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Do you use the M20X camera app only or do you use another one or even them both??
Whats the best one for you and why?
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Do you use the M20X camera app only or do you use another one or even them both??
Whats the best one for you and why?
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Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
If we only can have g gcam v6 with night sight and googles great HDR+
yetiweston said:
Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
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I came from samsung s8 and notice video app is inferior in quality, smoothness and also no option for external mic.let me know what app is best for filming.. I manage to get the this on smooth q gimbal with counterweight
ninjamonkye said:
I came from samsung s8 and notice video app is inferior in quality, smoothness and also no option for external mic.let me know what app is best for filming.. I manage to get the this on smooth q gimbal with counterweight
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I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
yetiweston said:
Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
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i cannot find any setting to use external mic...could you share how?
ninjamonkye said:
i cannot find any setting to use external mic...could you share how?
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I just plug the mic into the headphone port and it works automatically, there is no need to change any settings.
BigDisplay said:
I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
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I hear ya. My favorite phone was the first Note Edge (with the one edge). Nice width and the edge had some useful apps associated with it. If it wasn't for the poor battery life I might still be using it!
Can someone please post the stock camera apk from M20X AL00 (china) version? The video record stopped working on mine and want to see if reinstalling it will fix it.
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I just plug the mic into the headphone port and it works automatically, there is no need to change any settings.
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i think the recording will still be using the mic from the phone....in samsung camera app, there is setting to control the source....
try recording with you microphone...pulling it near and away from your voice....i think it will remain same volume....which means recording takes place at the phone..
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I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
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I couldnt ignore this post because I am the same way..I had a Sony Z Ultra, a Mediapad X2 and a Sony Z3 Tablet Compact (which I still have) as my phones but I wanted something more modern and oh boy, since all this trend of bagette shaped phones, it has been a struggle for me to find anything half decent. Finally settled on the Mate 20x which as awesome as it is, still feels so freaking tiny. Having a hard time adapting to the smaller phone but on the other side..damn this phone has great features!
I've just had my new Mate 20 X for a week and overall love the phone.
But the biggest gripe I have with this phone is the retard camera app. Why is it that when the app is set for 40MP resolution on the main camera, it will disable access to the wide-angle and telephoto lenses? This makes no sense what so ever mainly because the default 10MP setting absolutely sucks.. absurd over processing, contrast and sharpening. The best quality and most natural looking images I get is by using the 40MP setting with the main camera (under good lighting conditions). But then if I want to use the wide-angle or tele lens for a particular shot, I have to go back into Settings, fall back to the default 10MP option just so there is access to the other lenses. This is really really so bad. Why isn't there a setting of simply bring able to usr all the of 3 sensors' full native resolution instead of having to fall back to 10MP picture size just to be able to switch cameras? Is there a workaround this or another camera app than can work in a more logical way than the Huawei's camera app?
This aside, I love the phone.. great batter life, super fast, incredible overall build quality, really awesome hardware.. maybe the last great phone from Huawei for the foreseeable future as things look pretty grim for them. But the camera app, wow.. what a nightmare.
Anyway, maybe I'm doing something wrong and I haven't figured it out yet.. tanks in advance for any advice.
I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?
manus31 said:
I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?
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Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?
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Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?
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Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8
manus31 said:
Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8
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Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.
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Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.
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Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.
manus31 said:
Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.
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You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!
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You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!
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Yes I believe this is true,the 675 is a great chip.I used a device with 660 and there was no problems whatsoever, Processors these days are typically great above the 660,
Still on the fence about the a70 though,have been looking at the reviews,many point out issues with the cameras,front and back
Would need these to be great if I'm gonna swap my 6T which has been performing a lot better with Gcam
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time
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After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time
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You're making the right decision I've had a 6T and A70 and the 6T has a much better camera specially in low light which is the real weak point of the A70. Megapixels are just numbers and doesn't say anything about camera quality. The camera and fingerprint sensor are the two weakest points of this phone. I didn't like the fingerprint reader even in the 6T as I found it annoying but this one is even worse and I rely on face unlock and only use fingerprints for authorization in banking apps etc. However screen is better and battery life is much better.
manus31 said:
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
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Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Yea,seems to be a bit of a disappointment overall for this phone,glad I didn't go for it,shame because on paper it seems ideal
I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.
OC-Freak said:
I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.
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Hi,
Nice statement, but comparing a A70 and a mi9 SE is kind of pointless.
I don't think you can compare a 5.9" display phone with a 6.7" display phone.
Even if the rest is nearly identical.
Don't get me wrong.
I am a great Xiaomi fan.
If Xiaomi would have released a smartphone ABOVE 6.5" AND with a decent SoC, I would have gone for that immediatly.
But the only "phablet" in the Xiaomi range of products is the mi Max 3 (that I currently have) and that one does have a SD 636 and it has really horrible latency when you touch the display.
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Are you sure you have enabled fast charging in settings? Battery / Settings / Fast Charging With Cable.
Just a thought, mine charges from 10% to 100 % in about an hour and a half.
Do remember that 25w charging is only enabled when the screen is off or the AOD is activated. Whenever the screen is on, even on the lockscreen, it'll be limited to 6w.
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
My cons and pros.
Pros:
Excellent non-edge screen while still having minor bezels.
Superb battery life.
Fast daily usage.
Cons:
Poor nighttime camera.
Bottom firing speaker is weak and tinny sounding.
Like most in-screen fingerprint readers it is a bit slow to unlock.
Only con for me is Finger Print scanner
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Camera quality is not that good. Missing lot of options mainly stabilization etc..
Sound is week. Speaker volume should be 85% or more to listen clearly and only one speaker which is at bottom.
doesn't play 4k video only 1080 60fps. (may be because of mid range phone)
one ui is like for kids.
check for other options also instead of spending huge amount on s10+ as well.
naurez_aasi said:
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
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Since you don't care much for the camera, save yourself several hundreds of bucks and go for the A70: bigger screen, bigger battery. At least, that's what I go for if I was in your shoes.
Should be fine
naurez_aasi said:
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
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I recently purchased the A70 n its a good phone. Hasn't lagged at all n is snappy too.
Just like u i use my phone primarily for social media consumption. The battery's great. I do play some games on it like gods of rome, asphalt 8 n they haven't lagged at all. Can't say anything about camera quality cause i dont take photos n simply put i just don't have any interestin details n stuff. If i can make out the objects in the photo then that's all i need from the phone. So according to me the phone is great. I would recommend buying it. If all u do is social media then s10 is an overkill n a waste of money.
naurez_aasi said:
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
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I you don't care that much about camera quality you can't go wrong with A70 considering the huge difference in price.
Toyota Or Lexus?
IMO.. The Answer Is Simple..
If you can afford to get the S10+.. That's what you purchase.
The A70 is a Good Phone.
The S10 / S10+ is a "Flagship Phone"
It will get the Major Updates Faster and Longer from Samsung.
It will get FAR MORE Developer Support over the long haul from Some of the Elite-Recognized-Developers here on XDA.
It will have Greater Resale Value.. AND Trade-In Value over the next 2 years if you choose to upgrade.
The Exynos 9820 ( if that is what's available to you in your region ) is not quite on par with the Snapdragon 855.. but it's still going to have the ability to play more graphic intensive games, run HDR-10+ etc.. as we move into the 2020's.. you'll be glad you have that extra horsepower to handle not just today's entertainment.. but tomorrows entertainment as well.
You can find video comparisons of the A70 vs S10+ and Exynos 9820 vs Snapdragon 855 on youtube.
If you are counting your pennies.. A70
If you want the best.. S10 / S10+ OR.. The Incredible OnePlus 7 Pro.. Which will get TREMENDOUS Developer support.
Never Be Afraid To Buy The Best.. In The End.. It Will Give You The Most Satisfaction..
ssurampu said:
Camera quality is not that good. Missing lot of options mainly stabilization etc..
Sound is week. Speaker volume should be 85% or more to listen clearly and only one speaker which is at bottom.
doesn't play 4k video only 1080 60fps. (may be because of mid range phone)
one ui is like for kids.
check for other options also instead of spending huge amount on s10+ as well.
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Can you give me other options?
naurez_aasi said:
Can you give me other options?
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Get the Huawei Mate 20X. It's a beast
Yes mate 20x, I waited so long for that but still not available in Pakistan.
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I;d get the OnePlus 7 Pro if I wanted to spend that much but I don't see the need. The A70 does what I need for much less.
Nizamani said:
Yes mate 20x, I waited so long for that but still not available in Pakistan.
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Can you tell me hows your A70 going. I heard there are issues with touch.
I don't have touch issues but touch screen is so sensitive, I can use my a70 with headphones wire , also bezels are so small that you unintentionally touch screen with palm of hand , I don't have any ghost touches.
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Just wondering. Anyone seen it on display at Best Buy yet?
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Just wondering. Anyone seen it on display at Best Buy yet?
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It is by me in NY.
My local Best Buy doesn't have them, but my local Best Buy is small. I might head out to the larger one an hour away to see if they have one.
VZTech said:
It is by me in NY.
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Which one?
Yes : VA
I love the new camera ui. Wish someone could get the apk ))
Polishow said:
Which one?
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All of them
My bestbuy in Battle creek Michigan has them, and I held the Black S20 ultra and its awesome, can`t wait for mine to come from Samsung.
I'm in Westchester County, N.Y. The Best Buy at Hartsdale doesn't have it but the Best Buy at Yonkers does. They have the Galaxy Fold inside a glass encasing like it's something holy lmao
But the S20 Ultra is a mammoth. Holy crap. When I held my Pixel 4 XL to it, I just felt like the Pixel has been so outclassed. The screen is so much better on the S20 Ultra, it's loads better than the Note 10 too.
I was on the fence about buying it, but it's happening now. It's going to be nice to have a wide angle lens, higher brightness, SD card, etc. again.
I'm in Maryland, near Washington DC and my local Best Buy had on their display
Elastep said:
Yes : VA
I love the new camera ui. Wish someone could get the apk ))
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It brings back the pro mode in video, correct?
That was the biggest slap in the face when they removed it!
Played around with it and it's as expected. Activated 120Hz and it's fluid for sure.
Brightness was at 100% and no issues with seeing the display at 200+ foot candle "showroom" levels!
Interestingly enough, 8K capture was locked out. Played some music and it was hard to hear (80dB ambient!) but I could really feel the bass through the back glass panel almost like it was a passive radiator. Not sure if this is a good thing or not.
Checked security patch and it's obvious this thing can go past 88mph because it's been to the future! Patch level is March 01!
cpufrost said:
Played around with it and it's as expected. Activated 120Hz and it's fluid for sure.
Brightness was at 100% and no issues with seeing the display at 200+ foot candle "showroom" levels!
Interestingly enough, 8K capture was locked out. Played some music and it was hard to hear (80dB ambient!) but I could really feel the bass through the back glass panel almost like it was a passive radiator. Not sure if this is a good thing or not.
Checked security patch and it's obvious this thing can go past 88mph because it's been to the future! Patch level is March 01!
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Wonder how long til they get screen burned. 1 month?
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Hmm I just left Best buy can compared camera between ultra, 20 plus and my s10 plus, I'm not sure why but the s20 plus produced the best pictures inside of bestbuy, now I'm wondering if I should cancel my preorder for the ultra
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Hmm I just left Best buy can compared camera between ultra, 20 plus and my s10 plus, I'm not sure why but the s20 plus produced the best pictures inside of bestbuy, now I'm wondering if I should cancel my preorder for the ultra
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Samsung still messing around with the new sensor on the Ultra. It will get better, and surpass the plus in time.
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Wonder how long til they get screen burned. 1 month?
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It shouldn't if proper countermeasures are in place. I've never had an iPhone OLED get burn in even my 2+ year old X that's been plugged into the charger and running at brightness 100% for hours every day as a music controller. Granted, I'm actually trying to get some afterimage and it's not happening. Probably because I WANT it! LOL
Thanks for the info i went to bestbuy to compare.I turned on the 120 hz mode then i started comparing it to my s10+ . Damn now i cannot unsee how fluid it was when i was scrolling through browsers and the luancher. Cannot wait to get the s20 ultra .
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It shouldn't if proper countermeasures are in place. I've never had an iPhone OLED get burn in even my 2+ year old X that's been plugged into the charger and running at brightness 100% for hours every day as a music controller. Granted, I'm actually trying to get some afterimage and it's not happening. Probably because I WANT it! LOL
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I was referring to the display models at Best buy that the person I quoted mentioned.
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Just played around with one at my local best buy. I was surprised with it having only 4 Gb Ram available. Hope thats not the case for retail units. I don't really play games on my phone, so i am hoping to always around 8-9 gb available.
Djapatos said:
Just played around with one at my local best buy. I was surprised with it having only 4 Gb Ram available. Hope thats not the case for retail units. I don't really play games on my phone, so i am hoping to always around 8-9 gb available.
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Unused RAM is wasted RAM, and wasted battery. The phone reserves some for quick load times but will kill apps to load larger ones seemlessly.
Of course the big main screen is the #1 positive.
If anything is going to break this deal its
#1 the small cover screen first and foremost.
#2 it's the cameras but I've been surprisingly OK with the ZF3 shots lately.
How Bout you?
i shifted to all apple last year and im so in love with my iphone 12 pro max, i love the eco system
but i still want to buy Samsung as i love the extra customization and its like tab and phone
my main concerns
are there any cases from rhinoshield or any well known brands? my phone falls to much from my hands
my last s20 ultra have so much focus issues that never wanted to go back to samsung, maybe i got a defective unit 12 pro max cam is awesome
the inside screen quality, i watched a durability test and the nails still damage the inner screen
I went the opposite way. I just returned my z-fold 3 because of the battery life and the cameras. The s-pen flip case was absolutely horrid. I just feel for a $1,900 phone, it was underwhelming. I'm hoping on the z-fold 4, they put the s-pen solo in the phone. It just wasn't the note replacement I hoped it would be. I ordered an s21 ultra 512 GB but I won't be here till the end of the month so I'm looking forward to that now.
I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
I went from S21 Ultra to Fold 3, I certainly won't be going back to to a candy bar phone again. The cameras do a good enough job for me, the S21 camera array would have been nice, but I do wonder how much it would bump the price up.
I don't mind the outside screen either, certainly easier to type 1 handed, where the S21 U was quite wide to use like that.
I found this video the other day, regarding the cameras
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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.
bs3pro said:
I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Maybe in your opinion but I have my own. The cameras are basically up to par with my Note 20 5G. Maybe you are willing to sacrifice to have a folding screen but I am not. Cellular reception also was worse and I have a feeling that is what was killing the battery. By all means enjoy your F3 and I'll enjoy my S21. Like I said, I am looking forward to the Fold 4.
I love my fold3. The battery life isn't great, but try turning off your 5G. That should help out quite a bit. Plus you won't be able to tell the difference with the speeds unless you're using ultra wideband.
S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021
S21U to ZF3. I've gotten settled into the Fold 3 after a few days - I had to swap out my email app of choice (Nine) for Outlook to help with the battery (Nine has always been a bit of a hog, but it tips the scales to "not a full day" whereas Outlook plays nicer). I'm now getting a full business day (12hrs) but not much more.
I've got a little stand and BT keyboard taking its place as an iPad Mini Pro as welll...
I will miss the S21U cameras (I still have it...not giving it up so quickly!) so it's def form vs. function.
My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.
xenx said:
My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.
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Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)
mickliq said:
Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)
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Well, didn't usually carry the tablet with me as much as use it around the house. That said, yes. Not only is the tablet a second battery, it's a larger second battery. I expected higher usage, I just didn't expect as much as I should have. I do have the ability to bring a battery if needed, I just don't need to in most cases.
Totally get it. It's just helpful to think about the loss of the large 2nd battery
dezborders said:
S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021
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rockky said:
Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.
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I took the ZF3 and S21U out together today and did camera tests on my own and was amazed how well the ZF3 matched the S21U. (cept for zoom and macro)
Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.
iceepyon said:
Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.
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S21u outside of USA and SK has the "inferior" Exynos chip which has different performance and heat management (and also different ISP for processing images taken with cameras)
It's a difficult question ... Upgrade from S21u to F3?
Personally I'd say if you want to try foldable phones the F3 is the one to go for
If camera is most important to you stick with the S21U
bs3pro said:
I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol
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My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol
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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL
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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL
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As a phone enthusiast (read addict), I have owned in the last 12 months.... Note 20 Ultra, iPhone 12 Pro Max, Xiaomi Mi 11 5g, S21 ultra and now the Z Fold3.
The Fold 3 is 1000s times more advanced and exciting to use than any of the other devices mentioned above... however the Z range cameras are stuck at 12mp from 2019 S10 era.
I agree pictures taken with a Z Fold3 are good or even excellent in most cases....
however, if you claim 2.0 optical zoom in F3 is technically as good as 10x optical zoom in S21U , or thar 108MP with Laser autofocus on S21u is not "better" than basic 12mp main lens on the Z Fold, you are mistaken my friend
(and lets not even begin to discuss the 4 FOUR! megapixel under-screen-camera lol )
To clarify .... I ABSOLUTELTY LOVE my Z Fold3!
I just think Samsung has missed the opportunity to release the ULTIMATE "UNBEATABLE" smartphone by not including 2021 spec camera module from the S21 Ultra. (The Note range always matched or exceeded the cameras in the S range from 6 months previous so why not do the same with the Z range?).