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Hello!
I would like to know what did you choose to put on your Mi6, and how you're experience has been any of the three specific versions of the ROM. I am getting my Mi6 this week, and then, I'll be requesting the bootloader to be unlocked which would take a few more days.
I have been reading threads related of the three options that are available, but it would be good to have a thread which compares and discuss potential benefits when it comes to making a decision about which ROM to flash.
1. MIUI 9 Global ROM (Stable Version or Developer Version)
http://en.miui.com/download-326.html
This would be the more straightforward choice, and probably the Mi6 will come with it for me (unless it will have a fake ROM from GearBest then I will need to change it anyway). Therefore, either I could choose to stay on the Global ROM or consider the two options below which I want to.
2. MIUI 9 from Xiaomi.eu (Based on Chinese Beta)
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/7-9-21-22.41658/
I was strongly considering installing this as Xiaomi.eu has been around for a long time, and they have been compiling their ROM without any bloatware from MIUI 9 Global ROM. It sounds like a great option for long term use with regular updates, experienced developers and not having to keep trying different ROMs.
3. MIUI 9 (Epic ROM) by Mr. Raines (Xiaomi.eu Version or Global Version)
http://www.epicrom.pro/#sagit
Going by the description, it seems that there are lots of optimisations and features included and retained from MIUI from Xiaomi.eu while removing the bloatware further. And I am converging towards wanting to go for this ROM.
i.e, MIUI 9 with DOZE enabled, New apps added to OTA and MODs, Optimizations on TWRP installation and GAPPS, Better Intelligent CPU management and RAM. Gapps Pico pre-installed.
Now, it seems that this ROM has two variations now. If I understand this correctly, first they take the above Xiaomi.eu ROM and tune it further. But I also noticed that they started another thread with Epic ROM based on MIUI Global Version which offers the same tuning but from Xiaomi Global ROM.
Summary:
If we can just get some experienced feedback and recommendations in, and keep the discussion going then it would make the decision a lot easier. And I do wish to set my phone up and then, not really have to deal with changing ROMs every few months or so.
Let me know! Thanks.
p.s. Given that the kernel is out, and when a stable official Lineage OS ROM makes its way to us, then that would be an interesting option too, but I don't mind the MIUI interface as long as it is optimised as much as it can be.
Firstly sorry for my english, but i want to help you. I tried all these roms multiple times. Because i think my phone's standby battery drain is awful. I started with global beta and with this rom battery drain at night %6-8. And then read couple of thoughts about xiaomi.eu rom, i wanted to try. Yes, there was no bloatware, similar performance, little bit worse camera quality and a few differences(cause based on chinese beta). But my phone's standby drain was %5-6. Not a big difference. Then i saw epic rom and i tried. Again, no bloatware, similar perfrmance etc. and some extras like built-in ads blocker. Roms info said better battery performance, doze enabled etc. but unfortunately im disappointed again. Battery drain was %5-6 at night(wifi,gps,nfc etc. everything off). Although, I have friends who say they are happy with epic rom. My suggestion is, you should try global beta first and then try epic rom for benefits. Now, i am on global beta cause i dont to want to try anymore different roms and custom roms benefits are not that important for me. İ hope i could help.
I've got the exact same problem as ozguremek12 with battery standby on all roms... it seems like the phone doesn't enter deep sleep state on miui.
There's not THAT much difference between them tbh, I'd go with the global one just because it saves you the hassle of having to unlock your bootloader. I've yet to try Lineage, which I will once Oreo build is available for this device.
well, I have tried all of MIUI ROMS (dev,stable, china, global) and also MIUI.EU and to tell the truth global dev suit me the most but with root
If you uninstall few bloatware you will achieve ca 2 days standby and 6h SOT
I was only with MIUI because of FBE (which MIUI.EU didn't have), but now when most custom ROM offer encryption , to tell the truth, I can't see anything to stick with MIUI(maybe if someone need bootloader locked)
I found more bugs in global dev than some custom ROMS eg Lineageos from @xiaobai112220 is really nice and stable
At theese moment I am in Mokee ROM and I am happy.
PS.I wasn't able to get lower than 0,6% battery drain per hour during the night.
I`ve been using epic rom for about 2 months now.
It is very stable, absolutely everything works and I also get around 4 to 4:30 sot everyday - which is quite decent imo.
The only bug I experienced is on the stock calendar app - when I choose the "all day" option when creating a event, it switches to the year of 1969 - so I installed google calendar and now everything is 100%.
The camera quality is stunning as well.
This is my recommendation.
Global stable has too much bloatware.
wojtoo said:
well, I have tried all of MIUI ROMS (dev,stable, china, global) and also MIUI.EU and to tell the truth global dev suit me the most but with root
If you uninstall few bloatware you will achieve ca 2 days standby and 6h SOT
I was only with MIUI because of FBE (which MIUI.EU didn't have), but now when most custom ROM offer encryption , to tell the truth, I can't see anything to stick with MIUI(maybe if someone need bootloader locked)
I found more bugs in global dev than some custom ROMS eg Lineageos from @xiaobai112220 is really nice and stable
At theese moment I am in Mokee ROM and I am happy.
PS.I wasn't able to get lower than 0,6% battery drain per hour during the night.
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- what ROM are you using ? Can you give me the link sir?
I am using Mokee with donation package
Also some changes with built in Aegis and few google services modifications ( with mytoolpro)
OTA Link: http://bigota.d.miui.com/V10.0.2.0.OEGMIFH/miui_HM5PlusGlobal_V10.0.2.0.OEGMIFH_dc9f1b974c_8.1.zip
Download, copy to phone and update by going to system updater> 3 dots > Choose local update package > select the rom and update.
PS: On mobile, so can't do much formatting.
I was about to make a thread !
Installed 3h ago, working like a charm. Battery and speed are both miles better than Beta Miui 10 ROMs.
Just remember, this is just the OTA file "From 9.6.5.0 Global Stable to 10.0.2.0 Global Stable", it's not a full ROM.
Totone56 said:
I was about to make a thread !
Installed 3h ago, working like a charm. Battery and speed are both miles better than Beta Miui 10 ROMs.
Just remember, this is just the OTA file "From 9.6.5.0 Global Stable to 10.0.2.0 Global Stable", it's not a full ROM.
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Forgot that, updated OP.
Hi guys, can I flash this file from Developer? Thaxs
Totone56 said:
I was about to make a thread !
Installed 3h ago, working like a charm. Battery and speed are both miles better than Beta Miui 10 ROMs.
Just remember, this is just the OTA file "From 9.6.5.0 Global Stable to 10.0.2.0 Global Stable", it's not a full ROM.
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My Vince is 3GB variant.
I got around 2h 30 minutes of screen on time with 4G data on 20% battery usage. Is this stable one better than that?
I can run 14 stock apps without any reload out of the box after installing MIUI 10 beta 8.9.20... is this stable better than this?
Discover.RDG said:
My Vince is 3GB variant.
I got around 2h 30 minutes of screen on time with 4G data on 20% battery usage. Is this stable one better than that?
I can run 14 stock apps without any reload out of the box after installing MIUI 10 beta 8.9.20... is this stable better than this?
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Beta is unfinished software with bugs.
Stable is the finished software with most of the bugs fixed from beta.
Both are not different ROMs, it's the same ROM. Beta is what one calls unfinished software.
Adithya FRK said:
Beta is unfinished software with bugs.
Stable is the finished software with most of the bugs fixed from beta.
Both are not different ROMs, it's the same ROM. Beta is what one calls unfinished software.
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Man, I know all these, but at the end of the day it's the user experience which matters. These are not the answers to my questions.
If the unfinished one provides better experience than the finished one then there's no point in installing finished one.
Can you provide the answers to the questions I asked?
Because I'm running beta 8.9.20 if the stable is not better in performance than the Beta, then there's no point for me to flash it.
Can I flash the full ROM with orange recovery with worries of my internal storage getting wiped?
I know my apps will be gone, but my internal will remain untouched? I'm on 8.9.20
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Man, I know all these, but at the end of the day it's the user experience which matters. These are not the answers to my questions.
If the unfinished one provides better experience than the finished one then there's no point in installing finished one.
Can you provide the answers to the questions I asked?
Because I'm running beta 8.9.20 if the stable is not better in performance than the Beta, then there's no point for me to flash it.
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Performance is amazing compared to any Miui 10 Beta, and battery is on par with what we had on Stables when the phone came out, between 10 and 12h SOT and very good standby times
Totone56 said:
Performance is amazing compared to any Miui 10 Beta, and battery is on par with what we had on Stables when the phone came out, between 10 and 12h SOT and very good standby times
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Had you flashed custom roms and Android pie before flashing this? I had flashed so my battery percent goes upto 97% only... Though it's not an issue for me.
Performance is amazing like? What's the thing u experienced better, I really want to know, as you have tried it. ?
Discover.RDG said:
Had you flashed custom roms and Android pie before flashing this? I had flashed so my battery percent goes upto 97% only... Though it's not an issue for me.
Performance is amazing like? What's the thing u experienced better, I really want to know, as you have tried it.
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Yup, i think i tried everything ! Cardinal, AOKP, Pixel Experience, two different Pie GSI ... Went back to stock via Fastboot to be sure Never had the charging issue though
Regarding performance, it's average, but it's consistent and above all smooth as butter, which was not always the case with Betas
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Yup, i think i tried everything ! Cardinal, AOKP, Pixel Experience, two different Pie GSI ... Went back to stock via Fastboot to be sure Never had the charging issue though
Regarding performance, it's average, but it's consistent and above all smooth as butter, which was not always the case with Betas
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My bad luck ? though 3% less battery is not a big issue.
Actually I install around 110apps with dual space feature of island app (like the dual apps) so because of this I always try to install a ROM which support around 14 apps at least in the RAM without reload. Then only at the end of setting up my phone with all the 110apps and island app...I will be sure that the phone can handle at least 6 apps in the RAM without reload according to my need. Like excel, spark, Facebook, Twitter, messenger, chrome. That's why I'm so concerned about performance which I'm asking you. As it takes enough time to setup bro. ?
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Yup, i think i tried everything ! Cardinal, AOKP, Pixel Experience, two different Pie GSI ... Went back to stock via Fastboot to be sure Never had the charging issue though
Regarding performance, it's average, but it's consistent and above all smooth as butter, which was not always the case with Betas
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Well, based on ur comment I tried stable 10.0.2, yes it was smoother than 8.9.20 beta...but not better in performance/ram management. So moved back to beta 8.9.20 ?
Thank you for sharing this with us, is MIUI 10 based on Nougat or Oreo?
Jeffr33dom said:
Thank you for sharing this with us, is MIUI 10 based on Nougat or Oreo?
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Oreo ,
And I cant get this update with OTA. Why ?
I am on 9.6.5.0 global stable
Dumb question here, on another thread says "The Redmi Note 5 (vince) is also known as the Redmi 5 Plus in China. If you own the Redmi 5 Plus, do NOT flash this update if your bootloader is locked otherwise your device will fail to boot because of Xiaomi’s recent restrictions!", i have the Redmi 5 Plus (3/32), i got it from Aliexpress, actually on 9.6.5.0, and i have a locked bootloader, mainly for security reasons ( in fact, for some weird corporate bul**t about the Android bootloaders in my work), so, question, can i install this, or just wait for the "official" OTA.
Yeah, same here.
I'm on 9.6.5.0 and when I check for updates, nothing comes up. Where did this OTA for MIUI 10 come from?
Is it safe to update? Are there any significant enhancements?
frenkye90 said:
Dumb question here, on another thread says "The Redmi Note 5 (vince) is also known as the Redmi 5 Plus in China. If you own the Redmi 5 Plus, do NOT flash this update if your bootloader is locked otherwise your device will fail to boot because of Xiaomi’s recent restrictions!", i have the Redmi 5 Plus (3/32), i got it from Aliexpress, actually on 9.6.5.0, and i have a locked bootloader, mainly for security reasons ( in fact, for some weird corporate bul**t about the Android bootloaders in my work), so, question, can i install this, or just wait for the "official" OTA.
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Global Vince is also redmi 5 plus. If you have 9.6.5.0 your phone is global so you can install it because this update is for global (not for Chinese version).
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jes0411 said:
Global Vince is also redmi 5 plus. If you have 9.6.5.0 your phone is global so you can install it because this update is for global (not for Chinese version).
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Thanks a lot, downloaded, installed, and so far so good, just a little issue with the status bar (oh my oh my, i welcome the change and all of that, but for me it seems just wrong, the 9.6.5.0 status bar look better, but hey it's just me...) For the record, the Xiaomi Downloads Page is a little outdated.
So I had MIUI 10.0 installed including magisk. I'm not using TWRP so I can update through updater app.
Now I updated to 10.3.5 but didn't keep in mind that magisk will be deleted.
Is there now a way I can install magisk (or any other root app) without flashing a new rom and keeping all my data?
Thanks for any help!
EDIT: There are many "one-click-root" apps out there. Are there any good?
Wyrshc said:
So I had MIUI 10.0 installed including magisk. I'm not using TWRP so I can update through updater app.
Now I updated to 10.3.5 but didn't keep in mind that magisk will be deleted.
Is there now a way I can install magisk (or any other root app) without flashing a new rom and keeping all my data?
Thanks for any help!
EDIT: There are many "one-click-root" apps out there. Are there any good?
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Just use xiaomi eu and have twrp installed. Ota updates are really not that important. I dont like stock miui as it drains battery a lot and performs so bad, just try other custom miui based roms and im sure you will like it.
Apps like kingroot, 1 click root are for old android phones and some other non famous devices. Companies like xiaomi will take their caution against these applications as like they made you activate your phone if you flash custom miui roms(in case where you dont factory reset and go for system wipe)
I already tested two custom roms which I liked but there weren't newer version from them. I wanted MIUI 10 so I went back to stock rom.
Can you recommend me some MIUI 10 custom roms? Didn't check any new stuff for almost a year now...
I think that you can easily find answers for your questions on this forum?
Wyrshc said:
I already tested two custom roms which I liked but there weren't newer version from them. I wanted MIUI 10 so I went back to stock rom.
Can you recommend me some MIUI 10 custom roms? Didn't check any new stuff for almost a year now...
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Xiaomi eu gets china updates every friday(9.5.x version).
RevolutionOS gets updated every month.
You cant ota update tho(gives error for me). I update the rom once a month or if i see an important change in the changelogs. No need to wipe user data, just caches.
I would go for eu as they provide frequently as stock miui and better in battery-performance. Not to mention they got a solid community and a big forum unlike most of the others. Also you can use an eas kernel called skizo with it. You can find the latest skizo in Telegram group. Contact @spak for his announcement channel.
Thanks for your recommendation, gonna look into it!
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Xiaomi eu gets china updates every friday(9.5.x version).
RevolutionOS gets updated every month.
You cant ota update tho(gives error for me). I update the rom once a month or if i see an important change in the changelogs. No need to wipe user data, just caches.
I would go for eu as they provide frequently as stock miui and better in battery-performance. Not to mention they got a solid community and a big forum unlike most of the others. Also you can use an eas kernel called skizo with it. You can find the latest skizo in Telegram group. Contact @spak for his announcement channel.
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I've installed the xiaomi.eu rom now and I absolutely like it! Battery performance is indeed better. Only question I have now is how do I update it?
Last time I updated my rom I used the updater app which ****ed up my phone...Can I safely use the updater app or do I have to update through TWRP?
Wyrshc said:
I've installed the xiaomi.eu rom now and I absolutely like it! Battery performance is indeed better. Only question I have now is how do I update it?
Last time I updated my rom I used the updater app which ****ed up my phone...Can I safely use the updater app or do I have to update through TWRP?
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Download the updated rom same way you flashed, flash the zip without system and data wipe. Afyer fladhing just clear cache and flssh magisk. Thats all
gsser said:
Download the updated rom same way you flashed, flash the zip without system and data wipe. Afyer fladhing just clear cache and flssh magisk. Thats all
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Ok great, thanks for your help!
Hello there!
I'm still running the old Oreo firmware on my note 5 pro (global), but I've been having some issues and I feel its time for a reinstall.
However as far as I can see, every ROM under the sun requires the "new" (well, its not new anymore) Pie firmware, and as I understand it, that firmware brings a slight downgrade in battery life among other things, but it seems to depend upon which version is installed.
So, which version of the Pie firmware is considered the best as of now in terms of performance/battery and all that jazz.
Any advice would be very appriciated!
TwentyØnePenguins said:
Hello there!
I'm still running the old Oreo firmware on my note 5 pro (global), but I've been having some issues and I feel its time for a reinstall.
However as far as I can see, every ROM under the sun requires the "new" (well, its not new anymore) Pie firmware, and as I understand it, that firmware brings a slight downgrade in battery life among other things, but it seems to depend upon which version is installed.
So, which version of the Pie firmware is considered the best as of now in terms of performance/battery and all that jazz.
Any advice would be very appriciated!
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11.0.3.0
or more detailed
miui_HMNote5Global_V11.0.3.0.PEIMIXM_ff4c5a6b1a_9.0
Good luck
TwentyØnePenguins said:
Hello there!
I'm still running the old Oreo firmware on my note 5 pro (global), but I've been having some issues and I feel its time for a reinstall.
However as far as I can see, every ROM under the sun requires the "new" (well, its not new anymore) Pie firmware, and as I understand it, that firmware brings a slight downgrade in battery life among other things, but it seems to depend upon which version is installed.
So, which version of the Pie firmware is considered the best as of now in terms of performance/battery and all that jazz.
Any advice would be very appriciated!
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I've used many firmwares but 9.4.25 is best for me bcoz it shows correct battery specification while charging (4000 mAh)
Does firmware version make a noticable difference? Also, it's safe to downgrade Pie firmware?
Letrix said:
Does firmware version make a noticable difference? Also, it's safe to downgrade Pie firmware?
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Not much, it is safe to downgrade without any brick (make sure u flash above 9.5.19)
Sidgup1998 said:
I've used many firmwares but 9.4.25 is best for me bcoz it shows correct battery specification while charging (4000 mAh)
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This is what i've heard as well, (one on 9.xx but i dont remember which one it was, haha) but I figure it's safer to go with this and upgrade later if it gives me trouble. I am on ARB4 and I don't know how the different firmware versions play with it...
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11.0.3.0
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miui_HMNote5Global_V11.0.3.0.PEIMIXM_ff4c5a6b1a_9.0
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Interesting, I don't think I've seen 11.xx recomended that much, have you found it to be better.
Also just generally I know this is a very nitpicky subject, but since Xiaomi has blessed their phones with ARB I really dont want to screw it up, need the phone to keep on working, haha
TwentyØnePenguins said:
This is what i've heard as well, (one on 9.xx but i dont remember which one it was, haha) but I figure it's safer to go with this and upgrade later if it gives me trouble. I am on ARB4 and I don't know how the different firmware versions play with it...
Interesting, I don't think I've seen 11.xx recomended that much, have you found it to be better.
Also just generally I know this is a very nitpicky subject, but since Xiaomi has blessed their phones with ARB I really dont want to screw it up, need the phone to keep on working, haha
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Don't worry 9.4.25 is safe. It is arb 4
TwentyØnePenguins said:
This is what i've heard as well, (one on 9.xx but i dont remember which one it was, haha) but I figure it's safer to go with this and upgrade later if it gives me trouble. I am on ARB4 and I don't know how the different firmware versions play with it...
Interesting, I don't think I've seen 11.xx recomended that much, have you found it to be better.
Also just generally I know this is a very nitpicky subject, but since Xiaomi has blessed their phones with ARB I really dont want to screw it up, need the phone to keep on working, haha
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It has newer blobs and vedors stuff. I'm using custom Q(android 10) ROM, soo I must using Q firmware for compatibility.
Besides that any ABR4 firmware is good to go.
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
only one way to find out
Xyril07 said:
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
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Not worth it, the changes are very little, like e.g. added Ads toggle directly in the initial Android Setup and probably other very minor stuff.
Unless you're talking about Xiaomi.eu which is a Custom ROM. I personally use it and can recommend it. Latest MIUI from China, optimised for rest of the world. Advantages are more features and in-house apps like MIUI Phone (with Call Recording), MIUI Contacts, Xiaomi Health, etc..
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Not worth it, the changes are very little, like e.g. added Ads toggle directly in the initial Android Setup and probably other very minor stuff.
Unless you're talking about Xiaomi.eu which is a Custom ROM. I personally use it and can recommend it. Latest MIUI from China, optimised for rest of the world. Advantages are more features and in-house apps like MIUI Phone (with Call Recording), MIUI Contacts, Xiaomi Health, etc..
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Wait I'm confused?
Xiaomi.eu is different from the EU ROM?
Does that mean that the particular ROM you're using is actually a Custom ROM (From the community rather than from developers/ POCO themselves)
If so, what exactly are the advantages it provides aside from the one you mentioned? How about substance?
And does that mean that it is outside the realm of being official, and therefore not ideal to someone like me looking to stick to stock everything to avoid the hassle and headache?
Thank you!
Xyril07 said:
Wait I'm confused?
Xiaomi.eu is different from the EU ROM?
Does that mean that the particular ROM you're using is actually a Custom ROM (From the community rather than from developers/ POCO themselves)
If so, what exactly are the advantages it provides aside from the one you mentioned? How about substance?
And does that mean that it is outside the realm of being official, and therefore not ideal to someone like me looking to stick to stock everything to avoid the hassle and headache?
Thank you!
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Yes 100% different. Many get confused about this because of the website's name.
It's very much a Custom ROM, but very stable, since it just takes the latest MIUI ROM from China (China gets the latest ROM first, because Xiaomi is chinese). The community devs also did a few adjustments to make the chinese MIUI ROM suitable for the rest of the world, like adding Google Services which China doesn't use, etc..
I'm not sure if you can flash the Official EU ROM without having to unlock the bootloader. I think you can.
But for Xiaomi.eu you definitely need to unlock it. For me personally it was worth it, but I'm also very specific about my customisations and also always unlock & root my Android devices.
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Yes 100% different. Many get confused about this because of the website's name.
It's very much a Custom ROM, but very stable, since it just takes the latest MIUI ROM from China (China gets the latest ROM first, because Xiaomi is chinese). The community devs also did a few adjustments to make the chinese MIUI ROM suitable for the rest of the world, like adding Google Services which China doesn't use, etc..
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Damn.
Do you personally recommend going through the hassle of switching over to Xiaomi.eu, as someone who wants to stick to stock as much as possible but also want the best ideal experience (best battery life, general quality of life stuff)
I also wanna avoid stuff like bootlooping, issues with my warranty, not being able to go back to the official state of the phone etc.
Can you also comment on the opinions I see mostly saying that there is better battery over at Xiaomi.eu. and if so by how much? Are talking an extra hour or two on your screen on time and general battery life? Or at best a couple of minutes?
Thank you
Xyril07 said:
Damn.
Do you personally recommend going through the hassle of switching over to Xiaomi.eu, as someone who wants to stick to stock as much as possible but also want the best ideal experience (best battery life, general quality of life stuff)
I also wanna avoid stuff like bootlooping, issues with my warranty, not being able to go back to the official state of the phone etc.
Can you also comment on the opinions I see mostly saying that there is better battery over at Xiaomi.eu. and if so by how much? Are talking an extra hour or two on your screen on time and general battery life? Or at best a couple of minutes?
Thank you
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Hm. Well, Global and EU ROMs are always behind China ROM and Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM.
First thing you'd notice is the Xiaomi apps like Phone, Contacts, and other Xiaomi apps being improved and having a modern Design. You also get new features like Horizontal Recents-Menu, ability to smoothly adjust Font-Thickness. And probably more obvious stuff.
It's been a long time since I last used Stock ROM, but.. battery life is the same.
Also: When people claim much improved battery life on Vanilla Android ROMs or other specific ROMs, take them with a grain of salt, unless these people do scientific tests.
There's always variation, and it highly depends on the features that are enabled, your apps and its services that are running in the background and other stuff like your specific brightness setting.
You may get bootlooping when trying out Custom ROMs, that can happen, but you can always revert back to Stock ROM. You just need to do research on how to flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP, how to flash a Custom ROM and how to revert back to a Stock ROM.
Unlocking Bootloader and using Custom ROM is probably not covered under warranty, but if you can, you can revert to Stock, lock the bootloader, and say "I haven't modified my phone's software", they wouldn't know.
The best MIUI experience is Xiaomi.eu in my opinion, however you have to take time in doing research about TWRP, Xiaomi.eu, Mi Flash (to revert to Stock if sh*t goes wrong), and yeah.
From Global to EU ROM (Official) however, is not worth it at all. No differences basically.
dreamytom said:
Hm. Well, Global and EU ROMs are always behind China ROM and Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM.
First thing you'd notice is the Xiaomi apps like Phone, Contacts, and other Xiaomi apps being improved and having a modern Design. You also get new features like Horizontal Recents-Menu, ability to smoothly adjust Font-Thickness. And probably more obvious stuff.
It's been a long time since I last used Stock ROM, but.. battery life is the same.
Also: When people claim much improved battery life on Vanilla Android ROMs or other specific ROMs, take them with a grain of salt, unless these people do scientific tests.
There's always variation, and it highly depends on the features that are enabled, your apps and its services that are running in the background and other stuff like your specific brightness setting.
You may get bootlooping when trying out Custom ROMs, that can happen, but you can always revert back to Stock ROM. You just need to do research on how to flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP, how to flash a Custom ROM and how to revert back to a Stock ROM.
Unlocking Bootloader and using Custom ROM is probably not covered under warranty, but if you can, you can revert to Stock, lock the bootloader, and say "I haven't modified my phone's software", they wouldn't know.
The best MIUI experience is Xiaomi.eu in my opinion, however you have to take time in doing research about TWRP, Xiaomi.eu, Mi Flash (to revert to Stock if sh*t goes wrong), and yeah.
From Global to EU ROM (Official) however, is not worth it at all. No differences basically.
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What about OTA? From what I've read in the past, the Updater app in Xiaomi.eu just downloads the full package and we dirty flash the package it in TWRP. Is that still the case?
CharlieMHz said:
What about OTA? From what I've read in the past, the Updater app in Xiaomi.eu just downloads the full package and we dirty flash the package it in TWRP. Is that still the case?
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Yup, on Xiaomi.eu that is the case.
However it only takes 3 minutes to flash the ROM and to reboot. That's literally it.
It's possible for a system to work together with a Custom Recovery, in order to automatically flash updates, but apparently in 2021, we haven't gotten there yet.
I've heard of some Vanilla Android Custom ROMs having fully automatic OTA-updates. AICP or crDroid I think? Not sure..
There's two option with Custom MIUI ROM ( Bare minimum modifications or else there is Highly modifiable MIUI ROM's like OneOS, MIUI MIX, Hellas MIUI, XTRV, MIUIVN, MI-Globe, etc. ) , Xiaomi.eu weekly beta update and a Xiaomi.eu Stable update which are both based on chinese beta and stable as the name suggests. Personally, I use the Weekly update and i have not found any issues for which i would consider it a deal breaker. I am Rooted and happy. I will never go back to Stock ROM because of how poor the battery life was. And also to factor the google dialer and messages app. I do not like it.
I agree with everything @Animesh Singh said, except the Battery life part.
dreamytom said:
Sì, su Xiaomi.eu è così.
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Ho sentito parlare di alcune ROM personalizzate Android Vanilla con aggiornamenti OTA completamente automatici. AICP o crDroid penso? Non sono sicuro..
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Just to complete the list, even with Syberia I get the update via OTA.
pegasoc said:
Just to complete the list, even with Syberia I get the update via OTA.
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lol why is it in italian
dreamytom said:
lol why is it in italian
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I apologize, I got confused with the translator.
Xyril07 said:
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
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If you really like to more Google default apps than MIUI default apps such as Phone, Messages, Google Discover, etc. then changing from Global ROM to EU ROM from official MIUI site is good to go. Unlock the bootloader first then you can flash the EU ROM. Otherwise just stick with Global ROM, everything is same from performance, battery life, etc. But then again if you prefer a Custom ROM based on MIUI, then MIUI EU from Xiaomi-EU is better, it has better stability and more features as well since it is from Chinese ROM which always release earlier features and bug-fix improvement than the official MIUI ROM. Hope this help
You can check all xiaomi.eu features from the link below (scroll down a bit).
MIUI 12.0 - MIUI 12.0/12.1/12.2/12.5 STABLE RELEASE
STABLE RELEASE RULES WHEN POSTING 1. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK ABOUT ITS ETA 2. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK why! 3. If a ROM is available, download it and use it 4. If a ROM has bugs, post the bug to the bug section if the BUG is not already listed 5. If you use any form of...
xiaomi.eu
Notable features for me are:
Increased volume in headphones after some tweaking in sound settings, better standby and battery life, wallpaper carousel (it has an anime category in xiaomi.eu), better theme store imo because of the AOD category which i couldn't find in the global but most of the stuff is in chinese so it might not be as appealing for everyone, no ads etc
I have been looking at a Poco f3 5g. It will have the UK (EU?) Rom. Should I still try xiaomi.eu?
I have a mi 9t at the moment with pixel experience but I'm willing to give Xiaomi ROM another go.
I like Google dialer and messages app. I don't record calls and don't understand why people make a big deal of this?
Is there less bloat in the xiaomi.eu ROM compared to the official EU ROM?
causeway said:
I have been looking at a Poco f3 5g. It will have the UK (EU?) Rom. Should I still try xiaomi.eu?
I have a mi 9t at the moment with pixel experience but I'm willing to give Xiaomi ROM another go.
I like Google dialer and messages app. I don't record calls and don't understand why people make a big deal of this?
Is there less bloat in the xiaomi.eu ROM compared to the official EU ROM?
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I have read somewhere that xiaomi.eu have some significant better stuff, i think it was on reddit. I ordered mine yesterday, my Poco F3 comes with the Global ROM so i am also thinking on flashing it to xiaomi.eu or to the Official EU ROM, i am still thinking more about changing to the EU ROM other than xiaomi.eu since it's official and it's the first time i am thinking about flahing a phone, is it possible to change from official Global ROM to official EU ROM and if so, do you know how can i do it?
I personnly wouldnt bother still got bloat like virus scanner pretty sure it Avast with a diffrent stamp dont care for the music and video apps to much bloat , the themes app sucks to ,, gonna flash something make it worth your while like Arrow