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Yeah, got a major issue: My Defy+ is overheating and I usually end up with a blocked phone, which ends up being useless for about 4-5 hours. And it's becoming more often.
I have 2.3.4 on it, but I seriously doubt 2.3.6 solves this issue.
Any tips?
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Try custom ROM's and DO NOT flash 2.3.6 full sbf as it's quite buggy and you'll be stuck with it.
You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?
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You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?
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How could I do that?
Also, I get it for no reason whatsoever. It gets overheated and that's it. I left it to cool about 4 God damn hours, and yet when I open it it works a bit, then it gets stuck. It's as if the memory isn't well processed.
To give ya an example, I left it over night and even charged it. Everything went fine.Then, got to school, got a break, wanted to listen to a song. Fine, listened to a song. A guy wanted to waste some time on Opera Mini with his Ikariam game. Fine, let him waste that 1 tab and browse online.
But then, when he gave it to me it was stuck.
Wait a lot of time to stop it via Android's button, did it eventually. Left it to cool 2 hours, tried again. Again, after less than 3 minutes of usage (wanted to share a file via bluetooth, but got to the folder only) it got stuck again. This time it was pointless, 30 minutes later I wasn't able to stop it so I took the battery off.
I kinda don't know if I should change it or still have faith in it.
Right now stuff seems worse. Sometimes it reboots itself, but that doesn't help with anything IMO.
BTW, would the 1% battery patch help? Might put that 720p functionality in there as well.
As Auris said, try flashing a custom ROM (CM7.2 is a good choice, stable and fast enough). For undervolting (if you are on a stock ROM only - because CM7 has a built-in CPU manager, accessible from the bootmenu) ), install SetVsel from the Play Store. Like PC overclocking/undervolting, be careful about the values you choose. You'll find a thread in the General section about SetVsel values.
If these ideas don't help you solve your problem, I think it might be hardware related.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9
My defy+ gets really hot on just about everything except stock! Undervolting didn't help, nor underclocking. Putting it in the fridge temporarily helped, but when I started using it again the temp climbed again!
What should I do? :-/
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Well, since you flashed custom ROMs (unlike the OP), how about the baseband? I remember that when I flashed CM7 for the first time I didn't get 3G signal and the phone was overheating because the signal was too poor for the baseband that I used. Switched between a few and finally managed to get one with good signal and 2G/3G/3.5G working fine.
I never use 3G, so I've never bothered changing it. By the way... what are the differences between basebands with the same frequencies?
Could flashing a different kernel solve it?
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Well, there are different regions - I don't know the technical details, but maybe some basebands work better with certain network operators. It's a trial&error method, you could choose one that works better or one that performs worse.
Regarding the kernel: I have no idea about the heat dissipation, but from what I've read there is a GB kernel that supposedly has better battery life. Ask Auris, he uses it (it's the kernel by walter79).
Okay, seems the issue solved itself, since now it works perfectly :|
I didn't play a game, which was kinda retarded: low quality, a simple Android game, and playing Temple Run/Angry Birds/ Angry Birds Space didn't give you me any issue.
I don't get it.
I've been trying to figure this out for months and have had no luck so I wanted to see if any of you had any recommendations.
I used to run Sense roms like the stock one and the sense 2.1 mctwist rom and they had no issues.
When CM9 came out, I decided to switch over to that. It functioned fine except I would get random reboots about 1-2 times each day. Tried clean installs, etc but nothing work.
Then CM10 came out and I upgraded. Once again, it works excellent except I still get random reboots once or twice a day.
And just recently I tried the AOKP Jelly Bean ROM, hoping it was a CM issue, but I also got the random reboots on AOKP.
What could be causing this? Occasionally I can go through the day without a reboot, but 9 out of 10 times, I get at least one reboot each day. Sometimes it happens while it's in my pocket and I don't even notice for a few hours.
These reboots are basically the phone starts showing the boot animation, but with a very dim screen and it just stays stuck with the spinning boot animation. It won't reboot until I pull the battery or do the 3 button reset.
Any advice? Should I try a different radio or...? I don't even know. I love JB so much so I'd hate to have to go back to a sense rom, but I can't take these reboots anymore.
Thanks
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I've been trying to figure this out for months and have had no luck so I wanted to see if any of you had any recommendations.
I used to run Sense roms like the stock one and the sense 2.1 mctwist rom and they had no issues.
When CM9 came out, I decided to switch over to that. It functioned fine except I would get random reboots about 1-2 times each day. Tried clean installs, etc but nothing work.
Then CM10 came out and I upgraded. Once again, it works excellent except I still get random reboots once or twice a day.
And just recently I tried the AOKP Jelly Bean ROM, hoping it was a CM issue, but I also got the random reboots on AOKP.
What could be causing this? Occasionally I can go through the day without a reboot, but 9 out of 10 times, I get at least one reboot each day. Sometimes it happens while it's in my pocket and I don't even notice for a few hours.
These reboots are basically the phone starts showing the boot animation, but with a very dim screen and it just stays stuck with the spinning boot animation. It won't reboot until I pull the battery or do the 3 button reset.
Any advice? Should I try a different radio or...? I don't even know. I love JB so much so I'd hate to have to go back to a sense rom, but I can't take these reboots anymore.
Thanks
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It could be an app causing it, or overheating. Do you over/under clock/volt? You may want to try underclocking a little, or raising the voltage a little. You may also want to check the system and kernel logs to see if they reveal the issue.
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It could be an app causing it, or overheating. Do you over/under clock/volt? You may want to try underclocking a little, or raising the voltage a little. You may also want to check the system and kernel logs to see if they reveal the issue.
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I used to overclock on my sense roms with no issue. But on CM10 I just have it set to stock speeds with no overclocking or adjusting the voltage. Could my phone be getting old and so even stock speed is causing overheating? My phone doesn't feel noticeably hot, unless it gets stuck in one of these reboots. Then it feels rather warm. What would you recommend I change my voltage to?
And I tried doing logs but they get wiped when I restart
EDIT: Odd thing I just discovered. I borrowed my friend's seido extended battery for the dinc and popped it in my phone. After charging it up for a bit, I used the phone and within 10 minutes it started acting weird and rebooted. And after restarting, it rebooted again a few minutes later. So basically it was even worse. Any correlation here? Does the extended battery = more heat = that's why my phone is rebooting?
It's hard to even guess unless you can get a log. If you give one of the stock based ROMs another trial for a few days, and the phone does not reboot, then it is safe to say it is not hardware. I'd start by at least ruling out the hardware possibility.
Do not use Titanium or some other app to restore any sort of data from one ROM to another. That often seems to cause a lot of people problems.
If your phone isn't that hot, I agree that heat isn't likely the problem. Mine absolutely roasts while navigating (while charging, screen on, gps and 3g antennas on, music playing, overclocked, weak original stock battery, otterbox case so it can't breathe, etc.) and it doesn't ever reboot from heat.
Everyone uses their phones differently. So what may be stable for one person might not be for others. I've come to the conclusion that there is only one person who can determine if a ROM is stable... that is the one person who uses it everyday. Just because some other people are using a ROM and getting good results, it doesn't mean that you ever will (even with you wiping/flashing/installing apps by the book).
CM9, CM10, or any and all ICS and JB roms are going to have things that aren't working right for some time still. It's just the nature of the beast. App compatibility, especially, is just one of those things. It's a testament to how good those awesome devs are that anything works on our Dinc running JB and ICS.
I never ran the ICS and JB ports for long (in fact only very short periods of time) because my problems far outweighed the benefits. There is no shame in GB working better for you. I run a variant of CM7 (which is gingerbread)... it is definitely different than stock-sense. Then I use alternate launchers (Go launcher is my favorite) to change it up even more. You can do so much customization that isn't dependent on the ROM. Then I can use something like ROM TOOLBOX PRO for even more customization.
Software is not fashion. What actually works never goes out of style (despite what the hipster kids on xda might be saying ...get off my lawn... grumble...)
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I used to overclock on my sense roms with no issue. But on CM10 I just have it set to stock speeds with no overclocking or adjusting the voltage. Could my phone be getting old and so even stock speed is causing overheating? My phone doesn't feel noticeably hot, unless it gets stuck in one of these reboots. Then it feels rather warm. What would you recommend I change my voltage to?
And I tried doing logs but they get wiped when I restart
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I would use incredicontrol and raise all max voltages by 25 or one push of the plus button. Sometimes as phones get older the processors get worn , and have issues with not enough power or even with the stock max frequencie of 998mhz. If raising the max voltage dosent help, i would underclock down from max 998.
Thank you both for the replies. I really appreciate it. I'll try overvolting and see how it goes tomorrow. If I still get reboots, I'll try running a stock rom for a few days and see how it performs.
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Thank you both for the replies. I really appreciate it. I'll try overvolting and see how it goes tomorrow. If I still get reboots, I'll try running a stock rom for a few days and see how it performs.
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Pardon me harping on my pet issue, but my phone does that if I underclock the CPU minimum to 128MHz. If I leave it at 245 I can go for days on end (I've seen uptimes of over 200 hours). For whatever that's worth...
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Pardon me harping on my pet issue, but my phone does that if I underclock the CPU minimum to 128MHz. If I leave it at 245 I can go for days on end (I've seen uptimes of over 200 hours). For whatever that's worth...
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That is true, if i go down to 128 i have screen on freezing issues, and random reboots.
EDIT: Odd thing I just discovered. I borrowed my friend's seido extended battery for the dinc and popped it in my phone. After charging it up for a bit, I used the phone and within 10 minutes it started acting weird and rebooted. And after restarting, it rebooted again a few minutes later. So basically it was even worse. Any correlation here? Does the extended battery = more heat = that's why my phone is rebooting?
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This is certainly a clue... but I don't know what it means...
I would not think the the extended battery would produce more heat. Since both batteries should be discharging at the same rates the heat output should be the same (just that the bigger one would take longer since it has more reserve). I've ran across stories of people who had phones that went completely wonky when they tried swapping batteries or getting a new one. I really don't know anything about it, I'm still on my stock battery.
It certainly couldn't hurt to try wiping your battery stats in clockwork. There is apparently some magic methodology to do it "correctly". I don't know about that either... here is a thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359395
Well just as an update, I tried the overvolting and clearing the battery stats but still got the reboots. I installed one of the Stock Sense ROMs and it's been running great with no reboots. Apparently my phone just doesn't like non-Sense ROMs for some reason. Oh well. At least I have a working phone. Pretty amazing how fast the stock rom runs!
Well, I guess it's good to hear the hardware is ok.
You still could try out the CM10s (or other JB roms) by starting off without installing your apps (if you can live without them). App compatibility might be your problem. Let it run for a while with no additional apps added. Then, add them back slowly (one or two a day or every couple of days) from the market only. If the reboots start up later on... you will probably recognize the one that is the source of trouble.
Of course you still have plenty of options in the gingerbread family to choose from. If you've never tried out some GB AOSP/CM roms, that would be worth a try. You've got stock roms, stock roms with sense removed, and the whole variety of AOSP/CM7 (official and unofficial) to choose from. Launchers...themes... mods... etc... all kinds of ways to change from whatever you start with. The only GB roms that I ever had problems with were the official "stable" CM7.0 and CM7.1 ROMs. I've been running one unofficial CM7 build (about 99.99% of the time...except to test drive newer stuff) for almost a year. Its been the best thing that's ever happened to my phone.
I just got my Samsung Galaxy s6 edge white 32gb last night and I noticed that is over heating than it should be. I'm using it for Web browser and texting nothing that should cause to heat up. I also updated to the latest version.
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I just got my Samsung Galaxy s6 edge white 32gb last night and I noticed that is over heating than it should be. I'm using it for Web browser and texting nothing that should cause to heat up. I also updated to the latest version.
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Actually if it was overheating then the phone would automatically shut down to prevent damage, but yes the phone does get hot rather quickly. But I've had glass and aluminum phones before and they always get hot fast since metal retains heat.
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
yes it does get hot once in every 3-4 days & when I say it means really hot..
s6 edge overheating
How can we fix this overheating issue?
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How can we fix this overheating issue?
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Have you tried Smart Switch as mentioned two posts up?
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Have you tried Smart Switch as mentioned two posts up?
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Smart switch is not working for everyone. Hit or a miss thing.
My phone heats up to 44 C
What is the Warning Level is it safe till 45 or 50 Celsius ?
It happens when
1) On use of Google Maps while driving
2) Charging
3) When i use Sandisk OTG, to the extent that it stop the Transfer & freezes
4) Even if i Record Videos sometimes
5) While wireless charging
This is really bad Never had such a Issue
I agree with some of the sentiments here that the device can seemingly get pretty warm - especially when I tweaking things or using apps that use a lot of CPU or using the camera for too long. But I do believe a lot of it is related to the aluminum/glass case - I believe Samsung is basically taking advantage of the case as a though it were a heatsink - releasing all the heat into your hand/pocket/air.
This is truly the first phone i've had that manages to stay under 100° F even when cpu frequency is locked to the maximum and I'm playing very gpu-intensive games, provided that i'm not charging the battery and the phone is not in an unusually warm environmnt like a hot car. I should mention that i'm rooted and lots of preloaded software has been removed. I would download some sort of process monitor and check it to see if there's a misbehaving app to blame if this is happening regularly.
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Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
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Hey,
I saw that you posted a solution when someone had problems with his S6 edge overheating. I've an S6 and I think I might have the same problem.
I was wondering if you could spare some time to help me. I posted my problem here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/help-s6-cpu-getting-hot-t3180011
I used Antatu benchmark and CPU temperature to test my phone and it got to 84.0 C twice, once when it was testing my CPU to it's fullest and once when it was testing game performance.
So I was wondering if you could run the test as well and tell me what temperature you got so I can compare. Thanks
I haven't tried your method yet but I will tomorrow.
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Hey,
I saw that you posted a solution when someone had problems with his S6 edge overheating. I've an S6 and I think I might have the same problem.
I was wondering if you could spare some time to help me. I posted my problem here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/help-s6-cpu-getting-hot-t3180011
I used Antatu benchmark and CPU temperature to test my phone and it got to 84.0 C twice, once when it was testing my CPU to it's fullest and once when it was testing game performance.
So I was wondering if you could run the test as well and tell me what temperature you got so I can compare. Thanks
I haven't tried your method yet but I will tomorrow.
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For the record, mine just hit 85C while running AnTuTu. As far as daily use, it made a world of difference on my phone when I flashed the stock firmware the first time. The phone was terribly hot in my pocket when I was not doing anything, and it was SUPER laggy when I was. Not something I expected from this phone. After the flash, it was a Beast and ran MUCH cooler. It would get warm still when doing intensive tasks, but that would be expected from an Octa-core phone in my opinion. It does not get uncomfortably hot anymore, like it used to though. I would imagine it went WAY above 85C when it got hot before, because it was actually hard to hold at times.
If you have not flashed it since new, I would highly recommend it. I know it's a pain, but it's a one time thing that you never have to do again, and the benefit MIGHT be large. No guarantees, as you may not have the same issue, but I've received a lot of reports from people who have done it and they say it breathed new life into their phones. For me personally, it was DEFINITELY not a placebo affect. It was night and day.
With all that said, I've got my S6 Edge up for sale right now as I've moved to Apple for a little while. I continually jump around, and T-Mobile offered the iPhone 6 for $15/mo and I can trade it in 3 times in the next 18 months for free and keep paying $15/mo for the newest phone. I'm looking forward to seeing the difference in the iPhone 6s. If it sucks, I'll be trading it in shortly for another Android phone.
PS: AnTuTu final score: 69314!!!! Wow!!!
One more thing. To eliminate ALL lag and slowdown, I replaced the Samsung Launcher with the Google Launcher. What a difference that alone makes! Seriously, try that one thing. It's huge. The Samsung Launcher has some issue somewhere that they still need to address.
SuperSport said:
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
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I did not buy my S6 edge on contract with any service provider. I have all the same problems though. Will this solution work for me?
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I did not buy my S6 edge on contract with any service provider. I have all the same problems though. Will this solution work for me?
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It should. As long as Smart Switch can recognize your phone model and download the Correct Firmware, the Flash WILL help the Heating and Lagging problem. If your phone is not recognized, then Smart Switch will not do anything. It's worth a try.
For me it happens especially when im playing arround with that samsung theme store build in app. I don't know why that app needs so much power to have that effect on the phone but for sure its something samsung needs to look at.
For sure they need to re-design that app from the scratch. Its like the "my first homepage" of theme apps.
I've made a account for this post and sorry if I posted this in a wrong section,
I have a gnex running 6.0.1 android, and its only able to get to 1.65ghz.. But thing is my goal for this phone is to make it feel more faster and more "up to date" with the other phones out there.
I am wanting to use another kernel for over clocking, but I don't know if I have to switch ROMs as this kernel that supports 2.0ghz.. But it was released back in 2013.. GlaDOS kernel is the name of it supposedly.
Can I still use that kernel? And what other stuff can I do to the phone aswell? The phone works fine except it keeps crashing on my or freezing then reboots it self, then I have to take the battery out and back in to have it start up again. Also when ever I turn WiFi on on there it lags my phone like crazy, and drains my battery under 20-30mins I have no charge left.
Anyone have any suggestions or tips? Thanks!
And when it does work fine the temperature CPU, reach well over 70c.. great hand warmer in Canadian winters
I just want the 2.0ghz or anything higher than 1.6 as I need the performance. I can't stand having the phone lagg every day I use it.
I'm on Android 13 and was hoping this would sort out the overheating problem I had with Android 12 (I read in a few places that it would), but it did not. The phone gets very warm when charging, and hot when streaming video, and just generally through simple use, nothing particularly demanding. I haven't rooted this phone because I did not see the need, but I would consider it if it was the only way to fix the problem. Is anyone experiencing the same, and does anyone have a solution?
I could be wrong but generally speaking in my experience, going from one major upgrade to another the phone works a bit harder to re-train itself to your use patterns. I just did my upgrade yesterday and experienced some slight to moderate heat as well. I also noticed that battery is draining a bit faster which I think again is part of the process. I'm going to give it a week or so and if I'm right it should improve.
I'm biased because I've had my Pixel 6 Pro rooted (and updated every month) since last November, and I also use Kirisakura custom kernel with its companion apps and currently have the one app set to the maximum battery savings.
So I can't really compare to 100% stock unrooted with the stock kernel, as I'm only briefly on the stock unrooted kernel each month after I manually flash the latest update.
Several others have commented, and I've experienced too, that with Android 13, we've no longer experienced as severe higher temperatures when charging. I don't remember if the others were rooted and using the same custom kernel, or if these were general Android 13 comments, so your mileage may vary. Sorry I can't give you any more concrete information.
Good luck!
Granted this is for my 4a5g but I wouln't be suprised if/when I get a 6 that its battery performance would be less than stellar after a good days use of phone and/or screen and radio/network. i.e. stock. Before I went to Lineage on my 4a5g I think my battery would cut a good 30-50+ percent each day. I put lineage on it and I poop you not, can go from a 75% to around 20% in about 5-6+ days. I tend to have my screen brightness around a little less than 1/4th on the slider bar.
When I had an HTC M8, after around 2 or so years (this was around 2016/7 or so. got phone oct '14) on the stock firmware the phone couln't keep it on for more than a day. Ran ViperRom for a bit then switched to cm/lineage and that stretched my usability of the phone another 5 years. It got to the point where the phone would shut off when it got to around %50 charge and go ding dong and turn off--without pluggin it in I had about 8 hours run time on it. My battery was beyond gone and no way would I have gotten that usability on the stock rom.
So, to answer your question, yes, trying different roms and kernels (rooting) could be to your advantage to prolong the life and performance of your phone.
Even if you choose to run the stock OS, with root, you could disble any bloat running in background. Kill any programs/services leeching CPU (and hence battery) cycles. You could definately make it run more efficient for YOU. Maybe not for the next guy who needs his facebook, twitter, ticktok apis and stuff loaded and at the ready. Everyone is different. But they tend to make the phones (they think) for everyone. in mind and as a result, device performance and lifespan become affected.
I definitely have heating issues and this is on a warranty exchange. The 2 previous P6Ps had all the same issues as this current device.
My phone was hot on A12 (41/45°) and since i clean flashed A13 and wiped it is cold (32/35°) for the same usage.
Greetings.
Good topic.
I have bought this phone a day before. I'm facing device heating even under simple tasks like scrolling messengers, browsing etc.
Previously I had OnePlus 7 Pro (Snapdragon 855), that one was cold all time except while charging or playing games.
However, Pixel looks warm or even hot even upon light using.
I'm a bit confused about that.
Is it a common problem of this device? Or probably exactly my device is affected?
I haven't faced overheating or alerts about that, however, it feels hot for my hands that got used to feel a cold phone while low load.
Currently, I have about 37-38 degrees while browsing on XDA and writing this post.
Just wondering that digits you have?
I did a warranty exchange on my P6P for a different issue and I'm glad I did. My replacement device has much better thermals than my original. My original one would get quite hot while charging and restoring apps and was almost uncomfortable to hold and to the touch. Could always try a warranty exchange and see if the replacement device is better for you. Also, Kiri kernel has been reported to help with the thermals. I've seen several reports of users commenting that their device runs cooler. Good luck!
I had heating issues and battery issues when I first received my P6P. Once I got it out of the box, I set it up and restored backups, rooted it, updated to android 13 without wiping, rooted again, and then flashed the Kirisakura kernel. I decided to try and flash android 13 again but keeping the -w flag to wipe userdata and didnt restore my backups and I've had amazing battery life and no overheating. If you haven't yet, try doing a factory reset. As simple as it sounds it may very well help
My fully stock P6P (on A12) gave an overheat warning yesterday while we were having a day out, it was only 22°C although we were in and out of the sun as the clouds rolled by but the phone was showing 46°C after being sat in my pocket.
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
MrBelter said:
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Thing is I have never experienced overheating on any phone (that i have owned) in UK before, using an Exynos as the basis of Tensor and then whacking an extra big core in it was a pretty bad idea unless you live in a fridge.