I've had my pixel 3 xl for 2 weeks now, and was intent on using nacho notch to hide it initially.
I did some reading up on nacho and a couple of other options and went to do some more research on the pros and cons.
by the time I'd read what I wanted to, I have to say... the notch really doesn't bother me now. I barely notice it
anyone else in the same boat?
or do you still hate it with a passion?
I don't like it, but overall the screen is so much better than the 2 XL so I deal with it.
I hid it at first with Nacho Notch then left the notch on for a while and have gotten used to it.
Tried it for a week, hated it, almost returned the phone because of it. Then I just disabled it and now love the phone. Also tried nacho notch but it's got some quirks I still don't like.
Doesn't bother me but I prefer to have it hidden.
I don't mind it at all. I've used Nacho Notch since day one.
skiierx131 said:
Tried it for a week, hated it, almost returned the phone because of it. Then I just disabled it and now love the phone. Also tried nacho notch but it's got some quirks I still don't like.
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How did you disable it without Nacho?
I don't hide it because I like the status bar up there and out of the way. At first I thought it was a terrible idea but once I used the phone I don't mind it at all. Nacho makes the screen smaller so I don't use it.
y2grae said:
How did you disable it without Nacho?
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developer options > display cutout
uicnren said:
developer options > display cutout
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What category is it under? I don't see that as an option
y2grae said:
What category is it under? I don't see that as an option
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you need to enable developer options.
settings > system > about phone
scroll down to build number, and tap it 7 times, follow the prompts
uicnren said:
developer options > display cutout
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uicnren said:
you need to enable developer options.
settings > system > about phone
scroll down to build number, and tap it 7 times, follow the prompts
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I've got developer options unlocked. (that's one of the very first things I always do)
I've got the first few options, then debugging, networking, input, drawing, hardware accelerated rendering, media, monitoring, apps,
but don't see display cutout
I just use nacho notch. Was the first app I DLed when I set up the phone. It isnt perfect, but good enough.
y2grae said:
I've got developer options unlocked. (that's one of the very first things I always do)
I've got the first few options, then debugging, networking, input, drawing, hardware accelerated rendering, media, monitoring, apps,
but don't see display cutout
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Search in the settings menu for 'notch'
y2grae said:
I've got developer options unlocked. (that's one of the very first things I always do)
I've got the first few options, then debugging, networking, input, drawing, hardware accelerated rendering, media, monitoring, apps,
but don't see display cutout
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Easy as 1, 2, 3...
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Easy as 1, 2, 3...
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Bingo
though I'm now used to the notch, it looks wierd without
Noticed it a little bit on the first day, decided not to hide it and now I don't even notice it. I quite like how the status bar/icons are tucked right up there.
The notch is actually not that bad in person. Photos make it look much bigger.
I love the device but can't tolerate the notch so I hid it.
Misterxtc said:
I don't hide it because I like the status bar up there and out of the way. At first I thought it was a terrible idea but once I used the phone I don't mind it at all. Nacho makes the screen smaller so I don't use it.
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Nacho Notch does not make the screen smaller. It keeps the icons up in the top corners.
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Nacho Notch does not make the screen smaller. It keeps the icons up in the top corners.
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Yup my mistake. I was thinking when you hide it in dev options. Still I don't care for the blacked out area either. I'd rather have my background fill it.
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How come no one suggested "Hide Display Cutout" to hide the Pixel 3 XL notch?
So, I did a google search because well, the notch on this thing is hella unsightly. The search was a shot in a dark and I came up with this link:
https://www.gadgetmatch.com/how-to-turn-off-notch-on-pixel-3xl/
Simplest thing in the world to turn off the notch apparently. I mean holy crap simple:
How to turn off the notch on the Pixel 3 XL:
First enable Developer Mode on your device. Dive into Settings > System > Advanced > About Phone.
Tap on Build Number seven times. Yes, seven times.
A new Develop Options menu will now appear in the Settings Menu. Dive into Developer Options.
Scroll down and look for Display Cutout under the Drawing heading
Tick the hide checkbox.
So, um, why all the third-party apps that don't work? This works in landscape mode so far in all the apps I've tested.
sanjsrik said:
So, I did a google search because well, the notch on this thing is hella unsightly. The search was a shot in a dark and I came up with this link:
https://www.gadgetmatch.com/how-to-turn-off-notch-on-pixel-3xl/
Simplest thing in the world to turn off the notch apparently. I mean holy crap simple:
How to turn off the notch on the Pixel 3 XL:
First enable Developer Mode on your device. Dive into Settings > System > Advanced > About Phone.
Tap on Build Number seven times. Yes, seven times.
A new Develop Options menu will now appear in the Settings Menu. Dive into Developer Options.
Scroll down and look for Display Cutout under the Drawing heading
Tick the hide checkbox.
So, um, why all the third-party apps that don't work? This works in landscape mode so far in all the apps I've tested.
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I know, right! Never understood it either. I hid mine on day 1 and it's still like that.
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My guess is that some apps get affected?????
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Eudeferrer said:
I know, right! Never understood it either. I hid mine on day 1 and it's still like that.
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My guess is that some apps get affected?????
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I'm on the q beta 3 and so far everything i've used hasn't been affected. So, if it was really this easy why all the hubbub-bub? I don't get it. Everyone descries this notch and yet I was able to turn it off immediately on following these steps.
My boss ordered the 3 SPECIFICALLY because he didn't like the notch, so, um, yeah, I'm showing him this tomorrow.
Well, the disadvantage this method has compared to the apps is the loss of screen space. The status bar is pushed below the notch, while the apps just blackout the status bar to hide it.
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I know so many people who after 1 day (if that) simply reply with "what notch?"
It really doesn't bother me at all on a personal level
y2grae said:
I know so many people who after 1 day (if that) simply reply with "what notch?"
It really doesn't bother me at all on a personal level
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I agree with this sentiment 100%. Doesn't bother me in the least.
i almost didnt get the phone because of the notch... now that i have it, i really dont care as it doesnt bother me
im glad i didnt pass
It doesn't bother me either.
It only bothers the people that don't have the phone. The people that do have the phone have no issues with the notch
the notch lol. I barely even notice it. had the 3 xl for about 4 months now. doesn't bother me none
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I know so many people who after 1 day (if that) simply reply with "what notch?"
It really doesn't bother me at all on a personal level
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I agree. Thought it would be bothersome, but doesn't bug me at all. Barely even pay attention to it.
OP is right.
I think people kinda missed this. I did this on the first day because I watch a lot of youtube and use google search so it kinda shows up the most on those.
But honestly, best setting ever. I thought their was talk about Google adding more Display Cutout options, so that it would be black on both sides of the notch, this way you wouldn't lose any screen size, but the notch is hidden. Kind of like the OP6T has.
We've known about this since day one. The reason most of us don't want to use it is because we understand that the notch actually fills a purpose. It lets you move the status bar up, freeing screen space. That setting is designed to test how apps would work on a Pixel 3. It's not a hide notch function designed for end users. @Alekos, Google has said that they will add the ability to hide the notch. This hasn't happened so far sadly.
As for "apps that don't work", Nacho Notch works flawlessly for me, and becomes better with every update. This lets me keep the status bar on the side of the notch, but blacks it out.
I've personally never noticed the notch that much regardless though. If you really dislike the notch, I feel like a Pixel 3 junior might be the better choice.
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....... @Alekos, Google has said that they will add the ability to hide the notch. This hasn't happened so far sadly.
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Yes you are right. They said they would release a few options for the notch cutout. And they never kept their word. Kind of disappoints me because the need to keep their word, They aren't Oppo or Samsung )
Use Nacho Notch from the play store. It hides the notch, but leaves your status bar icons where they should be.
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Use Nacho Notch from the play store. It hides the notch, but leaves your status bar icons where they should be.
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The rounded corners don't appeal to me. Square looks better. ?
or just use the phone for more than 1 day and be like the rest of us who "don't notice the notch" anymore.
most of us were adamant we'd "do something about it"
really is more hassle to hide than it is to just use it as it comes
I use the Nacho Notch app from the Playstore instead. It puts a black bar across so you can still use the space for status bar icons.
Would recommend over hiding the notch in developer settings.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nachonotch&hl=en_US
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You can use it without the rounded corners. I agree it does look better.
Tulsadiver said:
The rounded corners don't appeal to me. Square looks better.
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shiftr182 said:
Use Nacho Notch from the play store. It hides the notch, but leaves your status bar icons where they should be.
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Which widget is that ?
shiftr182 said:
Use Nacho Notch from the play store. It hides the notch, but leaves your status bar icons where they should be.
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Yup, this. Such a better use of space.
Hello.
Take this video to 2:53: https://youtu.be/SIpuT2jmRx8
Any way to do same with our device?
I know about Nacho Notch, but I don't find a way to get the icons bellow notch.
Thanks
romulocarlos said:
Hello.
Take this video to 2:53: https://youtu.be/SIpuT2jmRx8
Any way to do same with our device?
I know about Nacho Notch, but I don't find a way to get the icons bellow notch.
Thanks
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This phone has a IPS display. So you can't totally hide the notch since you can see the screen lit up up there. Also the notch is pretty big, why would you want to change its shape?
TheoXSD said:
This phone has a IPS display. So you can't totally hide the notch since you can see the screen lit up up there. Also the notch is pretty big, why would you want to change its shape?
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On the video the youtuuber just put the icons bellow the notch. Is what I ask if is possible!
romulocarlos said:
On the video the youtuuber just put the icons bellow the notch. Is what I ask if is possible!
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Check my answer again. The youtuber disabled the notch on an AMOLED display. While any android phone you can disable the notch using various methods, on IPS displays you're still going to see the notch. While icons are moved down under the notch area, you also lose display space.
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Check my answer again. The youtuber disabled the notch on an AMOLED display. While any android phone you can disable the notch using various methods, on IPS displays you're still going to see the notch. While icons are moved down under the notch area, you also lose display space.
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I understood your reply, friend. Maybe I'm not being clear because language.
Yes, I want to move icons under notch area. I know I'll lose screen space, but maybe is less annoying than icons disappearing under a point.
romulocarlos said:
I understood your reply, friend. Maybe I'm not being clear because language.
Yes, I want to move icons under notch area. I know I'll lose screen space, but maybe is less annoying than icons disappearing under a point.
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Without root you can't. Use that app, or if you don't want to use it, you can find some Magisk modules that can do that for you.
Xiaomi removed the options to hide the notch from the developer menu.
TheoXSD said:
Without root you can't. Use that app, or if you don't want to use it, you can find some Magisk modules that can do that for you.
Xiaomi removed the options to hide the notch from the developer menu.
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Thank you for answer. I'm already using Nacho, but if I need root to get icons bellow notch, for now it will stay stock.
Anyway, can you point me to a tutorial for this?
romulocarlos said:
Thank you for answer. I'm already using Nacho, but if I need root to get icons bellow notch, for now it will stay stock.
Anyway, can you point me to a tutorial for this?
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Install: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-install-magisk-proper-support-ota-t3836952
The module: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/themes/magisk-module-notch-killer-ignore-t3894060
Thanks you
So I was investigating a little about the matter, I noticed that
A) albeit not visible, it was in the settings app's layouts as gesture_navigation_bar_deprecated
in op_navigation_bar_gestures_settings.xml
B) it had settings(op_gesture_button_side_enabled and others) I could manipulate through adb
What I have found out:
If you run
adb shell settings put system op_gesture_button_side_enabled 0
the back gesture gets put back to the bottom edge. However it isn't all good, as the assistant gesture stays in the corner, and the home/appswitcher gesture gets triggered a lot too, when using the back gesture.
I hope someone has an idea how to improve on this, as in its current form it is highly useless, and I wouldn't recommend it.
OMG PLEASE keep investigating this. i am desparate to change back to old Oneplus gestures!!
What's the benefit to the OnePlus gestures?
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OuncE718 said:
What's the benefit to the OnePlus gestures?
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The back gestures is from bottom edge either side, so it doesn't conflict with almost every app as Google's implementation does
phynesse said:
OMG PLEASE keep investigating this. i am desparate to change back to old Oneplus gestures!!
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If I have time I do.
Don't worry I'll keep you posted if I find anything
Interesting but it could be code that has not been cleaned up, it may disappear in a future release.
If you want old OnePlus gestures, you can use : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nobar
With option "Split the pill in 3" and "Hide navbar", you can have (and customize) the same old OnePlus gestures.
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Interesting but it could be code that has not been cleaned up, it may disappear in a future release.
If you want old OnePlus gestures, you can use : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nobar
With option "Split the pill in 3" and "Hide navbar", you can have (and customize) the same old OnePlus gestures.
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You do know that all other op devices with a10 have the old gestures too?
Peketr said:
The back gestures is from bottom edge either side, so it doesn't conflict with almost every app as Google's implementation does
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Ohhhhhh, in that case IDK why they took that away cause Google's gestures definitely gets in the way. It takes some getting used to.
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I wouldn't mind Google's if it was just on lower half of the screen or even just on the right side. I wonder if we can modify this.
hi, i tried everything, but finally using Fluid gesture , highly recommend for anyone in search for smooth customization gestures
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.fluid&hl=en_IN
Where did you find the xml file?
Peketr said:
So I was investigating a little about the matter, I noticed that
A) albeit not visible, it was in the settings app's layouts as gesture_navigation_bar_deprecated
in op_navigation_bar_gestures_settings.xml
B) it had settings(op_gesture_button_side_enabled and others) I could manipulate through adb
What I have found out:
If you run
adb shell settings put system op_gesture_button_side_enabled 0
the back gesture gets put back to the bottom edge. However it isn't all good, as the assistant gesture stays in the corner, and the home/appswitcher gesture gets triggered a lot too, when using the back gesture.
I hope someone has an idea how to improve on this, as in its current form it is highly useless, and I wouldn't recommend it.
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texasaggie1 said:
Where did you find the xml file?
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By decompiling the Settings.apk
ChongoDroid said:
I wouldn't mind Google's if it was just on lower half of the screen or even just on the right side. I wonder if we can modify this.
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Actually if you do a curve swipe, where it seems like you're swiping on the edge a but, it opens the hamburger menu and does not trigger back. Takes time to get used to, but once you do, it's just never misses anymore.
Mohammed779 said:
Actually if you do a curve swipe, where it seems like you're swiping on the edge a but, it opens the hamburger menu and does not trigger back. Takes time to get used to, but once you do, it's just never misses anymore.
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Yeah I do that, but it doesn't always work, for example Discord starts scrolling so this doesn't work 50% of the time
Yeah I can't stand Google's just a navigation I love the old one plus full screen navigation gestures and the reason I'm still on the OnePlus 6t is because I really don't want to lose that option.
Peketr said:
So I was investigating a little about the matter, I noticed that
A) albeit not visible, it was in the settings app's layouts as gesture_navigation_bar_deprecated
B) it had settings(op_gesture_button_side_enabled and others) I could manipulate through adb
What I have found out:
If you run
adb shell settings put system op_gesture_button_side_enabled 0
the back gesture gets put back to the bottom edge. However it isn't all good, as the assistant gesture stays in the corner, and the home/appswitcher gesture gets triggered a lot too, when using the back gesture.
I hope someone has an idea how to improve on this, as in its current form it is highly useless, and I wouldn't recommend it.
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Hi, if you go > Settings > Apps >Default Apps > Assist app > Assist app > None you can disable corner google assistant.
I've tried it and google assistant dissapear from the corner, but as you say gesture gets triggered a lot. Surely there is some parameters we can change via ADB to make it work smoothly...
juanute said:
Hi, if you go > Settings > Apps >Default Apps > Assist app > Assist app > None you can disable corner google assistant.
I've tried it and google assistant dissapear from the corner, but as you say gesture gets triggered a lot. Surely there is some parameters we can change via ADB to make it work smoothly...
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But then you lose assistant, which isn't ideal either. Don't really have time for investigating further, hope by the time I do it won't be necessary.
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I just read on offical OnePlus forums about the L-shaped gesture to open the hamburger menus. Just swipe a little bit down on the left side and then to the right. It will open the hamburger menu and works from top to bottom. Another method is using the two finger swipe from the left border to the right. I'm quite pleased with this solution. It's a pitty they don't documented it in the changelog.
Of course is Fluid Navigation a nice solution to get more advanced gestures.
For anyone interested in adding Motorola's fantastic chop for flashlight and twist for camera I recommend this app
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...vitygestures-moto-actions-alike-t3383760/amp/
It lets you program five different motion gestures to any app and even allows you to fine-tune it. The only caveat is for the gesture to work you have to turn your screen on first. You don't have to unlock it. I just press the side the button then do gesture.
The closest thing to Motorola's far superior gusture and navagation. I wish the OEMs would just scrap theirs and go with Motorola's.
Peketr said:
But then you lose assistant, which isn't ideal either. Don't really have time for investigating further, hope by the time I do it won't be necessary.
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I have Assistant linked to the power button. It's another option you can use instead. It's an official settings option.
Dabylpmis said:
I just read on offical OnePlus forums about the L-shaped gesture to open the hamburger menus. Just swipe a little bit down on the left side and then to the right. It will open the hamburger menu and works from top to bottom. Another method is using the two finger swipe from the left border to the right. I'm quite pleased with this solution. It's a pitty they don't documented it in the changelog.
Of course is Fluid Navigation a nice solution to get more advanced gestures.
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Another way of doing this (which is what I usually do now) is to tap and hold on the very edge of the screen until the side menu peeks out. Then slide it open.
I know I am probably late to the party, but in developer option, there is an enabled freeform feature.
Then in the recent app drawer, tap the icon and select freeform...
This is a tip in case you didn't know. This is multitasking at a new level.
That's been around for a VERY LONG TIME.
But not very good on a phone because of the screen size and method of interaction. Its better on big screen devices with a mouse.
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I know I am probably late to the party, but in developer option, there is an enabled freeform feature.
Then in the recent app drawer, tap the icon and select freeform...
This is a tip in case you didn't know. This is multitasking at a new level.
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Just wish we could open apps and overlay on those, not useful to have home screen only
iRhyiku said:
Just wish we could open apps and overlay on those, not useful to have home screen only
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Try to picture the idea behind it. The objective here was to use Android as a replacement for a traditional desktop/laptop and thus follows that kind of pattern, and they were on the verge of replacing chromeos with it. Its very unfortunate that they didn't go through with it.
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Just wish we could open apps and overlay on those, not useful to have home screen only
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Here you go. LSPosed app Mi-freeform
I keep a collapsed bubble pinned to the side of the screen with 5 apps i use with it almost every day
Requires Shizuku
I actually prefer the older beta 1.0.5
https://index.teamfiles.workers.dev/0:/Mi-Freeform%20v1.0.5%20beta.apk
Link came form Teamfiles Repo
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That's been around for a VERY LONG TIME.
But not very good on a phone because of the screen size and method of interaction. Its better on big screen devices with a mouse.
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Well this is new to me.
I'm going through eye surgery and one of the things that I use quite a bit is the accessibility magnification.
In the latest versions of Android OS, there's some kind of floating thing that sticks to the sides of the screen and is almost constantly in the way of something I need to tab or whatever.
Loved it so much better when I had access to the button down at the bottom. I could just click it when I needed it.
So is there any way to put that back? I honestly did try to search but I don't think I'm using the correct search terms so I never found anything useful.
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I'm going through eye surgery and one of the things that I use quite a bit is the accessibility magnification.
In the latest versions of Android OS, there's some kind of floating thing that sticks to the sides of the screen and is almost constantly in the way of something I need to tab or whatever.
Loved it so much better when I had access to the button down at the bottom. I could just click it when I needed it.
So is there any way to put that back? I honestly did try to search but I don't think I'm using the correct search terms so I never found anything useful.
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that shortcut is moveable but you are right, it can get in the way and is annoying.
Are you using 3 button navigation? In the accessability options under Acessability Shortcut, it says you need to use 3 button nav for it appear in the navigation bar.
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that shortcut is moveable but you are right, it can get in the way and is annoying.
Are you using 3 button navigation? In the accessability options under Acessability Shortcut, it says you need to use 3 button nav for it appear in the navigation bar.
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Huh. I have a three button navigation running. I'll have to look at the settings and see what I'm missing. I don't suppose it makes any difference that this is a pixel 6 pro running the latest?
kylebellamy said:
Huh. I have a three button navigation running. I'll have to look at the settings and see what I'm missing. I don't suppose it makes any difference that this is a pixel 6 pro running the latest?
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Yeah, I just checked the settings and it is definitely on and there is no indication or slider or anything that says to add it to the navigation bar.
First of all, I don't run the factory system image, I run GrapheneOS, which is a security minded distribution of google-free AOSP.
Looks like the option you're looking for is at the bottom of the accessibility menu, "Accessibility shortcuts". Go in there and select "Accessibility button", then "Location", and select "Navigation bar". That would do it for you, at least on Graphene. Hope it helps.
Oh you rock!!
What an odd place to put that choice. It's buired where I wouldn't think to look for it.