I guess I never really thought about his before, but pertaining to the dynamics of tethering and the connection speed; The other day, I tested the tethering on my phone, just for the hell of it. Disconnected my LAN connection on my computer, enabled the WiFi card, and started tethering, and it was great. Fast!!
Of course, I have a WiFi router and my phone is connected via WiFi, with Data turned off, so I'm used to fast data speeds on my phone.
Today, my DSL line went down, so I fired up tethering, and with no WiFi, I was only getting a 3G signal, and my internet connection to my computer was slow as hell.
The question is, and I never thought about it before, but the incoming signal determines the tethering speed, correct?
BTW, USB Tethering was even slower......
So is your question about what the "tethering source" is? Or is the question, why is it so slow?
To answer it, there are a number of factors that come in to play. Are you rooted? What rom/kernel combo are you using? What are you using to tether? For example, some roms have it built in, others use a seperate APK.
I use Ultimate Droid 3.1.1 rom, and use the built in tethering. From the PC, when doing a speed test, I usually get about 1.5-3MB download speeds, and usually about .5-1mb upload speeds. I had similar results when using the wireless tether APK available in the market.
I you have a 3G connection with a speed of 700kbps, how do you think it would magically go faster than that while you're tethering?? The data can go between the phone and the computer at 54,000kbps but it can only go 700kbps from the phone to sprint so obviously its not going to go any faster. It can only go as fast as the slowest link.
Also, I don't think you can't have the phone connected to WiFi and use WiFi tethering at the same time. So your first test was probably not tethered at all. You're computer connected to your WiFi router, not the phone. In order to tether using WiFi, you have to have WiFi turned off and the tether app uses the WiFi radio to do it, bridging the connection to 3G or 4G data from sprint.
Oh yeah, I should have said in the OP that I know WiFi drops when tethered and @Bradley, see my signature?? lol
I pretty much assumed that was why it was so slow, on 3G, but it has to be using my WiFi router for it to have been so fast when MY DSL isn't down thanks to the stupid storms beating the crap out of the Midwest..... right?
HipKat said:
Oh yeah, I should have said in the OP that I know WiFi drops when tethered.
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Well, that doesn't jive. You said you had you phone connected by WiFi to the DSL and you were tethered to the computer by WiFi. This is not possible. You can not use WiFi for both things at once. WiFi Tether will not work if you have normal WiFi turned on. Your computer was not tethered to the phone in that test. Your computer was connected to the DSL by the same WiFi your phone was.
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Well, that doesn't jive. You said you had you phone connected by WiFi to the DSL and you were tethered to the computer by WiFi. This is not possible. You can not use WiFi for both things at once. WiFi Tether will not work if you have normal WiFi turned on. Your computer was not tethered to the phone in that test. Your computer was connected to the DSL by the same WiFi your phone was.
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LoL.... after I read reply I reread the OP's post. Your right!!!! LMAO!!!!!
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Ok, let me explain. The other day, I had my phone's WiFi on, as I always do, since I have a Wireless Router with AT&T DSL. And it's much faster and uses less battery to connect to a wireless router than to just leave it in data mode via 3G, follow me?
I decided to test the tethering app, so I turned on Tethering, and connected my desktop computer to the Evo via that tethering thingy-ma-jingy. It was defintely connected to the Evo and NO to the Wireless router, which, btw, I don't even use the WAN side for my computer, I use the LAN connection, dig?
It was blazing fast. Faster than my normal DSL connection. Websites were snapping open, like cable modem fast.
Today, because of the storms, my DSL was down, so to get online on the computer-box thing on my big ol' desk here, I turned on Tethering.
BUT, I had to also turn Data on, so I would have a 3G connection.
My computer-thing was slow as hell now.
SO, if tethering turns off the phones WiFi connection, meaning it's no longer getting a signal from my DSL Wireless router, then why the MAJOR difference in speed as compared to today, when I only had 3G?
Wanna answer that for me, cowboy?
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Ok, let me explain. The other day, I had my phone's WiFi on, as I always do, since I have a Wireless Router with AT&T DSL. And it's much faster and uses less battery to connect to a wireless router than to just leave it in data mode via 3G, follow me?
I decided to test the tethering app, so I turned on Tethering, and connected my desktop computer to the Evo via that tethering thingy-ma-jingy. It was defintely connected to the Evo and NO to the Wireless router, which, btw, I don't even use the WAN side for my computer, I use the LAN connection, dig?
It was blazing fast. Faster than my normal DSL connection. Websites were snapping open, like cable modem fast.
Today, because of the storms, my DSL was down, so to get online on the computer-box thing on my big ol' desk here, I turned on Tethering.
BUT, I had to also turn Data on, so I would have a 3G connection.
My computer-thing was slow as hell now.
SO, if tethering turns off the phones WiFi connection, meaning it's no longer getting a signal from my DSL Wireless router, then why the MAJOR difference in speed as compared to today, when I only had 3G?
Wanna answer that for me, cowboy?
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Gremlins . . .
HipKat said:
Ok, let me explain.
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You're repeating yourself, and just using more words.
I don't care how many ways you attempt to re-describe the same thing. You can not have your phone connected to WiFi and utilize WiFi Tether at the same time. It is physically impossible. You are obviously confused about what you did.
Furthermore, even if it was not in complete defiance of reality, simply using your phone as a bridge between the computer and your WiFi router would not magically increase the speed of your network connection. Every single thing you have described in this thread is completely wrong. You're confused and mistaken about what you did.
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Wanna answer that for me, cowboy?
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Yes. You're wrong. There's your answer, again, for the third time.
OMFG!! I didn't say I was connected via WiFi WHILE I was tethering, I said my phone is always on WiFi when I'm at home because of my wireless router.
OBVIOUSLY the incoming WiFi signal to the phone drops when you start tethering. Everyone knows this, or they should.
The QUESTION is why was my tethering speed blazing fast until I didn't have a DSL signal coming to my house, meaning that UNTIL I STARTED tethering yesterday, I could only use 3G for a data signal to my phone. Then the tethering speed was slow as hell.
You said my computer wasn't connected to my phone in the first test, yet it was.
Network and sharing showed it was only connected to the EVO in both tests.
Now if you say it's because I no longer had a wireless router for the phone to receive a signal from, then it would seem to me that WiFi can't be dropping when I start tethering
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OMFG!! I didn't say I was connected via WiFi WHILE I was tethering, I said my phone is always on WiFi when I'm at home because of my wireless router.
OBVIOUSLY the incoming WiFi signal to the phone drops when you start tethering. Everyone knows this, or they should.
The QUESTION is why was my tethering speed blazing fast until I didn't have a DSL signal coming to my house, meaning that UNTIL I STARTED tethering yesterday, I could only use 3G for a data signal to my phone. Then the tethering speed was slow as hell.
You said my computer wasn't connected to my phone in the first test, yet it was.
Network and sharing showed it was only connected to the EVO in both tests.
Now if you say it's because I no longer had a wireless router for the phone to receive a signal from, then it would seem to me that WiFi can't be dropping when I start tethering
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If I follow your logic correctly, then it seems to me that your DSL speed is faster than the 3g signal you are getting on your phone at home. I say this because . .
1. When you tethered your computer to the phone to DSL via your Wifi router, you said it was fast.
2. When you lost your DSL and tethered the computer to phone using the 3g for internet access, it was slower.
3. So, based on that, than, for you, YES, 3g was a slower connection than your DSL.
I think that is what you were pointing out . . .
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If I follow your logic correctly, then it seems to me that your DSL speed is faster than the 3g signal you are getting on your phone at home. I say this because . .
1. When you tethered your computer to the phone to DSL via your Wifi router, you said it was fast.
2. When you lost your DSL and tethered the computer to phone using the 3g for internet access, it was slower.
3. So, based on that, than, for you, YES, 3g was a slower connection than your DSL.
I think that is what you were pointing out . . .
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#1 is invalid, that didn't happen.
#2 is what happened both times presumably.
#3 is variable depending on location, signal strength, network load, etc. and we don't know what his DSL speed is either. 3G can be faster than DSL.
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OMFG!! I didn't say I was connected via WiFi WHILE I was tethering, I said my phone is always on WiFi when I'm at home because of my wireless router.
OBVIOUSLY the incoming WiFi signal to the phone drops when you start tethering. Everyone knows this, or they should.
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No, that's not what you said. You said the opposite. Twice. I assume you mis-spoke and that isn't what you were trying to say.
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The other day, I tested the tethering on my phone, just for the hell of it. Disconnected my LAN connection on my computer, enabled the WiFi card, and started tethering, and it was great. Fast!!
Of course, I have a WiFi router and my phone is connected via WiFi, with Data turned off, so I'm used to fast data speeds on my phone.
Today, my DSL line went down, so I fired up tethering, and with no WiFi, I was only getting a 3G signal, and my internet connection to my computer was slow as hell.
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Look. You are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. So I'll lay this out real simple like.
1) You do not, did not, will not, and never have had you phone connected to your WiFi/DSL and simultaneously used WiFi Tether. It is not possible, never was possible, and never will be possible. So just stop trying to think like it happened or may have happened. Anything that may have appeared as such was nothing more than that... appearing as such. Not actual. Just seemed like.
2) Data transmission rate to/from the internet, regardless of what medium you used to connect (DSL, 3G, 4G, shotgun DS3's, whatever) will never be faster than that internet connection. Most home networking components are capable of a gigabit per second on the internal LAN and 54gbps on WiFi. But if you're talking to the internet, that data can only flow as fast as the 768k internet connection allows (for example). That means your internet data will go from your computer to the routers/switches, and out the modem at that rate (768k).
3) If you were indeed tethered on your first test that went "fast", then your 3G network connection was obviously quite nice. On the second try, your 3G network connection was obviously slower. That's what happens with 3G. Your DSL and WiFi has absolutely no bearing on this, at all, whatsoever, period.
I've got the speedtest.net broadband app on my SGS2. When I had my 10mb virgin media connection on my PC, I was getting 9.5mb wi-fi download speed on the phone's speedtest app when the phone is right next to my PC. VM have now switched me over to 60mb on my PC and the phone is now giving me 15.9mb wi-fi with speedtest. Is that the maximum the phone can do via wi-fi or should it be capable of closer to 60mb? Or am I meant to switch off wi-fi and go to wi-fi direct?
I've had close to 40 on mine are you using their superhub by anychance?
Juan Kerzhoff said:
I've had close to 40 on mine are you using their superhub by anychance?
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Hi matey, yes I am, it was just installed this morning. Took a while for my 10mb speed to actually switchover to 60mb.
Are you using normal wi-fi or wi-fi direct?
Lots of problems with those superhubs squire.. it's recommended if possible to set it up in modem mode and use your own router. Im just on normal wifi at the moment nothing special hub is on modem mode got my router set up pretty standard after much research on the virgin forums mind! It's worth having a look there for configurations but beware there is hundreds of posters complaining Also i did notice that various s2 modems determine the speed of your broadband through your wifi and i use the kh3 as i find it the quickest of all the ones i've tested.
Juan Kerzhoff said:
Lots of problems with those superhubs squire.. it's recommended if possible to set it up in modem mode and use your own router. Im just on normal wifi at the moment nothing special hub is on modem mode got my router set up pretty standard after much research on the virgin forums mind! It's worth having a look there for configurations but beware there is hundreds of posters complaining Also i did notice that various s2 modems determine the speed of your broadband through your wifi and i use the kh3 as i find it the quickest of all the ones i've tested.
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Hmm, interesting. How do I switch it to modem mode? I can setup my router again like I did with my previous VM cable modem and use the wi-fi from my own router if the superhub wi-fi is not up to the job. Having said that, I just did some wi-fi speed tests between my PC and laptop. Downloads speeds vary between 49 and 60mb, and one site reported my upload speed, but all the others couldn't read the upload speed.
What is the kh3 exactly?
Wow. In my country, 10Mbps is only by fibre... Average 3g connection is only 2Mbps
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Apologies for late reply squire. If your speedtests are reporting good speeds at your laptop then your hub sounds like its working ok so good news there However if you wanted to boot into modem mode you can access the hub by typing http://192.168.0.1 into your ie search bar and logging in with the standard username - admin and pass wich is set at -changeme these can be changed from within.. once switched to modem mode the address changes to http://192.168.0.100.
The KH3 is a modem for the S2 which seems to work very well for me you can read a bit more about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656005 page 3 has a direct download. It is worth trying a few different ones though as whats great for one maybe not so for another! Hope this helps.
Thanks Juan, great info. Yes, download speeds to laptop are great, but all but one of the speed test sites are not able to report my upload speed. They report them fine on my desktop though, and that's connected via ethernet cable. I suppose it might be the superhub or possibly my laptop causing the error. But anyway, since this a phone forum, I'm probably going too much off topic.
i have the phone with LTE and it works fast, connection can be as fast as 15Mbps download and 6Mbps upload, this is quicker than my home 3Mbps broadband.
I tried to activate WiFi hotspot and share this large bandwidth at home with other devices; my home PC and another android phone and i get slow connection under 1Mbps, yet my devices report no connection problem via WiFi and speed is 72Mbps.
Any idea whats the bottleneck or is it just poor WiFi hotspot on the phone?
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i have the phone with LTE and it works fast, connection can be as fast as 15Mbps download and 6Mbps upload, this is quicker than my home 3Mbps broadband.
I tried to activate WiFi hotspot and share this large bandwidth at home with other devices; my home PC and another android phone and i get slow connection under 1Mbps, yet my devices report no connection problem via WiFi and speed is 72Mbps.
Any idea whats the bottleneck or is it just poor WiFi hotspot on the phone?
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Have you called your provider? If it is cable you are on a shared connection with hundreds of others on a switch in your neighborhood.
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Sorry, didn't read post correctly. My bad
I never used the wifi hotshot with this device. Sorry again.
Re you Saying yor using tmobiles lte network
JaguarXT said:
Sorry, didn't read post correctly. My bad
I never used the wifi hotshot with this device. Sorry again.
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Are you sayinng your using T-mobiles USA's LTE network?
OP is from the UK.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement