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Would you recommend buying Mi 5S?

I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).

flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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I guess if you already have a Mi 5s Plus, there's no point in getting this since it's very similar, despite one or 2 things

flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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Why not try this Camera mod?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/piximod-camera-mod-devices-kk-lp-mm-n-t3401517

I'm not 100% satisfied with the camera quality, compared to my old Sony Xperia Z1c. I do hope that this will be a little improved with the next global image release. I tend to get not fully sharp images while making pictures of text, as if in the last moment the camera decides to make them a little soft.

patoberli said:
I'm not 100% satisfied with the camera quality, compared to my old Sony Xperia Z1c. I do hope that this will be a little improved with the next global image release. I tend to get not fully sharp images while making pictures of text, as if in the last moment the camera decides to make them a little soft.
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Or you decide to not hold the camera still. It is called camera shake. Try it in full sunlight to force the camera to use a fast shutter speed and then check the sharpness. I bet it is sharp as hell.
My camera makes very good pictures. it is miles ahead of my old Nexus 6p camera.

Trust me, I hold it very still

flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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if xiaomi share the kernel sources of this phone,i recomend you buy this! but no diffrent between mi5s plus and mi5s.both of them has the same hardware.

I was incredibly annoyed with the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor that had 20% hit rate and awkward body shape on mi5s which has buttons almost on the back of the phone, and the camera on mi5s plus. Also the lack of Nougat and Google assistant on both.
Now I have zte axon 7.
Sent from my ZTE A2017G using Tapatalk

zdravke said:
I was incredibly annoyed with the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor that had 20% hit rate and awkward body shape on mi5s which has buttons almost on the back of the phone, and the camera on mi5s plus. Also the lack of Nougat and Google assistant on both.
Now I have zte axon 7.
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The fingerprint hit rate was bad on my Note 5 but not 20%. I just learned to place my finger on the same area/angle and my hit rate went up.
However, if it was raining and some moisture was on the sensor, it would not work well again.
I just think fingerprint technology is still ways away. You don't want to have any false positives so they lean on not able to unlock.

Actually there is a clear quality difference between the "traditional" scanner on my Redmi 4 Pro and the ultra sonic one on my Mi 5s. The hit rate on my Redmi 4 is nearly 100% (although I don't use the phone every day and can't exactly give numbers), but it is more reliable then on my 5s. I don't know though if it's easier to fake the finger on the Redmi than on the 5s.

flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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I really like the mi5s, but take into account that mine is rooted, I disabled MIUI (memory) optimization, set most of my frequently used apps to be locked so they load near instantly when multitasking etc.
The camera by the way is absolutely excellent - I'm a hobbyist photographer for many years (using 'traditional' real cameras) and this is the first smartphone I've had that is good enough for me to not take my other 'real' camera with me as the photos from the mi5s are really that good. It has a very good optimization of focus accuracy and speed, a pretty good trade off between denoising and sharpening, the white balance is very accurate and the resulting images are sharp consistently across the image, from center to corners.
I'm currently using the EU ROM (7.3.30) and am very happy with the phone.
But, having flashed the lineageOS14.1 unofficial ROM (from April 2017, I d/l it yesterday), I can say that while the mi5s is very fast and all, it can certainly feel snappier in performance when using a more traditional ROM (I tried both lineageOS 14.1 and resurrection remix, both unofficial).
I am sticking with the MIUI rom because the stock camera app is much more reliable for consistently well balanced (white balance, sharpening, and denoising) images with fast focusing, much more than any 3rd party app I tried (manual camera, open camera, google camera (which is supposedly similar to the app used on the Google Pixel), a better camera...).
Hope this helps.

This is the best phone i have so far next to LG G3
Battery really good and much better compared to snapdragon 625 devices
And performances much better than snapdragon 820
Would recommended!
Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk

I've owned this phone for 2 weeks now. I purchased it for £211 so it is very cheap compared to most other flagships on the market. With the price in mind, it's definitely a great bang for your buck phone.
However, be mindful that the camera is bad (good hardware but terrible software) which result in out of focus photos and the fingerprint scanner is fairly slow. I'm sure a few people will chime in to say that the camera is the best they've ever used but you will ready of many, many more instances of people with a negative experience. The front facing camera is absolutely terrible and every single photo I've taken has been out of focus. Before people criticise my photography ability, I am a hobbyist photographer with a 50D and several L series lenses so I know how to take a decent photo.
So anyway, some sacrifices were made given the price tag so if you're ok with those shortcomings then you should definitely buy it.

How is Mi Mix 2 in comparison to G6 ?

Hello Everybody
I am planning to jumpship to Xioami Mi Mix 2 from LG G6.
I am mainly switching to Mi Mix 2 for the screen and can be in bleeding edge in terms of MiUI updates.
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
This question should be answered only from LG G6 perspective and not in general.

raddy said:
Hello Everybody
I am planning to jumpship to Xioami Mi Mix 2 from LG G6.
I am mainly switching to Mi Mix 2 for the screen and can be in bleeding edge in terms of MiUI updates.
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
This question should be answered only from LG G6 perspective and not in general.
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I actually did it about 2 weeks ago, I had the Korean version of the G6 with the Quad-DAC, so here goes my experience:
Why I like the LG G6:
- A lot easier to handle, I have regular size hands and the Mi Mix 2 is a bit wide, without a curved back, it doesn't feel that comfortable IMO.
- It has a headphone jack and with the Quad-DAC built in, wow it's miles better then the Mi Mix 2
- Wide angle, I miss that feature, it's just awesome taking wide angle pics
- Main Camera is just a bit better than the Mi Mix 2 in low light
Why I DON'T like the LG G6:
- Horrible selfie Cam, I'm not a big fan of selfies, but when I did take them with my kids, they were awful.
- Very slow updates
- The Korean Version has a locked bootloader without a way to unlock it.
- Lags sometimes just navigating the UI
Why I like the Mi Mix:
- Amazing design and build quality
- Very fast in day to day task (UFS 2.1)
- Good main camera (Good not great )
- Some dev support for custom ROMs
- Quick updates, especially if you use MIUI Beta/Dev ROMs
- Very Fast charging (almost at the same level of the OP5)
Why I DON'T like the Mi Mix:
- No headphone jack, it annoys me a lot when I have to charge the phone and I can't use my earphones when it's charging.
- MIUI still does not handle notification as well as Stock Android (One example: on the lock screen, the user cannot interact with them, like you can on most other Android skins or stock)
- Mine came with Chinese version of the MIUI, so it was a bit of a pain to get the bootloader unlocked, had to install a VPN to pretend I was in China, then request the permission, then wait 72h and finally plug in to a Windows PC, not Linux or MAC, Windows only and run Xiaomi unlock tool).
- I'm on the MOKEE Rom, but there are still bugs on AOSP based ROMs =(
- GCam port still not very stable
So, these are my Pros and Cons for these two devices, now you have to see if it's worth it for you, in my opinion, I'm happy with the Mi MIX 2, the design and unlocked bootloader with some Dev support, these are big pluses for me, so I'm ok for now with the Mi MIX 2, but I do miss that Quad-DAC and wide angle camera
Hope this helped, have a good one =)

Thanks for your detailed comparison.
It could not have done better as I can relate with you closely.
I have also locked boot loader and I have also normal sized hands.
I can understand most of the points but only one point surprised me from your comparison.
You have mentioned that G6 front camera as very poor but I am reading Mix 2 camera as such elsewhere.
Can you tell me how is Mix 2s front camera ?
Last but not least are you having a feeling in Mi Mix 2 as using a finished product?
Lack of updates is the only cons in LGG6 in my opinion.
But I think I cannot have a sense of feeling in using completed product.
Screen resolution also is considerably less in Mix2 and weight is also little more.

raddy said:
Thanks for your detailed comparison.
It could not have done better as I can relate with you closely.
I have also locked boot loader and I have also normal sized hands.
I can understand most of the points but only one point surprised me from your comparison.
You have mentioned that G6 front camera as very poor but I am reading Mix 2 camera as such elsewhere.
Can you tell me how is Mix 2s front camera ?
Last but not least are you having a feeling in Mi Mix 2 as using a finished product?
Lack of updates is the only cons in LGG6 in my opinion.
But I think I cannot have a sense of feeling in using completed product.
Screen resolution also is considerably less in Mix2 and weight is also little more.
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The Mi MIX 2 front camera is a bit better, not by much, but it's better.
The MIX 2 does feel like a complete product, IF you use the Official MIUI Global Rom, it's just the way MIUI handles notifications that puts me off using it, the Oreo beta of MIUI improved a bit, but from the lock screen, you can't still interact with the notifications and AOSP ROMs are fine for a daily use, some minor issues and camera quality declines a bit, still waiting on a stable GCam port.
The the screen is very good, in my opinion 1080p and 1440p in day to day use are the same, you can't see the difference, apart from the resolution difference between these two devices, there is not much difference, colour reproduction is pretty much the same and it can get very bright, great quality screen on the Mi MIX 2.
It is a bit heavy, on my journey home, on a 30min train ride, I have to swap hand half way, because it starts to feel a bit uncomfortable on the wrist.

hugoprh said:
The Mi MIX 2 front camera is a bit better, not by much, but it's better.
The MIX 2 does feel like a complete product, IF you use the Official MIUI Global Rom, it's just the way MIUI handles notifications that puts me off using it, the Oreo beta of MIUI improved a bit, but from the lock screen, you can't still interact with the notifications and AOSP ROMs are fine for a daily use, some minor issues and camera quality declines a bit, still waiting on a stable GCam port.
The the screen is very good, in my opinion 1080p and 1440p in day to day use are the same, you can't see the difference, apart from the resolution difference between these two devices, there is not much difference, colour reproduction is pretty much the same and it can get very bright, great quality screen on the Mi MIX 2.
It is a bit heavy, on my journey home, on a 30min train ride, I have to swap hand half way, because it starts to feel a bit uncomfortable on the wrist.
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How is the battery life ?
I heard that battery life is not as good as G6.
And i heard that front camera cannot be used easily in 3rd party camera and video chatting applications.
Have you tried using front camera in 3rd party applications ?

raddy said:
How is the battery life ?
I heard that battery life is not as good as G6.
And i heard that front camera cannot be used easily in 3rd party camera and video chatting applications.
Have you tried using front camera in 3rd party applications ?
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Battery seems to be the same for me, getting pretty much the same use as I was with the G6, so don't feel like an upgrade or downgrade here.
The only third party app I use is Skype and that app support 360 rotation, so no issues here, but from what I've heard, snapchat does not support it.

hugoprh said:
I actually did it about 2 weeks ago, I had the Korean version of the G6 with the Quad-DAC, so here goes my experience:
Why I like the LG G6:
- A lot easier to handle, I have regular size hands and the Mi Mix 2 is a bit wide, without a curved back, it doesn't feel that comfortable IMO.
- It has a headphone jack and with the Quad-DAC built in, wow it's miles better then the Mi Mix 2
- Wide angle, I miss that feature, it's just awesome taking wide angle pics
- Main Camera is just a bit better than the Mi Mix 2 in low light
Why I DON'T like the LG G6:
- Horrible selfie Cam, I'm not a big fan of selfies, but when I did take them with my kids, they were awful.
- Very slow updates
- The Korean Version has a locked bootloader without a way to unlock it.
- Lags sometimes just navigating the UI
Why I like the Mi Mix:
- Amazing design and build quality
- Very fast in day to day task (UFS 2.1)
- Good main camera (Good not great )
- Some dev support for custom ROMs
- Quick updates, especially if you use MIUI Beta/Dev ROMs
- Very Fast charging (almost at the same level of the OP5)
Why I DON'T like the Mi Mix:
- No headphone jack, it annoys me a lot when I have to charge the phone and I can't use my earphones when it's charging.
- MIUI still does not handle notification as well as Stock Android (One example: on the lock screen, the user cannot interact with them, like you can on most other Android skins or stock)
- Mine came with Chinese version of the MIUI, so it was a bit of a pain to get the bootloader unlocked, had to install a VPN to pretend I was in China, then request the permission, then wait 72h and finally plug in to a Windows PC, not Linux or MAC, Windows only and run Xiaomi unlock tool).
- I'm on the MOKEE Rom, but there are still bugs on AOSP based ROMs =(
- GCam port still not very stable
So, these are my Pros and Cons for these two devices, now you have to see if it's worth it for you, in my opinion, I'm happy with the Mi MIX 2, the design and unlocked bootloader with some Dev support, these are big pluses for me, so I'm ok for now with the Mi MIX 2, but I do miss that Quad-DAC and wide angle camera
Hope this helped, have a good one =)
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Gcam is fully stable.

overcustom said:
Gcam is fully stable.
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Please tell me how, I've tried a few different versions of GCAM and I can't get tap to focus to work. I'm now on Andy's Lineage OS.

hugoprh said:
Please tell me how, I've tried a few different versions of GCAM and I can't get tap to focus to work. I'm now on Andy's Lineage OS.
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It seems gcam is not fully working on AOSP based ROMs.
I'm on Xiaomi.eu 8.2.1, and it is fully stable, with portrait mode working both in rear and front camera.

overcustom said:
It seems gcam is not fully working on AOSP based ROMs.
I'm on Xiaomi.eu 8.2.1, and it is fully stable, with portrait mode working both in rear and front camera.
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Cool, thanks I'll try it out, shame it's only in MIUI =/

overcustom said:
It seems gcam is not fully working on AOSP based ROMs.
I'm on Xiaomi.eu 8.2.1, and it is fully stable, with portrait mode working both in rear and front camera.
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Just tried this and still tap to focus does not work, tried a couple of GCAM and both are not working fully. What version of the GCAM are you using?

hugoprh said:
Just tried this and still tap to focus does not work, tried a couple of GCAM and both are not working fully. What version of the GCAM are you using?
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GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V5.apk

also consider that mi mix 2 has no rds radio fm and ir remote control hardware. That's big disadvantages for me

Camera app

Do you use the M20X camera app only or do you use another one or even them both??
Whats the best one for you and why?

BigDisplay said:
Do you use the M20X camera app only or do you use another one or even them both??
Whats the best one for you and why?
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Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone

If we only can have g gcam v6 with night sight and googles great HDR+

yetiweston said:
Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
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I came from samsung s8 and notice video app is inferior in quality, smoothness and also no option for external mic.let me know what app is best for filming.. I manage to get the this on smooth q gimbal with counterweight

ninjamonkye said:
I came from samsung s8 and notice video app is inferior in quality, smoothness and also no option for external mic.let me know what app is best for filming.. I manage to get the this on smooth q gimbal with counterweight
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I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.

yetiweston said:
Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
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i cannot find any setting to use external mic...could you share how?

ninjamonkye said:
i cannot find any setting to use external mic...could you share how?
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I just plug the mic into the headphone port and it works automatically, there is no need to change any settings.

BigDisplay said:
I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
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I hear ya. My favorite phone was the first Note Edge (with the one edge). Nice width and the edge had some useful apps associated with it. If it wasn't for the poor battery life I might still be using it!

Can someone please post the stock camera apk from M20X AL00 (china) version? The video record stopped working on mine and want to see if reinstalling it will fix it.

yetiweston said:
I just plug the mic into the headphone port and it works automatically, there is no need to change any settings.
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i think the recording will still be using the mic from the phone....in samsung camera app, there is setting to control the source....
try recording with you microphone...pulling it near and away from your voice....i think it will remain same volume....which means recording takes place at the phone..

BigDisplay said:
I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
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I couldnt ignore this post because I am the same way..I had a Sony Z Ultra, a Mediapad X2 and a Sony Z3 Tablet Compact (which I still have) as my phones but I wanted something more modern and oh boy, since all this trend of bagette shaped phones, it has been a struggle for me to find anything half decent. Finally settled on the Mate 20x which as awesome as it is, still feels so freaking tiny. Having a hard time adapting to the smaller phone but on the other side..damn this phone has great features!

I've just had my new Mate 20 X for a week and overall love the phone.
But the biggest gripe I have with this phone is the retard camera app. Why is it that when the app is set for 40MP resolution on the main camera, it will disable access to the wide-angle and telephoto lenses? This makes no sense what so ever mainly because the default 10MP setting absolutely sucks.. absurd over processing, contrast and sharpening. The best quality and most natural looking images I get is by using the 40MP setting with the main camera (under good lighting conditions). But then if I want to use the wide-angle or tele lens for a particular shot, I have to go back into Settings, fall back to the default 10MP option just so there is access to the other lenses. This is really really so bad. Why isn't there a setting of simply bring able to usr all the of 3 sensors' full native resolution instead of having to fall back to 10MP picture size just to be able to switch cameras? Is there a workaround this or another camera app than can work in a more logical way than the Huawei's camera app?
This aside, I love the phone.. great batter life, super fast, incredible overall build quality, really awesome hardware.. maybe the last great phone from Huawei for the foreseeable future as things look pretty grim for them. But the camera app, wow.. what a nightmare.
Anyway, maybe I'm doing something wrong and I haven't figured it out yet.. tanks in advance for any advice.

A70 vs Oneplus 6T

I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?

manus31 said:
I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?
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Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?

CyberOvca said:
Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?
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Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8

manus31 said:
Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8
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Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.

vistaabalaji said:
Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.
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Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.

manus31 said:
Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.
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You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!

Glotttis said:
You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!
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Yes I believe this is true,the 675 is a great chip.I used a device with 660 and there was no problems whatsoever, Processors these days are typically great above the 660,
Still on the fence about the a70 though,have been looking at the reviews,many point out issues with the cameras,front and back
Would need these to be great if I'm gonna swap my 6T which has been performing a lot better with Gcam

After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time

manus31 said:
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time
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You're making the right decision I've had a 6T and A70 and the 6T has a much better camera specially in low light which is the real weak point of the A70. Megapixels are just numbers and doesn't say anything about camera quality. The camera and fingerprint sensor are the two weakest points of this phone. I didn't like the fingerprint reader even in the 6T as I found it annoying but this one is even worse and I rely on face unlock and only use fingerprints for authorization in banking apps etc. However screen is better and battery life is much better.

manus31 said:
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
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Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Yea,seems to be a bit of a disappointment overall for this phone,glad I didn't go for it,shame because on paper it seems ideal

I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.

OC-Freak said:
I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.
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Hi,
Nice statement, but comparing a A70 and a mi9 SE is kind of pointless.
I don't think you can compare a 5.9" display phone with a 6.7" display phone.
Even if the rest is nearly identical.
Don't get me wrong.
I am a great Xiaomi fan.
If Xiaomi would have released a smartphone ABOVE 6.5" AND with a decent SoC, I would have gone for that immediatly.
But the only "phablet" in the Xiaomi range of products is the mi Max 3 (that I currently have) and that one does have a SD 636 and it has really horrible latency when you touch the display.
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Are you sure you have enabled fast charging in settings? Battery / Settings / Fast Charging With Cable.
Just a thought, mine charges from 10% to 100 % in about an hour and a half.

Do remember that 25w charging is only enabled when the screen is off or the AOD is activated. Whenever the screen is on, even on the lockscreen, it'll be limited to 6w.

S20U have big software problem?

Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best

Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.

FinalBossJay said:
Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
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Come on now. You know that's not exactly true. This phone has pretty serious camera issues, from poor optics to focus problems, etc. It's not a terrible camera, but it is not worth the price tag. Samsung has to do a lot more work on the software side to make it better. I've had the phone since launch and while updates did improve things, it still falls short compared to other flagships. Both iPhone 11 Pro and Pixel 4 take better photos (I have those phones too), as does Note 10+ in most cases (I have it too for comparison). With that said, it is possible to take good photos with the S20 Ultra, so it's not all bad.

If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.

I'm one of the few people who buys phone not for the camera but making receiving calls, YouTube media consumption social networking camera is bottom of the list.
I think the camera and video is brilliant and better then most flagship. Its good for an average consumer use for expert photographers not to sure as don't know enough. The good thing is most of us aren't experts.
I prefer the s20 plus as its slimmer and has less protruding camera. Its better buy then huawei as g services are missing and better software and screen. Better then oppo due to mainly software and less curved screen. Oppo could have been my choice were it not for the curved screen. I hate that, most overrated and wasted tech.
Thats my rant and impression of Samsung s20.

Paul_Deemer said:
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville!
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That would make more sense than paying 17% more for a 6% larger screen. The battery is also 11% larger, but the plus is also lighter and thinner, especially at the camera bump. The cameras are the most significant difference between the two, it would only make sense for that to be the main motivating factor in paying the premium (especially considering the plus is tending to get marked down more).

Paul_Deemer said:
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
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The camera is literally the one reason to go for the Ultra vs. the Plus. Screen and battery size difference are insignificant in this decision, so no, Samsung does need to step up and make the Ultra worthy of its name. With that said, I am not expecting DSLR quality. I have a 5D Mark IV and some very high end lenses and know the difference. However, matching or beating the Pixel 4 series or the iPhone 11 Pro shouldn't be a problem for the camera setup on the Ultra, except Samsung botched the implementation badly.

isko01 said:
Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
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Agree with you.
Pay 1400$ for S20U
- BATTERY not good than 11 pro max or oppo find x2 or p40 pro
- Exynos 990 so bad ( ex 990 < kirin 990 < sd 865)
- Camera can not take the moment well as iphone or other phone. Can't focus well, but photo and video day light is ok.
- screen ok but oppo find x2 pro's screen are better
Sorry for my bad english.
:silly:

About Camera:
Have S20 Ultra hardware that can improve with software? Or should I go for Mi 10?
Thank you