Proof? Google Is Shipping Users Verizon Phones Instead Of Unlocked Ones - Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers

So my boot loader is not unlockable on my 64 GB Just Black Unlocked Pixel 3 XL and I just could not stop researching this while I waited for my RMA.
In chrome when searching at the top, the following string is inside the search (You have to search for something not go to a website) client=ms-android-verizon
Getting into some of the engineering settings *#*#4636#*#*
Going to Usage Statistics
See screenshots below. Can someone on an Unlocked Pixel 3 XL with an Unlockable boot loader confirm these are there or not?

Xaikar said:
So my boot loader is not unlockable on my 64 GB Just Black Unlocked Pixel 3 XL and I just could not stop researching this while I waited for my RMA.
In chrome when searching at the top, the following string is inside the search (You have to search for something not go to a website) client=ms-android-verizon
Getting into some of the engineering settings *#*#4636#*#*
Going to Usage Statistics
See screenshots below. Can someone on an Unlocked Pixel 3 XL with an Unlockable boot loader confirm these are there or not?
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I have those two in my "usage statistics" as well. Ahhhhh. I think i might just go for the RMA. Thank you for this post. !!!!

I have an unlocked phone from Google for all carriers (not just VZW). The only thing I have listed of the 3 is VZW_Multicast_MW.

airmaxx23 said:
I have an unlocked phone from Google for all carriers (not just VZW). The only thing I have listed of the 3 is VZW_Multicast_MW.
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Could you also check the google chrome search string and let me know the results?

Xaikar said:
Could you also check the google chrome search string and let me know the results?
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I show: client=ms-android-google

airmaxx23 said:
I show: client=ms-android-google
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I just don't see at this point how this is a software issue Google can "Fix" its starting to look like something else to me. If anyone else has more ideas let me know willing to try anything.

Xaikar said:
I just don't see at this point how this is a software issue Google can "Fix" its starting to look like something else to me. If anyone else has more ideas let me know willing to try anything.
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I have unlocked my bootloader and have vzw apps installed. Those are standard for accepting your sim cards. You should have Sprint on there somewhere also. Maybe other carriers as well. Standard. Afaik. Idk why you can't unlock your bl. Are your platform tools up to date? I have all those apps you listed and ordered mine from Google, 128 GB black. Received about a month ago.

its normal, if you have VZW sim it installs the correct packages to get certain carrier functions working (i.e img, volte, vowifi etc)

Bryanx86 said:
I have unlocked my bootloader and have vzw apps installed. Those are standard for accepting your sim cards. You should have Sprint on there somewhere also. Maybe other carriers as well. Standard. Afaik. Idk why you can't unlock your bl. Are your platform tools up to date? I have all those apps you listed and ordered mine from Google, 128 GB black. Received about a month ago.
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I like your thinking but I just got the RMA and its letting me unlock it! This one is also missing the following
Vzw OMA Trigger
com.verizon.llkagent
The ones I still have
VZW_Multicast_MW
So looks like different shipped phones

Looking at buying the device on Google store it defaults to the Verizon variant. So if you just blasted through the buying process you could've bought a Verizon model from Google. Also them "accidentally" shipping a Verizon model is just as likely so it could be either, but it's worth checking your receipt to see what you guys bought.
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superchilpil said:
Looking at buying the device on Google store it defaults to the Verizon variant. So if you just blasted through the buying process you could've bought a Verizon model from Google. Also them "accidentally" shipping a Verizon model is just as likely so it could be either, but it's worth checking your receipt to see what you guys bought.
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I had to read this post a 2 times before I deleted my rage comment. Yes I checked and I have attached my original purchase. I made sure it was unlocked.

I also bought unlocked from Google, I checked and didn't want to blur my info(so you'll just have to take my word on it)(or not), and I have all the listed apks from op. But I also had no issue unlocking it. Also to note, I have straight talk service that uses VZW towers, so that could also be the culprit. But I did blast through the buying process when Google released the 3xl, but had no ill effects. Lol

It was just a guess, but obviously I was wrong. I bought an unlocked model myself, popped in my verizon sim and ran stock for about two weeks before I unlocked the bootloader. So it has to be a device issue imo, else I'd be in the same boat if It had something to do with a Verizon sim.
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I bought unlocked and out my Verizon SIM in as well.
I might have unlocked before popping in SIM, I can't remember now =\
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There's already a thread speaking about this, feel free to join in and see everyone's input.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/oem-unlocking-grayed-t3860023/page17
There's a link to help Google notice the issue that someone posted. Follow up with that as well.

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Perhaps a dumb Question, but I'm a Bit New

I'm getting a VZ Pixel XL (hold the "you're buying it from where" comments, please) because I need to move rather quickly from a Note 7 to a less hostile phone. I'm paying full price, so I can avoid VZ's 2-year lockdown via contract. I'm hearing that, even for those that ordered right away from Google, their deliveries are extending into November, and I need a new phone before then (even assuming the reordering process reopened).
Is it possible to put the Stock Google Pixel software on this phone (assuming, if I understand this correctly, that either someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader, or VZ lets me do it, since I own the whole phone)?
I don't fully understand this 'locked bootloader' thing, even though I've been reading XDA for quite a while, so I don't even know if I'll attempt to do this - for now my question is academic. "Can it be done?"
Verizon locked the bootloader and I am not sure if @jcase or @beaups will try to unlock the bootloader. The phone has yet to be released. It has HTC drivers and we will in the near future find out if it can be unlocked or not. Jcase mentioned to buy the google phone from google if you want unlocked bootloader.
Right now, if you want a solid unlockable/rootable Verizon phone get a HTC 10, either unlocked do s-off and convert or buy Verizon and s-off it.
Verizon Pixel will NOT be unlockable, odds of it getting unlocked is unknown.
You won't be able to flash teh Google edition firmware without s-off/unlock, which it is unkown if we will see that.
Thanks for the information. It's not crucial that I put the Google software in it - more of a curious question for me. The few times I rooted a phone was to install BusyBox or Titanium; I really didn't fully exploit what root can do, lest I create a brick.
Given that I need to get into something *right now*, I can put up with VZW's, er, 'idiosyncrasies' to get what I want right away, and out of the Note 7.
n4ogl said:
Thanks for the information. It's not crucial that I put the Google software in it - more of a curious question for me. The few times I rooted a phone was to install BusyBox or Titanium; I really didn't fully exploit what root can do, lest I create a brick.
Given that I need to get into something *right now*, I can put up with VZW's, er, 'idiosyncrasies' to get what I want right away, and out of the Note 7.
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The Pixel you buy from Verizon has the "google software" . The only two differences it has from the one sold directly from Google is a locked bootloader and several Verizon apps that can be uninstalled. The locked bootloader will prevent you from installing custom software or rooting.
Didn't the Nexus 6 purchased from Google direct come with a locked bootloader? Same as the one bought from Verizon direct. What makes anyone think the Pixel will be any different? They all come locked....
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neyenlives said:
Didn't the Nexus 6 purchased from Google direct come with a locked bootloader? Same as the one bought from Verizon direct. What makes anyone think the Pixel will be any different? They all come locked....
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perhaps this.
neyenlives said:
Didn't the Nexus 6 purchased from Google direct come with a locked bootloader? Same as the one bought from Verizon direct. What makes anyone think the Pixel will be any different? They all come locked....
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All bootloaders are locked when shipped. The difference is the Verizon bootloader will be encrypted, rendering it unlockable without the key.
It was all just an illusion
jcase said:
Right now, if you want a solid unlockable/rootable Verizon phone get a HTC 10, either unlocked do s-off and convert or buy Verizon and s-off it.
Verizon Pixel will NOT be unlockable, odds of it getting unlocked is unknown.
You won't be able to flash teh Google edition firmware without s-off/unlock, which it is unkown if we will see that.
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@jcase what are the odds of both the Google sold Pixel and VZW sold Pixel having the exact same hardware and software out of the box and then the process of activating either phone on VZW is what renders the bootloader not unlockable (not sure if this is even possible), pushes the bloat from the play store (that can be done) and controls the software update process (this can be done as well)?
If this is true, then buying a Pixel from VZW and activating it on a non-VZW network would be the equivalent of buying it from Google.
uicnren said:
perhaps this.
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Yeah I don't see that as evidence until it's in hand. We all know nobody at Verizon that we have ever talked to has ever understood the difference between carrier lock and bootloader lock. At this point it's all speculation because a Verizon rep isn't a reliable source.
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neyenlives said:
Yeah I don't see that as evidence until it's in hand. We all know nobody at Verizon that we have ever talked to has ever understood the difference between carrier lock and bootloader lock. At this point it's all speculation because a Verizon rep isn't a reliable source.
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I have the evidence in hand, I've been studying the firmware for weeks
Does anybody think that vzw will block features in their phones that will not be in a Google bought phone?
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Do I have a Verizon Pixel XL?

...seems like a dumb question, right? Here's the deal, I broke my (Google) 64GB Nexus 6 last Saturday night... sucks, but I have insurance! So I file a claim, pay $150, and Asurion sends me a Verizon (my carrier) 32GB Nexus 6... I called them up and they told me that's all they had. After talking to a couple of people and me saying I would cancel the insurance if they couldn't give me the same device I insured, they mentioned they could give me a Pixel XL 32GB!!! Having missed the original preorders I've been trying like hell to preorder a Pixel XL with no luck, so this was a no brainer (although it sucks that it's only 32GB).
Fast forward a day, and I have my phone!!! But there are a couple of things off about it. For one, it doesn't say Verizon anywhere on the box, phone, within Android, boot up... nothing! There are also zero preloaded Verizon apps?! I thought they would at least put "MyVerizon" on it... So is there anywhere I can look to determine which version I have? Another thing, I've had a hell of a time getting it activated on Verizon. I had switched back to my old S4 after breaking my Nexus 6, and had to go to Verizon to get a micro-sim card. Nobody at Verizon has been able to register the phone with the new SIM card, after hours on hold I gave up and just cut my S4 micro-sim card - problem solved... but why couldn't Verizon activate the phone? That might be unrelated, just something I was thinking about.
One last note, I already ran depixel8 (which succeeded) on the phone. I'm not sure what would happen if this was done on a non-verizon version... but I can't test this by unlocking the bootloader since that's already done!
TLDR: Got Pixel XL from Asurion to replace my broken Nexus 6 I had previously used on Verizon, and I can't find any mention of Verizon anywhere! Did they send me a Google version of Verizon version?
Verizon versions aren't branded.
It was all just an illusion
trickster2369 said:
Verizon versions aren't branded.
It was all just an illusion
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Cool, so how do I know?
bought mine at a verizon store and it came the same way so your good lol
If you have a Verizon phone your build# will be NDE63P
N3V3RS3TTL3 said:
If you have a Verizon phone your build# will be NDE63P
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Then whats the Google phone on? L? jcase already commented on this and said that P is the current version regardless if it is from Verizon or Google.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pix...xel-xl-unlocking-discussions-t3484497/page109
N3V3RS3TTL3 said:
If you have a Verizon phone your build# will be NDE63P
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I don't think this necessarily means that it is a Verizon model since I have a Google Store purchased Pixel XL with the same build number.
My best guess to see if the phone is a Verizon model is if the bootloader is not unlockable.
Is the toggle in settings to allow bootloader unlocking grey or can you toggle it?
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imnuts said:
Is the toggle in settings to allow bootloader unlocking grey or can you toggle it?
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I cannot toggle it (and couldn't before unlocking it either). Is this really the only sign that the phone is a Verizon? Other than the boatloader (which was easily fixed) I guess Verizon deserves props for not screwing with the device! Or Google deserves props for not letting Verizon screw with it, lol.
DracoDan said:
I cannot toggle it (and couldn't before unlocking it either). Is this really the only sign that the phone is a Verizon? Other than the boatloader (which was easily fixed) I guess Verizon deserves props for not screwing with the device! Or Google deserves props for not letting Verizon screw with it, lol.
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Another thing you can do is look in "My Verizon" and see if it shows up as "Other Device" or Pixel XL. Other device would indicate a play store device which I highly doubt that they sent you.
Another thing you could do is install an app on the play store. When the drop down shows up it will say Verizon Google Pixel XL.
When I sign in to my Verizon account on my laptop, it lists my Google Pixel as: PIXEL NON-VZW.
DracoDan said:
...seems like a dumb question, right? Here's the deal, I broke my (Google) 64GB Nexus 6 last Saturday night... sucks, but I have insurance! So I file a claim, pay $150, and Asurion sends me a Verizon (my carrier) 32GB Nexus 6... I called them up and they told me that's all they had. After talking to a couple of people and me saying I would cancel the insurance if they couldn't give me the same device I insured, they mentioned they could give me a Pixel XL 32GB!!! Having missed the original preorders I've been trying like hell to preorder a Pixel XL with no luck, so this was a no brainer (although it sucks that it's only 32GB).
Fast forward a day, and I have my phone!!! But there are a couple of things off about it. For one, it doesn't say Verizon anywhere on the box, phone, within Android, boot up... nothing! There are also zero preloaded Verizon apps?! I thought they would at least put "MyVerizon" on it... So is there anywhere I can look to determine which version I have? Another thing, I've had a hell of a time getting it activated on Verizon. I had switched back to my old S4 after breaking my Nexus 6, and had to go to Verizon to get a micro-sim card. Nobody at Verizon has been able to register the phone with the new SIM card, after hours on hold I gave up and just cut my S4 micro-sim card - problem solved... but why couldn't Verizon activate the phone? That might be unrelated, just something I was thinking about.
One last note, I already ran depixel8 (which succeeded) on the phone. I'm not sure what would happen if this was done on a non-verizon version... but I can't test this by unlocking the bootloader since that's already done!
TLDR: Got Pixel XL from Asurion to replace my broken Nexus 6 I had previously used on Verizon, and I can't find any mention of Verizon anywhere! Did they send me a Google version of Verizon version?
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Reboot the phone to bootloader. Issue command "fastboot OEM getcid" that will tell for sure what do you have.
jamexman said:
Reboot the phone to bootloader. Issue command "fastboot OEM getcid" that will tell for sure what do you have.
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Yay, a definitive answer, thanks!!!
The back story here is interesting...
There are so many refurbs this soon in the game that Google is already letting Asurion have them... AND, they can use them to replace other brands of phones.
The flickering screens and maybe BT issues seem to be racking up some casualties. Meanwhile many of us have been waiting near a month for XL 128's
So much blood at the bleeding edge.
Hmm I have a Verizon version but yet the unlock isn't greyed out and I'm able to enable it....
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DracoDan said:
Yay, a definitive answer, thanks!!!
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You're welcome. What did the command tell you?
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evobyte said:
Hmm I have a Verizon version but yet the unlock isn't greyed out and I'm able to enable it....
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More than likely... You got a free for review phone no? Been discussed before...
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How to tell if Pixel XL is Google or Verizon Edition?

I bought a Pixel XL used on eBay and I can't seem to find any way of telling which version of the phone this is.
The model number is the same for the Verizon and Google models.
Anyone know of a way to distinguish the two?
Go to developer options and see if OEM unlocking is blocked out
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Go to developer options and see if OEM unlocking is blocked out
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That only works if new in-the-box.
Once unlocked the toggle is grayed out, even on the Google version.
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Actually it's greyed but says if the bootloader unlocked
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Actually it's greyed but says if the bootloader unlocked
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Ah, yes.
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This is going to sound stupid, but I was so excited to unlock the bootloader that I used the dePixel8 to unlock it, without even checking.
I read that it would work on a Verizon or Google one and did it, without thinking of not being able to tell what version it is in the future.
zipxavier said:
This is going to sound stupid, but I was so excited to unlock the bootloader that I used the dePixel8 to unlock it, without even checking.
I read that it would work on a Verizon or Google one and did it, without thinking of not being able to tell what version it is in the future.
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If you're unlocked, thank your lucky stars and fuggedaboutit!
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Check you're Cid. Vzw is vzw001 I believe.
anyone figured this out?
At the bottom back of phone is a model number. You need a magnifying glass to see it. Somewhere on this forum is the key to the different model numbers. I saw it a couple days ago but don't remember where.
Edit: Go here https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
Mine is 2PW2100 and I'm on Fi SIM but it supports Verizon too. Mine is an RMA replacement of a bad Google Nexus 6p.
lovemachine35 said:
At the bottom back of phone is a model number. You need a magnifying glass to see it. Somewhere on this forum is the key to the different model numbers. I saw it a couple days ago but don't remember where.
Edit: Go here https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
Mine is 2PW2100 and I'm on Fi SIM but it supports Verizon too. Mine is an RMA replacement of a bad Google Nexus 6p.
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My Google model number shows up in Settings>System>About phone>Regulatory labels as a G-2PW2100.
lovemachine35 said:
At the bottom back of phone is a model number. You need a magnifying glass to see it. Somewhere on this forum is the key to the different model numbers. I saw it a couple days ago but don't remember where.
Edit: Go here https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
Mine is 2PW2100 and I'm on Fi SIM but it supports Verizon too. Mine is an RMA replacement of a bad Google Nexus 6p.
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The verizon and google version have the same model number. That is probably why OP is asking how to tell the difference.
EDIT: you can tell by using the following command after enabling usb debugging in developer options.
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adb shell getprop ro.boot.cid
Verizon will return something like VZW__001
and Google will return all 1's like 11111111
What if its all 0s ?
Consider me in the boat as well, a victim of the locked boot loader Verizon model
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/hope-pixel-xl-g-2pw2100-android-8-0-to-t3724789
Inform me if a way was found to unlock its bootloader for customizations.
Thanks.
HyperEscape said:
Consider me in the boat as well, a victim of the locked boot loader Verizon model
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/hope-pixel-xl-g-2pw2100-android-8-0-to-t3724789
Inform me if a way was found to unlock its bootloader for customizations.
Thanks.
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I was pointing this out to a V store manager and when we checked his personal Pixel XL under developer options, the OEM Unlocking option did not even show. It wasn't grayed out, it was hidden. I held my real Pixel XL up next to his and showed the option there. He finally relented and admitted/realized that the Verizon phone is not the same as the pure Google phone. Verizon f's them up. :laugh:
85gallon said:
I was pointing this out to a V store manager and when we checked his personal Pixel XL under developer options, the OEM Unlocking option did not even show. It wasn't grayed out, it was hidden. I held my real Pixel XL up next to his and showed the option there. He finally relented and admitted/realized that the Verizon phone is not the same as the pure Google phone. Verizon f's them up. :laugh:
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Sure I have come to this realization soon enough within almost 20 hours of getting my phone...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74957977&postcount=3
Thanks.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
The verizon and google version have the same model number. That is probably why OP is asking how to tell the difference.
EDIT: you can tell by using the following command after enabling usb debugging in developer options.
Code:
adb shell getprop ro.boot.cid
Verizon will return something like VZW__001
and Google will return all 1's like 11111111
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I there any other way to tell? For example is the VZW model missing certain bands that the Play model supports? Or a different serial number? Im trying to buy a Pixel XL and I dont want to be F*CKED over with the Verizon one and none of the sellers show the settings page with OEM Unlocking. If I cant figure this out Im just going to get a different phone
3mutts said:
The verizon and google version have the same model number. That is probably why OP is asking how to tell the difference.
EDIT: you can tell by using the following command after enabling usb debugging in developer options.
I there any other way to tell? For example is the VZW model missing certain bands that the Play model supports? Or a different serial number? Im trying to buy a Pixel XL and I dont want to be F*CKED over with the Verizon one and none of the sellers show the settings page with OEM Unlocking. If I cant figure this out Im just going to get a different phone
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Turn on Dev options and look to see if the OEM unlock slider is blue or gray. If it's blue it can be unlocked.
That is the only way to be sure. Even the CID check can be wrong, we have seen quite a few phones mislabeled by Google.
TonikJDK said:
Turn on Dev options and look to see if the OEM unlock slider is blue or gray. If it's blue it can be unlocked.
That is the only way to be sure. Even the CID check can be wrong, we have seen quite a few phones mislabeled by Google.
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Well that sucks, the only reason I wanted to make sure is because I dont want to argue with the seller to take it back for an issue they most likely dont understand (that and I dont want to pay return shipping only to end up with another Verizon model). Also the only reason I am even considering replacing my Nexus 6 is the fact it has a 32 bit CPU and the fact Google seems to be itching to get rid of 32 bit support completely
What I did: 1. look for private sellers, not stores or dealers, and avoid refurbs; 2. look for the color on the box being labelled in French as well as English (Verizon versions only show color in English); 3. contact the seller to ask them if they bought it direct from Google (if bought from anywhere other than Google Store or Project Fi it is the Verizon version).

Pixel 2 XL Verizon Bootloader unlockable?

I am getting quite confused about if the Pixel 2 XL for verizon is unlockable and rootable, or if its not?
There are so many thread saying that it is with guides and some that say it is impossible.
Can anyone tell me if its possible? I recently purchased one of these phones via ebay and it was suppose to be google unblocked but its verizon.
So I am wondering if its worth keeping or returning for the unlocked one.
Thanks
js2shanks said:
I am getting quite confused about if the Pixel 2 XL for verizon is unlockable and rootable, or if its not?
There are so many thread saying that it is with guides and some that say it is impossible.
Can anyone tell me if its possible? I recently purchased one of these phones via ebay and it was suppose to be google unblocked but its verizon.
So I am wondering if its worth keeping or returning for the unlocked one.
Thanks
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Go dev options and see if bootloader unlock is greyed out, if so no unlock for you
p70shooter said:
Go dev options and see if bootloader unlock is greyed out, if so no unlock for you
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so the one exploit using abd does not work on it?
it is indeed grayed out
js2shanks said:
so the one exploit using abd does not work on it?
it is indeed grayed out
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No unlocked bootloader for you then.
p70shooter said:
No unlocked bootloader for you then.
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my dreams of leaving the note 8 are crushed=(
thank you for the information
p70shooter said:
No unlocked bootloader for you then.
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You big meanie!! ??????
Badger50 said:
You big meanie!! ??????
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??
js2shanks said:
so the one exploit using abd does not work on it?
it is indeed grayed out
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You could try it for a bit before dumping it. You may find that you can disable the apps you don't
like and customize it enough to not miss root apps. The P2 XL is actually a great phone out of the box.
Great daily user with strong battery.
michaelbsheldon said:
You could try it for a bit before dumping it. You may find that you can disable the apps you don't
like and customize it enough to not miss root apps. The P2 XL is actually a great phone out of the box.
Great daily user with strong battery.
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I really would love to but I want that xposed youtube adaway among other things haha
js2shanks said:
I really would love to but I want that xposed youtube adaway among other things haha
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There is an app called Virtual Xposed on github, which is basically a rootless Xposed module in a virtual enviornment on the phone, which can do that for you.
I am really gonna test that right now on my note.
If that works I love you man
Not going to help you, but I heard some people were able to unlock the bootloader by turning phone on , not inserting SIM card, & oem unlocking wasn't greyed out. Something about the phone connecting to vzw made the oem unlocking greyed out. I'm sure if that was still working would here more about it
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Not going to help you, but I heard some people were able to unlock the bootloader by turning phone on , not inserting SIM card, & oem unlocking wasn't greyed out. Something about the phone connecting to vzw made the oem unlocking greyed out. I'm sure if that was still working would here more about it
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It still works, just only a few people tried it. Lmao
Lol
MColbath said:
It still works, just only a few people tried it. Lmao
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That's not true. It only worked one person's refurb unit. Quit lying or you'll be sued for liable and slander lol what's up man? Sucks that we haven't found a root option
GokuSSJgod said:
That's not true. It only worked one person's refurb unit. Quit lying or you'll be sued for liable and slander lol what's up man? Sucks that we haven't found a root option
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Before the first boot the device doesn't have any configuration from Verizon. The only difference between the Google and Verizon model is that there is a pre-installed sim card in it. So, if you were to take the sim card out it wouldn't be recognized as a verizon phone and thus you would be able to unlock the bootloader. The only reason so few people get to unlock the bootloader is because the employee at Verizon turns the phone on in the store and activate it registering the device with Verizon.
MColbath said:
Before the first boot the device doesn't have any configuration from Verizon. The only difference between the Google and Verizon model is that there is a pre-installed sim card in it. So, if you were to take the sim card out it wouldn't be recognized as a verizon phone and thus you would be able to unlock the bootloader. The only reason so few people get to unlock the bootloader is because the employee at Verizon turns the phone on in the store and activate it registering the device with Verizon.
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If that were true the Google phones would lock if they were first started with a VZ SIM in it. Mine didn't, nor did anyone else's.
TonikJDK said:
If that were true the Google phones would lock if they were first started with a VZ SIM in it. Mine didn't, nor did anyone else's.
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Well, I might be wrong because I don't know exactly how the activation process goes but it mostly has to do with imei being registered with Verizon. Which doesn't happen when you buy them directly from Google. I mean they both have the same model number and the software version you have when you get the phone has nothing to do with the oem lock being greyed out. Actually, it might also be the serial for a pre-installed sim card has a different activation process then one that isn't, although that is unlikely.
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Well, I might be wrong because I don't know exactly how the activation process goes but it mostly has to do with imei being registered with Verizon. Which doesn't happen when you buy them directly from Google. I mean they both have the same model number and the software version you have when you get the phone has nothing to do with the oem lock being greyed out. Actually, it might also be the serial for a pre-installed sim card has a different activation process then one that isn't, although that is unlikely.
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Other way around.All the phones are registered with Google. They all ship locked. The phone on first boot contacts Google to see if it has permission to unlock, if it is a Google phone it gets permission. If it is a VZ phone it doesn't. It has nothing to do with what SIM is in it. The few VZ phones that do unlock are because Google messed up and entered it as a Google phone.
We have seen and captured the packets as they go to the Google server, it is very clear what is happening.
No offense, but a lot of us have known this for a long time. Since early on in the OG Pixel days. We have explained it time and time again. When we do we get grief for it, which I will get any second now by someone that just got a mislabeld Verizon phone and it unlocked for them. They have no idea how but now they are an expert.
That's why no one is really trying to unlock the phone or help. Nothing but grief if you do. Same reason many of the ROM developers have left xda.
TonikJDK said:
If that were true the Google phones would lock if they were first started with a VZ SIM in it. Mine didn't, nor did anyone else's.
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Yeah, I pulled my VZW sim from my 6P and dropped it in the 2 XL prior to first boot and I'm still unlocked and never got any of the VZW crap for the two weeks I remained 100% stock.
So I'm thinking that theory can't be reverse engineered...

Verizon Google pixel xl 2

Is this device's bootlooder come unlocked? If not c a.z n it be unlocked?
GDane1 said:
Is this device's bootlooder come unlocked? If not c a.z n it be unlocked?
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At the moment, Verizon bootloaders are locked and at the moment can't be unlocked
They are replacing phones with unlocked versions through verizon warranty replacement, hope this helps if you have any issues with your current device.
Thank you very much for your response to my question take care
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Chance Ill said:
At the moment, Verizon bootloaders are locked and at the moment can't be unlocked
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I have a Verizon pixel 2 xl and I unlocked the bootloader
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
How did you manage that?
Intelli69 said:
I have a Verizon pixel 2 xl and I unlocked the bootloader
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SigLover21 said:
How did you manage that?
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Likely that he got lucky and received a replacement that was able to be unlocked because google/verizon messed up. It's actually happened a few times with other members.
Badger50 said:
Likely that he got lucky and received a replacement that was able to be unlocked because google/verizon messed up. It's actually happened a few times with other members.
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I bought my VZW Pixel 2 XL from Best Buy.
OEM Unlock
Badger50 said:
Likely that he got lucky and received a replacement that was able to be unlocked because google/verizon messed up. It's actually happened a few times with other members.
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So, I got a Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL with 8.1.0 & Android 9 waiting to download. The OEM unlocking, under developer options is greyed out. So, this phone has no hope for unlocked bootloader?
Any ideas.....
Thanks,
zach
coolbeans2016 said:
So, I got a Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL with 8.1.0 & Android 9 waiting to download. The OEM unlocking, under developer options is greyed out. So, this phone has no hope for unlocked bootloader?
Any ideas.....
Thanks,
zach
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Exchange it for a google version. Other than that, I'm afraid there is no current, reliable, bootloader unlocking method for the verizon variant device.
thanks
Badger50 said:
Exchange it for a google version. Other than that, I'm afraid there is no current, reliable, bootloader unlocking method for the verizon variant device.
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Thanks, you are the 1st reply out of 5 peeps I've questioned about this.... on hour 3 & this learning curve is more like a roller coaster!!!
Last ?.... how does one go about exchanging? Do I contact Google directly? & if so..... Google store?
Sorry for the 2nd bother, just have no other options except list it as 4 parts on ebay.....
zach
been all over Google's Store site, & Verizon's.... I know I've read where people HAVE unlocked this bootloader, one through someone that charges kind of like Sunshine did/does for HTC devices.....
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coolbeans2016 said:
Thanks, you are the 1st reply out of 5 peeps I've questioned about this.... on hour 3 & this learning curve is more like a roller coaster!!!
Last ?.... how does one go about exchanging? Do I contact Google directly? & if so..... Google store?
Sorry for the 2nd bother, just have no other options except list it as 4 parts on ebay.....
zach
been all over Google's Store site, & Verizon's.... I know I've read where people HAVE unlocked this bootloader, one through someone that charges kind of like Sunshine did/does for HTC devices.....
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If you purchased it from eBay, then your in a pickle. I have no idea what their policy is, or if the seller would even consider it. As far as bootloader unlocking it, I'm sure there are some folks that can/will do it for a fee, however, as the saying goes....buyer beware :fingers-crossed:
If "OEM unlocking" is greyed out, that means the bootloader is locked and cannot be unlocked. There is no way to hack a P2XL with locked BL to make it unlockable.
If you bought the P2XL directly from Google Store and you requested the "unlocked" version, then Google sent you the wrong one. Send it back and get the one you purchased.
If you bought it from Verizon store or Best Buy, those devices are *always* bootloader locked (buying directly from Google is the only way to get one with unlockable BL). You could return it but you will pay a restocking fee.
If you bought from an individual, you can try to get your money back. But it will be up to the seller to take it back.
UR Right
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If you purchased it from eBay, then your in a pickle. I have no idea what their policy is, or if the seller would even consider it. As far as bootloader unlocking it, I'm sure there are some folks that can/will do it for a fee, however, as the saying goes....buyer beware :fingers-crossed:
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Your right on that.....!!! Just had my dad throw it up on his Ebay account for a bill $100.... Shame, even the Google Assistant is "OFF THE CHAIN"!!! Never saw what it's like on a Google phone before! I know now it IS the phone I want, & the Pixel 2 XL has dropped dramatically in price. Just make sure NEVER get a Verizon phone!!! If it wasn't for the "SHEEPLE", no way Verizon would last in a free market economy, with the way they cram restrictions down their customers throats....... js smh
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