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About to recieve a OnePlus 3. Anything I should need to know?

I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)

ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...

Xceeder said:
The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...
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Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.

ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna go TWRP since that's all I have heard about, I got drawn in by the LG V10 by marketing, sucked so now going towards a phone that will last. Not having to rely on AT&T for updates is a surefire way to get that.
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I had an LG G4 , great phone but I too suffered the bootloop problem and LG did nothing to refund me so no more LG phones for me , p.s please leave a thumbs up on my posts if I've helped I truly appreciate it and if you need any more help just come back to this post and quote my message and I'll help as best I can ...

ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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Flash Zenity RR as soon as you get a chance! It's an awesome ROM.

ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.
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Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.

tnsmani said:
Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.
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Ah ok only reason I said kernel was because [kernel] was the first thing that came up when I typed in blu_spark.

Is there a Custom ROM for Huawei 7X/Mate SE?

Would like to use a clean version of Android instead of the EMUI version that is loaded on all their phones.
Seeing how these phones are identical, figured what would work for one would work with the other.
Thanks for giving me any insight.
Coming from the Galaxy Note 4 - hoping I'm not making a mistake with this phone that is enroute.

+1

Nothing happening on this phone I guess.

Jimi Mack said:
Nothing happening on this phone I guess.
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Guess you haven't bothered looking at the ROMs and development section. While alot of ROMs are not what I would deem "daily material", their is working going on to get ROMs on this device.
Sent from my BND-L24 using Tapatalk

Here is a list of supported custom ROMs on Mate SE, Choose the A only ROM.
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
The whole custom ROM world has changed, Now you need to apply system.img instead of rom.zip using fastboot command.
I have the PHH-Treble installed on my Huawei Mate SE. here is the link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659

In addition, I'd check out the Open Kirin site. I've read the Lineage version is outstanding and well tuned for the chip. They list the 7x as supported but I've read the Mate SE most certainly is also.
https://openkirin.net/download/

nook'r said:
Here is a list of supported custom ROMs on Mate SE, Choose the A only ROM.
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
The whole custom ROM world has changed, Now you need to apply system.img instead of rom.zip using fastboot command.
I have the PHH-Treble installed on my Huawei Mate SE. here is the link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
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Learning about this phone, why the A only roms?

AsItLies said:
In addition, I'd check out the Open Kirin site. I've read the Lineage version is outstanding and well tuned for the chip. They list the 7x as supported but I've read the Mate SE most certainly is also.
https://openkirin.net/download/
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I've been running the OpenKirin Lineage v4 on my Mate SE as daily driver for over a week. It is outstanding. Not going back to emui.

olswede said:
I've been running the OpenKirin Lineage v4 on my Mate SE as daily driver for over a week. It is outstanding. Not going back to emui.
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Coincidentally, just booted that ROM (on my SE) today. It's very very good, noticed a few minor glitches to do with the camera and navigation (will let them know about em).
I'll admit though, emui8 is growing on me It's certainly better than 5.1 was. Love to see the roms becoming available though. No doubt when updates stop (or before), they will be critical to have.

AsItLies said:
Coincidentally, just booted that ROM (on my SE) today. It's very very good, noticed a few minor glitches to do with the camera and navigation (will let them know about em).
I'll admit though, emui8 is growing on me It's certainly better than 5.1 was. Love to see the roms becoming available though. No doubt when updates stop (or before), they will be critical to have.
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I don't mind emui except that the power-saver regularly kills tasker, ad-blocking vpns, etc. I've tried everything to exempt them from power saving but no go. The battery life is outstanding though (I usually only lose 15% after a full day's usage), so for average users it's a bonus.

nook'r said:
Here is a list of supported custom ROMs on Mate SE, Choose the A only ROM.
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
The whole custom ROM world has changed, Now you need to apply system.img instead of rom.zip using fastboot command.
I have the PHH-Treble installed on my Huawei Mate SE. here is the link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
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Hey thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have not installed a custom ROM in a long time.
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olswede said:
I've been running the OpenKirin Lineage v4 on my Mate SE as daily driver for over a week. It is outstanding. Not going back to emui.
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This looks sweet, but the instruction on this site say I need my custom bootloader,and i can't find a guide how to do that. i have TWRP

AsItLies said:
Coincidentally, just booted that ROM (on my SE) today. It's very very good, noticed a few minor glitches to do with the camera and navigation (will let them know about em).
I'll admit though, emui8 is growing on me It's certainly better than 5.1 was. Love to see the roms becoming available though. No doubt when updates stop (or before), they will be critical to have.
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Any chance you'd elaborate on the issues you've come across? I'm thinking about loading it up but don't want to lose functionality

JakeBuck said:
Any chance you'd elaborate on the issues you've come across? I'm thinking about loading it up but don't want to lose functionality
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Nothing terribly serious. I didn't use it for long, but the camera option for selfie shutter 'palm to camera' didn't work. Also the recently taken shots didn't show in the bottom gallery (I read this is fixed now). And the navigation arrows at the bottom seemed to not be persistent somehow (after a reboot this was okay).
It's easy to go back to stock, except if you haven't backed everything up, have to reconfigure, add / subtract apps etc.
I'd suggest searching for the openKirin website, they seem to be doing the most development. Also follow their directions, they worked for me and pretty easy.

Hi
How does one flash the "Openkirin_los_beta4" Iso to the Mate SE (BND-L34)? TWRP?? Fastboot??? what are the exact steps to not render it a paper weight again lol; Do you need Magisk-v16.0 to root it as well?

Scythe69 said:
Hi
How does one flash the "Openkirin_los_beta4" Iso to the Mate SE (BND-L34)? TWRP?? Fastboot??? what are the exact steps to not render it a paper weight again lol; Do you need Magisk-v16.0 to root it as well?
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https://openkirin.net/user_guide/openkirin-rom-installation-instructions/

zackzuse said:
This looks sweet, but the instruction on this site say I need my custom bootloader,and i can't find a guide how to do that. i have TWRP
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No, you don't need a custom bootloader.
You only need unlocked bootloader and unlocked frp.
TWRP is not supported on OpenKirin ROMs (especially on 7x twrp won't work).
You just need to flash the .img file through bootloader and then reboot to recovery and do a factory data reset.

Can anyone give me some advice: I have the Mate SE, currently on EMUI 8.0.0.332 (security update available but not installed), with TWRP and Magisk. I would love to install a custom ROM, but the OpenKirin site says TWRP isn't supported. Can I still install one of those builds and just expect no support if something goes wrong, or should I find some way to return to full stock before flashing? And if I need stock recovery, where can I find a download for it? I haven't had any luck on searching here yet.

Install Android 9.0 Pie on Honor 7X – AOSP 9.0 Pie ROM

youssef alonso said:
Install Android 9.0 Pie on Honor 7X – AOSP 9.0 Pie ROM
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Has anyone tried this custom ROM? I would love to hear some success stories before possibly bricking my device

awlonsky said:
Has anyone tried this custom ROM? I would love to hear some success stories before possibly bricking my device
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Pretty much any GSI works so long as you have updated to EMUI 8 sometime in the past.

Pre-Sales question

Hi all,
I am completely new to the Xiaomi world (I prefer stock Android and easy root usually), but I got an excellent offer to buy this beast today.
I will buy this device, only if the following is possible.
- Unlock bootloader
- Root with Magisk
- Pass Safetynet check
- Install AFWall
- Install Adaway
Has anybody done this yet?
I don't want to know "how" (I can ask/figure out that later). I just want to know whether it is possible/relatively straight forward?
Thanks!

palmdude said:
Hi all,
I am completely new to the Xiaomi world (I prefer stock Android and easy root usually), but I got an excellent offer to buy this beast today.
I will buy this device, only if the following is possible.
- Unlock bootloader
- Root with Magisk
- Pass Safetynet check
- Install AFWall
- Install Adaway
Has anybody done this yet?
I don't want to know "how" (I can ask/figure out that later). I just want to know whether it is possible/relatively straight forward?
Thanks!
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Yes, all done. Very easy and straightforward. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for best miui experience or latest AICP Oreo treble rom for 95-99% working Android stock experience. Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu and have all except afwall on mine since I don't use that app.
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
If you go with any other version, check out my buggy vendor thread to flash to xiaomi.eu rom easily.

opasha said:
Yes, all done. Very easy and straightforward. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for best miui experience or latest AICP Oreo treble rom for 95-99% working Android stock experience. Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu and have all except afwall on mine since I don't use that app.
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
If you go with any other version, check out my buggy vendor thread to flash to xiaomi.eu rom easily.
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Quick follow up question. Is it possible to keep encryption on the userdata partition with the latest TWRP? I really like if my data is encrypted.
opasha said:
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
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Thanks for the hint!

I guess keeping encryption seems to be possible? Using the unofficial TWRP by @nijel8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-1-nitrogen-t3866084
Right?
Thanks @nijel8 and @opasha ! I am glad we have geniuses like you on this device.

palmdude said:
I guess keeping encryption seems to be possible? Using the unofficial TWRP by @nijel8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-1-nitrogen-t3866084
Right?
Thanks @nijel8 and @opasha ! I am glad we have geniuses like you on this device.
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Encryption is possible. @nijel8 will have more knowledge since he created a modded TWRP. See this thread regarding encryption: https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/help/encrypt-phone-t3845117/amp/
You are most welcome :highfive:.

Thanks again. I will order now.
Talk to you all again in 720 hours

I got my device today. I like it!! I got the global version 9.6.7.0.
Looks like I "only" need to wait 360 hours to unlock
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I have a three more questions now.
#1 Is there a reason not to use this global 9.6.7.0 ROM (other than the ads). Are there any big bugs in this global version? If not, I will probably start rooting this version first Should I update the global version?
#2 You mentioned
opasha said:
Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu
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There seem be to many newer versions than that. And also a "MIUI 10.0/10.1 STABLE RELEASE" (oct 24th). Is there a reason you are still on that old version?
#3 I understand not having ARB is better if you need to downgrade (without bricking). Is there a reason to downgrade frequently in the Xiaomi world? Is this because people need to switch back and forth between the Chinese and global ROM? And since I have the global version, can I ignore ARB?

palmdude said:
I got my device today. I like it!! I got the global version 9.6.7.0.
Looks like I "only" need to wait 360 hours to unlock
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I have a three more questions now.
#1 Is there a reason not to use this global 9.6.7.0 ROM (other than the ads). Are there any big bugs in this global version? If not, I will probably start rooting this version first Should I update the global version?
#2 You mentioned
There seem be to many newer versions than that. And also a "MIUI 10.0/10.1 STABLE RELEASE" (oct 24th). Is there a reason you are still on that old version?
#3 I understand not having ARB is better if you need to downgrade (without bricking). Is there a reason to downgrade frequently in the Xiaomi world? Is this because people need to switch back and forth between the Chinese and global ROM? And since I have the global version, can I ignore ARB?
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1) EU is just better (has more features baked in - universal face unlock, theme store, etc), less bloated, and more updated.
2) Stable release is fine, but I just prefer beta updates - faster fixes, more features introduced, and tested more by users = more feedback.
I'm on 8.8.9 eu strictly because:
a) It's pretty flawless for me.
b) If it's not broken why fix it? I haven't seen anything worth jumping ship for.
c) It's NON-ARB; I'll only upgrade to ARB if and once I see a better working pie release (coming soon supposedly) because a data wipe may be necessary. I'll use migrate app (faster than titanium backup) to backup all my apps and then restore them onto the new rom.
3) Honestly, having ARB is not a big issue especially since the updated EU roms are solid. However, my points back in number 2 still stand. You can flash to and back from treble gsi roms on ARB and NON-ARB without any issues. However, no matter what anyone tells you, gsi roms for our phone are not perfect. They're only 95% usable. They are still missing mono speaker, volte, and some other things that some say are working without evidence or thorough testing. @MrColdbird just tested a few of the latest if not all of the gsi roms, and he's in agreement with me - they're almost there, but not 100% yet. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for a complete rom. Just my humble opinion .
If you have any other questions, just ask. I hope this was informative enough.

@opasha @MrColdbird
Have u guys tried latest AOSPExtended Pie GSI? I loved this rom on my previous device.
https://downloads.aospextended.com/download/treble_gsi/pie_arm64_aonly/AospExtended-v6.0-arm64_aonly-20181117-0000-OFFICIAL.zip
Currently I'm also on 8.8.9 run and waiting for Pie build.
Anyone tried cutting of files from firmwareupdate folder to avoid ARB activation.
I've found solution that cutting firmware folder, leaving only files associated with modem shouldn't break anything and won't trigger ARB. Is it working on latest eu builds?
Files that allegedly have to stay in firmwareupate folder to not trigger arb:
.BTFM.bin
cmnlib.mbn
cmnlib64.mbn
devcfg.mbn
dspso.bin
NON_HLOS.bin
splash.img
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If anyone tested please confirm

opasha said:
If you have any other questions, just ask. I hope this was informative enough.
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Thanks! And yes, this was very informative and helpful! Thanks for your time.
Regarding
> I'm on 8.8.9 eu strictly because ... It's NON-ARB
I was under the impression that EU is non-arb by design?
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/do-eu-roms-remove-anti-rollback.47145/#post-451617
I guess I haven't understood this ARB stuff 100% yet? And obviously this is a moving target. Posts only one or two months might be already outdated haha
Having said that, you convinced me about Eu.
And I guess in 15 days there will be new developments anyway (no pun intended).

Question [Poco F3] Is it worth changing over to the EU ROM over from Global ROM

I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)

only one way to find out

Xyril07 said:
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
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Not worth it, the changes are very little, like e.g. added Ads toggle directly in the initial Android Setup and probably other very minor stuff.
Unless you're talking about Xiaomi.eu which is a Custom ROM. I personally use it and can recommend it. Latest MIUI from China, optimised for rest of the world. Advantages are more features and in-house apps like MIUI Phone (with Call Recording), MIUI Contacts, Xiaomi Health, etc..

dreamytom said:
Not worth it, the changes are very little, like e.g. added Ads toggle directly in the initial Android Setup and probably other very minor stuff.
Unless you're talking about Xiaomi.eu which is a Custom ROM. I personally use it and can recommend it. Latest MIUI from China, optimised for rest of the world. Advantages are more features and in-house apps like MIUI Phone (with Call Recording), MIUI Contacts, Xiaomi Health, etc..
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Wait I'm confused?
Xiaomi.eu is different from the EU ROM?
Does that mean that the particular ROM you're using is actually a Custom ROM (From the community rather than from developers/ POCO themselves)
If so, what exactly are the advantages it provides aside from the one you mentioned? How about substance?
And does that mean that it is outside the realm of being official, and therefore not ideal to someone like me looking to stick to stock everything to avoid the hassle and headache?
Thank you!

Xyril07 said:
Wait I'm confused?
Xiaomi.eu is different from the EU ROM?
Does that mean that the particular ROM you're using is actually a Custom ROM (From the community rather than from developers/ POCO themselves)
If so, what exactly are the advantages it provides aside from the one you mentioned? How about substance?
And does that mean that it is outside the realm of being official, and therefore not ideal to someone like me looking to stick to stock everything to avoid the hassle and headache?
Thank you!
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Yes 100% different. Many get confused about this because of the website's name.
It's very much a Custom ROM, but very stable, since it just takes the latest MIUI ROM from China (China gets the latest ROM first, because Xiaomi is chinese). The community devs also did a few adjustments to make the chinese MIUI ROM suitable for the rest of the world, like adding Google Services which China doesn't use, etc..

I'm not sure if you can flash the Official EU ROM without having to unlock the bootloader. I think you can.
But for Xiaomi.eu you definitely need to unlock it. For me personally it was worth it, but I'm also very specific about my customisations and also always unlock & root my Android devices.

dreamytom said:
Yes 100% different. Many get confused about this because of the website's name.
It's very much a Custom ROM, but very stable, since it just takes the latest MIUI ROM from China (China gets the latest ROM first, because Xiaomi is chinese). The community devs also did a few adjustments to make the chinese MIUI ROM suitable for the rest of the world, like adding Google Services which China doesn't use, etc..
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Damn.
Do you personally recommend going through the hassle of switching over to Xiaomi.eu, as someone who wants to stick to stock as much as possible but also want the best ideal experience (best battery life, general quality of life stuff)
I also wanna avoid stuff like bootlooping, issues with my warranty, not being able to go back to the official state of the phone etc.
Can you also comment on the opinions I see mostly saying that there is better battery over at Xiaomi.eu. and if so by how much? Are talking an extra hour or two on your screen on time and general battery life? Or at best a couple of minutes?
Thank you

Xyril07 said:
Damn.
Do you personally recommend going through the hassle of switching over to Xiaomi.eu, as someone who wants to stick to stock as much as possible but also want the best ideal experience (best battery life, general quality of life stuff)
I also wanna avoid stuff like bootlooping, issues with my warranty, not being able to go back to the official state of the phone etc.
Can you also comment on the opinions I see mostly saying that there is better battery over at Xiaomi.eu. and if so by how much? Are talking an extra hour or two on your screen on time and general battery life? Or at best a couple of minutes?
Thank you
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Hm. Well, Global and EU ROMs are always behind China ROM and Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM.
First thing you'd notice is the Xiaomi apps like Phone, Contacts, and other Xiaomi apps being improved and having a modern Design. You also get new features like Horizontal Recents-Menu, ability to smoothly adjust Font-Thickness. And probably more obvious stuff.
It's been a long time since I last used Stock ROM, but.. battery life is the same.
Also: When people claim much improved battery life on Vanilla Android ROMs or other specific ROMs, take them with a grain of salt, unless these people do scientific tests.
There's always variation, and it highly depends on the features that are enabled, your apps and its services that are running in the background and other stuff like your specific brightness setting.
You may get bootlooping when trying out Custom ROMs, that can happen, but you can always revert back to Stock ROM. You just need to do research on how to flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP, how to flash a Custom ROM and how to revert back to a Stock ROM.
Unlocking Bootloader and using Custom ROM is probably not covered under warranty, but if you can, you can revert to Stock, lock the bootloader, and say "I haven't modified my phone's software", they wouldn't know.
The best MIUI experience is Xiaomi.eu in my opinion, however you have to take time in doing research about TWRP, Xiaomi.eu, Mi Flash (to revert to Stock if sh*t goes wrong), and yeah.
From Global to EU ROM (Official) however, is not worth it at all. No differences basically.

dreamytom said:
Hm. Well, Global and EU ROMs are always behind China ROM and Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM.
First thing you'd notice is the Xiaomi apps like Phone, Contacts, and other Xiaomi apps being improved and having a modern Design. You also get new features like Horizontal Recents-Menu, ability to smoothly adjust Font-Thickness. And probably more obvious stuff.
It's been a long time since I last used Stock ROM, but.. battery life is the same.
Also: When people claim much improved battery life on Vanilla Android ROMs or other specific ROMs, take them with a grain of salt, unless these people do scientific tests.
There's always variation, and it highly depends on the features that are enabled, your apps and its services that are running in the background and other stuff like your specific brightness setting.
You may get bootlooping when trying out Custom ROMs, that can happen, but you can always revert back to Stock ROM. You just need to do research on how to flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP, how to flash a Custom ROM and how to revert back to a Stock ROM.
Unlocking Bootloader and using Custom ROM is probably not covered under warranty, but if you can, you can revert to Stock, lock the bootloader, and say "I haven't modified my phone's software", they wouldn't know.
The best MIUI experience is Xiaomi.eu in my opinion, however you have to take time in doing research about TWRP, Xiaomi.eu, Mi Flash (to revert to Stock if sh*t goes wrong), and yeah.
From Global to EU ROM (Official) however, is not worth it at all. No differences basically.
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What about OTA? From what I've read in the past, the Updater app in Xiaomi.eu just downloads the full package and we dirty flash the package it in TWRP. Is that still the case?

CharlieMHz said:
What about OTA? From what I've read in the past, the Updater app in Xiaomi.eu just downloads the full package and we dirty flash the package it in TWRP. Is that still the case?
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Yup, on Xiaomi.eu that is the case.
However it only takes 3 minutes to flash the ROM and to reboot. That's literally it.
It's possible for a system to work together with a Custom Recovery, in order to automatically flash updates, but apparently in 2021, we haven't gotten there yet.
I've heard of some Vanilla Android Custom ROMs having fully automatic OTA-updates. AICP or crDroid I think? Not sure..

There's two option with Custom MIUI ROM ( Bare minimum modifications or else there is Highly modifiable MIUI ROM's like OneOS, MIUI MIX, Hellas MIUI, XTRV, MIUIVN, MI-Globe, etc. ) , Xiaomi.eu weekly beta update and a Xiaomi.eu Stable update which are both based on chinese beta and stable as the name suggests. Personally, I use the Weekly update and i have not found any issues for which i would consider it a deal breaker. I am Rooted and happy. I will never go back to Stock ROM because of how poor the battery life was. And also to factor the google dialer and messages app. I do not like it.

I agree with everything @Animesh Singh said, except the Battery life part.

dreamytom said:
Sì, su Xiaomi.eu è così.
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Ho sentito parlare di alcune ROM personalizzate Android Vanilla con aggiornamenti OTA completamente automatici. AICP o crDroid penso? Non sono sicuro..
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Just to complete the list, even with Syberia I get the update via OTA.

pegasoc said:
Just to complete the list, even with Syberia I get the update via OTA.
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lol why is it in italian

dreamytom said:
lol why is it in italian
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I apologize, I got confused with the translator.

Xyril07 said:
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
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If you really like to more Google default apps than MIUI default apps such as Phone, Messages, Google Discover, etc. then changing from Global ROM to EU ROM from official MIUI site is good to go. Unlock the bootloader first then you can flash the EU ROM. Otherwise just stick with Global ROM, everything is same from performance, battery life, etc. But then again if you prefer a Custom ROM based on MIUI, then MIUI EU from Xiaomi-EU is better, it has better stability and more features as well since it is from Chinese ROM which always release earlier features and bug-fix improvement than the official MIUI ROM. Hope this help

You can check all xiaomi.eu features from the link below (scroll down a bit).
MIUI 12.0 - MIUI 12.0/12.1/12.2/12.5 STABLE RELEASE
STABLE RELEASE RULES WHEN POSTING 1. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK ABOUT ITS ETA 2. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK why! 3. If a ROM is available, download it and use it 4. If a ROM has bugs, post the bug to the bug section if the BUG is not already listed 5. If you use any form of...
xiaomi.eu
Notable features for me are:
Increased volume in headphones after some tweaking in sound settings, better standby and battery life, wallpaper carousel (it has an anime category in xiaomi.eu), better theme store imo because of the AOD category which i couldn't find in the global but most of the stuff is in chinese so it might not be as appealing for everyone, no ads etc

I have been looking at a Poco f3 5g. It will have the UK (EU?) Rom. Should I still try xiaomi.eu?
I have a mi 9t at the moment with pixel experience but I'm willing to give Xiaomi ROM another go.
I like Google dialer and messages app. I don't record calls and don't understand why people make a big deal of this?
Is there less bloat in the xiaomi.eu ROM compared to the official EU ROM?

causeway said:
I have been looking at a Poco f3 5g. It will have the UK (EU?) Rom. Should I still try xiaomi.eu?
I have a mi 9t at the moment with pixel experience but I'm willing to give Xiaomi ROM another go.
I like Google dialer and messages app. I don't record calls and don't understand why people make a big deal of this?
Is there less bloat in the xiaomi.eu ROM compared to the official EU ROM?
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I have read somewhere that xiaomi.eu have some significant better stuff, i think it was on reddit. I ordered mine yesterday, my Poco F3 comes with the Global ROM so i am also thinking on flashing it to xiaomi.eu or to the Official EU ROM, i am still thinking more about changing to the EU ROM other than xiaomi.eu since it's official and it's the first time i am thinking about flahing a phone, is it possible to change from official Global ROM to official EU ROM and if so, do you know how can i do it?

I personnly wouldnt bother still got bloat like virus scanner pretty sure it Avast with a diffrent stamp dont care for the music and video apps to much bloat , the themes app sucks to ,, gonna flash something make it worth your while like Arrow

Question what about twrp guys? :(

hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?

Evon88 said:
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
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What device and firmware?

TheGhost1951 said:
What device and firmware?
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i want to buy normal OP9P

Evon88 said:
i want to buy normal OP9P
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The OnePlus 9 pro is good for customizing!

@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)

Evon88 said:
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
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You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.

Evon88 said:
i want to buy normal OP9P
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Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499

MJPollard said:
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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Bugscze said:
You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
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There's a user/team on the >OnePlus 6 & 6T forums<, that has had success with Android 12 and 13 decrypt, I use it on my 6T, and decrypt works flawlessly, I use it to flash Magisk when changing/updating ROMs.
It's Unofficial however, I hope it trickles to other devices.

Appreciative said:
Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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thank you sir, what about chinese version? u recommend it? im pro at rooting and customs and msm, if the problem is just roms, i see used chinese new mobile, u recommend me to buy?

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MJPollard said:
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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thank you bro for explain, what do you think about chinese OP9P? i can change the rom, 5G i dont care that much, anthing else? is quality the same like hardware and plastic and fiber and this things? i mean phone body and screen

Bugscze said:
You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
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thanks, <3

Evon88 said:
thank you sir, what about chinese version? u recommend it? im pro at rooting and customs and msm, if the problem is just roms, i see used chinese new mobile, u recommend me to buy?
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All of them are made in china and I think will be good quality OnePlus phone. I don't know if they use anything different (except rom). You can change from colorOS to oxygenOS

twrp not needed

vincemue said:
twrp not needed
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Needed, maybe not. Desired, definitely. It can do a lot of things that the stock and AOSP recoveries simply can't (to name just one: it can wipe data without wiping storage, as I mentioned above; stock/AOSP recoveries' "factory reset" wipe destroys everything).

MJPollard said:
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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I was on LE2127_11_C20 A12 with tarp and root.......the mail reason it worked was no lock screen security. I did try with setting a password is be cause a script to try and make partitions R/W but that put me in a bootloader loop. Went back to 11.2.9.9..

Did you follow a YouTube tutorial step by step guide to see if you made any mistakes?

dartballs said:
Did you follow a YouTube tutorial step by step guide to see if you made any mistakes?
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Who are you asking?

Appreciative said:
Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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The Indian variant has dual SIM. Maybe some others variants, too.