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International Unlocked Note 7 with AT&T

First and foremost, I'm a noob.
Anyways, I'm giving this whole Android thing a go for the third time. I had an S7 and an S7 Edge, both were great phones but they were also carrier versions. I've owned pretty much everything Apple and coming to the realization that Apple is dropping the ball. It's time to switch it up.
I ordered an International Unlocked 930F Note 7 and I'm currently with AT&T. After researching, I'm aware that I'll be losing a few things like Samsung Pay and VoLTE. Few questions I have: When the Note comes in the mail, shall I remove the SIM out of my iPhone SE and insert it into the new phone? Or go to an AT&T store and ask for another SIM?
Your feedback/suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Someone will correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe you will lose Samsung Pay. It should work. And yes, just plug your SIM (if its a nano) and go. I plan on getting the same phone and I had the S7 Edge international version and it worked fine on AT&T. I never tried Samsung pay though.

Thanks for the quick reply.
Not too worried about Samsung Pay, as I don't even use Apple Pay. But the VoLTE is what I'm mainly concerned about.
Also what about visual voicemail? I understand it can be downloaded from Google Play, but will it still work and keep my same greeting, etc..?
Brings me to next question: Samsungs website offers the micro SD card as a free gift when purchasing the phone, do you know if they honor purchases from eBay and/or international devices?

Yeah I don't use Samsung pay either. Not sure about VoLTE.
Visual voice mail works fine. Just download the app from the Play Store like you said but not sure about the greeting. Don't know if that stored in the app or on AT&T's server.
From what I've been reading, when you register your phone, regardless of where you got it, you will be able to take advantage of the current promotion. LETS HOPE!

Samsung pay should still work, and so will the VVM app from the play store.
Eventually if a root/flashing method should come out for the international model which could let you flash over AT&T stuff such as HD voice. Not 100% sure on that but maybe someone else can verify that.
When you get the phone, go to the store and ask for a sim.
As for the free gift, it only applies if you buy it from a carrier store, or certain stores. I'm assuming the guy you bought it from already got the promo gift from Samsung. If you really want it maybe cancel the eBay order and get it from Samsung.

As far as I know you can't buy the international version straight from Samsung. If that would have been an option, I'd been all over that.
Would the SIM in my iPhone not work?

Seems you may be right, the only options I see on their site are carrier models. If you go to the promotion site though, they have an option for "other" retailers so you can try with your eBay invoice as proof of purchase.

I like where your heads at.
I suppose what I can do with the SIM is try swapping it into the Note and if it doesn't work, go to the store.

mattjewell said:
I like where your heads at.
I suppose what I can do with the SIM is try swapping it into the Note and if it doesn't work, go to the store.
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I'll pop in with a lil info for you. I use a international Note 4 on AT&T now with zero issues. A few reasons why I went with this version instead of a carrier branded phone. First one was the unlocked bootloader, since the AT&T version was locked up and still locked to this day. My 4 still works perfectly fine with a custom S7/Note 7 Rom on it. So you decide if you want it..
Now in regards to the crapple sim going into the N7, if I'm not mistaken you're going to have to get that changed from the crapple set-up. Think they need to put it back to regular data or whatever all the other phones use. You know it's always something special with crapple! I would say try the sim if no data you'll know why.
Good luck
Bajan

mattjewell said:
I like where your heads at.
I suppose what I can do with the SIM is try swapping it into the Note and if it doesn't work, go to the store.
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As mentioned above, I believe Apple uses different settings for data with their sim cards. When my brother switched from a 4S to Android he had to get a new card. I also just got his LTE working for him by contacting support and registering his Sim card with the one I from a store display phone. I just took a picture of the IMEI of an S7 in store and used the "ATT Phone" APN settings. The NXTGENPHONE APN will not work for some reason when I tried it.

cadcamaro said:
As mentioned above, I believe Apple uses different settings for data with their sim cards. When my brother switched from a 4S to Android he had to get a new card. I also just got his LTE working for him by contacting support and registering his Sim card with the one I from a store display phone. I just took a picture of the IMEI of an S7 in store and used the "ATT Phone" APN settings. The NXTGENPHONE APN will not work for some reason when I tried it.
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While I'm at the store, I'll snap a pic of the back of an S7 as well just to be safe. Can you clarify "ATT Phone" in the APN settings? Where is this located?

Go into the phone settings and get the IMEI and IMEISV
I needed both when talking to tech support.
As for the APN I used the same ones as the OP from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/verizon-s7-edge-sm-g935v-att-lte-tip-t3429897

T-Mobile and ESIMS

I just got an unlocked Pixel 3XL from Google. Has anyone been able to use an eSim for T-Mobile either with the Pixel 2 or 3? I just called T-Mobile and they tried activating it but I guess it did not work and now I have no service.

homegeek said:
I just got an unlocked Pixel 3XL from Google. Has anyone been able to use an eSim for T-Mobile either with the Pixel 2 or 3? I just called T-Mobile and they tried activating it but I guess it did not work and now I have no service.
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The E-sim should only work if you have project fi

danon.brown said:
The E-sim should only work if you have project fi
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Is that a Google issue or T-Mobile? The reason I ask is Apple devices now include esims and T-Mobile is getting ready to support it for those devices.

It's T-Mobile...

homegeek said:
Is that a Google issue or T-Mobile? The reason I ask is Apple devices now include esims and T-Mobile is getting ready to support it for those devices.
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TMobile. If you were to put a Sim card in your services would work.

danon.brown said:
The E-sim should only work if you have project fi
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I don't think that's true for the Pixel 3. When you set the phone up it says you can use the eSIM with any compatible carrier (and then I believe gave a URL to check carriers who supported e-SIM).

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TMobile. If you were to put a Sim card in your services would work.
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Absolutely correct. I confirmed this with a google rep and a T-Mobile rep. The esim is unlocked for use with any carrier that supports it. T-mobile, does not.

To this point no US carrier supports the eSIM, other than Project Fi. I confirmed this with Google yesterday.
Allegedly, all 4 US carriers are going to support it, but no word on when.

True, the carriers have been dragging their feet since esim's were announced!

uicnren said:
To this point no US carrier supports the eSIM, other than Project Fi. I confirmed this with Google yesterday.
Allegedly, all 4 US carriers are going to support it, but no word on when.
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This is going to change very very shortly with the release of iOS 12.1 and its support for eSIM on iPhone XS. In USA TMO, ATT and Verizon will support eSIM with bar codes.. hopefully QR codes will work with Pixel 3 given this is a GSMA standard.
All the carriers Apple announced will do eSIM around the world:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209096

bartolo5 said:
This is going to change very very shortly with the release of iOS 12.1 and its support for eSIM on iPhone XS. In USA TMO, ATT and Verizon will support eSIM with bar codes.. hopefully QR codes will work with Pixel 3 given this is a GSMA standard.
All the carriers Apple announced will do eSIM around the world:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209096
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*HOPEFULLY

I called Verizon today and rep didn't have any idea on what is eSim I just wasted my time... He claiming that he called Google and they told him eSim is not supported yet on Pixel 3 lol

unsungzero1027 said:
Absolutely correct. I confirmed this with a google rep and a T-Mobile rep. The esim is unlocked for use with any carrier that supports it. T-mobile, does not.
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I hope they will start supporting it since Tmobile and Google are now in a partnership.

eSIM - How to activate?

Hello XDA members,
I received (gift) a brand new Google Pixel 3XL phone and I wondering about eSIM support. I can´t find any settings related to this. I saw some articles about Verizon version which do not have this opportunity. Anyway I have two questions:
How I can find version of my phone - Verizon or other?
Is it possible to somehow enable eSIM support for Verizon phones?
Thank you.

I believe your carrier has to activate it, not you. That's how it works for me with project Fi.

I know that the Google version MEID stars with 99 and I think Verizon starts with 98. I don't know if there is a Google fi version or if they just use the Google version.
As far as esim capabilities. The carrier has to activate it on their system and then you download the esim onto your phone to tell it what towers to connect to.
AFAIK Verizon still does not support esim on the pixel yet. I tried to activate it in February on esim and the guy at the store tried multiple times to get the pixel esim ID into the system but it wouldn't even accept all of the digits. Again that was in February so i 'guess' things could have changed but I highly doubt it as the guy at the store called customer service and they mentioned that eventually they will support it but it was not high on their priority list.
Good luck

Question Using an eSim without a physical Sim on AT&T

Hi, I'm trying to use an eSim only (without inserting a physical sim) on my pixel 6 pro on AT&T, however I cannot get it to work. When I say not get it to work, I mean with eSim only there is no cell signal and no data signal. Physical sim works fine on both signal and cellular service. If there's another Us AT&T pixel 6 pro user who's using only the eSIM for service please respond and let me know whether or not eSim only works for you. Thanks.

Not an AT&T user here, am using a European carrier, just from anecdotal perspective: I also use eSim only and never had an issue on my P6 Pro. So it appears to be something carrier related.
I remember that I had to activate my eSim, maybe you also have to do this? Did you try out the eSim/your contract before using this phone?

Morgrain said:
Not an AT&T user here, am using a European carrier, just from anecdotal perspective: I also use eSim only and never had an issue on my P6 Pro. So it appears to be something carrier related.
I remember that I had to activate my eSim, maybe you also have to do this? Did you try out the eSim/your contract before using this phone?
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Yes, I tried 3 times with the help of AT&T and we couldn't get it to work. I'm going to return the device for a new replacement to see if that fixes this issue. Thanks for replying.

d.cortez said:
Yes, I tried 3 times with the help of AT&T and we couldn't get it to work. I'm going to return the device for a new replacement to see if that fixes this issue. Thanks for replying.
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Before going through the hassle of returning the device for a potential fault - do you have a family member or friend, whose simcard/esim you could try out? That way you can find out if your phone truly has a defect or if its your contract/the specific esim. Of course you can always let them replace your device, but that will take a couple days, maybe there are faster ways to narrow the problem down.

Morgrain said:
Before going through the hassle of returning the device for a potential fault - do you have a family member or friend, whose simcard/esim you could try out? That way you can find out if your phone truly has a defect or if its your contract/the specific esim. Of course you can always let them replace your device, but that will take a couple days, maybe there are faster ways to narrow the problem down.
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i tried again today at another AT&T corp store and walked out of the store with it working as expected (wait till the end). the person helping did additional research on my issue and discovered the P6P shipped to me "was not activated" with the inserted physical sim (which i removed when i received the device). apparently, AT&T will park (or associate) a new device with a specific number when shipping to you vs. walking in to buy a device on an existing line. nonetheless, i'm going to return the phone because the data connection isn't working consistently; data is on and then after i go to website, data turns off. i'm probably going to send it back to AT&T next week.

Finally got the phone working, but will get an unlocked version later; this one is still going back to ATT.

I'm using an ESIM on AT&t and even originally got the phone My plan was to have a physical TracFone SIM card and my AT&t esim which is exactly what I had on my Pixel 5 and it worked great. Both SIM cards work great... when the other ones not active or inserted. It is impossible to use with both SIM cards like I did on my Pixel 5. Constant signal loss and the majority of the time. No signal at all. But as soon as I deactivate or remove a SIM card it starts working perfect.

I had a problem with provisioning eSim on my TMobile, well technically its sprint still, says tmobile esim but I am on sprint billing. Anyways, you need to maybe try to do it on another WiFi access point or something. I had issues with mine activating over Viasat2 satellite internet. I live in that area, its either LTE or satellite for internet. Had to tether to my work verizon phone to activate it on sprint/tmobile lol. If the connectivity to the esim server is not great, you'll split hairs until it is.

spawn985 said:
I'm using an ESIM on AT&t and even originally got the phone My plan was to have a physical TracFone SIM card and my AT&t esim which is exactly what I had on my Pixel 5 and it worked great. Both SIM cards work great... when the other ones not active or inserted. It is impossible to use with both SIM cards like I did on my Pixel 5. Constant signal loss and the majority of the time. No signal at all. But as soon as I deactivate or remove a SIM card it starts working perfect.
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Exactly the same issue/behavior I had with my AT&T P6P on the AT&T network so I returned mine today. I'm contemplating a Fi version to see if it works for my use case.

Question Is Esim enabled at launch in the USA?

Just need to confirm that Esim is enabled in the USA at launch. The fold 3 fiasco with Esim has me doubting, so need to confirm prior to ordering

I think it's safe to say yes as the S22 Ultra worked out of the box.
It BETTER be FFS!

Samsung has a mixed bag on this and the last fold did not work dual sim

They announced esim is available

Went to Best buy today to play with one. Flip 4 had Sim manager in the connections settings. Fold 4 did not. Guess will try a different best buy lol

zapote21 said:
Went to Best buy today to play with one. Flip 4 had Sim manager in the connections settings. Fold 4 did not. Guess will try a different best buy lol
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I think this may be carrier specific.
My Flip3 that I got from Verzion in June did NOT have sim manager. I flashed an unlocked ROM and got it.
If it doesn't have it out of the box (unlocked), that is going to make some heads roll, I will tell you that.

cpufrost said:
I think it's safe to say yes as the S22 Ultra worked out of the box.
It BETTER be FFS!
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Fold 3 didnt.

zapote21 said:
Fold 3 didnt.
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Yes and neither did the S21 Ultra and Flip 3.
At this point in the game I would be very surprised if any Samsung flagship didn't have it out of the box.

Well, pre ordered today. Lets hope...lol

I went on BestBuy's site, and had a chat with a 'geek' named Olivia. They sell the TMO locked version ( I bought the unlocked, but plan to have TMO SIM in it, so my bet it will boot into a TMO environment like the locked ones). As per very SPECIFIC questions I was told that the Fold 4 supports eSIM. I asked in three ways , and 2 out of the three questions were , in short. a 'YES' , the fold 4 US version under TMO will support eSIM to cover non TMO USA territories. The third question, if she can tell me if the menu under setting->connections have a SIM manager menu, was ignored.
Did I learn something new? NO. Do I know eSIM is supported? NOT SURE. I guess we will know around August 24th to 26th when the pre-orders from Samsung come in... Or maybe someone who got his AMAZON order maybe kind enough and share if the menu indeed exists..
My fear, before entering a TMO SIM, it will be there, and as soon as a TMO SIM will be entered, the menu will be gone... I have no doubt Samsung has the hardware. I will check the setting BEFORE I place the TMO SIM and will see...

Best Buy's chat support are either AI bots or 3rd world employees being paid $1/day. I wouldn't put any faith in them whatsoever. They're about as reliable as Samsung chat support.

Also beware in order to use embedded sim the device cannot be locked to a different carrier. For example if you have TMO and buy a device from them on EIP, it will be locked to them. It should work with two lines but not with Verizon or ATT. The only exception is if you pay in full and wait 45 days for them to approve an unlock request. Of course if paying cash it makes sense to buy unlocked in the first place. ;-)

Yeah, I am fully aware they know nothing of the devices they sell.. and I am well aware this is for fully purchased TMO devices. I did speak to a real person, and I did not get the answers I trust to be the truth.. I really hope SOMEONE who got his unlocked device from Amazon already will share his experience. With all the things I bought in my life at Best Buy, service and warranty by their 'Geek' squad was never something I paid for..

Man, I currently use eSim on my S21 that I am trading in. You guys got me nervous that i won't be able to setup my Fold 4 when i get it haha. I might need to order a TMO sim just in case lol.

Confirmed by TMO at a US store that the TMO version has Esim enabled. Saw it myself with a TMO sim inserted

zapote21 said:
Confirmed by TMO at a US store that the TMO version has Esim enabled. Saw it myself with a TMO sim inserted
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Confirmed for T-Mobile i just enabled my Esim.

Yup. I did mine yesterday when I got my Fold

When I got mine yesterday, I had to insert the sim card from the Fold3, then go online to chat with a rep to get it activated. Tmobile device.

Wow, in the UK, all I did was 'Transfer e-Sim" on EE's site/app and plonk away it went after scanning the QR. My watch 4 to watch 5 e-sim swap however.....

Just want to clarify....
Esim is live for T-Mobile only..
Atnt straight talk and Verizon don't connect, they can't. I've been told by Samsung directly to wait for an update like the fold 3 for esim support to go live for them...
Came from a OnePlus 8 pro running atnt and Verizon and was slapped in the face when I found out this 0hones 1sim+1esim I was under the assumption the unlocked one was going to be dual sim..
So I'm trying to deal with Verizon through sim card for the time being. Verizon also doesn't have a slightest clue what my device is either, it read the 8 pro, now it just shows nothing in my account for a phone.