just want to sit the phone down and get a quick boost. Not that I'm back to plugging in I do miss fast wireless. Again the assistant is cool, the camera is really decent. anyway.. to each his own. On edit.. thanks for the SUI heads up.. I like it. However,, that mini number in the battery is virtually unreadable.
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I gave you what you want, sorry. Make the whole display bigger, maybe that will work. Or just open the shade if you need a specific percentage.
I noticed two major differences (so far) between my old Nexus 6P and the new Pixel 2 XL (my first Pixel, so I do not know if the Pixel 2 is different from the original Pixel):
- the recovery menu does not have a menu item to clear the cache partition;
- there is no option to require a PIN or pattern before the operating system boots.
I'd like to know also.
Which one has better loudspeakers?
Which one is easier to read under direct sunlight?
Which one has deeper/stronger vibration sensation?
Feels better than the other?
etc.
etc.
etc.
It's really hard to justify $900+ for a Pixel 2 XL just to get water resistance and slightly faster hardware.
CZ Eddie said:
I'd like to know also.
Which one has better loudspeakers?
Which one is easier to read under direct sunlight?
Which one has deeper/stronger vibration sensation?
Feels better than the other?
etc.
etc.
etc.
It's really hard to justify $900+ for a Pixel 2 XL just to get water resistance and slightly faster hardware.
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stevemw said:
I noticed two major differences (so far) between my old Nexus 6P and the new Pixel 2 XL (my first Pixel, so I do not know if the Pixel 2 is different from the original Pixel):
- the recovery menu does not have a menu item to clear the cache partition;
- there is no option to require a PIN or pattern before the operating system boots.
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There is no longer a cache partition on newer versions of android, I believe this goes for all phones running Oreo and up. As for the pin before the OS boots up, I never used or knew about that with my 6P, unless you're talking about having to enter a pin at the lockscreen after boot. I would have to say the 6Ps speakers were a little bit better in my opinion. The Pixel XL 2 is definitely better in direct sunlight. As for the vibration, I feel like both are a little weak but the 6Ps vibration was terrible until it was increased using a kernel tuner, the XL 2 on the other hand is already at 100%, I'd have to give vibration strength to the XL2. The XL2 feels much lighter in my hand compared to 6P. The 6P is also plagued with the dreaded early shutdown issue due to badly manufactured battery, mine used to shut down as high as 50%
2 main points to me are.....the Nexus 6P was a throttling POS with terrible battery life, the Pixel 2 XL is not. Everything else is whatevs.
The end.
I had 6P and it was shutting off randomly. Pixel 2XL was the obvious choice for a replacement. After using it for about 3 weeks, I must say that the battery life is superb, especially compared to the 6P. I would have to use this phone HEAVILY throughout the day for me to drain it out. And the camera is fantastic as well.
The 6P was my first ever Android phone and maybe it was just being new to the Android world in general but I absolutely loved that phone. It did start shutting down around 30% and had some heating/throttling issues, but other than that I loved that thing! Speakers were insanely loud, PureNexus on that was super smooth and stable, and I loved the design of it overall.
Going to the XL right after wasn't too bad except for the partitions causing slower development. Seeing all the stuff available for the 6P, it was kind of a let down not having as much stuff to modify and tweak.
Went to the OnePlus 5/5T and they were good but the camera on the 2XL got me to switch.
Now that devs are more familiar with the A/B layout, development isn't so lacking and it's not too bad on the user's end either. I'm really satsified with this phone, no screen issues like many are having and the blue tint is very slight, so it's a non-issue for me.
All-in-all, I probably could have went from the 6P to the 2XL, skipping the OG XL, but it is what it is. I guess this way I was able to get familiar with the slot layouts myself with the XL, so dealing with the 2XL didn't feel like such an obstacle to overcome.
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There is no longer a cache partition on newer versions of android, I believe this goes for all phones running Oreo and up. As for the pin before the OS boots up, I never used or knew about that with my 6P, unless you're talking about having to enter a pin at the lockscreen after boot. I would have to say the 6Ps speakers were a little bit better in my opinion. The Pixel XL 2 is definitely better in direct sunlight. As for the vibration, I feel like both are a little weak but the 6Ps vibration was terrible until it was increased using a kernel tuner, the XL 2 on the other hand is already at 100%, I'd have to give vibration strength to the XL2. The XL2 feels much lighter in my hand compared to 6P. The 6P is also plagued with the dreaded early shutdown issue due to badly manufactured battery, mine used to shut down as high as 50%
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I've used iPhone all my life and this Nexus 6P is my first android phone. Got it after I saw the neighbour kid using it.
Damn the speakers are super loud.
The pure Google OS is superbly fine.
Everything is great. I don't have have any battery issue + the fast charging is an awesome thing for someone like me.
BUT, THE VIBRATION SUCKS.
I'm a Motorcyclist. And I loved iPhone for it. The vibration is so deep that you cannot miss a call.
Nexus 6P is fine when I'm driving but any other time when I'm on motorcycle, or home or anywhere the vibration does not even feel in pocket.
How did you managed to increase it?
Any pointers? That'd be very helpful.
I was thinking of getting a smartband to get notified for calls. [emoji849]
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xplodee said:
I've used iPhone all my life and this Nexus 6P is my first android phone. Got it after I saw the neighbour kid using it.
Damn the speakers are super loud.
The pure Google OS is superbly fine.
Everything is great. I don't have have any battery issue + the fast charging is an awesome thing for someone like me.
BUT, THE VIBRATION SUCKS.
I'm a Motorcyclist. And I loved iPhone for it. The vibration is so deep that you cannot miss a call.
Nexus 6P is fine when I'm driving but any other time when I'm on motorcycle, or home or anywhere the vibration does not even feel in pocket.
How did you managed to increase it?
Any pointers? That'd be very helpful.
I was thinking of getting a smartband to get notified for calls. [emoji849]
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Root it, install a custom kernel like Ex, Flash, or Kylo use the EXKM app, and increase the vibration settings. Done
My take on the 6P vs 2 XL?
I love my 6P running Pure Nexus, Flash kernel, and su, finely tuned. It's fast, reliable, lots of custom options, and I get good batt life for my use (4.5 - 5.5 hrs sot).
My 2 XL is rooted, running Flash kernel, and gets good batt life for my use (4.5 hr sot +/- 30 mins) with no cust rom, and few custom options.
I enjoy the 2 XL way more, it is noticeably faster, and I've nearly forgotten my 6P which is a great device that doesn't need upgraded even running a 6 month old Cust Rom.
Could you live with the 6P and save $800? Sure.
But man could've just stayed on the earth looking up at the moon too... I'm really glad we went there!
Badger50 said:
Root it, install a custom kernel like Ex, Flash, or Kylo use the EXKM app, and increase the vibration settings. Done
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Haha. I have no idea how to do all that and mainly the fear of messing up the phone.
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xplodee said:
Haha. I have no idea how to do all that and mainly the fear of messing up the phone.
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Follow this guide, and you'll be all set :good:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Nexus 6P was absolutely horrendous with outdoor viewing. Even with brightness all the way up it was abysmal to read in sunlight.. Pixel 2 XL blows it away.
Nexus 6P as mentioned before was a throttling heat generator
Nexus 6P battery was garbage
Nexus 6P loud speaker was terrible
The oleophobic coating wore off quickly and the phone became a smudge magnet.
Nexus 6P on T-Mobile was annoying with modem randomly deciding it doesn't want to connect to the mobile network anymore due to band 12 ****ery and requiring a reboot to connect to the mobile network again.
Nexus 6P didn't age gracefully that's for sure.
What I'd really like to know is if the 6P with the "high brightness mod" found in kernels (thanks to Flar2) is brighter than the Pixel 2 XL stock max brightness, which will not be getting that mod anytime soon (if ever).
The high brightness mod on my 6P really, really cranks up the brightness and works super well when set to automatic.
CZ Eddie said:
What I'd really like to know is if the 6P with the "high brightness mod" found in kernels (thanks to Flar2) is brighter than the Pixel 2 XL stock max brightness, which will not be getting that mod anytime soon (if ever).
The high brightness mod on my 6P really, really cranks up the brightness and works super well when set to automatic.
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Yep, my 6p with HBM on, is slightly brighten than my P2XL at full brightness. But it's not a drastic difference in my opinion.
Truly and deeply, batter camera, battery life, and battery longevity. The 2XL being a 10nm device puts the power and efficiency double that than the 6p on paper. Real world.... It's better and longer.
All of the other yada yada's:
- Better built
- Water resistant
- Better Dac
- Photo/Video storage
- smaller bezels
Yeah, can't think of anything else that matters you can't do without root.
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Except for diminished battery life I had no real problem with my 6P, but it was good to replace it with the Pixel 2 XL. Booting up the 6P compared to the speed of the 2XL makes me smile on the occasions I do shut down.
styckx said:
Nexus 6P was absolutely horrendous with outdoor viewing. Even with brightness all the way up it was abysmal to read in sunlight.. Pixel 2 XL blows it away.
Nexus 6P as mentioned before was a throttling heat generator
Nexus 6P battery was garbage
Nexus 6P loud speaker was terrible
The oleophobic coating wore off quickly and the phone became a smudge magnet.
Nexus 6P on T-Mobile was annoying with modem randomly deciding it doesn't want to connect to the mobile network anymore due to band 12 ****ery and requiring a reboot to connect to the mobile network again.
Nexus 6P didn't age gracefully that's for sure.
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Yeah, mine developed battery issues very quickly before it was replaced.
I never had any problems with the 6P band 12 on T-Mobile. I was hoping to see greater throughput on the 2XL but it's generally about the same. There are times when the 2XL outshines the 6P, but I can't say it's consistent.
xplodee said:
Haha. I have no idea how to do all that and mainly the fear of messing up the phone.
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It's pretty easy, I'm not super good with this stuff, but the instructions are good to follow. There's a Guide and a Index thread by heisenberg that has everything you will need. The 6P is a fun phone to mod. You should do it
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Haha. I have no idea how to do all that and mainly the fear of messing up the phone.
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Just a warning, if you decide to increase the vibration strength, try not to put it past 75-80% you could damage the vibration motor if you go higher.
Thanks for heads-up.
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I own a note 9 and think it’s a great phone, great features but the camera lets it down.
I don’t use the spen much at all so that’s wasted.
I have a itch to get a 3XL but not sure if if should due to the issues with speakers, screen burn and video recording (mic). For the price you pay there should not be any of these issues out of the box.
Just wanted to hear your thoughts and if you have moved from a note 9 to the 3XL, was it a good move?
Thanks.
I actually had the Note 9 and just switched to the 3 XL. I must say I do not regret it. As much as I love Samsung, I did miss my pixel. The software is just so smooth, plus the camera and crazy call screen feature (which was my main reason) make this thing a beast. I must say the 4GB of RAM is my only downside so far. The battery life is nothing like with the Note9 but I really don't miss it too much. The ability to have working root and magisk is so nice. In the end you gotta see what features you're looking for mostly. I don't have any issues with my speakers or with the video recording but we'll see, I only had this baby for a week or so.
I came from the Note 9 about a month ago and have no regrets. As great as the Note 9 is I am enjoying the 3 XL much more. I had the Pixel 1 for over a year and bounced back and forth from the 2 and Note 8 for a while. The thing that really drove me back to the 3 XL was the camera, it's just so much better than the Note 9 in nearly every way. The zoom on the Note is a bit better but not by much. The only things I do miss is pro mode on the camera and headphone jack. But after using this phone I quickly remembered how great pure Android is with the stock phone and messaging apps along with the unlocked bootloader. The other things that were annoying to me with the Note are the curved screen and the taller aspect ratio it has. It's a beautiful phone but far too fragile for the money.
As for your concerns with the speakers Google has fixed them with the December update. Mine were a bit muffled sounding but sound great now. As for burn in I have none. The screen is made by Samsung so that should speak for itself. I do hide the nav bar though. I haven't recorded much video but what I have sounds and looks fine to me, nothing like the YouTube reviews I saw.
I say give the XL 3 a try. I don't think you will be disappointed.
These are the two phones I was trying to decide between coming from my S7 Edge. Being with Samsung for about 2 years, I did enjoy the experience, but I hated the duplicated apps and the software updates. The straight Android experience, same day updates and a great camera, even with this notch the Pixel 3 XL won out over the Note 9 when I put my money down. I do wish however that Google would get their crap together and release features in "North" America when they do and not just America. There is no reason why in Canada we don't have Call Screen yet. My phone is set to US English. Ridiculous. Great phone though so far.
I have both if that counts. They both do things differently and I like both in their own certain ways.
Note 9 does everything decent with exception to the exceptional screen (If you don't get bad uniformity/glue issues like I have). Note 9 screen brightness is crazy good, can see everything even in direct sunlight and colors and viewing angles are the best out there. Note also gives you sdcard, headphone jack, s-pen and a big long lasting battery. Note 9 aspect ratio is a little odd but that is something very minor to me.
Then there is the pixel 3 xl. I bought the 3 xl to use while Samsung is fixing my note 9 and did not expect to love it like i do now! While on paper it looks weak it is not! Cannot hold a candle to my note 9 specs with 512 gb of storage and 8 gb of ram. Pixel screen is decent, not quite note 9 great but clearly acceptable and a lot has to do with brightness just not being the same as the note. Colors are represented well though. Then comes everything else, you don't get sdcard, headphone jack, a fancy pen or quite of big of battery as the note but the camera. The camera with google's software is unreal. I was like it will be a little better then note and I will miss all the note features, NOPE. The camera is out of bounds! The sharpness, the colors, actual representation of your subject is spot on. Then comes night sight, wow it continues to impress. While it may not keep 20 apps all loaded in background with the lack of ram or last quite the time frame that the note does it is a treat to use. There is just something about pure stock android and a camera that is to die for. Also worth mentioning is you can easily root it. Running a kernel, setting up custom color profiles to make the screen look like note, squeeze function for highly used apps and shortcuts is extremely nice. Needless to say I am going to end up keeping both of them for quite sometime! Note for content watching and some daily use and pixel 3 xl for when I need to take photos and some everyday use as well. Hope this helps you
Switched from note 8. No regrets. The only thing I miss is headphone jack.
bigup7 said:
I own a note 9 and think it’s a great phone, great features but the camera lets it down.
I don’t use the spen much at all so that’s wasted.
I have a itch to get a 3XL but not sure if if should due to the issues with speakers, screen burn and video recording (mic). For the price you pay there should not be any of these issues out of the box.
Just wanted to hear your thoughts and if you have moved from a note 9 to the 3XL, was it a good move?
Thanks.
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From my experience with the pixel 3 xl, is you're going to love it except for the battery life. it's average!
Everything else is premium including the screen. Speakers are loud but not as clear as my iphone xs. UI is zippy but does have its stutters sometimes. 4GB is ok, not a deal breaker by any means. The camera is amazing just like everyone says.
Ive compared it to the iPhone xs, and the pixel is guaranteed to get a better shot in all situations.
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From my experience with the pixel 3 xl, is you're going to love it except for the battery life. it's average!
Everything else is premium including the screen. Speakers are loud but not as clear as my iphone xs. UI is zippy but does have its stutters sometimes. 4GB is ok, not a deal breaker by any means. The camera is amazing just like everyone says.
Ive compared it to the iPhone xs, and the pixel is guaranteed to get a better shot in all situations.
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The battery life is very good for me especially for the battery being smaller then note. Yesterday battery went from 100% at 8:30 to 32% at midnight. That's pretty good in my book. Note 9 beats it still by a little but pixel has been great for me for smaller battery size
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The battery life is very good for me especially for the battery being smaller then note. Yesterday battery went from 100% at 8:30 to 32% at midnight. That's pretty good in my book. Note 9 beats it still by a little but pixel has been great for me for smaller battery size
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That depends on your usage . Last night my battery went from 88% to 68% without using it. I'm going to try a factory reset . But my biggest issue that I've noticed while watching YouTube is that the top notification bar is burnt in to the screen. I'm not sure if this will go away eventually or its permanent.
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That depends on your usage . Last night my battery went from 88% to 68% without using it. I'm going to try a factory reset . But my biggest issue that I've noticed while watching YouTube is that the top notification bar is burnt in to the screen. I'm not sure if this will go away eventually or its permanent.
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You have a photo?? My note 9 screen needs replaced due to screen issues and curious if my pixel will eventually have the same issues. But yeah that's way too much drop without using it. Should drop 10% max overnight without usage. I forgot to plug in one night at 15% late and woke up with it at 5% 8 hours later
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You have a photo?? My note 9 screen needs replaced due to screen issues and curious if my pixel will eventually have the same issues. But yeah that's way too much drop without using it. Should drop 10% max overnight without usage. I forgot to plug in one night at 15% late and woke up with it at 5% 8 hours later
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I don't have a photo but it's only visible in a dark room. If it becomes much visible, I'll just have to get a replacement.
It seems Google really enjoys sending replacements out ?
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I don't have a photo but it's only visible in a dark room. If it becomes much visible, I'll just have to get a replacement.
It seems Google really enjoys sending replacements out [emoji848]
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Yeah and they sent me 7 pixel 2 xl before I had one with a good screen lol
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OP here. I took the advise and bought a pixel 3 XL.
Must admit, after few hours using it I had it back in the box ready to be sent back as I found it lacking a lot of features that the note 9 had. Main one was lack of notification LED.
Note 9 has every feature under the sun and one gets spoilt with these features.
I then tried the software notification apps like pixel pulse etc but they not that good and were hit and miss
Today I woke up and thought I’d give the pixel a try again and now having used it for the day I do like it very much. I’m using AOD which is fine and a good substitute to the notification LED.
Feature wise is doesn’t have all it all but it has enough and is fast and efficient.
I managed 7.5hr SoT today with AOD on and adaptive battery on aswell which surprised me, I hope it gets better or stays around this figure.
My note 9 is packed and ready to be sold. Yes I will miss the epic screen, audio, no notch, headphone jack, sd card but it was just the software side of things that lured me to the pixel and Timely updates.
I couldn’t get over the poor camera quality of the note 9, such a high end phone with a ok camera.
I welcome the smaller form factor of the XL. It’s noticeable in the hand for sure.
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OP here. I took the advise and bought a pixel 3 XL.
Must admit, after few hours using it I had it back in the box ready to be sent back as I found it lacking a lot of features that the note 9 had. Main one was lack of notification LED.
Note 9 has every feature under the sun and one gets spoilt with these features.
I then tried the software notification apps like pixel pulse etc but they not that good and were hit and miss
Today I woke up and thought I’d give the pixel a try again and now having used it for the day I do like it very much. I’m using AOD which is fine and a good substitute to the notification LED.
Feature wise is doesn’t have all it all but it has enough and is fast and efficient.
I managed 7.5hr SoT today with AOD on and adaptive battery on aswell which surprised me, I hope it gets better or stays around this figure.
My note 9 is packed and ready to be sold. Yes I will miss the epic screen, audio, no notch, headphone jack, sd card but it was just the software side of things that lured me to the pixel and Timely updates.
I couldn’t get over the poor camera quality of the note 9, such a high end phone with a ok camera.
I welcome the smaller form factor of the XL. It’s noticeable in the hand for sure.
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Glad to hear you like it! And just turn the notch off on the pixel and you will be fine! But yes I was also disappointed in the camera on the note 9
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I managed 7.5hr SoT today with AOD on and adaptive battery on aswell which surprised me, I hope it gets better or stays around this figure.
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Do you have brightness set at 20% or something?
I have mine set quite high as I hate looking at dim screens, but I never get anywhere near that kind of SOT. If I get to 4 hours I'm really, really lucky.
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Do you have brightness set at 20% or something?
I have mine set quite high as I hate looking at dim screens, but I never get anywhere near that kind of SOT. If I get to 4 hours I'm really, really lucky.
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I keep mine on 50% or so and can manage 5 hours or so but not sure about 7.5 either
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I get great battery lol
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That's incredible. I get no where close to that. 5.5 max
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Glad to hear you like it! And just turn the notch off on the pixel and you will be fine! But yes I was also disappointed in the camera on the note 9
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I don’t mind the notch to be honest. Got over it quite quickly.
Hey guys, I was a Pixel XL user during the past one and a half year until my phone got bricked by itself (without an apparent reason) and I'm currently looking to get a new phone. So as mentioned in the title, I'm wondering if it is worth it to get a Pixel 2 XL right now and I would really like to get the opinion of users that have been using the phone for a while.
I have to admit that I was not really fully satisfied with my Pixel XL especially in terms of durability. The battery life became really bad after the first year and I was getting overheating issues especially during summer, not to mention the built quality which was far inferior to other phones that I owned during the same period such as the iPhone 7 plus and the Galaxy S7 edge. The only good side compared to those two phones was the camera and the stock android experience and updates.
I would like to know from you guys if the Pixel 2 XL is still a good phone in 2019, how did it age ? what about battery life ? the screen ? overheat ?
I'm actually really confused between getting a Pixel 2 XL (I can't stand the notch on the 3) or waiting for the Galaxy S10.
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Hey guys, I was a Pixel XL user during the past one and a half year until my phone got bricked by itself (without an apparent reason) and I'm currently looking to get a new phone. So as mentioned in the title, I'm wondering if it is worth it to get a Pixel 2 XL right now and I would really like to get the opinion of users that have been using the phone for a while.
I have to admit that I was not really fully satisfied with my Pixel XL especially in terms of durability. The battery life became really bad after the first year and I was getting overheating issues especially during summer, not to mention the built quality which was far inferior to other phones that I owned during the same period such as the iPhone 7 plus and the Galaxy S7 edge. The only good side compared to those two phones was the camera and the stock android experience and updates.
I would like to know from you guys if the Pixel 2 XL is still a good phone in 2019, how did it age ? what about battery life ? the screen ? overheat ?
I'm actually really confused between getting a Pixel 2 XL (I can't stand the notch on the 3) or waiting for the Galaxy S10.
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I have the Pixel 2XL for now 2 months. It's a panda version, the best version with the orange power button it's look so cool.
I had a Nexus 6P during 2 years before the battery life goes down (the nexus 6p's battery symptoms) 90% to 0% in 1sc and a reload time of 30sc from 0 to 100%, and it's not a joke.
I had the choice between a Pixel 3XL or the Pixel 2XL. The 3 is and still expensive but the noth is not a issue for me. But after some weeks some issue appears on the 3XL and at the same time I could have -50% on a Panda version of the Pixel 2XL with a fabric case. My choice was done.
-Great battery life (before the january patch,thx google:crying I was between 7-8h of SOT, now with the january's patch is more like 5-6h.
- Still smooth
-Great camera but it has more noise than the Nexus 6p camera.
-Excellent screen, no burn issue and no blue effect. If you don't pass your time at full brightness, it should be good.
-No overheat (no game installed)
It's an excellent phone in 2019. Even 3 years old, my old and venerable 6P still smooth like the first day.
Its worth it only if you get it cheaper .. I came to Pixel 2 Xl after using many phones .. It has only three pro for me 1) stock speedy software and 2) camera which is excellent( best would be overstatement ) 3) battery is good( 6-7 hour screen on time )
If talk about negatives then
1) Speaker is ok but call quality from ear piece and mic is average ..I struggle to hear other side in noisy environment especially when using WhatsApp
2) limited storage 64GB and others devices with same price often have 128GB and some even support SD card
3) Design is boring
4) Display is bright only when you drag slider to 70/80 percent and even some midrange phone have more bright display than pixel 2 xl
5) get warm when using phone after hotspot is active
Its good device but far from perfect
If your avoiding the notch of the pixel 3xl then if go with the pixel 2 xl till they get ride of the notch.
What I'm waiting for but checkout
Check this out see what you think though see what everything is worth to you.
https://youtu.be/cpIEWsQpRMk
Htc use to be the phone for me but the Nexus and pixel since they gone dual speaker is the best I've come across. Now wish they would add a ir blaster for those moments I can't find the TV/audio remote
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Rajaasim1980 said:
Its worth it only if you get it cheaper .. I came to Pixel 2 Xl after using many phones .. It has only three pro for me 1) stock speedy software and 2) camera which is excellent( best would be overstatement ) 3) battery is good( 6-7 hour screen on time )
If talk about negatives then
1) Speaker is ok but call quality from ear piece and mic is average ..I struggle to hear other side in noisy environment especially when using WhatsApp
2) limited storage 64GB and others devices with same price often have 128GB and some even support SD card
3) Design is boring
4) Display is bright only when you drag slider to 70/80 percent and even some midrange phone have more bright display than pixel 2 xl
5) get warm when using phone after hotspot is active
Its good device but far from perfect
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Boring design ? What color did you have?
Thank you for your advices guys ! I'm sure the Galaxy S10 will be a much better phone in terms of hardware and design but I really got used to the google software especially the camera and google photos with the unlimited storage option. Maybe I should wait until the S10 announcement...
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Boring design ? What color did you have?
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I have balck and white panda version
I meant pixel 2 xl design is simple as compare to fancy design of samsung, Huawei, Oneplus etc
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Elixir_ said:
Thank you for your advices guys ! I'm sure the Galaxy S10 will be a much better phone in terms of hardware and design but I really got used to the google software especially the camera and google photos with the unlimited storage option. Maybe I should wait until the S10 announcement...
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Reason i come back to pixel is because of software and updates..this fludity of software is missing in samsung and even there new software one UI is laggy and i have used all samsumg devices from S7 to S9
If we put pixel software in samsung hardware then that would be excellent device
Sadly pixel always have many basic issues about call quality/display/mic/speaker crackling etc even pixel 3 and 3 xl has some issues..dont know why google dont pay attention to basic functionality when charge premium prices
I came back to the 2 XL from the 3 XL. This is a really good device.
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Yeah, the Pixel 2xl is worth it if you want to save some money. Perfect for those that don't mind not having all the extra features + latest specs and just want a good all-around phone with timely updates, smooth software and great camera. Really good phone if you can get one without any screen issues.
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I've had my Pixel 2 XL since it came out. I've been pretty happy with it.
I like the design, build quality and materials. I think it's much better than the Pixel 3 XL because of the metal back instead of glass and no stupid notch.
Many people have complained about the screen. The screen isn't perfect. It does have a slight blue tint at extreme angles and there is some black crush and black smear at the lowest brightness. However, since I don't use my phone at extreme angles or at the lowest brightness I don't noticed those "issues". When it comes to color I actually prefer the Pixel 2 XL to the Pixel 3 XL. The Pixel 2 XL with "Boosted" color mode looks very life-like but with the Pixel 3 XL it didn't matter what color mode I tried it was still oversaturated.
Camera is fantastic.
Speakers are ok but not great but I don't use the speakers much so I don't care much.
The battery life of my Pixel 2 XL was stellar for the first 3 months but then I had 3 consecutive months of drops in battery life because of updates. Add to that the phone is now 15 months old and now the battery life is just ok. When it was brand new I got as good as 9 hours of screen on time doing basic things like browsing, Facebook, texting, email, etc on wifi most of the time with ~20 brightness with no gaming, Bluetooth, camera, etc and I could go like 40 hours off the charger with that usage. Now, the same kind of usage gets me maybe 6 hours screen on time over a period of maybe 18 hours. Not terrible but not great. On days where I'll be using it heavily(about 20% of my days) with mostly mobile data, taking pictures, streaming over Bluetooth, higher screen brightness (for use in bright sun), YouTube/Netflix, GPS, etc I have to take a battery pack with me which sucks and wasn't necessary for the first 3-5 months.
I did have an issue with the 3.5mm adapter and stock charger not working but it was a software issue that seems to be resolved now.
My only complaint now is the Bluetooth metadata bug that's been a problem since updating to Pie. The February update should be out tomorrow so I'm hoping maybe it will include a fix for that bug.
Overall pretty happy. Still not worth the insane price but no phone is.
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I came back to the 2 XL from the 3 XL. This is a really good device.
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Same here just purchased a brand new 2 XL after having a 3 XL. Actually like the 2 much better. Ended up with Fi promotion and trade-in getting it for $300. Hard to beat, especially when you get a 2 year warranty and two more Android versions directly from Google. Basically means I will probably get a 3 or 4 XL in eighteen months or so for free.
I had a extended sting with the OnePlus and initially that phone had it all. Performance, battery life, awesome gestures. Slowly little things like
1) annoying reoptimization of apps
2) missing very important alerts (home alarm notifications) because of the optimization
3) Lack of response by OnePlus regarding global issues related to
4) TuneIn radio app consistently does not start upon launch due to some connection issue (probably caused by aggressive doze). Persisted even after a factory reset and appears to be a global issue.
5) Lack of response from OnePlus regarding this issue as well.
I went back to my pixel xl 2 and the inefficiency of screen bothered me a bit coming from the OnePlus but since I installed OnePlus gestures (working a lot better than my 1st go round with the app) and I've gotten over that issue
Also i'm enjoying having
1) Always on Display back
2) Phone screen calling to give telemarkerters a taste of their own medicine
3) Better Camera especially with the night sight
4) Faster security updates
5) Faster access to the phone via physical finger print scanner
What is it with all those stories of pixel bricking itself randomly.
This is scary, I've read dozen of those stories
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What is it with all those stories of pixel bricking itself randomly.
This is scary, I've read dozen of those stories
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Probably old news. Haven't read or heard such news
Do the 2XL still have the blue Tint issues or has this now been addressed by Google & fixed?
Just purchased one from Amazon for $345 128gb panda, Will be nice to have a backup pixel.
@home said:
Do the 2XL still have the blue Tint issues or has this now been addressed by Google & fixed?
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With the "boosted" mode, no problem for me
I had mine set to boosted but it still had the blue tint.
So have google fixed it?
I don't understand why people keep talking about the blue tint when the black crush is a much much more impactful problem.
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I don't understand why people keep talking about the blue tint when the black crush is a much much more impactful problem.
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What is the black crush?
I received the OnePlus 11 yesterday and here are my thoughts. For comparison, I've put it against a OnePlus 8 Pro (running clean OxygenOS 10), an S22 Ultra, and a Pixel 7 Pro.
What I Love:
+Build quality is exceptional, comparable to the Pixel 7 Pro but for $200 less. It's not quite S22 Ultra level but Samsung really sets the bar.
+The haptic feedback is hands down the best I've ever used. Vibration is strong, yet smooth and clean. The Pixel 7 Pro is very good too. The S22 Ultra is a bit weak.
+The screen is vibrant and crisp. It definitely beats the Pixel 7 Pro with saturation.
+80w charging is very convenient, especially compared to the Pixel 7 Pro which is under 30w.
+Speaker quality is quite good. Much more volume, bass, and fuller sound than its predecessors.
+Battery life already seems better than the Pixel 7 Pro and S22 Ultra but will have to give it time to calibrate.
+Surprisingly compact and lightweight compared to the S22 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro; Other companies make you give up battery size and RAM to have more compact devices.
+The Aramid Fiber Case looks amazing, though it doesn't give much protection, especially around the camera bump.
What is Underwhelming:
-OxygenOS 13 is a disjointed mess. After using debloated and Pixel themed OneUI, as well as OxygenOS 10, this really feels like a cheap knockoff version of Android. Many apps and widgets use a different font, some apps follow Google's Material You design while others use OnePlus's color system. Many typical Android functions are buried deep in submenus. If I had updated the OnePlus 8 Pro from OOS10 to OOS13, it would have ruined the phone.
-Overall smoothness isn't that noticeably better than the OnePlus 8 Pro. Sure the Google apps and menus fly, but the OxygenOS 13 framework can be less than smooth at times. Maybe the OnePlus 8 Pro on OOS 10 was just that good, that even modern phones can't outclass it.
-No wireless charging. Yes, this was to keep the cost down, but I'd much rather they'd have included it, and maybe sold the charging brick separately instead. Charging ports do go bad, and it's nice to have a backup method.
-Not sure if it's a glitch or what, but setting a minimum DPI resets itself to default after a reboot.
What I recommend:
-Download a clean launcher such as Nova or Lawnchair. You can apply any icon pack to give a cleaner, more consistent look.
-Make sure the wallpaper you choose has colors you like or you may end up with really ugly themed Google Apps.
-Opt out of any optional "User Experience" software.
The main takeaways I got from this test is that nothing significant has changed in the past 4 years with Android and the compelling reasons to upgrade are less each year. All recent flagships are fast, all of them have great cameras, all of them get decent battery life, all are well built, and all will essentially do the same thing. Yes, 5G speeds are a big plus, but the average user won't notice differences in incremental processor updates, improvements to storage speed, or even to the camera. The biggest upgrade OnePlus could do is rebase OxygenOS on stock, like Motorola did with their UI. For the price, the OP11 gives you an amazing device that could get better with official or unofficial development.
Should you upgrade?:
If you're using a OnePlus 8 Pro or newer and all is well, I'd say no. Especially for those with a OnePlus 8 or 9 Pro that can flash custom ROMS, it makes sense to stay put.
If you want the latest and greatest, are on a budget, and don't mind a mediocre software experience, no wireless charging, and USB 2.0 only, the OP11 may be for you.
If smooth consistent software, and/or development is your top priority, go with the Pixel 7 Pro.
If you want an all around powerhouse with almost no compromises, go with the S22 Ultra or S23 Ultra. If you're willing to put in the effort, the vast customization options in OneUI allow you to create almost any UI style you'd like. A fully debloated Samsung running a full Pixel theme is actually the most enjoyable experience I've had with Android.
Yes. Wireless charging is not a caprice! It saves usb port !
Just like double tap to screen on or off saves power button . For me thats why OnePlus from 2015.
Guyinlaca said:
I received the OnePlus 11 yesterday and here are my thoughts. For comparison, I've put it against a OnePlus 8 Pro (running clean OxygenOS 10), an S22 Ultra, and a Pixel 7 Pro.
What I Love:
+Build quality is exceptional, comparable to the Pixel 7 Pro but for $200 less. It's not quite S22 Ultra level but Samsung really sets the bar.
+The haptic feedback is hands down the best I've ever used. Vibration is strong, yet smooth and clean. The Pixel 7 Pro is very good too. The S22 Ultra is a bit weak.
+The screen is vibrant and crisp. It definitely beats the Pixel 7 Pro with saturation.
+80w charging is very convenient, especially compared to the Pixel 7 Pro which is under 30w.
+Speaker quality is quite good. Much more volume, bass, and fuller sound than its predecessors.
+Battery life already seems better than the Pixel 7 Pro and S22 Ultra but will have to give it time to calibrate.
+Surprisingly compact and lightweight compared to the S22 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro; Other companies make you give up battery size and RAM to have more compact devices.
+The Aramid Fiber Case looks amazing, though it doesn't give much protection, especially around the camera bump.
What is Underwhelming:
-OxygenOS 13 is a disjointed mess. After using debloated and Pixel themed OneUI, as well as OxygenOS 10, this really feels like a cheap knockoff version of Android. Many apps and widgets use a different font, some apps follow Google's Material You design while others use OnePlus's color system. Many typical Android functions are buried deep in submenus. If I had updated the OnePlus 8 Pro from OOS10 to OOS13, it would have ruined the phone.
-Overall smoothness isn't that noticeably better than the OnePlus 8 Pro. Sure the Google apps and menus fly, but the OxygenOS 13 framework can be less than smooth at times. Maybe the OnePlus 8 Pro on OOS 10 was just that good, that even modern phones can't outclass it.
-No wireless charging. Yes, this was to keep the cost down, but I'd much rather they'd have included it, and maybe sold the charging brick separately instead. Charging ports do go bad, and it's nice to have a backup method.
-Not sure if it's a glitch or what, but setting a minimum DPI resets itself to default after a reboot.
What I recommend:
-Download a clean launcher such as Nova or Lawnchair. You can apply any icon pack to give a cleaner, more consistent look.
-Make sure the wallpaper you choose has colors you like or you may end up with really ugly themed Google Apps.
-Opt out of any optional "User Experience" software.
The main takeaways I got from this test is that nothing significant has changed in the past 4 years with Android and the compelling reasons to upgrade are less each year. All recent flagships are fast, all of them have great cameras, all of them get decent battery life, all are well built, and all will essentially do the same thing. Yes, 5G speeds are a big plus, but the average user won't notice differences in incremental processor updates, improvements to storage speed, or even to the camera. The biggest upgrade OnePlus could do is rebase OxygenOS on stock, like Motorola did with their UI. For the price, the OP11 gives you an amazing device that could get better with official or unofficial development.
Should you upgrade?:
If you're using a OnePlus 8 Pro or newer and all is well, I'd say no. Especially for those with a OnePlus 8 or 9 Pro that can flash custom ROMS, it makes sense to stay put.
If you want the latest and greatest, are on a budget, and don't mind a mediocre software experience, no wireless charging, and USB 2.0 only, the OP11 may be for you.
If smooth consistent software, and/or development is your top priority, go with the Pixel 7 Pro.
If you want an all around powerhouse with almost no compromises, go with the S22 Ultra or S23 Ultra. If you're willing to put in the effort, the vast customization options in OneUI allow you to create almost any UI style you'd like. A fully debloated Samsung running a full Pixel theme is actually the most enjoyable experience I've had with Android.
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Don't look at the edges od the screen... You will be frustrated
As for me moving from OP6 to OP11 is a big and good step. Last android which i have it was Android 10 (without upgrade to 11) and all things which You describe as "bad" are good enough for me. I am little afraid that factory screen protection got a strange little scratches - i just put my phone on the board and almost do nothing...
Some updates after a few days. This phone is seriously buggy. I've been using Nova Launcher for a few days and there is an odd glitch where when I return to the homescreen, it's unresponsive for a second. If I try to open an app or swipe immediately after returning to the homescreen, nothing happens and I have to repeat the action. At first I thought it was an issue with the screen protector, but using the stock OnePlus launcher doesn't have this issue. As a test, I installed Lawnchair Launcher, and that repeatedly force closes. I've tried adjusting permissions and it made no difference.
The stock launcher is usable, with some odd bugs of it's own, but the fact that it doesn't play nice with third party launchers is disappointing.
Guyinlaca said:
Some updates after a few days. This phone is seriously buggy. I've been using Nova Launcher for a few days and there is an odd glitch where when I return to the homescreen, it's unresponsive for a second. If I try to open an app or swipe immediately after returning to the homescreen, nothing happens and I have to repeat the action. At first I thought it was an issue with the screen protector, but using the stock OnePlus launcher doesn't have this issue. As a test, I installed Lawnchair Launcher, and that repeatedly force closes. I've tried adjusting permissions and it made no difference.
The stock launcher is usable, with some odd bugs of it's own, but the fact that it doesn't play nice with third party launchers is disappointing.
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You can probably fix this by turning on background activity and enabling auto start on nova launcher. I am using Lawnchair which is working fine, 98 percent of the time. Lawnfeed gives occasional glitches but all good so far.
I do not confirm, for me NovaLauncher works as soon as the fingers can click on the icons on the desktop.
No issues with Nova Launcher for me. How has battery life been for everyone?
Battery life is awesome. Way better than the OnePlus 8 Pro which already had great battery life.
Update on the launcher. I uninstalled Nova, reinstalled it cleared all data, turned on auto start and allowed background activity. It was working perfectly until I did some web browsing for awhile and went back to the homescreen. It required a double press of the app icon to get it to load. Granted it only occurs 1/10 times now instead of every other time but it's still odd. Two considerations, I use the Gesture based navigation, and I confirmed the problem is NOT present when using the 3 button soft key navigation.
Because you mentioned OnePlus 8Pro, how do you compare these two devices in cameras?
Or someone else having this experience?
I have been a oneplus user for 8 years oneplus 5t - oneplus 7 pro
Have just upgraded to a Google Pixel 7 this week but not happy with it
I should have just got a oneplus 11 but 2 things are holding me off at the minute
No supcase (yet) for the phone I have to have this I work as an electrician
No custom roms Lineage etc
Tbh I might switch back to my OP7PRO running CrDroid it has been a great phone for the last 5 years the pixel is no match
The only reason I upgraded is for 5g and tbh that is no great shakes either
I can currently get the 11 off oneplus direct for £477 if I trade in my OP7
Watching this thread closely gathering feedback etc
I just got my 11 today. I went with the 8/128, and got in on the additional $200 trade in deal.
So far I really, really like the phone.
I came from a pixel 6a which honestly... I did not like much. So far this phone has fixed the things I hated from the 6a.
If the battery life is good without having to turn 5g off, I'll be very happy.
My only other OnePlus phone was a 5. Which they let me trade in for $210... It wasn't doing anything but sitting in my drawer anyways as it can't be used on most of the networks here anymore.
ummduh said:
I just got my 11 today. I went with the 8/128, and got in on the additional $200 trade in deal.
So far I really, really like the phone.
I came from a pixel 6a which honestly... I did not like much. So far this phone has fixed the things I hated from the 6a.
If the battery life is good without having to turn 5g off, I'll be very happy.
My only other OnePlus phone was a 5. Which they let me trade in for $210... It wasn't doing anything but sitting in my drawer anyways as it can't be used on most of the networks here anymore anyways.
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What about cameras related to Pixel 6a?
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What about cameras related to Pixel 6a?
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So far it's not even a fair comparison.
My largest issue with the 6a is that it couldn't live scroll video. It was horribly stuttery and generally unusable. I use video at work very often for troubleshooting and the 6a was very poor for that.
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Because you mentioned OnePlus 8Pro, how do you compare these two devices in cameras?
Or someone else having this experience?
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Cameras in these two models are different generations, of course with an indication of OP11.
When, three years ago, OP8PRO took pictures quickly and great after removing from the box, so after each Android update (at 11, out of 12, at 13) a photo with HDR take it for a long time:/
Restoring to OP8PRO factory settings did not improve the situation.
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I've put it against a OnePlus 8 Pro
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Comparing these two models, I am amazed and nervous about the fact from WiFi in OP11.
Both smartphones lie side by side on my desk. OP8Pro on WiFi flies like crazy, OP11 chokes, has a problem with internet access:/
It does not improve the situation (and even worsens!) turning on acceleration using dual-WiFi networks.
I hope that this is a matter of optimizing system software and after plastering applications, OnePlus will fix it.
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Comparing these two models, I am amazed and nervous about the fact from WiFi in OP11.
Both smartphones lie side by side on my desk. OP8Pro on WiFi flies like crazy, OP11 chokes, has a problem with internet access:/
It does not improve the situation (and even worsens!) turning on acceleration using dual-WiFi networks.
I hope that this is a matter of optimizing system software and after plastering applications, OnePlus will fix it.
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I am really so surprised by the fact of weak WiFi in newest OnePlus 11.
Wifi has been great for me. Granted I'm using a Wifi 6 router which tends to perform better with newer devices. I haven't tried a Wifi 5 router.
I also use a WiFI 6 router and ran comparisons with the OP8 next to the OP11 and the OP11 slightly outperformed the OP8 in speed tests.
I have absolutely no issues with wifi.
One thing I am running into now is low Bluetooth volume.
I was finally able to leave 5g turned on all day at work. With the 6a it'd have killed the battery dead in 4 hours.
Another oddity is apparently I can't use the always on display when logged in to a secondary user/profile? The settings for it aren't even available.
I use a home and work profile.
In my case, the router is on the ground floor of the house and I work on the first floor. And in such a system in the 5GHz band, the OP11 model does not cope, and in the same place the OP8PRO model flies like crazy.
Theoretically, the network manager in OP11 signals signal strength as' "excellent". If I go down to the ground floor, the transfers are very fine.
The situation is improved by the change from the 5GHz band to 2.4GHz. Then on the OP11 floor it works decently.
Nevertheless, in the same conditions and place OP8PRO works much better than OP11. Without a doubt.