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I am trying to decide whether to buy a Archos 80 G9 or not ?

I am trying to decide whether I should buy an Archos 80 G9 ( with 16 gb) , or the Nexus 7 .
I heard there are touch screen issues with A80G9 , and also reports of frequent applications crashing/freezing. Have those issues been resolved with software updates from Archos ( or a custom rom ) ? Are A80G9 flimsy so that users can damage them even under normal usage ?
To me the selling point of the A80G9 is its size and the 3G via usb option.
Do A80G9 comes with the 3g USB dongle (that accept a SIM card) ?

xyzdan said:
I am trying to decide whether I should buy an Archos 80 G9 ( with 16 gb) , or the Nexus 7 .
I heard there are touch screen issues with A80G9 , and also reports of frequent applications crashing/freezing. Have those issues been resolved with software updates from Archos ( or a custom rom ) ? Are A80G9 flimsy so that users can damage them even under normal usage ?
To me the selling point of the A80G9 is its size and the 3G via usb option.
Do A80G9 comes with the 3g USB dongle (that accept a SIM card) ?
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I have an 101G9, generally satisfied with it, especially after installing CM9 on it. AFAIK 3G usb sticks are sold separately, Archos ones (natively supported by the G9 on stock ROMs) go for about 50 euro i guess, but trevd has managed to get full support for other 3G sticks (mostly Huawei ones if i'm not mistaken, could be others too) in CM9. So if you have one laying around, it'd be worth it i guess.
Otherwise, a Google tablet, quad core, 1 GB ram, with full support by Google, for 200-250 USD/EUR? Hard to beat, if it was available before i got the G9, i'd have gone the Nexus route. Besides, you can always tether the tablet to your phone.
Oh, and about the touchscreen: since i installed CM9 i didn't notice any such problems. Occasionally when the tablet wakes up it takes a while to register touches, but it goes away and is only present on the lockscreen. I've read that this is caused by the lockscreen and that by disabling the locksreen it doesn't happen, but i haven't tried it yet. On Archos ROMs i had "ghost" touches, regardless if the ROM was stock Archos or one of the excellent ones by Surdu_Petru. Touchscreen calibration/reboot fixed those. Apparently Surdu_Petru also succeeded to fix this in his latest ROMs.

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omegaRED7 said:
I have an 101G9, generally satisfied with it, especially after installing CM9 on it. AFAIK 3G usb sticks are sold separately, Archos ones (natively supported by the G9 on stock ROMs) go for about 50 euro i guess, but trevd has managed to get full support for other 3G sticks (mostly Huawei ones if i'm not mistaken, could be others too) in CM9. So if you have one laying around, it'd be worth it i guess.
Otherwise, a Google tablet, quad core, 1 GB ram, with full support by Google, for 200-250 USD/EUR? Hard to beat, if it was available before i got the G9, i'd have gone the Nexus route. Besides, you can always tether the tablet to your phone.
Oh, and about the touchscreen: since i installed CM9 i didn't notice any such problems. Occasionally when the tablet wakes up it takes a while to register touches, but it goes away and is only present on the lockscreen. I've read that this is caused by the lockscreen and that by disabling the locksreen it doesn't happen, but i haven't tried it yet. On Archos ROMs i had "ghost" touches, regardless if the ROM was stock Archos or one of the excellent ones by Surdu_Petru. Touchscreen calibration/reboot fixed those. Apparently Surdu_Petru also succeeded to fix this in his latest ROMs.
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How to install CM9 ? I went to cyanogenmod website but archos G9 products are not listed on their devices section.
Where can I find surdu_petru download and instruction ?
I am under the impression that none of the tablets can survive a 1 meter fall. I had a HP touchpad and someone drop it on the carpet. The case cracked and the speakers are not working. Do you think the g9 can be dressed up to absorb a 1 meter fall.
I am considering A80G9 which has a smaller screen than the 101, but bigger than 7" devices.

I have had both and prefer nexus 7. However I had no use for the 3g stick (they don't work on american carriers)
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xyzdan said:
How to install CM9 ? I went to cyanogenmod website but archos G9 products are not listed on their devices section.
Where can I find surdu_petru download and instruction ?
I am under the impression that none of the tablets can survive a 1 meter fall. I had a HP touchpad and someone drop it on the carpet. The case cracked and the speakers are not working. Do you think the g9 can be dressed up to absorb a 1 meter fall.
I am considering A80G9 which has a smaller screen than the 101, but bigger than 7" devices.
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I have no idea if they'd survive a 1 meter fall. It depends on your luck i guess. You'll forgive me for not testing that in practice
About CM9: The G9 isn't officially supported/mentioned on the CyanogenMod website. JackpotClavin made a fully working CM9, you can look here:
Anybody interested in testing a CM9 super-alpha build in a week or so?
All of Surdu_petru's ROMs ([email protected], Root only, Overclock Edition, Root deodex & busybox...) are in the Gen9 development section, have a look.
All ROMs require you to enable SDE (Special Developer Edition) on the Archos, see here how to do it: [TUT] How to Install Official SDE menu and rooted firmware (updated 15 June 2012)

omegaRED7 said:
I have no idea if they'd survive a 1 meter fall. It depends on your luck i guess. You'll forgive me for not testing that in practice
About CM9: The G9 isn't officially supported/mentioned on the CyanogenMod website. JackpotClavin made a fully working CM9, you can look here:
Anybody interested in testing a CM9 super-alpha build in a week or so?
All of Surdu_petru's ROMs ([email protected], Root only, Overclock Edition, Root deodex & busybox...) are in the Gen9 development section, have a look.
All ROMs require you to enable SDE (Special Developer Edition) on the Archos, see here how to do it: [TUT] How to Install Official SDE menu and rooted firmware (updated 15 June 2012)
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The 80g9 is tough. I bought two. One for me one for my 5 yo son who has autism. His has been dropped, bumped, made its way down a flight of hardwood stairs and just snap it back together and away we go. I'm very surprised as the tablet feels cheap. Ha ha. I'm going to get a tuff-luv silicone case for them for an added bit of protection.
I don't have a nexus. I cannot comment on its build. I know one thing, no expandable storage, is a big no no in my book. I use SD on my tablet all the time.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using xda app-developers app

steve adams said:
The 80g9 is tough. I bought two. One for me one for my 5 yo son who has autism. His has been dropped, bumped, made its way down a flight of hardwood stairs and just snap it back together and away we go. I'm very surprised as the tablet feels cheap. Ha ha. I'm going to get a tuff-luv silicone case for them for an added bit of protection.
I don't have a nexus. I cannot comment on its build. I know one thing, no expandable storage, is a big no no in my book. I use SD on my tablet all the time.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using xda app-developers app
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Yeah, the non-expandable storage could be a deal breaker for some. I don't need really need more than 8/16 GB, but it depends on what you do with it, i guess. I mostly use it for surfing and movies/music, but at home i just stream everything from my main computer.
It's a nice to hear the Archos tabs are durable and can withstand some abuse

Hah, actually my problem with the G9...it broke after a 3 foot (almost a meter) drop on carpet. Granted, it was charging, and the dc jack snapped right off the motherboard. These things are cheaply soldered on. I did drop my nexus 7 on accident from aroud 6 feet, and it survived, not a scratch on it, but it was not charging.

Shano56 said:
Hah, actually my problem with the G9...it broke after a 3 foot (almost a meter) drop on carpet. Granted, it was charging, and the dc jack snapped right off the motherboard. These things are cheaply soldered on. I did drop my nexus 7 on accident from aroud 6 feet, and it survived, not a scratch on it, but it was not charging.
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Do the same thing with an iPad and see what happens. No matter what you have a fall on the plugged in charging cable can do damage. Not an Archie defect.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using xda app-developers app

steve adams said:
Do the same thing with an iPad and see what happens. No matter what you have a fall on the plugged in charging cable can do damage. Not an Archie defect.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using xda app-developers app
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Yes but look at the teardown by scholbert, you will see these dc jacks are cheaply soldered onto the motherboard, they break very easy even when not dropped, they have failed on many people.

i can only share my experience after one day. bear in mind i have hardly used it... mainly because i dont really have a need to as yet. i bought it to use as a media player (replace my wdtv live) and torrent downloader but havent had the time to set it up. obviously the bonus is it has a screen and a fair few apps that may possibly come in useful. it might even get used to read in bed but i have a kindle...enough said.
so at the moment my useage has been mainly downloading a few android hardware id apps because i was scratching my head wondering where the rest of my ram had got to. i honestly thought all 1.5ghz turbo models shipped with 1gb ram. my device proves that theory to be a myth. i have also called tech support who said they would get back to me today... i am still waiting.
CONS
thje touchscreen stopped responding to touches last night. sometimes it would work sometimes it wouldnt. gets very frustrating when you have to keep tapping at something in order for the tablet to do what you want.
not the fastest beast ever. i started browsing and opened about ten tabs and it ground to a halt. this may have caused the touchscreen to become unresponsive as above?
even though i have the omap 4460 running at 1.5ghz and yet i still only have 512mb ram. be very careful about which model you buy and i mean this. the 512mb ram version is obviously a lesser model and i think contributed to the above issue wihen surfing the net. if you can therefore have a look in the menu to see what you are actually buying.
terrible viewing angles.
cheap build quality - if you put slight pressure on the screen it will distort badly.
i have read that one must be very careful with the usb port because it can break very easily. makes me nervous any time i need to actually plug a cable in there.
as per the norm no ac3 support in videos.
tech support is pretty shoddy (this is simply my experience after the call i made yesterday and the fact that the promised call back never arrived).
it has a locked bootloader and development is pretty thin on the ground. it lacks a real community of modders mainly hampered by the locked bootloader. basically it aint that popular in the grand shceme of things and that means we wont get much in the way of custom roms. now before anyone starts...dont get me wrong the devs here are i am sure doing a fine job and i aint putting any of the work down (i havent even tested it yet although i will). what i am saying is that compared to any of the popular devices the modding scene is pretty threadbare.
PROS
Good media player with the ultra bonus that it can browse network shares as well as connect to upnp servers
i see it has an inbuilt media server... this is nice as it saves me having to download an app to do the job
it has an inbuilt remote control app so one can use the phone to navigate menus (havent tested this yet and i probably wont ever use it because i have a hdmi right next to where i sit but hey ho it is there)
apart from the build issue cons above the quality when it is sat in the hand is overall not bad at all. however it does feel a tad flimsy and i would hate to drop it or even have it fall off my sofa.
it is cheap i mean i got mine for about 110 quid brand new but without a box.
archos have pretty much left ics alone. there are a few apps that are pre installed and most of them are useful. there is also no skin on top which makes for a nicer experience in use.
the battery is a surprising. i charged it yesterday and it is still on 69 per cent left. granted i have used it for less than hour mainly jjust looking at my settings trying to figure out what had happened to the ram but hey... i am still quite impressed. lets put it this way it is a major step up from the 70it that i owned for a week or so. the battery in that was truely diabolical.
i think and this is a personal thing that the form factor is the best there is. it makes more sense to me to have a 4:3 format in such a small device but if it cant output at 1080p widescreen then i will be bitterly disappointed (i will therefore reserve judgement on this theory).
it has a kick stand which feels quite weak and one will have to be careful not to topple it over but for watching videos it will come in handy. it can also be used to simply prop it up and leave it as a dedicated digital picture frame.
i will say the audio from the inbuilt speakers aint that bad. it aint good though so dont be expecting hifi but then again i dont think any of the competition is any better.
so that is my experience of the tablet over the last 24 hours. i am going to spend some time with it tomorrow rooting the thing setting it up customising it and trying out some of the roms the devs have worked so hard to produce. hopefully they will go a long way towards making the machine an all round nicer experience. i will also be testing the hdmi output to me tv and seeing how it fares with torrents and media. if it can handle my media, download torrents and work as a digital picture frame then it will be money well spent. if it cant then i will be selling it on.
i will finish with this. it isnt exactly the coolest kid on the block so if style is more your thing go with the nexus. the nexus will also be quite a bit faster and the screen will be far better. however the screen on the nexus is also smaller, there is no way to expand the memory and there is no hdmi port.
pigs and troughs i say. for the price i paid at 100 quid the archos is pretty good value. however i wouldnt pay a penny more. if you can get it cheap then i say buy it (with some hesitation... dont come blaming me when you aint happy) but if you have to pay rrp then i would seriously look elsewhere.
EDIT: Doh i have made silly boo boo. its funny but it is only after i have bought the tablet did i think about the screen size format. obviously me telly is widescreen and the tablet isnt. so while it mirrors everything perfectly it is the same 4:3 format meaning major black bars down the dies. silly really i dont know why i didnt think of this before. it is the final nail in the coffin. so after owning it for about 2 days i have already put my 80 g9 turbo up for sale. OP think long and hard about what you want from a tablet before buying one and then ask yourself will it do all i need it to do. that way you may save yourself the same hassle i now find i have.

Does anyone have a problem with the power button not going on or off unless you plug it in? Mine seems to be doing it. Have a 101 g9 Turbo rooted with ics blue by surdu (thanks to him)
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Fatty1212 said:
Does anyone have a problem with the power button not going on or off unless you plug it in? Mine seems to be doing it. Have a 101 g9 Turbo rooted with ics blue by surdu (thanks to him)
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I don't have. Sounds like it's broken.
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rockmonkey1973 said:
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even though i have the omap 4460 running at 1.5ghz and yet i still only have 512mb ram...
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Did you update to I.C.S ?
Apparently after doing this the 'missing' RAM will magically appear.

omegaRED7 said:
I have no idea if they'd survive a 1 meter fall. It depends on your luck i guess. You'll forgive me for not testing that in practice
About CM9: The G9 isn't officially supported/mentioned on the CyanogenMod website. JackpotClavin made a fully working CM9, you can look here:
Anybody interested in testing a CM9 super-alpha build in a week or so?
All of Surdu_petru's ROMs ([email protected], Root only, Overclock Edition, Root deodex & busybox...) are in the Gen9 development section, have a look.
All ROMs require you to enable SDE (Special Developer Edition) on the Archos, see here how to do it: [TUT] How to Install Official SDE menu and rooted firmware (updated 15 June 2012)
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one year ago, I bought two 80g9 tablets. One for me and one for my four year old son. Tablets are great for children with autism. Anyways, his tablet has been down the stairs, off tables, dropped from my jeep to the pavement. Scratches and nothing else happened. I have mine rooted with ice blue and it works really well now. I can only recommend the tablet if rooted with custom rom.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using xda app-developers app

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Did you update to I.C.S ?
Apparently after doing this the 'missing' RAM will magically appear.
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yes this only happens to the g9s that have ice cream sandwich label on the bottom left hand corner of the box. if your box has a honeycomb type bee icon then you are stuck with 512mb regardless of whether or not they are turbo models!
the rough guesstimate archos tech support gave me was any sold after march 2012 should have 1gb of ram but that the ice cream sandwich must be on the box if not say goodbye to the idea of having a decent amount of memory.
i returned mine as faulty anyway after a few days and thankfully got my money back. on top of all the other issues mine would randomly reboot when it was sleeping. i caught it a few times simply booting back to life after it had decided to shut down and restart. glad to be rid and wont ever buy archos again. burn me once i may try again but burn me twice and i will learn my lesson for life.

Thank you for sharing.I also have.:good::good::good:

rockmonkey1973 said:
yes this only happens to the g9s that have ice cream sandwich label on the bottom left hand corner of the box. if your box has a honeycomb type bee icon then you are stuck with 512mb regardless of whether or not they are turbo models!
the rough guesstimate archos tech support gave me was any sold after march 2012 should have 1gb of ram but that the ice cream sandwich must be on the box if not say goodbye to the idea of having a decent amount of memory.
i returned mine as faulty anyway after a few days and thankfully got my money back. on top of all the other issues mine would randomly reboot when it was sleeping. i caught it a few times simply booting back to life after it had decided to shut down and restart. glad to be rid and wont ever buy archos again. burn me once i may try again but burn me twice and i will learn my lesson for life.
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Mine did this too while running honeycomb. On ics, both work great. Made a huge difference. And with serdu's rom, its smooth sailing now. Just have to reboot once every couple of days. No big deal.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using xda app-developers app

Im trying to get rid of mine, I havent used it in a while, I would like to sell it.
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Another thing about the Archos is the size is way more appealing than a nexus. And expandable storage is great.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using xda app-developers app

Newman K1

I recently purchased the Newman K1
Does anyone know how to root it?
Does anyone how to install the original android 4.2rom on this, it came with lewa OS4.2 installed
Thanks for your help

ok

Ηas anyone bought this phone so we can have some general presentation?

A slightly late reply. I've been using the Freelander branded version of this phone (Freelander i30) as my main device for the past month and a half, and I'm pretty impressed: it's the first Chinese phone I've used where everything works without much hassle, including GPS. Camera is also decent by normal standards, and perfectly usable for snapshots.
Its main drawback is limited 3G support, as only the 2100 frequency is supported. A couple other very minor annoyances are the digitizer grid which can be seen in direct sunlight by turning the phone at a certain angle, the tendency of the screen to get dirty, and the average in-call audio quality. They don't pose a problem in use, in fact I bet most owners won't even notice them.
As for the rest, it's pretty great: the screen is very bright with good viewing angles colors and contrast; signal reception is ok, about the same as most other phones I had; firmware support is excellent, with two official ROMs (plain Android and Lewa) and frequent updates; GPS is very quick to fix and usually gets to 5m precision; audio quality through the headphone jack is pretty good, even usable by audiophile standards. Battery life is great, with moderate use I can do more than 3 days, heavy use a full day with something to spare.
For its price it's a very good phone, with good community support (there's an excellent thread on 4pda with English recoveries, custom ROMs, etc.). If you have any questions just ask and I'll try to answer them.

ludoo said:
A slightly late reply. I've been using the Freelander branded version of this phone (Freelander i30) as my main device for the past month and a half, and I'm pretty impressed: it's the first Chinese phone I've used where everything works without much hassle, including GPS. Camera is also decent by normal standards, and perfectly usable for snapshots.
Its main drawback is limited 3G support, as only the 2100 frequency is supported. A couple other very minor annoyances are the digitizer grid which can be seen in direct sunlight by turning the phone at a certain angle, the tendency of the screen to get dirty, and the average in-call audio quality. They don't pose a problem in use, in fact I bet most owners won't even notice them.
As for the rest, it's pretty great: the screen is very bright with good viewing angles colors and contrast; signal reception is ok, about the same as most other phones I had; firmware support is excellent, with two official ROMs (plain Android and Lewa) and frequent updates; GPS is very quick to fix and usually gets to 5m precision; audio quality through the headphone jack is pretty good, even usable by audiophile standards. Battery life is great, with moderate use I can do more than 3 days, heavy use a full day with something to spare.
For its price it's a very good phone, with good community support (there's an excellent thread on 4pda with English recoveries, custom ROMs, etc.). If you have any questions just ask and I'll try to answer them.
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Can you tell me that you have found 2 roms you mention?

You mean where have I found them? Sure
Newman K1 ROMs are released on the Newman BBS (forum) in this thread, they can also be found on the 4PDA thread in the formware section.
If instead you meant if I like them, the Lewa ROM is beautiful and very well done, but I prefer stock Android. They both work very well, rooting is easy with motochopper.

ludoo said:
You mean where have I found them? Sure
Newman K1 ROMs are released on the Newman BBS (forum) in this thread, they can also be found on the 4PDA thread in the formware section.
If instead you meant if I like them, the Lewa ROM is beautiful and very well done, but I prefer stock Android. They both work very well, rooting is easy with motochopper.
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and 2 Forum that suggest it is in non-intelligible languages for me, is there some topik here on xda or some anyway in English;

What's wrong with google translate?
Sent from my Newman K1 using Tapatalk 2

ludoo said:
What's wrong with google translate?
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This is one solution ...

ludoo said:
A slightly late reply. I've been using the Freelander branded version of this phone (Freelander i30) as my main device for the past month and a half, and I'm pretty impressed: it's the first Chinese phone I've used where everything works without much hassle, including GPS. Camera is also decent by normal standards, and perfectly usable for snapshots.
Its main drawback is limited 3G support, as only the 2100 frequency is supported. A couple other very minor annoyances are the digitizer grid which can be seen in direct sunlight by turning the phone at a certain angle, the tendency of the screen to get dirty, and the average in-call audio quality. They don't pose a problem in use, in fact I bet most owners won't even notice them.
As for the rest, it's pretty great: the screen is very bright with good viewing angles colors and contrast; signal reception is ok, about the same as most other phones I had; firmware support is excellent, with two official ROMs (plain Android and Lewa) and frequent updates; GPS is very quick to fix and usually gets to 5m precision; audio quality through the headphone jack is pretty good, even usable by audiophile standards. Battery life is great, with moderate use I can do more than 3 days, heavy use a full day with something to spare.
For its price it's a very good phone, with good community support (there's an excellent thread on 4pda with English recoveries, custom ROMs, etc.). If you have any questions just ask and I'll try to answer them.
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That's great, thanks for your input. It's been a nightmare trying to find any community support for this phone (in English anyway!). I've just ordered this from Merimobiles. When you mention about the screen getting dirty quite easily, do you mean smudge marks easily appear or that dirt gets easily trapped at the sides of the screen ? And how average is the audio quality, is it fairly difficult to understand what someone is saying or is the clarity just missing ? Thanks

georger010 said:
That's great, thanks for your input. It's been a nightmare trying to find any community support for this phone (in English anyway!). I've just ordered this from Merimobiles. When you mention about the screen getting dirty quite easily, do you mean smudge marks easily appear or that dirt gets easily trapped at the sides of the screen ? And how average is the audio quality, is it fairly difficult to understand what someone is saying or is the clarity just missing ? Thanks
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What I mean by saying the screen gets easily dirty is that it's pretty easy to leave smudges on it and they are less easily wiped without some sort of liquid (water is fine), as if it was missing an oleophobic coating or had a very weak one. From reading around it's a common issue with most Chinese phones, I guess they save a few pennies by using a weak/no coating. It's not a big issue, especially if you use a screen protector or even if you don't like me, I just clean it more often than other phones I had. You could also try a "diy" coating, there are threads by people using car wax or windshield water repellent liquids.
The audio is ok, now I don't even notice anything during calls. I only noticed it when switching from the Jiayu G3, which had better call quality. You won't probably notice anything out of place. I'm also using a more recent baseband than the stock one, from a Zopo phone using the same chipset (here, flash with cwm or copy modem.img to /etc/firmware then chmod 644) which seems to have improved things, but maybe it's just placebo.
All in all it's a pretty great phone. I installed the latest LewaOS from early June and it's super smooth, and beautiful. A bit bloated, but nothing that can't be remedied by deleting a few apks from /system/app.
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PS - as for community support, there's an excellent thread on the Russian 4pda forum, split into a discussion thread and a firmware thread. You can use google translator and understand most of it, and there are links to all the drivers and ROMs in the firmware thread.
To download software just register, again using google translator. The only apparently difficult part is entering the captcha, but in practice you don't need to type cyrillic characters, just enter the sum of the two numbers displayed.
Another useful thread might be the one I started on the Italian androidiani forum, just search google for "newman k1 androidiani", in the first post I have collected a few useful links. Again, google translator allows you to grasp what you need.

I recently received my Newman k1. It is a very good phone, all works well. The only problem are the speakers:they're not bad, they're just not loud enough.
I have not missed any call because of it, anyway. Sorry for my bad English.
Sent from my Newman K1 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

You can tweak audio levels from the engineer menu, search on google there are lots of threads on how to do it as it's the same process for all mediatek phones.
Sent from my Newman K1 using Tapatalk 2

ludoo said:
You can tweak audio levels from the engineer menu, search on google there are lots of threads on how to do it as it's the same process for all mediatek phones.
Sent from my Newman K1 using Tapatalk 2
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Give if you want more info or link
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Ηi Ludoo
you use this application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobileuncle.toolbox below to increase the volume and if so can you give us the prices;

paiktaras said:
Ηi Ludoo
you use this application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobileuncle.toolbox below to increase the volume and if so can you give us the prices;
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Prices for what???

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Prices for what???
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sorry for my bad english, units I meant

google "mobileuncle volume levels"...

anyone have the newest lewaos rom from lewaos forum?

Brief Newman K1 and Affiliates
paiktaras said:
Ηas anyone bought this phone so we can have some general presentation?
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:good:Newman K1/K1A/K1W in black, white, black/white
MTK6589
Depending on whre you buy it from they ship either the K1, K1A (labled as K1W), and as K1A panda under the name "Newsmy" Panda
K1 has 5 inch screen / K1A/W is 5.3 inches, though they share the exact specs, so any mods for one goes for the other. From what i had translated on their CHINESE forum, http://bbs.newamn.mobi, one is referred to the K1 area for flash, tweaks, ROMS, etc. Google does an OK job translating, you can get the general idea, but those Chinese characters, Whew! Pre-rooted from http://merimobiles.com (all their items are pre-rooted).
Onto the phone as a device for use, its a great device to start out with for tweaks and adjustments. The 5.3 screen is large enough to clearly see, The LEWA ROM is very smooth and though some say bloated, any apk's can be removed. Just do your research before making any adjustments.So yeah, smooth ROM out of the box. Simple font, based on android 4.2.1 though some options are in different places. Sound wise, it needs work, the headphone level is loud enough for inside listening but low enough to get drowned out by NYC traffic. As stated on other threads, this can be fixed..http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248396. The screen can easily be scratched, it is thinly coated, and might do well with a DIY method or a screen protector. The memory leaves to desire however. They market it as having 1 g RAM//4gb Rom but its only a 2 gb ROM of which 1.5 is taken up by the OS. An external SD is a must, just got to Settings>Storage> and chose save to SD and SD for internal memory. You should be fine then.CAMERA is 8 mp main/ 2 mp front. Camera quality is good on this phone. Clear crisp, natural looking pictures in daylight. Flash is too bright.Audio is good quality, suitable for most, though not Sony. It will run on T-mobile/ATT in the USA but only at 2g speeds through EDGE/GSM/GPRS. If your texting and phone calls, your fine and may be settled. If its internet browsing, then its a bit slow to load. I use a VOIP program with Google voice to make free calls over WIFI. WIFI and Bluetooth connectivity is excellent. GPS locks in within 1 minute max, though better positioning may be had by a window. MTK 6589 chips are known for their poor GPS signals, and though even though its not a 6589T chip, it still works fine.
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[Q] Note 10.0 2014 Visible Digitizer Matrix

Hello everyone. I have been reading forums on this website for a long time and I must say there is tons of useful information over here. So thought I should become a member too.
Recently I Bought Note 10.1 2014 Edition LTE version. I was expecting it to be much better that its really is. The display is nice but there is lag on this Tablet. It stutters during web browsing. I have a note 3 also which is much smoother although it has 1.9 Ghz Exynos processor as compared to 2.3 Ghz on this tablet. Anyways I have read on net that may be its because it has double the amount of pixels on display as compared to note 3 therefore it has some amount of lag.
Ok my main question to you guys who already own this tablet. In reflection of light I can see the Digitizer Matrix all along the display. its a bit annoying looks like faint sctraches on the screen. I have used many android devices but never experienced anything like it before. while looking as it directly with no light reflection it is not visible at all but even in faintest light reflection is starts to become visible even with the display on
So is it normal or a defect?
Help would be highly appreciated.

drag80 said:
Hello everyone. I have been reading forums on this website for a long time and I must say there is tons of useful information over here. So thought I should become a member too.
Recently I Bought Note 10.1 2014 Edition LTE version. I was expecting it to be much better that its really is. The display is nice but there is lag on this Tablet. It stutters during web browsing. I have a note 3 also which is much smoother although it has 1.9 Ghz Exynos processor as compared to 2.3 Ghz on this tablet. Anyways I have read on net that may be its because it has double the amount of pixels on display as compared to note 3 therefore it has some amount of lag.
Ok my main question to you guys who already own this tablet. In reflection of light I can see the Digitizer Matrix all along the display. its a bit annoying looks like faint sctraches on the screen. I have used many android devices but never experienced anything like it before. while looking as it directly with no light reflection it is not visible at all but even in faintest light reflection is starts to become visible even with the display on
So is it normal or a defect?
Help would be highly appreciated.
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Have you used a device with an inductive display before? It puts out an electromagnetic signal which detects the presence of the pen. That's why the display looks different. I've been using mine since November and have never noticed the grid in everyday use. As for lag it pretty much went away with the 4.4 update. If you're already on 4.4 and the display grid is going to bother you return the device while you still can.

BarryH_GEG said:
Have you used a device with an inductive display before? It puts out an electromagnetic signal which detects the presence of the pen. That's why the display looks different. I've been using mine since November and have never noticed the grid in everyday use. As for lag it pretty much went away with the 4.4 update. If you're already on 4.4 and the display grid is going to bother you return the device while you still can.
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The visible matrix does not bother me too much when in use. The display is still beautiful.
I am still on 4.3 coz 4.4 is not available in my region yet. Lets hope once the update is made available in my region, lag will reduce.
The gaming performance however, is better than on note 3.

drag80 said:
The visible matrix does not bother me too much when in use. The display is still beautiful.
I am still on 4.3 coz 4.4 is not available in my region yet. Lets hope once the update is made available in my region, lag will reduce.
The gaming performance however, is better than on note 3.
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4.4 is rolling out painfully slow. What region are you in and what model number N10.1-14 do you have? Chances are you can safely download and install a compatible region's ROM without changing the status of your device or tripping KNOX.

BarryH_GEG said:
4.4 is rolling out painfully slow. What region are you in and what model number N10.1-14 do you have? Chances are you can safely download and install a compatible region's ROM without changing the status of your device or tripping KNOX.
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I have LTE version. It was brought by a friend from Singapore. Its made by Samsung Vietnam and right now in Pakistan.

drag80 said:
I have LTE version. It was brought by a friend from Singapore. Its made by Samsung Vietnam and right now in Pakistan.
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You can download the HK 4.4 ROM here.
http://samsung-updates.com/details/30043/Galaxy_Note_10.1_2014_LTE/SM-P605/TGY/P605ZSUCNF1.html
Many people on the forum are using ROMs from other (but compatible) regions because 4.4 hasn't been rolled out to their specific region yet. I'm using a Panamanian ROM on a SM-P601 from Trinidad. They work fine. There can be some oddity (I still have lock screen widgets which I shouldn't and don't have Daynote when I should) but everything else works as designed.
If you've never installed a non-standard ROM on your device do a Google search on "Odin." It'll link you to s/w you need to download and provide you with instructions. I can answer any questions you might have. There's little risk and it doesn't affect your device's status (it stays "official") or KNOX. For me, 4.4 was like getting a new tablet.

Yes I am sure 4.4 solves many issues. I will try the above instructions today. thanks a lot and best regards.

BarryH_GEG said:
You can download the HK 4.4 ROM here.
http://samsung-updates.com/details/30043/Galaxy_Note_10.1_2014_LTE/SM-P605/TGY/P605ZSUCNF1.html
Many people on the forum are using ROMs from other (but compatible) regions because 4.4 hasn't been rolled out to their specific region yet. I'm using a Panamanian ROM on a SM-P601 from Trinidad. They work fine. There can be some oddity (I still have lock screen widgets which I shouldn't and don't have Daynote when I should) but everything else works as designed.
If you've never installed a non-standard ROM on your device do a Google search on "Odin." It'll link you to s/w you need to download and provide you with instructions. I can answer any questions you might have. There's little risk and it doesn't affect your device's status (it stays "official") or KNOX. For me, 4.4 was like getting a new tablet.
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Hi due to political instability in my country, my office is off nowadays and I finally got some time to update my software.
I installed P605XXUCNF2 version which is from NEE region. At first I was not sure but then the lag and stutter in my tablet forced me to go for it.
Downloaded from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/sm-p605-p605xxucnf2-firmware-t2810048
Like you said Barry its literally like having a new tablet. The lag is gone and overall it has become really smooth.
Thank you for your advice without which I would never have found the solution.
God bless you bro.

drag80 said:
Hello everyone. I have been reading forums on this website for a long time and I must say there is tons of useful information over here. So thought I should become a member too.
Recently I Bought Note 10.1 2014 Edition LTE version. I was expecting it to be much better that its really is. The display is nice but there is lag on this Tablet. It stutters during web browsing. I have a note 3 also which is much smoother although it has 1.9 Ghz Exynos processor as compared to 2.3 Ghz on this tablet. Anyways I have read on net that may be its because it has double the amount of pixels on display as compared to note 3 therefore it has some amount of lag.
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So is it normal or a defect?
Help would be highly appreciated.
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i just thought i'd pitch in, theres a setting in chrome you can change to eliminate that lag - it just doesnt allocate enough ram for the resolution its rendered at by default.

Wow another thread about lag..I have had this tab since Dec 2013 ..Never had lag, no issues ever... I have a life, so I don't sit and stare at the tablet all day and pick at it. It's Android . And Sammy it will have some issues...There are quick easy fixes for the mysterious lag people are complaining about. This is the best tab out for this year..The Tab S is the same tab minus the pen..it only has a better screen ..but that could be debated as well.
Sent from my SM-P600 using XDA Premium HD app

Mussels84 said:
i just thought i'd pitch in, theres a setting in chrome you can change to eliminate that lag - it just doesnt allocate enough ram for the resolution its rendered at by default.
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Thanks for sharing will try right away and report back

GalaxyNotesTx said:
Wow another thread about lag..I have had this tab since Dec 2013 ..Never had lag, no issues ever... I have a life, so I don't sit and stare at the tablet all day and pick at it. It's Android . And Sammy it will have some issues...There are quick easy fixes for the mysterious lag people are complaining about. This is the best tab out for this year..The Tab S is the same tab minus the pen..it only has a better screen ..but that could be debated as well.
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The amoled display will considerably increase battery life and will have better contrast. Its a huge improvement.
Other specs of tab s is same as note 10.1 as far as I know.

Oneplus3 touch latency is too bad..

anyone noticed very high touch latency on this device.. exp. when you moving your finger across display, its always couple mm behind it.. I was on many android/iphone devices before op and this is the worst latency I experianced.. The phone is good in all other points, but in this is very anoying.. Is there any software/kernel way to improve it somehow?

vrda08 said:
anyone noticed very high touch latency on this device.. exp. when you moving your finger across display, its always couple mm behind it.. I was on many android/iphone devices before op and this is the worst latency I experianced.. The phone is good in all other points, but in this is very anoying.. Is there any software/kernel way to improve it somehow?
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Could you give an example or a specific app where you face the input latency? Do you use a modified rom? In my case there is no lag at all. Accuracy and input speed are great

LS.xD said:
Could you give an example or a specific app where you face the input latency? Do you use a modified rom? In my case there is no lag at all. Accuracy and input speed are great
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there is no lag, there is touch latency..
when you move your finger, its not instant, exp, try fast moving notification panel, and u will notice that panel is behind your finger. Maybe its not bother you, but if you try nexus device or iphone, you will see dramatic difference. I notice that @arter97 talks about it on twitter too.. I tried his kerenl and all coustom/stock/6.0/7.1 roms, but there is always high delay/latency persistent..
I tried my gf nexus5 and its way better.. and I read on web there is 75ms touch latency on nexus5, so i think there must be 100-120ms latency on oneplus3.. thats shame for flagship killer..
video example about what touch latency is.

vrda08 said:
there is no lag, there is touch latency..
when you move your finger, its not instant, exp, try fast moving notification panel, and u will notice that panel is behind your finger. Maybe its not bother you, but if you try nexus device or iphone, you will see dramatic difference. I notice that @arter97 talks about it on twitter too.. I tried his kerenl and all coustom/stock/6.0/7.1 roms, but there is always high delay/latency persistent..
I tried my gf nexus5 and its way better.. and I read on web there is 75ms touch latency on nexus5, so i think there must be 100-120ms latency on oneplus3.. thats shame for flagship killer..
video example about what touch latency is.
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Now I know what you're talking about BUT does 100ms instead of 75ms mean that the usability of the phone is limited in any way? Do you have a concrete example of a app or feature that you can't use due to the latency?

LS.xD said:
Now I know what you're talking about BUT does 100ms instead of 75ms mean that the usability of the phone is limited in any way? Do you have a concrete example of a app or feature that you can't use due to the latency?
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no there is no that way of limitation because of 25-50ms latency. But there is worse user experiance then in some 3 yrs old devices..

Same here...
vrda08 said:
anyone noticed very high touch latency on this device.. exp. when you moving your finger across display, its always couple mm behind it.. I was on many android/iphone devices before op and this is the worst latency I experianced.. The phone is good in all other points, but in this is very anoying.. Is there any software/kernel way to improve it somehow?
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I thought i was the only one that noticed it. I can give some example: Try True Skate, it's a paid gaming app, but it's fun to play sometimes. I have also a galaxy tab S 8.4 which has a lot better latency without any doubt.

so there is any way to improve this via software? or it is a hardware limitation?

In my opinion this is just the way how OxygenOS is designed. Try CM 14, it definetelly is created to has no touch latency.

M3ntoR said:
In my opinion this is just the way how OxygenOS is designed. Try CM 14, it definetelly is created to has no touch latency.
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Because it's Nougat.

Arter97 Tried to improve it the best he can but ran into some issues with firmware, You can read up on it in his kernel thread

M3ntoR said:
In my opinion this is just the way how OxygenOS is designed. Try CM 14, it definetelly is created to has no touch latency.
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Because it's Nougat.
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No its not nougat. Dont write s***.
Its about firmware not software. Google improved software in 7.1 with reduced touch input lag, but thats not problem wit op3.
And about nougat, I tried all roms, from 6.0 to 7.1 and its all the same in high touch latency.

if i were you, i'd use at least assistive touch as a test approach. instead of pulling up/down notification area. which introduces quite a lot possible overhead. like animation, event processing, gpu etc.
generally speaking, the OS certainly if not solely affects what you call 'touch latency' ( 'touch latency based on visual feedback' i would say). it's almost definitely not a firmware issue.
btw. you might have already heard of the infamous audio latency issue with android. as a matter of fact, it's almost a linux issue. due to the kernel and system design.
PS: oh wait. i will give you the best test case. just activate dev menu, choose to display currrent touch position on video overlay. see how everything works.
vrda08 said:
there is no lag, there is touch latency..
when you move your finger, its not instant, exp, try fast moving notification panel, and u will notice that panel is behind your finger. Maybe its not bother you, but if you try nexus device or iphone, you will see dramatic difference. I notice that @arter97 talks about it on twitter too.. I tried his kerenl and all coustom/stock/6.0/7.1 roms, but there is always high delay/latency persistent..
I tried my gf nexus5 and its way better.. and I read on web there is 75ms touch latency on nexus5, so i think there must be 100-120ms latency on oneplus3.. thats shame for flagship killer..
video example about what touch latency is.
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So what's the value of this touch latency on this device in comparison with other phones? Any technical figure?

It's at about ~95ms. In comparison iPhone 6s is at about ~25ms and HTC M8 is at 46ms. That's what I read while googling the subject.

PlayPetepp said:
It's at about ~95ms. In comparison iPhone 6s is at about ~25ms and HTC M8 is at 46ms. That's what I read while googling the subject.
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Could you please point me in the right direction so that I can see and compare result with other devices too?

ithehappy said:
Could you please point me in the right direction so that I can see and compare result with other devices too?
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You could start here and then maybe google "smartphone touch screen latency".

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Problem reported on OnePlus forums. Check it here and here if you want further info.
Edit: xda also posted the issue here

Ngh5505 posted this one the OnePlus Forum:
https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/screenshot_20161129-095025-png.469325/
Did anybody tried it?

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Ngh5505 posted this one the OnePlus Forum:
https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/screenshot_20161129-095025-png.469325/
Did anybody tried it?
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It's for OP3T but it's already been ported to OP3 and there's no difference.

It's on now: Ubergizmo, App apes, Android Headlines, Mobiles365, Android Authority, Softpedia

Doogee x30 (32-bit) :: An Un-Boxing and Review

Introductions ::
Hello there, and welcome to my review of the DOOGEE x30 (32-bit – not L) smartphone! As a casual technology enthusiast, this sort of product truly fuels my interest in the mobile device industry. Manufacturers, like DOOGEE, constantly raise the bar of expectancy-vs-price, by either introducing highly sought-after features to cheaper devices or creating entirely new features that are then introduced through the budget market first. This practice of constantly improving the developing the low-end market makes for an interesting show when one goes to observe the ripples that this creates in the mobile device market as a while. These manufacturers, when they get the formula just right, create devices that can competently perform at a low price point, while displaying very little compromise in overall design, features, and quality. As such, I find the budget market to be an important part of the general mobile device market(place).
Now, for a bit of personal background. This is my third smartphone from DOOGEE, which means that I have a slight, inherent bias. However, I will do my best to curb such, for the sake of an honest and fair assessment of the device in question. I will start with the un-boxing experience, and move forward from there in a semi-natural progression, if you will. The included clips will (unfortunately) be presented in 720p30fps - not true HD. But, it should get the un-boxing experience across in a satisfactory manner - I hope.
Specs ::
Can be found here.
Un-Boxing ::
approx. 15 minutes long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_cLORLc24
* Please note that the first part (the un-boxing) is still being processed, and the second part (the actual review) will be uploaded later this week (and hopefully, in a higher resolution). I hope you all are enjoying your winter holiday this year
Review ::
There is none - it's ded
Pros ::
The CPU is an MTK 6580, which is clocked at 1.3GHz - a decent CPU for this SoC, although 32-bit.*
This phone comes with 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, which is better than what many other budget smartphones come with (less than 1GB in many cases). In fact, this SoC could be packed with up to 4GB of RAM if they wanted…
The 4-sensor Camera system truly sets this device apart from the competition in terms of photographic capabilities at this price-point (60-100 USD). They record at 5mp and 8mp respectively, meaning that the maximum resolution you can get for an image (from the rear cameras) is 3264 x 2448. Pretty nice for a sub-100 USD smartphone...
The metal frame also helps in terms of durability, and even adds to the overall visual appeal of the phone’s design.
The curved body makes it easy to hold, and ergonomically pleasing to the average user. No pain in the palms to speak of
The phone comes with Android 7, which is a great move - Android 8 is here, and DOOGEE can push an update whenever they’re ready. In addition to that (assuming that DOOGEE does update this phone), it gives users the option to decide on whether or not to move on to 8 - software options. But, while you’re waiting, you can play around with Quick Settings Customization - which is another plus.
This phone comes with 16GB of internal storage as an entry model, in opposed to 8GB (as seen in past models like the x5 and x6). This move is definitely one in the right direction…
The software that comes installed on this device initially appears quite close to stock (Google Apps and all - beyond AOSP) Android, which is great for those of you who want more control over the experience, or a simpler experience when using Android. It’s pretty difficult to spot most of the differences and deviations...
Cons ::
This model’s CPU is 32-bit, which limits the RAM and apps that can be used on this device. As such, it won’t be able to use any software that requires a 64-bit* architecture or more than 4GB of RAM. Remember the x5 Pro and x6 Pro models?
The RAM speed on this device is only 533MHz, which leaves it feeling like low-price DDR2/LPDDR2 (at around 500-600MHz), in opposed to the LPDDR3 it’s actually packing, which (in theory) can reach speeds of around 800MHz.
The Mali GPU included on this SoC is only 2 cores*, which is a bit underwhelming for obvious reasons. A higher clock speed could have helped this a bit.
It comes with some unnecessary apps, which can’t be completely removed without rooting. This needlessly reduces the amount of free storage space on the device. What’s up with the cat hanging from the top of the screen?! The approach used on the x5 and x6 Pro models should be used on this device instead.
It’s theme, while small in terms of performance impact, is an unnecessary and non-innovative deviation from a simpler Google/AOSP UI experience. Once again, the approach used on the x5 and x6 Pro models should be used on this device instead.
The screen, while being HD-Ready, is of the 720p/1080i variety - not the Full HD (1080p) that many have come to expect from their smartphones nowadays. But, this isn’t too much to bare.
The camera(s) only record at 5mp and 8mp respectively, meaning that the maximum resolution you can ever get for an image (from the rear cameras) is 3264 x 2448. While still images are quite nice, video recordings are locked in at 30fps, and may actually be at a lower resolution still.
This device can only receive so much expansion via the SD card slot - 32GB to be exact.
The SoC on this model doesn’t offer 4G(LTE)* capabilities, Bluetooth 5, NFC, or Wireless Charging.
It’s USB 2.0, instead of 3.0. An upgrade to 3.0 would have been nice...
Not so sure about how honest DOOGEE is about the camera.
Some apps I would remove (if I could) include:
Torch*
Themes **
System Manager**
File Manager**
DOOGEE ?
Chrome *g
* Integrate this feature into the Quick Settings - no need for another app
** Can be handled better with 3rd party apps
*g Have better counterparts that are developed by Google, and should be decided on by the user
? What does this app do?! I don’t remember it being around on the older models...
Conclusion ::
Overall, I think that this device is quite nicely-made for this price (60-70 USD), but could be improved upon a bit. While being a worthy successor to the single-digit x-models, I also think that there should be a higher-end model available, for those of us who are willing to pay to have many of these issues alleviated (around say, 100 USD - like last time). In addition to this, from having had the x5 Pro and x6 Pro models, I can’t help but feel just a bit let down this time around. Yet, there isn’t an x30 Pro. Perhaps the x30L* would answer the call? Although, I haven’t been able to find the darned thing, for sale, anywhere!
Overall Rating: 7.0/10
Bottom Line;
Good show, DOOGEE. You do have some places where you can improve. But, I can’t wait to see what you come up with next...

I actually purchased this phone for the mother-in-law. It literally just arrived today. Off the top, it's a very nice phone, especially for the sub-$70 I paid for it. I'm going to be working with this in-depth over the next few days in order to customize it (and see what tricks I can find). I'll report back when I'm done.
UPDATE: Just got this TWRP'd and rooted. Now I can see what this thing can do. :good:

Here we go!...
Bratzilla said:
I actually purchased this phone for the mother-in-law. It literally just arrived today. Off the top, it's a very nice phone, especially for the sub-$70 I paid for it. I'm going to be working with this in-depth over the next few days in order to customize it (and see what tricks I can find). I'll report back when I'm done.
UPDATE: Just got this TWRP'd and rooted. Now I can see what this thing can do. :good:
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I'll be uploading a review of it this week!

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I'll be uploading a review of it this week!
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Good to hear! I enjoy reviews of these smaller brands. Not everyone can afford a Note 8 cash-out.
I got a few more technical notes. Apologies if I ramble a bit, but I wanted to get this listed so that I don't forget. (Please let me know if you want me to post my root method as I don't want to hijack your thread. I didn't see any other threads pertinent to this phone posted yet.) These notes have to do with modding the phone and how it behaved for me afterwards.
As mentioned earlier, I rooted this phone after playing with the stock version a bit. A note about rooting - there are several posts online that mention rooting via SP Flash Tool. I never got this to work for me. Instead, using ADB and the TWRP version for this phone did the job (there is a trick in doing so as the install wasn't quite so straightforward). Once TWRP was installed, flashing SuperSU went as usual. Root Checker confirmed that root did take.
Custom recovery was possible because Doogee X30's flavor of Nougat 7.0 (which btw this phone has one of the few maker-created launchers that I pretty much like) contains a switch in Settings that allows you to make the bootloader unlockable. A quick run through ADB to actually do the unlocking worked perfectly. However, I now have a "Status Orange" message upon boot-up that claims the phone is now unsafe due to the bootloader unlock. But this doesn't seem to adversely impact operation (at least nothing obvious has presented itself) - very similar to the message I got when I did the same thing to the Galaxy Note 4.
I was able to use Kernel Auditor to do thinks like speed up the CPU and enable init.d (one of the requirements to get Viper4Android to work). CPU tweaks substantially enhanced this phone's performance.
Once rooted, customization became relatively easy. I targeted my usual apps to enhance the phone. SELinux Switcher, Adaway, BusyBox, Kernel Auditor (to tweak CPU performance and enable init.d), and Viper4Android (the package that includes Sony + Dolby Atmos). Rooted apps are all performing as expected.
The factory launcher is surprisingly lite and simple, and I did enjoy it. I would have kept it for the MIL, but I didn't see any obvious way to change the icon set so I went with Evie Launcher (if you see a way, though, please let me know). So far, Evie is working quite nicely.
Wifi speeds are pretty good for a phone in this class; I have no complaints. For cell data, based on the radios supported, this phone can only work at 3G/HSPA+ as there is no LTE radio. However I'll better be able to speak on that once I put in her SIM card and really give this a twirl on AT&T towers.
With the right modifications, I'd say this phone performs similar to those with a much higher pay point. Of course it's nothing near flagship level. However, for the amount of RAM and on-board storage, SD card support, headphone jack and REMOVABLE battery - I'd say this phone is a pretty sweet deal especially for people who just cannot or do not want to spend $$$ for a bunch of features they don't need. Plus if you break this sucker, you're not gonna cry over it. Just save up a few In-and-Out combos in a piggy bank and you can buy another one.
Oh yeah - one final note. Regarding cases, unless you want to pay Amazon's ridiculously jacked-up prices, it's best to order one through eBay from overseas. I got the pleather wallet model and it looks pretty decent. Just saw there is now a genuine full-leather one also on eBay.
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Oh darn it! I just saw that you wanted to remove some system apps. Once rooted, there are apps in Playstore that should let you do just that.
In fact, thanks for that list. I'll check these out and see which ones I can dump. Is Themes tied to the launcher? If so, I may not touch it to avoid problems later. Speaking of Theme - that effing hanging cat can be turned off in the stock launcher settings. There is actually a switch for it. Sooooo annoying!
And your rating is very close to what others are giving (low to mid 7s), so it looks like your instincts are quite on the money.

Just added the first video. Once again, I'm kinda wishing that my dedicated camera was still operational (Nikon COOLPIX), but it stopped working a few months back. I had no option but the Nexus 7 camera (again). I've been using it as my camera for most of my videos where it isn't screen cap.

care to expand on TWRP rooting?!
(there is a trick in doing so as the install wasn't quite so straightforward)

For those wondering how to root this phone, its actually pretty simple. THIS WILL ERASE EVERYTHING.
Assuming you know some basic adb commands..
You wanna start off with making sure your bootloader is unlocked, which can be done fairly easily with ADB tools.
Don't be alarmed when your phone resets a couple times, its erasing data and reformating.
Once your bootloader is unlocked and your phone restarts, remember to reenable USB debugging. and then go to fastboot mode again to flash our recovery.
(I used the recovery link listed in the SUflash method that comes up when googling 'x30 doogee root')
Once our recovery is installed, we'll wanna put the latest version of SuperSU (Make sure its the zip, not the apk) onto your phone/SD card. Boot into recovery, and install SuperSU through TWRP.
Congratz, you've succesfully rooted your X30
Tested and verified on mine. Sorry I could not include links, do not have enough posts. Just wanted to be of assistance!

This device (unfortunately) actually sort needs root to even feel at-home with. Which is sad, because the x5 Pro and x6 Pro weren't like that. I rooted them advanced purposes - not to get them to a decent state...

Help me please!
I stuck my phone in TWRP can you send me a copy of your recovery?

VeteranoX said:
I stuck my phone in TWRP can you send me a copy of your recovery?
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I unfortunately don't have the device anymore