Hi
My good old Pixel C stopped working (display not working anymore) so i'm looking for advise on what to buy instead ..... 95% of my tablet use is Clash of Clans, 5% web surfing and small apps.
Have been looking at the new Pixel Slate, but its running Chrome OS, and as far i have found, it is not always easy to have android apps running on Chrome OS. (SuperCell, producer of Clash of Clans, is also restricting user to run Clash of Clans on emulates and other devices than Non rooted android / IOS)
So i'm looking for a tablet with minimum 10" display, and have the power to run Clash of Clans. I have been looking at Samsung, and Huawei, but i'm actually considering buying a used Pixel C, for about 350 USD , is this totally crazy ?
fschlage said:
Hi
My good old Pixel C stopped working (display not working anymore) so i'm looking for advise on what to buy instead ..... 95% of my tablet use is Clash of Clans, 5% web surfing and small apps.
Have been looking at the new Pixel Slate, but its running Chrome OS, and as far i have found, it is not always easy to have android apps running on Chrome OS. (SuperCell, producer of Clash of Clans, is also restricting user to run Clash of Clans on emulates and other devices than Non rooted android / IOS)
So i'm looking for a tablet with minimum 10" display, and have the power to run Clash of Clans. I have been looking at Samsung, and Huawei, but i'm actually considering buying a used Pixel C, for about 350 USD , is this totally crazy ?
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I will happily opine that all these years later there isn't an overall clearly better tablet out there in Android land so far. There are tablets which do certain things better but none are obviously faster to the user, none are more premium in build, only a few have a better display, few or none have better battery, few or none have functional Pie roms, and if I'm not mistaken any new tablet that could compete on the main features will cost more than a used Pixel C.
I don't think you are crazy to consider it
At this point 350 seems a little steep.
On the other hand, my Galaxy Tab S3 will only charge when it's turned off because of supposed moisture in the port that apparently lasts forever. So the Pixel C has been my primary tablet. Although I like the S3s haptic feedback and GPS the Pixel C is still awesome.
I also wonder if it will be the last great tablet with a headphone jack.
You may not know that its price in China is only 850 yuan, equivalent to 122USD, of course, this is second-hand price.
Go even crazier, get a Nexus 9 like I did!
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im looking for opinions, i have a G2, so say i wanted to get a tablet also, what would be the point in getting one if you have an anroid phone with HSPA+/4G ? and whats the best tablet as far as performance and feautures
Theres alot of new droid tabs hitting the market soon so i would wait for a dual core with ffc and a nice manageable size to it. Thats my .02 tho
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im looking for opinions, i have a G2, so say i wanted to get a tablet also, what would be the point in getting one if you have an anroid phone with HSPA+/4G ? and whats the best tablet as far as performance and feautures
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personally, i dont see any point on getting a tablet, because the smartphones now are
powerfull enough to do almost anything a tablet can do, and tablets arnt powerfull enough
to run, lets a say a full linux distro with gnome or kde (or windows 7) ,and they are not any more portable than a laptop really.especially the ones with large screens like ipad or xoom. and
i dont care how good the on screen keyboards are ,i still WANT a proper keyboard (thats why i got a desire z) you can also have a look at Lenovo thinkpads they are kind of like a laptop and
tablet merge togher and you will have proper device that can run any os you wish which also
comes with multitouch screen. but they are not cheap. so to sum up i think tablets are so underpower so locked down
and arnt any more portable than a laptop and you will end up with a java machine (android) or apple ios which is even worse ,instead of a proper OS. sorry about the long post guy.
tablets make me angry
Like the guy above, I wasn't sold on the idea of tablets until recently. It depends on what you use your smartphone and home computer for. But since having a baby recently, my wife and I have found ourselves at home more than before, and wanting to be able to do things like check email or lookup things on the internet without being stuck at a desk, or having a big laptop weighing you down while sitting on the couch. We found ourselves using our smartphones a lot, such as resting on the couch while the baby was sleeping. Which works just fine. But having a tablet gives you a much larger screen, which makes for more more pleasurable experience due to a larger screen to browse websites, watch video, etc. Its also makes the touch interface for many tasks much more usable. Using a tablet as an e-reader also makes much more sense than on a phone. Its closer to the experience of reading a "real" paper book, where you see a whole page, instead of just a fraction of one (forcing you to flip to the next screen really frequently).
Some people like to tote their tablets around everywhere. That isn't me, so far. I mostly use it at home. And when I'm at home, I use it more than either my smartphone or my desktop/laptop computers (although some people have been going this route). You probably would not find a tablet a suitable replacement for a desktop/laptop computer. As mentioned, they just aren't as powerful or versatile, and a more limited software selection. A tablet does what your smartphone does, just with a bigger screen. So if you find yourself using your smartphone and frequently wishing that you had a much larger screen, then a tablet might be fore you.
The tablet I have is the HTC Flyer, since I love the build quality of HTC's products. Its a 7" screen tablet, with Gingerbread (supposedly to be updated to HOneycomb "soon"). Not dual core, but its got a snappy 1.5 GHz single core Snapdragon. Its a great device, but HTC will also coming out with a 10" tablet later this year, so that one will be worth checking out, also. The ideal size for a tablet is a topic of much debate. The common tablet sizes now are 7" and 10", with the debate being primarily about having a larger screen versus the portability of a 7". Again, it mostly comes down to personal preference, and your intended usage.
The posters above me have very valid points. I too would like a tablet simply because, as stated above, I find myself not wanting to lug around my laptop. I'm not doing anything that warrants using a laptop like writing long emails, gaming, etc. I'm mostly sitting on the couch or lying in bed playing around on XDA or reading blogs or the like. I don't need this giant thing sitting on my lap heating my junk and lowering my sperm count! I love it, but I would like something else for this purpose. That being said I would wait for at least the holiday season or next year to see what's coming out. There are some good ones on the way, but I'd like to see them either come down in price or when they do come out, seeing the current ones come down in price.
Yeah everyone makes a good point here, if it a tablet had everything like sd card slot headphone jack etc plus a hardrive(or at least a port to connect an external hard drive) so you could say burn discs or download stuff that you couldn't on your phone and connect your phone to the tablet and transfer via usb. That'd be a nice tablet
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if it a tablet had everything like sd card slot headphone jack etc plus a hardrive(or at least a port to connect an external hard drive) so you could say burn discs
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If you mean a CD/DVD burner/reader, that's an optical drive, not a hard drive. Which are starting to become pretty irrelevant. With online distribution of games and movies, I hardly ever find myself using my optical drive.
oh **** hahah thats what I meant but I wasnt sure
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@heybobitsme ,redpoint73
You both have valid points ,but firstly not all laptops are giant, i have a 13" laptop
which is pretty light and i use it when in front of tv as well ,and it doesnt heat up if
i am doing the tasks that you do on your tablets.I take it with me everywhere and it has a very good battery life but at the same time, i play Crysis 2 on it when i am on the train. could i do that with a tablet?
however i do get your point. what i dont like is some poeple keep saying
tablets are the way forward and you dont need a pc anymore. lets face it
none of the mobile OSs around are good . i use android on my phone because the only other
options are win7 or ios, well at least android is opensource (usually).
But yeah they are just giant phones.
I don't see how they are useful or innovative at all, but that is largely dependent upon your needs as a user, and I do realize that there are situations where a tablet might come in more handy than a phone or laptop... I just don't think those few situations warrant toting around another $500+ device.
I have a company-provided iPad, my G2, a 15" laptop and a desktop... the iPad sees use maybe once every month. there are VERY few instances, for me, where a tablet has a specific advantage over one of my other devices that warrants busting it out... for instance:
-if I'm working on my car, it's nice to have the iPad laying around with a shop manual loaded... can't do that on my G2 because it's too small and I have to scroll too often. could do it on the laptop, but the touchscreen on the iPad is pretty slick for swiping through pages and whatnot.
-it's decent for taking notes in meetings/at school IF you have an external keyboard. I still don't think touchscreens are viable replacements for physical keyboards at this point if you're going to be typing a lot. even still, I prefer using my laptop for this.
and, on a side note, completely unrelated to the function of a tablet... how much of a tool do you look like walking around with a 10" glorified smartphone? I just think it's a silly fad that will die out. I mean, come on, I don't even have a usb port on my iPad... what good does that do me?
for me to seriously consider purchasing a tablet, they would need:
-sd card reader
-full-size usb ports (at least 2); usb host [of course]
-better printing capability (I know there have been some strides made here, but it's still not seamless enough for it to be useful in a professional setting)
-a few other things would be nice, but the above are most important to me
also, a "sliding" tablet with a physical keyboard built in would be killer.
Yeah I hate when htc and such puts out really good phones with no physical keyboard....
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@heybobitsme ,redpoint73
You both have valid points ,but firstly not all laptops are giant, i have a 13" laptop
which is pretty light and i use it when in front of tv as well ,and it doesnt heat up if
i am doing the tasks that you do on your tablets.I take it with me everywhere and it has a very good battery life but at the same time, i play Crysis 2 on it when i am on the train. could i do that with a tablet?
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Sure, not all laptops are giant, but they are still much bigger and heavier than tablets, especially 7" tablets. I can be laying in bed, or on the couch, and have my Flyer sitting on my chest, reading an e-book, web browsing, or whatever. But of course, that situation, if it even applies to you, may not be reason enough to buy an additional electronic device.
I don't look at the tablet as being a replacement for a desktop or laptop computer, but as an additional device. I love me some PC gaming, and I do that on my desktop PC. I have a work provided laptop also. All these different computer devices get used for different things.
As I mentioned before, it all depends on your personal preference, lifestyle, and how you use your devices. In your case, if you have a smartphone, and a smaller laptop, I can easily see how those satisfy all the situations you encounter in your life. But for those looking for a device to fill the gaps, a tablet can be just that.
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Sure, not all laptops are giant, but they are still much bigger and heavier than tablets, especially 7" tablets. I can be laying in bed, or on the couch, and have my Flyer sitting on my chest, reading an e-book, web browsing, or whatever. But of course, that situation, if it even applies to you, may not be reason enough to buy an additional electronic device.
I don't look at the tablet as being a replacement for a desktop or laptop computer, but as an additional device. I love me some PC gaming, and I do that on my desktop PC. I have a work provided laptop also. All these different computer devices get used for different things.
As I mentioned before, it all depends on your personal preference, lifestyle, and how you use your devices. In your case, if you have a smartphone, and a smaller laptop, I can easily see how those satisfy all the situations you encounter in your life. But for those looking for a device to fill the gaps, a tablet can be just that.
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You are absolutely right, using the tablet for the things you said make sense .
but in my case it would just make me mad .because i have this habit that i always have
10-15 applications and lots of tabs open in different work spaces, even when i am not doing anything special.
and the other thing is now all this new tablets are coming out with dual-core and more rams and everyone going crazy over them ,the problem is they dont bring new functionalities because the software on them are basically the same ,they just do the same thing a little
faster and smoother. the only points that i see in tables now are some of the things the things you mentioned and all them can be done on a cheap $100 tablet ,so now what is the point of very expensive tablets with dual-core?, i still wont be able to multi task properly with android,ios,etc (HPs web os looked a bit better though) id rather use the $500-600 on upgrading my laptop or desktop.
Yeah, I can see how a tablet is probably not for you. Desktop or laptop PCs will not be replaced by tablets anytime soon. You simply can't use a tablet to do things like composing long emails or other documents, playing higher powered games, and utilizing complex software (like in my case, AutoCAD). Basically, tablets are good for web browsing and consuming media via a touch interface, and using simple apps. And that's really about it.
Hello.
I'm looking to buy a new phone and HTC One X looks like a decent option.
I currently own a XPERIA Mini Pro by Sony Ericsson and it had served me quite nice for more than a year now.
I'm not really "power-hungry", but I like playing games on my smartphone. I usually play games like GTA VC and Minecraft PE, which run surprisingly well on my overclocked xperia.
After reading quite a few reviews about HTC One X on the internet, I have some questions:
Is the phone overheating?
Had your device ever rebooted by itself?
Is the phone too big to hold and use with just one hand? (keep in mind that I'm coming from a 3" phone)
How's the general performance of the stock ROM with Sense? Does it lag sometimes? Is installing custom ROM a must?
What's your gaming experience with the device?
How's the battery life? Can it hold for at least a day?
And finally, what's your general opinion about the device? Is it worth buying now, or should I wait for something new? (ignoring One X+, that's not what I call an upgrade)
Buying HTC One X
How much of a hurry are you in? This is like new phone season, or will be soon. Probably a few phones to be released at Mobile World Congress (end of this month I think) then available to buy maybe 6 to 8 weks later.
Having said that I am very happy with my One X (although my usage habits are very different than yours (not much gaming).
Is the phone overheating?
No
Had your device ever rebooted by itself?
I had a problem with this for about a month, but after latest OTA not anymore except when I put it n my jeans pocket
Is the phone too big to hold and use with just one hand? (keep in mind that I'm coming from a 3" phone)
For me yes a little, but you get used to it fast
How's the general performance of the stock ROM with Sense? Does it lag sometimes? Is installing custom ROM a must?
No lag for me, I'm ok with sense, I like their peripheral apps very much (mail, calendar, etc) but I use Apex launcher to customize the home screen etc.
What's your gaming experience with the device?
Hah, just backgammon and chess
How's the battery life? Can it hold for at least a day?
For me yes
If you play games its normal to become a little bit hot, stock is ok, but I always go for custom roms, no reboots, you'll probably need a week or two to get used to its size, and there's no way the battery will last full day if you play games. And yes, if the price is good go for it.
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Yeah its a good phone, if you manage to buy one with super CID it will be an excellent phone.
is the phone overheating?
it gets quit hot sometimes (after playing a half hour temple run you can feel the phone in your pocket because of the temperature)
had your device ever rebooted itself?
no
is the phone to big?
definitely not, i think it's the perfect size. i can reach the whole screen with one hand and because of its thickness it fits easily in your pocket
general performance with sense:
seems pretty good as long as you don't play games. everything else works smooth and loads fast.
gaming experience:
bad. very bad. although the one x has much potential many games have problems with the tegra 3: temple run 2 doesn't run as fluid as on the sgs2 or sgs3, beach buggy blitz also has sometimes framedrops. there is a gaming-boost app for this but, although most of the games run better after that they are still not completly smooth.
battery life:
it depends. standby almost drains nothing because of the 5th companion core but if you play games it will drain the battery in 2 hours of active use. i can make it from 7am till 3-5pm with one charge if i play a lot. you could say a charge is enough for 1hr browsing/news 45min youtube 45min gaming and 20min call
i don't think it's worth buying it now because like someone else already said we will see a lot of new phones at the end of this month and prices for older models will drop after new ones have been announced/released. i personally am happy with my purchase. if you hate glossy plastic like i do this is the device for you!
ps: you should inspect your device for any damages as soon as you get it, my first one had a small white scratch on the backside near the dock-dots (no problem on the white one but it will drive you crazy if you have a gray version) and the black ring around the camera was slightly misplaced.
one more thing: htc released the jelly bean kernel sources today, so if you're into flashing you can expect better jelly bean roms and new kernels in a short manner of time.
Buy Nexus.
I am a HTC One X Owner.
if you want the best Software and gaming experiance its relly fast and without sense **** . and for the big screens this is super easy in a week you going to be a new guy and you not be able to touch phones under 4 inch
Best buy go for it
I decided not to get a keyboard at least for now.
I am using the Pixel C to stream media, play videos, read books, and play games.
I believe the keyboard would just get in the way.
Anybody else going tablet only ?
Is there some reason I should reconsider and buy a keyboard ?
AstroDigital said:
I decided not to get a keyboard at least for now.
I am using the Pixel C to stream media, play videos, read books, and play games.
I believe the keyboard would just get in the way.
Anybody else going tablet only ?
Is there some reason I should reconsider and buy a keyboard ?
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Haven't picked one up myself, but when I do, I will most likely be going tablet only, as my use cases are pretty much the same as yours. I don't need a tablet for productivity. If I need to type a paper or massively long emails, I'll use my laptop. If I need a keyboard, my $20 Anker BT slim keyboard should work just fine.
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Haven't picked one up myself, but when I do, I will most likely be going tablet only, as my use cases are pretty much the same as yours. I don't need a tablet for productivity. If I need to type a paper or massively long emails, I'll use my laptop. If I need a keyboard, my $20 Anker BT slim keyboard should work just fine.
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+1
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Same here, and doubt I'll pick it up. It's definitely a media consumption device for me rather than for creating. My 13" laptop is portable enough for creative stuff on the go and (should I need both) my Everyday Messenger Bag has slots for each.
Went tablet only here as well and LOVE this thing so far. Used it over the wee-end for some Netflix, YouTube, casual browsing, news reading and casual gaming (i.e. candy crush and the like). I might get the keyboard if they lower the price point a bit (200 CAD is pretty pricey for a keyboard tbh, hoping they'll have some sort of boxing day deal on the Play store maybe?) but really, what I wanted is a good, 10 inch, pure Android tablet and Google definitely delivered. The only 2 things I can sort of complain about so far is that the speakers kinda suck and the screen is a tadbit on the pink side for my taste but not a deal breaker for me, I am keeping the tablet for sure.
Battery wise, was at 100% Sat morning and 43% on Sunday evening, no complaints regarding battery life here (much better than what my N9 could do on Lollipop or even on Marshmallow).
I will do the same, no keyboard for me! Will use the Pixel C for some gaming, videos, web and reddit. I really hope Google will sell this device to Sweden
Tablet only as well
Mainly for gaming and dinking around on the net and what not
I need a screen protector for sure though. And a folio case of some kind to just use to kick stand it and support some of the top heavy weight while holding it and gaming lol.
Had it gaming for 4.5hrs straight on Marvel Future Fight before it needed to be plugged in lol
Hmm, so I am the only 'dumb' guy here, with the expensive keyboard? Well, I don't have a laptop and use it with ownnote and other typing stuff.
The magnetic system is neat too, the pix wakes up if you relocate the keyboard to the tablet and its very stable and doesn't detach by itself.
As for youtube and so on, I found out that its pretty convenient to lay it down on the chest with the attached keyboard.
Sure if you have a dedicated notebook, that keyboard is likely far too expensive.
Going to revive this thread because this is exactly what i came here looking for. My office computer is an always-on Windows 7 desktop. I've got the 2nd gen Chromebook Pixel, which ends up being my primary computer. I use CRD to access my office computer whenever I need something Chrome doesn't provide, which is really not that often. I've been very tempted by the Pixel C since it was announced, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. With the 25% off option, I'm right on the cusp of doing it.
I rocked the Nexus 7s (both iterations) for years and loved having those. My '13 was one of the unlucky models to suffer the Lollipop brick issue, and I've been without a tablet since. I would love another Android tablet, especially something high-end like my CB Pixel. Obviously, this one fits the bill.
I'm curious if people are still running around without keyboards and no second thoughts. I can't help but think that, if I were to get the keyboard, I would end up with a lot of redundancy between the two Pixel devices. I'd love to hear thoughts.
Android tablets are everywhere. There are many makers in many price ranges. The KingPad 100 Android Tablet is a 10-inch tablet in the $100 range which makes it more budget friendly and you don’t sacrifice too much on performance.
The Specs:
Quad-Core CPU — 4X Cortex A7
10 inch IPS Display with 1366×768 Resolution
802.11bgn, Bluetooth
16 GB of storage
1 gig of RAM
Android 4.4 KitKat
178-degree view angle
2.0MP rear camera and a 2.0MP front camera with auto focus
As the specs show there are more powerful tablets out there but you are going to pay for that. The KingPad 100 Android Tablet does come with Google Play installed so access is as easy as you would expect. Being that this is running KitKat 4.4 you have access to most but not all apps in the Play Store. I can’t say I was missing anything in what I use an Android tablet for. It handles email, video and music pretty well. I also played my games of poker, Clash of Clans and a couple other games without issue. My son spent a lot of time on YouTube and never complained once while on the tablet either.
You get your standard Wi-Fi and Bluetooth with the KingPad 100 Android Tablet. It is Wi-Fi BGN and not AC but it works well. Pairing a Bluetooth speaker works as expected and the sound is on par with other devices I have paired to the same speaker. I also got a pretty simple case with the KingPad 100 Android Tablet but it protects the tablet and allows for access to all the needed buttons. My son did have some issues with the K100 tablet case though.
The screen resolution is not great but again for the uses my son and I put it through, it works. On other tablets the screen is crisper (1080p in most cases) but then again you are doubling if not tripling your cost especially for a 10 inch tablet. If you are like me, no matter the tablet, I don’t run too many apps at the same time. If you keep just a couple apps to just the one app you are using open performance is fine. If you do let a bunch of apps run, as my son does, you will see the limits of the quad core and 1 gig of ram. Storage is not great at 16 gigs but the beauty of Android and most Android tablets have an SD card slot. I threw a 32 gig into this and it worked fine here.
So all and all for a sub $100 tablet the KingPad 100 Android Tablet is not bad. I like the bigger screen. It is nice for my son to watch his videos and it isn’t too expensive. I wish it had Android Marshmallow 6.0 and think it would run well but for my normal use this works. Now the cameras which usually are pretty poor on a tablet are subpar here, useful for just Skype and other video but they wouldn’t take quality pictures that you would really want to use anywhere in my opinion.
3.5 stars…it is a little underpowered but you can manage that. KitKat is disappointing when you have used Android 6.0 but it works.
If you are looking for a sub-$100 tablet that is 10.1" you can consider the KingPad 100 Android Tablet a decent one, just know you are getting KitKat not the latest Android OS versions, and it has it's limits, but still better than most of the $50-$60 budget tablets out there.
I am on a Galaxy S7 and am considering an upgrade to the S9.
At this point the obvious question for me to consider is how it compares to the Pixel 3? Curious if any S9 owners have tried the Pixel 3 for comparison yet?
I love the look of the Galaxy S9 but I have noticed that over time my older Galaxy definitely started to lag more, with battery life deterioration and a lot of "OS Usage" drain going on in the background.
While I dont love the look of the Pixel 3, I have heard that this is where Pixels are strongest: more efficient battery and snappier performance due to pure OS experience.
I know they are new, but if anyone has experiences with both of these great phones, I would love any perspectives!
Going by the problems of the Pixel 3 already, I'd go with the S9.
Bad speakers, camera not saving pictures, very scratch/mark prone rear glass, memory management issues, dropped calls...Pixel 3 isn't a good phone.
I got so pissed off with my multiple pixel 2s that I traded for an S9. I don't trust their quality control at all.
Just need to follow a couple of Android twitter accounts to see just how many bugs the Pixels have, the P2 was full of them and the P3 is following in it's footsteps, even the same bugs from the P2 are in the P3
Would not touch them
Pixel 3 line seems like a problem waiting to happen, and we are hearing about those every day.
The Galaxy s9 Plus is a fantastic phone with so much more then the Pixel 3 XL
You get the full fledged Samsung Super AMOLED panel screen that is an amazing display! Yes Pixel 3 XL uses a Samsung, but It's pretty obviously a lower level panel just by the blue hue we see at an angle view. You do not see that on the s9
Great duel cameras that got an extremely good score at DxOMark, for a reason, it's a top end camera.
SD Card Slot
Headphone Jack
Stereo Speakers
Basically water proof
Wireless charging at 10w on all compatible QI 10w stations, not just the $80 google rip-off charger.
(what, it does a picture screen saver and listens to you? Pfffft!!)
Now, s9 weakness and what to do:
software can be slow, don't use the launcher, get Nova Launcher Prime, turn off auto bixby, use bxActions to remap the button, and Package Disabler Pro + to remove any bloatware left, but I'm telling you most the stuff can be removed and or disabled already. All no root!
DEX is on board and now available though a $19 adapter from Amazon, not that you'll use it but it is pretty nice for at home.
Now what I believe is the biggest and most troubling issue is the pixel's only 4GB's of RAM. That's just not enough!
On my s9 Plus, I run music "Deezer" in the background, going to the duel Bluetooth speakers, while using all my Social Media apps, Instagram, twitter, FB(in browser) Messenger(DISA) and play Lineage 2 Revolution! I toggle back and forth and even keep online in the game.
Pixel just Aint gonna do that!
Oh, and that reminds me, a good question for anyone that has the pix3XL have they set up the duel Bluetooth Speaker connection yet?
I don't mean some third party like JBL, which works okay, but the actual OS that connects to duel BT speakers! Yes Samsung did it!
I really can't stress to you or anyone enough, how much better the Samsung hardware and experience is over this idea that pure is best.
Why be a beta tester up to the point we all get the new Android OS anyways?