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Cut features - What I miss in Windows Phone7.5 Mango that was in WP7

There are many, many (and more to come) new featurs in 7.5 and I love them all!
But I miss something in WP 7.5 (7.10.7712.60):
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1.
Was nice when listening to long audiofiles. (also on lockscreen)
WP7___________________________________________________WP7.5
2.
The "search website" features is missing
3.
Please MS, let us change the reload icon/button to the tabs or favorites icon/button!
4.
The Imagequality when uploading from picture hub to Facebook is horrible now!
5.
The colors have been renamed. i.a. limettengrün to lindgrün.
Some (all?) of them (I noticed it on limettengrün/limegreen) are less colorful
Do U miss more features from WP7.5 that was in 7?
6.
Several Members: Transparent lockscreen wallpapers gone (IMO this isn't a cut feature, some of us just used a glitch...)
7.
jakelou said:
Editing (saving) old Word files (97-03) ... doesn't work anymore. -.-
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Whoa, and I thought the picture quality was horrible already in WP7 NoDo.
Hope its not worse, maybe just a bug that now appeared on your phone too?

Damn they removed that track timer in MANGO??? Thats so important.. no bar showing length?

I miss the old browser, don't really like how the new one is set up now
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Don't forget, they removed transparent wallpapers too. I was looking forward to this feature.

alexrodri0 said:
I miss the old browser, don't really like how the new one is set up now
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Why so?
I think the new placement of url etc is awesome.
What is it that is bad?

I don't think there'll be one single update,wp7 is too big a mess to solve in one swoop. Next year April probably we'll be smiling from ear to ear and sideloading apps we haven't even thought of. Until then its slim pickings,should have waited for the bloody Nokia.
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However as a Chinese user I have to upgrade to Mango to get the CHinese IME...

Dj21o said:
Don't forget, they removed transparent wallpapers too. I was looking forward to this feature.
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My current wallpaper is transparent..

Dj21o said:
Don't forget, they removed transparent wallpapers too. I was looking forward to this feature.
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I'm wondering if the transparent wallpaper "feature" was actually a bug that we just took advantage off. I noticed that the squares in various hubs, such as office and picture, no longer go transparent when I move from page to page like they did before mango.

Yeah I'm pretty sure wasn't a feature, it was more of a hack

Purple11 said:
My current wallpaper is transparent..
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Yeah man, they had to do something with Zune on the lockscreen, and it made it a huge mess. It's too bad, I did it to my friends focus and it looked beautiful. And I don't own a WP7 currently, so I will never get to enjoy it.
Maybe if we get a poll going, we could bring this to Microsoft's attention?

nizzon said:
Why so?
I think the new placement of url etc is awesome.
What is it that is bad?
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well i miss the favs button and the tabs button being on the screen, instead of having to use the menu, i honestly didnt mind the URL bar at the top, but whatever, I cant wait for the official Mango update to come out

Editing (saving) old Word files (97-03) ... doesn't work anymore. -.-

I have to agree about the browser. It's not a make or break problem for me, but is kind of annoying to have that extra step. I also wish they'd give IE a Forward/Back Button instead of using the hardware Back button. Would be nice for the URL to be on top & auto-hide, swipe down to show it in portrait & landscape. Make it thicker since it'd auto hide. Just my 2 cents on it.
Also, don't like them (MS) breaking homebrew native app (INTEROPSERVICES). That is a big deal for me. That's the main reason I'm not using the Beta2. The new features are nice, but the lack of homebrew kills it for me.

Dj21o said:
Yeah man, they had to do something with Zune on the lockscreen, and it made it a huge mess. It's too bad, I did it to my friends focus and it looked beautiful. And I don't own a WP7 currently, so I will never get to enjoy it.
Maybe if we get a poll going, we could bring this to Microsoft's attention?
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https://windowsphone7community.uservoice.com/forums/84435-feature-feedback
If you put it up there, i'll vote for it.

Quick little template of my idea, not perfect, but you get the point.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

hardcoreplur said:
https://windowsphone7community.uservoice.com/forums/84435-feature-feedback
If you put it up there, i'll vote for it.
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Going on my laptop as we speak.

Ok I put it under "personalize" and the title is "Transparent Lockscreen (Wallpapers)". Vote for it if you missed this feature!!!
https://windowsphone7community.uservoice.com/forums/84435-feature-feedback/suggestions/2107533-transparent-lockscreen-wallpapers-

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Quick little template of my idea, not perfect, but you get the point.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/drkfngthdragnlrd/IE9Idea.png?t=1312429620
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pretty nice concept, that would be a perfect setup

New note 7 Update notification system changed

Anyway to switch back to the old notifications appearance? I don't like the new notifications pull down with the app icons, looks too bulky and in your face and quite child like, the first iteration of the note 7 (pre-update) looked alot more slick and professional. Just wondered if anybody noticed this and if their is anything we can do about it.

Looks like we're stuck with it.
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webelieveInGodButDoHeinUs said:
Anyway to switch back to the old notifications appearance? I don't like the new notifications pull down with the app icons, looks too bulky and in your face and quite child like, the first iteration of the note 7 (pre-update) looked alot more slick and professional. Just wondered if anybody noticed this and if their is anything we can do about it.
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Screenshots?
I haven't noticed a difference.
Old:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
New:
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Jmitr, you haven't gotten the same update we have yet.
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yeah that new one is a bit horrid compared to the original but looks like no way to change it back.

rcobourn said:
Jmitr, you haven't gotten the same update we have yet.
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Ah. Our update in Canada was considerably smaller. No gimping of old devices to 60% either.
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We didn't get gimped, but do get a notice about the recall whenever charging.
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And this isn't just the result of a setting like content scaling?
Why Tmobile only? Odd no...
Although my VZ still has the old style full setting menu.

Are you guys also getting the awful grouping of notifications? If you have more than one notification for the same app, they are clumped together now and you can't see what they are until you tap to expand them. Totally defeats the whole "at a glance" notification concept.

Yes.
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rcobourn said:
Jmitr, you haven't gotten the same update we have yet.
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Mine was like this from day 1. Wtf

Yes, so annoying and no option to choose between individual and grouped notification...

Omg, Samsung keeps finding ways to make this worse, like if the new green battery icon was not enough, now they get even further away from Google guidelines by ditching the cards style notifications? Guess I'll switch to the Pixel XL or OP3. Note 7 had everything to be the king and for the first time I was enjoying the Samsung UI with Grace UX, no more however...

Heinous said:
Are you guys also getting the awful grouping of notifications? If you have more than one notification for the same app, they are clumped together now and you can't see what they are until you tap to expand them. Totally defeats the whole "at a glance" notification concept.
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yep its bloody awful the big arrow they stuck on it

Heinous said:
Are you guys also getting the awful grouping of notifications? If you have more than one notification for the same app, they are clumped together now and you can't see what they are until you tap to expand them. Totally defeats the whole "at a glance" notification concept.
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yep I'm getting that as well it's a pain in the arse.
jackdforme said:
And this isn't just the result of a setting like content scaling?
Why Tmobile only? Odd no...
Although my VZ still has the old style full setting menu.
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O2 in the UK has the same horrid notification, it didn't at first.

I'm in the US and didn't get an update to change notification panel at all. I got the green battery symbol (which I kinda like) but that's it. Everything else looks normal

webelieveInGodButDoHeinUs said:
Anyway to switch back to the old notifications appearance? I don't like the new notifications pull down with the app icons, looks too bulky and in your face and quite child like, the first iteration of the note 7 (pre-update) looked alot more slick and professional. Just wondered if anybody noticed this and if their is anything we can do about it.
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Unfortunately, I have T-mobile and the update changed the notifications to this garbage. My friend is on att and his update only changed the battery icon. I could find no way to disable the grouping. :/
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Ugh, horrible.

My old note 7 was transparant where it said "clear all". Now its solid light gray. Anyway to get the transparent "clear all" back?
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Heinous said:
Are you guys also getting the awful grouping of notifications? If you have more than one notification for the same app, they are clumped together now and you can't see what they are until you tap to expand them. Totally defeats the whole "at a glance" notification concept.
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I don't mind this for Tapatalk and Twitter because they are so "noisy" with updates, but I definitely don't like it for the launcher, where it is grouping charging, weather and other things,I want to see all launcher notifications independently.
P.s here in Australia, the unbranded N7 got this particular update 1 week after launch, then of course we all got the 60% update a couple of days ago..
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Novarider said:
I'm in the US and didn't get an update to change notification panel at all. I got the green battery symbol (which I kinda like) but that's it. Everything else looks normal
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Same here with AT&T. Everything still the same.

[APP] Smart Touch(Button) instead of Nav bar or Pie

3x bla
if you are familiar with the Fly Me OS(Meizu's) and its magical Smart Touch feature, you may want to try this one. Quite useful and very similar to original. App link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=smarttouch.uet.edu.smarttouch

Well thanks buddy
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Konsstantine34 said:
3x bla
if you are familiar with the Fly Me OS(Meizu's) and its magical Smart Touch feature, you may want to try this one. Quite useful and very similar to original. App link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=smarttouch.uet.edu.smarttouch
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I must say that I am using this app now and it is amazing! Thank you my friend! ?

Swarai said:
I must say that I am using this app now and it is amazing! Thank you my friend! ?
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You're welcome. That was one of the best feature on my Meizu device which has no navigation nor physical buttons. So i completely disabled my navigation bar and started using this on mix. So far so good. Glad to know that you liked. [emoji106]
Mi MIX
7.3.30 Épic

Konsstantine34 said:
You're welcome. That was one of the best feature on my Meizu device which has no navigation nor physical buttons. So i completely disabled my navigation bar and started using this on mix. So far so good. Glad to know that you liked. [emoji106]
Mi MIX
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I tried this app but it doesn't show when i go on the home screen. I have granted all permission.
It's working now

Konsstantine34 said:
You're welcome. That was one of the best feature on my Meizu device which has no navigation nor physical buttons. So i completely disabled my navigation bar and started using this on mix. So far so good. Glad to know that you liked. [emoji106]
Mi MIX
7.3.30 Épic
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Guess what my friend? I have found 2 apps. One is a better version of the quick ball. The other is phenomenal.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ksxkq.floating&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mixiaoxiao.touchassistant&hl=en

Swarai said:
Guess what my friend? I have found 2 apps. One is a better version of the quick ball. The other is phenomenal.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ksxkq.floating&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mixiaoxiao.touchassistant&hl=en
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I couldn't get the app suggested by OP to work for whatever reason. But the second app you suggested (zone assistive touch) is incredible. Always thought quick ball was too big and not transparent enough, but this gives you options to change both. Also, additional functionality, especially quick switch between 2 recent apps, is a godsend. The only minus compared to quick ball is swipe to edge of screen to hide..But that's a small price to pay imo

cazcryy said:
I couldn't get the app suggested by OP to work for whatever reason. But the second app you suggested (zone assistive touch) is incredible. Always thought quick ball was too big and not transparent enough, but this gives you options to change both. Also, additional functionality, especially quick switch between 2 recent apps, is a godsend. The only minus compared to quick ball is swipe to edge of screen to hide..But that's a small price to pay imo
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Smart touch has gott all the features you mentioned. Transparency, size, extra functions, ability to place it everywhere, hide when keyboard is on(nonsense if you dont use nav bar), also it has got edge applications as a bonus.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
So to make this app persistent; you have to give all the permissions in application's settings like Pop-up display etc. Just do these if you still willing to try(Process order might be wrong but do all these):
Mi MIX
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I've been using Smart Touch for about 3 weeks and it has made my Mix experience so much better. One-handed usability is possible now and I can permanently hide the nav bar. Also, I love that you can customize it to fit your needs. Thanks OP for bringing this app into the spotlight.

DainnCrowley said:
I've been using Smart Touch for about 3 weeks and it has made my Mix experience so much better. One-handed usability is possible now and I can permanently hide the nav bar. Also, I love that you can customize it to fit your needs. Thanks OP for bringing this app into the spotlight.
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You're very welcome [emoji106]
Mi MIX
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Konsstantine34 said:
Smart touch has gott all the features you mentioned. Transparency, size, extra functions, ability to place it everywhere, hide when keyboard is on(nonsense if you dont use nav bar), also it has got edge applications as a bonus.
So to make this app persistent; you have to give all the permissions in application's settings like Pop-up display etc. Just do these if you still willing to try(Process order might be wrong but do all these):
Mi MIX
7.4.6 Épic
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Thanks for the detailed post.
I'll give it another go and see which I like better.

Konsstantine34 said:
3x bla
if you are familiar with the Fly Me OS(Meizu's) and its magical Smart Touch feature, you may want to try this one. Quite useful and very similar to original. App link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=smarttouch.uet.edu.smarttouch
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Thanks mate, I tried the app out for about an hour or so. I found it to be quite useful and nifty, unfortunately the app contains too many adverts and I don't really like the idea of having a floating icon in the middle of the screen.
What I like about Pie control is the fact that the triggering method is hidden away from the screen. In my opinion, Pie control is a more intuitive design and offers a smoother user experience.
Nevertheless, thanks for recommending the app. :good:

MadCow809 said:
Thanks mate, I tried the app out for about an hour or so. I found it to be quite useful and nifty, unfortunately the app contains too many adverts and I don't really like the idea of having a floating icon in the middle of the screen.
What I like about Pie control is the fact that the triggering method is hidden away from the screen. In my opinion, Pie control is a more intuitive design and offers a smoother user experience.
Nevertheless, thanks for recommending the app. :good:
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Adds make me crazy but hey I don't enter into the app much lol. I don't like the persistent floating button on the screen too but it's way better than nav bar for me. I tried pie; using it is kinda harder than that button somehow. Side note i really liked the idea of GMD gestures app which has no button or pie but does the same job for me. Yet, returned to this button again lol. My 2 previous device has had this button natively which i liked it a lot, maybe this is the reason. Anyway, thanks for input. Everyone uses what they like, is the beauty of Android. [emoji38]

DP3 UX Operation/Visual Differences

So far I've noticed the following. Note this list doesn't include obvious things like "the recent menu now has a clear all". Also I have put this here because I suspect some of the topics will be "where did x go"? Moderators, feel free to move this to the discussion forum if you want.
1. Unfortunately Google has severely toned down or else removed many of the navigation-related animations that were present in DP2. I loved them...
2. The color mode preview image in settings is now a hummingbird instead of simply a drab background.
3. The AOD now has the At A Glance weather image tacked onto the date portion. This includes color, as my display currently has a yellow sun mark.
4. Using gesture navigation, it is now much easier to actually call up the recent list: it kind of pops in place now, aided by haptic feedback that some on Reddit are already complaining about.
5. The "separation icon" that replaced the mini arrow above the homescreen's docked apps is now gone entirely.
6. Haptic feedback overall feels much stronger than before.
7. Some language-translation things have been fixed, yet new ones have appeared. For reference I have my phone set to Japanese and the "Support" tab in Settings is now listed in English whereas before the title was in Japanese, and the gesture navigation setting is now titled in Japanese whereas before it was in English.
8. The OS version is now listed as 9, instead of P.
9. The Sharing menu setting now includes a tab of "previously paired" devices.
10. The home screen now requires manual setting to allow rotation when auto-rotate isn't enabled.
11. The native scaling seems to have been adjusted (or broken) as the navigation bar-based clock seems to either be smaller than before, or else glitch between large and smaller.

Anyone know how to get rid of this? The squashed notification when the quick settings is fully expanded?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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Clear your notifications
biggiestuff said:
Anyone know how to get rid of this? The squashed notification when the quick settings is fully expanded?View attachment 4520686
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I don't want to clear it. I want to interact with it. Sometimes it's hard to reach a notification so I use a gesture to expand the quick settings tile further so I can hit reply or Mark as read.
EeZeEpEe said:
Clear your notifications
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So you want full quick settings expansion AND full notifications at the same time? Has it ever been like that? I can't recall.
biggiestuff said:
I don't want to clear it. I want to interact with it. Sometimes it's hard to reach a notification so I use a gesture to expand the quick settings tile further so I can hit reply or Mark as read.
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EeZeEpEe said:
So you want full quick settings expansion AND full notifications at the same time? Has it ever been like that? I can't recall.
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Yes. That's how I interact with notifications I can't reach.
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TokyoGuy said:
. . . The AOD now has the At A Glance weather image tacked onto the date portion. This includes color, as my display currently has a yellow sun mark. . .
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It's been there forewer if you didn't update Google app . . .
Since most of the users did, it dissapeared. For me it was there for the whole Beta 1 stage, earlier I didn't pay attention to it.
Now Playing now works consistentlly, when you double tap on the song, it takes you to Asistant directly with more info displayed.

EeZeEpEe said:
So you want full quick settings expansion AND full notifications at the same time? Has it ever been like that? I can't recall.
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biggiestuff said:
Yes. That's how I interact with notifications I can't reach.
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Well, it's that way on 8.1. Must be the "new and improved" Google notification thingy ??

Yeah I already forgot. LOL. Guess I never interacted with notifications with the quick settings all the way down.
Badger50 said:
Well, it's that way on 8.1. Must be the "new and improved" Google notification thingy [emoji16][emoji23]
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EeZeEpEe said:
Yeah I already forgot. LOL. Guess I never interacted with notifications with the quick settings all the way down.
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Yeah I already forgot. LOL. Guess I never interacted with notifications with the quick settings all the way down.
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What's the deal with all the double posts I've been seeing on many of these threads?? Must be that time of month for xda labs! ???

Ah. Didn't see it get posted the first time.
Badger50 said:
What's the deal with all the double posts I've been seeing on many of these threads?? Must be that time of month for xda labs! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Nacho Notch

If you don't like the notch, try Nacho Notch on Play Store. Behold!
Before (unfortunately screen shot apparently folks in the horror of the notch.)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
and after. You still get icons at the top, so no wasted space. Google should do this as an option.
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Was the first thing I dled. Works great. When you get immersive mode going it's pretty much perfect at that point.

Works well on Pixel 3XL, but when an app uses immersive mode (full screen), I would like to have an option to automatically "show the notch" again.
For example, if I am using an app that in immersive mode is showing things in the notch area (left and right), then with Natcho Notch enabled it is all black instead.
Any chance to have this option?

Is there a way to hide the notch notification?

micks_address said:
Is there a way to hide the notch notification?
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Turn off the notifications for the app

Only reason I don't use it is that the nav buttons become nearly invisible on a white nav bar. The app has an option to always make the nav bar black, but the fact that it also does this on the launcher makes it a no-go.

yearn2burn said:
If you don't like the notch, try Nacho Notch on Play Store. Behold!
Before (unfortunately screen shot apparently folks in the horror of the notch.)
and after. You still get icons at the top, so no wasted space. Google should do this as an option.
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Much better, thanks for sharing this.

I was using Nacho Notch and after a few hours it stopped working. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app, clearing data, cache, you name it. I've since started using Status Bar & Notch Customizer and haven't had a problem.

I think I know what I'm going to get by asking but I'm being sincere.
What do people hate so much about getting extra room? Putting this side by side with my 2xl and it's obvious there's just more room for activities. I don't see any way turning off that part of the display has an advantage. If I imagine drawing the notch into my 2xl, that space is actually already empty anyway.
Devices with secondary displays for notifications or things like eink on the back never really took off, but they never got this kind of hate either.
I keep thinking I must be missing something obvious.

epsalmond said:
What do people hate so much about getting extra room? Putting this side by side with my 2xl and it's obvious there's just more room for activities. I don't see any way turning off that part of the display has an advantage. If I imagine drawing the notch into my 2xl, that space is actually already empty anyway.
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I think it's just that the pixel's notch is bigger than it should be. I'm not a fan of notches in general, so I was more annoyed by the notch then the size of the notch, however after using it, I'm pretty indifferent in general to it. I did try nocho notch but it was a bit buggy like when you'd switch to landscape or immersive mode. Hiding notifications also doesn't help, it seemed to make the bugginess worse, so I gave up. I do agree the notch idea isn't bad, overall... they just should have done it like the nocho notch app does it but made it built into the OS (different then the developer mode which really is a waste of space) so it would work better.
I'm actually more annoyed by the proprietary wireless charging with the fake 'rapidly charging' then this whole notch thing.

However on release day, I pre-ordered, because I'm a gadget whore, and can't stand to be without the latest and greatest. After using for 2 and a half weeks now, I can say it doesn't bother me at all now. I tried using notcho notch, and I hated it. To me it looks worse than the notch. I also just tried turning it off in developer options, and I think that works better IMO, but then I got to worrying about burn in, so I went back to normal, and now I'm just used to it. It's not really that bad, and with all the other great things this device does, I've easily forgotten about it.

If someone wants to try this they are welcome. It will give you a black statusbar but it is for people that also use a third party navbar like LMT as this also removes the navbar (it becomes black as well so needs to be remove). The statusbar will be black on home screen as well.
This is an ADB Installer for Windows. Unzip on pc, attach phone to PC, run install.bat, give ADB root rights.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410932744536992569

Pixel 3 XL could fit two rows of icons in that notch, right? Would be great to have a large digital clock on the right and all other notification icons on the left.
Is this something Nacho Notch can do?

when immersive mode is enabled the volume rocker is half cut out in landscape mode....

virtyx said:
when immersive mode is enabled the volume rocker is half cut out in landscape mode....
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That's one of the reasons I switched to the Status Bar and Notch Customizer app, is doesn't have that problem.

airmaxx23 said:
That's one of the reasons I switched to the Status Bar and Notch Customizer app, is doesn't have that problem.
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can you explain the difference? i used nav bar hide and oneplus gestures and i get the same issue

virtyx said:
can you explain the difference? i used nav bar hide and oneplus gestures and i get the same issue
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It's just a different app to hide the notch but with more options.

Life with a notch
Coming from original pixel xl, This is my second day using the 3Xl abviously first time using a phone with the notch.
At first it's hard to get used to it, tried every possible solution to get rid of it but nothing gave a satisfactory result. I think unless Google release some solution, we are pretty much forced to use the notch.
This is my second day, I can say I'm already getting used to it. I think the initial 2days (depends on how OCD you are) may be hard to ignore the notch. Now it's grow on me and "looks just fine"
Anyway:
The problem using " nacho notch" is that (not the app, it the way android works)
1. It don't work on lockscreen or apps like YouTube
2. Makes the navbar white and hard to see (tried other navbar solutions but it's not as good as stock)
3. Might help screen burn on top
Thanks for reading

virtyx said:
when immersive mode is enabled the volume rocker is half cut out in landscape mode....
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If you edit the build.prop to disable the navigation bar instead of an app the volume rocker is fine in landscape mode.
Add this line to the bottom of the build prop and no more navigation bar and the volume rocker is good to go.
qemu.hw.mainkeys = 1
I'm using this, OnePlus gestures, and Nacho Notch and the phone is so much better.

bp328i said:
If you edit the build.prop to disable the navigation bar instead of an app the volume rocker is fine in landscape mode.
Add this line to the bottom of the build prop and no more navigation bar and the volume rocker is good to go.
qemu.hw.mainkeys = 1
I'm using this, OnePlus gestures, and Nacho Notch and the phone is so much better.
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Confirmed this works