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I am one of the few people who hasn't been happy with his LG G4. I love the build, camera and to some extent, the stock launcher, but one thing that irks me is the irritating scroll lag/jitter I experience in most apps. Coming from the Nexus 5, this is jarring and I want to punch the G4 in the face (I then resort to pressing on the screen very hard...it doesn't care).
I have looked and looked for a solution, but there is none. So I ask here, is there a way to eliminate/reduce scroll lag/jitter? The jitter is most noticeable on the official Twitter and Facebook apps, where scrolling causes the feed to hiccup along the way.
What I have tried so far:
- Debloated (no-root) apps and services
- Tried numerous stock launchers including Nova and Google
- Turned animation speeds to 0.5.
- Greenified some apps
- Turned on forced GPU rendering (this one makes no bloody difference)
Is there ANYTHING I can do? Appreciate the help!
I have set up where lag is and jitter is pretty non-existent.
I am rooted for one. Using kernel adiutor changed to interactive on big and little.
Using Amplify to prevent wakelocks. Greenify to hibernate apps. Powernap for battery life. Finally the CTT mod.
Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of work to alleviate (not eliminate) the lag and jitter.
Hopefully we get some good roms when all bootloaders get unlocked.
Doncabezon said:
I have set up where lag is and jitter is pretty non-existent.
I am rooted for one. Using kernel adiutor changed to interactive on big and little.
Using Amplify to prevent wakelocks. Greenify to hibernate apps. Powernap for battery life. Finally the CTT mod.
Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of work to alleviate (not eliminate) the lag and jitter.
Hopefully we get some good roms when all bootloaders get unlocked.
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Damn, that's a lot of work. I am **** scared of rooting my phone in case I brick it, so that's out of the question.
I am hoping for some good Custom ROMS as well, but damn the phone is so powerful. It shouldn't lag at all!
Doncabezon said:
Using kernel adiutor changed to interactive on big and little.
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This is the default without rooting/using the app anyway
mufaa said:
Damn, that's a lot of work. I am **** scared of rooting my phone in case I brick it, so that's out of the question.
I am hoping for some good Custom ROMS as well, but damn the phone is so powerful. It shouldn't lag at all!
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My nexus 5 has less lag. True, this phone shouldn't lag, but bloat ware doesn't help. Rooting this phone wasn't as hard as I thought. I want pure Android on this phone. Give me some cyanogenmod or cataclysm and I will be happy.
Hello,
Most games on my devices crashing and slow down the device. I think that is not normal and the "final" seems like a beta version. What do you think?
Most of the apps are not optimized for Oreo yet.
I'm seeing a performance dip as well. It takes time to switch between apps, and there's choppy performance using WhatsApp. I don't know if it is caused by an unoptimized background app.
can confirm. Especially when multiple apps are open. Then again, we only have 2gb of ramto work with,lol
It has been optimized with the September patch I think. My device is blazing fast after the update.
Sound's like I should skip the Oreo update on my 5X for a few months.
I'm glad to report no performance issues after upgrading to 8.0 Oreo OTA.
App switching is definition slower, but typing is almost impossible at times. The keyboard cannot keep up, and it's almost impossible to type within 15 seconds of using quick search from the home screen or after any app is opened.
I'm hoping a clean install helps with this.
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App switching is definition slower, but typing is almost impossible at times. The keyboard cannot keep up, and it's almost impossible to type within 15 seconds of using quick search from the home screen or after any app is opened.
I'm hoping a clean install helps with this.
Fix for performance issues
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
I have major performance issues with Oreo. Switching back to chrome after using another app often causes a wait of 10-15 seconds until chrome is responsive, worse if I have a few tabs open, and the keyboard takes another 5 or so seconds to show up.
My RAM usage is most often at 95-99% so insufficient RAM is likely the cause for me. If I remember correctly, apps targeting Oreo should have a smaller memory footprint, but it will take a while until most apps are.
This phone is going to have to last me another year, so I hope performance will improve.
Why is it that some peoples phones are blazing fast with amazing battery life, running great on Oreo and then others are slow, terrible battery life, running like crap? It just dont make sense, it cant be Oreo since alot of people are running great!
gpachov said:
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
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This made my laggy oreo very fast now. Thanks. I was about to downgrade today, but I'll give it another 24 hours after switching to skia. Major improvements already with app switching and loading camera/snapchat
gpachov said:
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
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omg thank you for this, this fixed lags on my stock oreo system and my battery life increased by 50%
Agree, really fast with the latest update.
gpachov said:
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
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Just an FYI for others, this option and many others in Developer Options do not persist after rebooting. I'm guessing for some it's a placebo due to this.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using XDA Labs
Thank you
So much better after doing this!
gpachov said:
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
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Switching to opengl(skia) seems pretty pointless since the device reverts to opengl(default) after every reboot.
Its slow
Can confirm that there is deterioration in performance after the oreo update, choppy phone dial app, especially on cold start, everything lagging by sec or two, keyboard, app switching and especially the camera app, its taking like 5-10 sec to open, and most annoying of all the shutter speed of the camera is now like a budget Chinese phone. It's slow when taking pictures, Disappointed! The change of the rendering engine to openGL(skia) not the default one, seems to improve the performance a bit, I'm testing just now but i thinks it's not like it's supposed to be. It might be as someone pointed out that google is trying to kill off the Nexus brand or something... if thats the case it's a **** move.
Found the fix: wipe your phone cache partition in recovery, then reboot. My 5X was slow as hell after the update, after doing this it's snappy again, even faster than before!!
sinedied said:
Found the fix: wipe your phone cache partition in recovery, then reboot. My 5X was slow as hell after the update, after doing this it's snappy again, even faster than before!!
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This might have helped with my recent issue with Google Play Music - it was constantly utilizing CPU and overheating phone for no apparent reason. After cleaning of cache partition in recovery it seems to be fixed (at least for the time being).
Pull down quick settings, press 'edit', tap the 3 dot menu and uncheck all the boxes.
Just discovered this today. The lag used to be unbearable and was thinking about replacing the phone with a Nexus 6p or HTC 10.
Then I discovered this and the shade is completely buttery now, and plus, looks more like stock android!!
Hope this helps other people as it did to me.
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Pull down quick settings, press 'edit', tap the 3 dot menu and uncheck all the boxes.
Just discovered this today. The lag used to be unbearable and was thinking about replacing the phone with a Nexus 6p or HTC 10.
Then I discovered this and the shade is completely buttery now, and plus, looks more like stock android!!
Hope this helps other people as it did to me.
EDIT: I swear the fingerprint scanner is faster now and the whole UI is even smoother... Wow.
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You're talking about that ? (see screenshot)
I think it's a placebo effect, I do not see why some shortcuts would slow down the phone completely..
In addition the tab for brightness is very convenient to reset the automatic brightness when the phone takes time to change or remains blocked on a dim light (it's a problem on this phone I think, it's not very effective on auto brightness)
In any case I tried to see, for my part I do not see any difference, the phone has exactly the same behavior as the shortcuts is on !
I forgot the screenshot :angel:
Maybe it's different for other people. When I had those enabled, it definitely was jerky to pull down quick settings, especially using the swipe down shortcut on my launcher. Now it's really smooth for me, which is how it should be with a sd 821. Shouldn't be a challenge for it.
I did find the brightness slider useful but, and I know this sounds weird, I would happily trade those shortcuts (including 'file sharing' etc. which I never used) for a much smoother and cleaner looking notification shade (and btw I have next to 0 lag tolerance... Should have got a Pixel ?). Instead I used Nougat/Oreo Quick Settings to change it to a quick settings toggle and I think this is a good solution considering that personally I hardly ever change the brightness from auto.
Thanks for the reply, interesting how some G6s seem to lag and others don't. Also I've never had a problem with auto brightness ?
MDW 100 said:
Maybe it's different for other people. When I had those enabled, it definitely was jerky to pull down quick settings, especially using the swipe down shortcut on my launcher. Now it's really smooth for me, which is how it should be with a sd 821. Shouldn't be a challenge for it.
I did find the brightness slider useful but, and I know this sounds weird, I would happily trade those shortcuts (including 'file sharing' etc. which I never used) for a much smoother and cleaner looking notification shade (and btw I have next to 0 lag tolerance... Should have got a Pixel ?). Instead I used Nougat/Oreo Quick Settings to change it to a quick settings toggle and I think this is a good solution considering that personally I hardly ever change the brightness from auto.
Thanks for the reply, interesting how some G6s seem to lag and others don't. Also I've never had a problem with auto brightness ?
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Interestingly enough, I've done the same as you.
The problem in doing this is how difficult it is to find this toggle when your brightness is EXTREMELY low and the sun is beaming in your face. Unlike having a whole row to tap on and adjust, you have to tap on one singular point on your display, and I found this frustrating.
Anyways, disabling everything in that list did help with the lag a bit. Even if it was just barely noticeable.
The improvement was more than barely noticeable for me... Made it seem like a software bug.
Having said that, I don't think it's acceptable for a company like LG to release a phone at this price that has any lag issues at all, agree? I'll have spent $674 equiv. just on the phone by the time my contract is up. Loved the phone overall, thought the lag might improve, also thought I would promptly get Oreo (being LG) which might help. None of those happened, and I ran out of time to return it. Silly me...
MDW 100 said:
Maybe it's different for other people. When I had those enabled, it definitely was jerky to pull down quick settings, especially using the swipe down shortcut on my launcher. Now it's really smooth for me, which is how it should be with a sd 821. Shouldn't be a challenge for it.
I did find the brightness slider useful but, and I know this sounds weird, I would happily trade those shortcuts (including 'file sharing' etc. which I never used) for a much smoother and cleaner looking notification shade (and btw I have next to 0 lag tolerance... Should have got a Pixel ?). Instead I used Nougat/Oreo Quick Settings to change it to a quick settings toggle and I think this is a good solution considering that personally I hardly ever change the brightness from auto.
Thanks for the reply, interesting how some G6s seem to lag and others don't. Also I've never had a problem with auto brightness ?
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Maybe it depends on the version of the phone, I'm on h870
On mine auto brightness is really slow, sometimes I need to adjust myself because it is sometimes too strong or too weak compared to the situation, maybe my sensor that is badly calibrated..
Otherwise I agree, sharing files is useless and for the volume I already have the keys, so it is disabled on my side.
It is true that we see a lot of different returns depending on the users of this phone, especially on performance and autonomy, personally I'm lucky, good performance, good battery life and good focal length (2.01)
coyot352 said:
Maybe it depends on the version of the phone, I'm on h870
On mine auto brightness is really slow, sometimes I need to adjust myself because it is sometimes too strong or too weak compared to the situation, maybe my sensor that is badly calibrated..
Otherwise I agree, sharing files is useless and for the volume I already have the keys, so it is disabled on my side.
It is true that we see a lot of different returns depending on the users of this phone, especially on performance and autonomy, personally I'm lucky, good performance, good battery life and good focal length (2.01)
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Yeah auto brightness is pretty slow to react on mine too...
I also have a European H870. It has moments of absolute fluidity out of the blue and it's awesome, and also moments of being so bogged down it's unusable. Everything else is somewhere in between. It feels like a fast phone but it doesn't feel like a OnePlus 3t, which has the same chipset. That's even after debloating the phone almost entirely. I don't really want to install a custom ROM like LOS yet, although I've heard that helps.
If your LG G6 is rooted, install a custom kernel, from Play Store try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps should help, if you installed a custom kernel, play using Kernel Adiutor. Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering, Disable HW Overlays" should make the beast smoother/snappier. Install adblocker too.
This is the better solution for stuttering/lag.
Ali Mirza said:
If your LG G6 is rooted, install a custom kernel, from Play Store try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps should help, if you installed a custom kernel, play using Kernel Adiutor. Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering, Disable HW Overlays" should make the beast smoother/snappier. Install adblocker too.
This is the better solution for stuttering/lag.
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I do not have root at the moment on my phone, but when I do, I will give Kernel Adiutor a try. Thanks!
h870 here, unchecking these boxes didnt make any difference.
although i have to agree that this phone is sometimes weirdly laggy while usuall being smooth most of the time
Thx for letting us know about that menu! Those settings don't produce stuttering for me thankfully, but I disabled them anyway and enabled the volume slider which I love to have there
nice!
The only thing that creates slight stutters (very rare though) on my Orea LG G6 is when I use the ported pixel 2 live wallpapers.
I have been using the SM-A505G for almost 2 weeks now. However, I feel that the general performance/smoothness is not good always.
I see many occasional stutters throughout the day and the phone is not as responsive as I would have liked it to be always. Slight stutter are present, and sometimes small things like keyboard would open 1 second later, or swiping from one home screen to another is not smooth many times, or some other minor delays like that. I tried the Samsung One UI launcher and also the Rootless Launcher, but had similar experience on both. I had been using a Nexus6p so far with custom roms, and while this phone is much faster than that, I am not sure if these performance stutters are expected on devices in this price range. Can anyone else share their experience?
I am not playing any games or running many apps on my device as well and am more of a casual user.
Have you tried to use the reduce animations setting in Advanced features? It helps a bit.
Stock keyboard or 3rd party? Using swift key has been quite smooth.
The phone is sluggish especially when showing call screen etc but in general haven't noticed majority of the symptoms you posted.
I'm also coming from Nexus6 with a custom roms and I agree that this phone has been a godsend so far in terms of speed.
Have you thought about rooting it and then install some sort of cpu manager? I know the cpu isn't going to perform like and SD 845 or anything but maybe if u change the governor you could see better performance in day-to-day usage?
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I am not sure if these performance stutters are expected on devices in this price range. .
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Of course they are not expected. Those lags are from bad software optimization i.e dialer in my case
pabgar said:
Of course they are not expected. Those lags are from bad software optimization i.e dialer in my case
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Hoping that's something which Samsung will fix then. Not sure how their track record is on non flagship devices.
shadow_khan said:
Have you tried to use the reduce animations setting in Advanced features? It helps a bit.
Stock keyboard or 3rd party? Using swift key has been quite smooth.
The phone is sluggish especially when showing call screen etc but in general haven't noticed majority of the symptoms you posted.
I'm also coming from Nexus6 with a custom roms and I agree that this phone has been a godsend so far in terms of speed.
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Yeah I am trying with some changes to see what works. I switched to lawnchair launcher v2. Seems to be smoother than the others so far. The call screen/dialer is slow for me too.
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Have you thought about rooting it and then install some sort of cpu manager? I know the cpu isn't going to perform like and SD 845 or anything but maybe if u change the governor you could see better performance in day-to-day usage?
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I can go that route later in the life cycle of the phone assuming it supports all that, but this is not something I really wanted to do in the first year itself.
Hello.
I got a Mi A2 Lite a few days ago, is my first Android One. My model have 3Gb of RAM.
I'm facing the following problem:
Let's say I'm playing Lords Mobile (the only game I play). Then, I receive a message on WhatsApp. I go there and reply. I then go to Facebook and/or Chrome to check something, and want to go back to Lords Mobile. The game was pulled out from memory, and need to reload again from zero. Same with Chrome, it shows all my tabs I had opened, but is surelly reloading again from zero. Is like the "clear all" of 'recent apps' on some other phones.
I think 3Gb of RAM is enough to handle these apps, don't? I don't have too much apps installed, and the memory use is about 2Gb. I don't know if this behavior is native, by the way. Another example: if I go to sleep just after play, when I go to game again in the morning, the game reload from zero.
Is this normal? Any way to make this model handle the memory in a better way, if is the case?
My device is on Pie, July security patch. No root.
Thanks in advice
It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.
a1291762 said:
It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.
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Thanks.
Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?
romulocarlos said:
Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?
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Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).
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Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).
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Thank you. I don't go for Android Go, seems worse. lol
Any other suggestions will be welcome.
It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.
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It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.
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Well, custom kernel and ROMs means unlocking bootloader... I can't do this for now. But, anyway, thanks!
3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.
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3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.
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Well, taking in note what @slimshady76 wrote above, maybe the "Butterfly for daisy" will be a good deal. But I can't do it now.
I just made a test on last 2 days.
I uninstalled any optional app on phone I downloaded, and disabled a lot of system apps. Lords Mobile won't unload from memory when switching and/or when I sleep and back to game at morning.
So, is a lack of memory, but I still thinking 3Gb is enough to handle it. When 10.0.12.0 comes available to download, I'll try Butterfly kernel.