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s6+ security updates

Since August, I've been receiving at least one update EVERY month.
This one is out - and it's not even the end of November.
Its unprecedented! Anyone else? I think Samsung is doing very well. And the phone is better with battery usage after every update.
I'm very impressed... anyone else?

November....

Wow.
December security update!
They're like clockwork now.
And....where's everyone gone?!

I also received the update today. 2 updates in a single month from Samsung!

salmanshah said:
I also received the update today. 2 updates in a single month from Samsung!
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I know!
I'm like....What's going on? Am I awake? ?
Still... it's good, no?
And my phone is running like silk.
Onward.

I confirm. I get one update each month with the date of security level set on the first day of the previous month.

Another one!
Loving it!
So much infact I just got my front and back screen replaced.
New-Found respect for my S6+!

Is the latest one from 1st January 2018?

androidbadboy said:
Is the latest one from 1st January 2018?
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Mines dated 5th of January

kolembo said:
Mines dated 5th of January
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I've did the update now and it still shows the 1st of January 2018.
Strange.

androidbadboy said:
I've did the update now and it still shows the 1st of January 2018.
Strange.
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It would be the same one just issues on a different day. It's January though.
Amazing.... The S6 Plus is updating faster than the Mate 9, OnePlus 3T & 5T, the HTC U11, the Xiaomi Mi6 & the S8 Plus.

kolembo said:
It would be the same one just issues on a different day. It's January though.
Amazing.... The S6 Plus is updating faster than the Mate 9, OnePlus 3T & 5T, the HTC U11, the Xiaomi Mi6 & the S8 Plus.
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From a marketing standpoint it is really amazing, cause Samsung made S6E+ too good. They would normally bury a too good phone.

Like clockwork.....

kolembo said:
Like clockwork.....
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What do You mean?

androidbadboy said:
What do You mean?
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Of all the phones I'm carrying...

androidbadboy said:
What do You mean?
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Of all the phones I'm carrying, the S6 edge plus is the only one getting updates every single month.
On time. Like clockwork.
It's pretty amazing.
Even my partner's 8+ is nowhere near it.

kolembo said:
Of all the phones I'm carrying, the S6 edge plus is the only one getting updates every single month.
On time. Like clockwork.
It's pretty amazing.
Even my partner's 8+ is nowhere near it.
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I read your reply today and I've checked if I have an update waiting for me aswell and it turns out although we live in different countrires in EU thre's an sec. update waiting for me.... about the same size.
But this one is strange. Even if full LTE signal It downloads very slowly. I wonder why?
BTW you have nice theme. Do you beleive I'm still runninng the stock defaut theme..... gosh...

I'm sure (I hope) You all (especialy XDA users) know the theory of making a device worse in performance (more lagging, lessm battery life etc.) by hidding a spcial code in sec. updates.
Well maybe that's what Samsung is doing cause like I've told You a thousand times S6E+ is (maybe until S9) the pbest fone release yet.
To motivate ppl to upgrade even from S8 Samsung may start rolling out bad updates.
Today I've talked to a guy that suddenly, 2-3 days after the premiere of S9/S9+ saw that his S8 has suddenly slowed down. He didn't install any new apps or did nothing unusual. Even didnt get the Oreo update.
Think about that.
I've isntalled the sec update. Have now from 1st Feb 2018 and for some time I see that espcially the battery life is going suddenly down.
You need to know that since I purchaed the phone I used it only once a month. Latley 4 times a month. Never installed more apps than 5. Even a loooong time ago after purchase I got rid of Microsoft apps and some other non Google and non Samsung.
Something fishy is about that.
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK about this situation with these updates?

Is there any way of getting security patches while using a custom rom?

DemonSoul said:
Is there any way of getting security patches while using a custom rom?
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Good question but I estimate 90% the answer would be NO

No oreo till august/september

There isn't any official announcement but. Seeing the pattern of providing update and the maintenance release notes for June patch. no one can expect Oreo till August/September as. It would take July to get updated security patch on every retail channel after which they will release another release which MAY be oreo. Which would actually take another month for full implementation.
Though I have created a tagline for Moto
"Lie like a pro
Lie like Moto"

Here's the Patch release Notes for g5splus

And here for Motog5plus
Sorry for error anyway here's the link
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095

s4shubham4u said:
And here for Motog5plus
Sorry for error anyway here's the link
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095
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And this is...the 12th or 13th thread regarding Oreo?
I don't know why this should be helpful.
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Wolfcity said:
And this is...the 12th or 13th thread regarding Oreo?
I don't know why this should be helpful.
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Cause It's in the news section and it's a news Sir.
As you can explicate the news as anything which is relevant to certain group or community and affect a large no of person is news.

Why are you still expecting after all this time!? They are not interested in giving Updates. Just Install any Custom Rom and Move on, because the discussion on this topic looks trash now!

Motorola os offcially releasong when the see the overall sales of G6 family has already satisfy / met expectations....or....nothing at all and theres no more options to release oreo...also..expect oreo release when Android P comes to everybody....im moving from Motonovo and going forward to Xiaomi or Huawei or Google Pixel or even back to HTC

Don't go to Huawei
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Motorola os offcially releasong when the see the overall sales of G6 family has already satisfy / met expectations....or....nothing at all and theres no more options to release oreo...also..expect oreo release when Android P comes to everybody....im moving from Motonovo and going forward to Xiaomi or Huawei or Google Pixel or even back to HTC
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I get your frustration with Motorola, but Huawei is much worse. They put out a public statement about major upgrades and patching and then did neither. Customer support was horrible.
Moto may suck, but Huawei sucks much more.
My 2 cents....

tomlogan1 said:
I get your frustration with Motorola, but Huawei is much worse. They put out a public statement about major upgrades and patching and then did neither. Customer support was horrible.
Moto may suck, but Huawei sucks much more.
My 2 cents....
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True. And this is nothing compared to Samsung.
S7 Oreo update: Buggy. Stopped. Two times.
S8 Oreo update: Buggy.
A3 Oreo update: Bootlooping.
Hell, I would never buy a Sammy.
Better a late and stable update than a quick and buggy one.
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Wolfcity said:
True. And this is nothing compared to Samsung.
S7 Oreo update: Buggy. Stopped. Two times.
S8 Oreo update: Buggy.
A3 Oreo update: Bootlooping.
Hell, I would never buy a Sammy.
Better a late and stable update than a quick and buggy one.
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The thing is that they could have started soak tests some time ago.. i mean that's what they are for... not in june/july, 1 year r after oreo release...

Rutambh said:
Why are you still expecting after all this time!? They are not interested in giving Updates. Just Install any Custom Rom and Move on, because the discussion on this topic looks trash now!
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Because I need it custom roms has issues with few of banking apps even magisk can't help

G5S Plus is apparently getting Oreo in the past 1 day or so
fingers crossed for G5 Plus
https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/2...us-started-receiving-android-8-1-oreo-update/
Edit- Only release notes went up, no one actually got OTA :crying::crying:
Now taken off

kkn14 said:
G5S Plus is apparently getting Oreo in the past 1 day or so
fingers crossed for G5 Plus
https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/2...us-started-receiving-android-8-1-oreo-update/
Edit- Only release notes went up, no one actually got OTA :crying::crying:
Now taken off
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This was days ago. Guys, calm down! About 20 threads in the news and q&a section about Oreo.
I had do unbookmark these threads because every day someone opens another thread with NO information and I get pinged. Please start opening theads when something really happens. I would like to receive Oreo too but these "news" doesn't help anyone. Nothing against this OP, it's the mass that is annoying.
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s4shubham4u said:
Because I need it custom roms has issues with few of banking apps even magisk can't help
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Install Xposed and Use Root Cloak
You can add the app from which you want to hide your root
I tried
and It worked :good::good:

Rutambh said:
Install Xposed and Use Root Cloak
You can add the app from which you want to hide your root
I tried
and It worked :good::good:
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Please provide me link also you can telegram me at same username

Rutambh said:
Why are you still expecting after all this time!? They are not interested in giving Updates. Just Install any Custom Rom and Move on, because the discussion on this topic looks trash now!
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I really want to, but those camera bugs on Oreo custom roms annoys me, so I'm using stock rom again and one reason that I bought this phone months ago is because Motorola said that it was going to update to Oreo, which is frustrating to not seeing it yet.

Oreo will happen.
It's just a matter of when?
We're just lower down the priority list than newer phones (like any other manufacturer).
We should hopefully be next after Moto G5S, so watch for when that starts rowling out.

Mi a2 lite where is Android 10 ?

The xiaomi mi a2 lite / mi a2 released in 2018 - and the AndroidOne phones will get Android update for tow years any know about Android 10? It's need to be released other Android one phones have the last Android one 10 update

Well... I don't think we gonna get it in December so maybe January. Meanwhile Huawei, Nokia, Samsung already started to roll out the Android 10 updates we have to wait. Seems like at xiaomi's miui is higher priority then Android one.

robin_vilensky_ said:
The xiaomi mi a2 lite / mi a2 released in 2018 - and the AndroidOne phones will get Android update for tow years any know about Android 10? It's need to be released other Android one phones have the last Android one 10 update
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I would rather wait for them to test and fix bugs fully before releasing it. I don't want them to release it when it's not ready.. just wait

andraslate said:
Well... I don't think we gonna get it in December so maybe January. Meanwhile Huawei, Nokia, Samsung already started to roll out the Android 10 updates we have to wait. Seems like at xiaomi's miui is higher priority then Android one.
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True mate ! Xiaomi ****ed the Android One project. Im totally disapointed ([email protected]!).

will they fffing fix the wifi/bluetooth problem finally with the Q update? I wouldn't be holding my breadth.....

glassop said:
will they fffing fix the wifi/bluetooth problem finally with the Q update? I wouldn't be holding my breadth.....
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Some people claim it's fixed in December update (hoping it also indicates that they are cleaning things up and fixing driver issues for Q update)

stmr said:
Some people claim it's fixed in December update (hoping it also indicates that they are cleaning things up and fixing driver issues for Q update)
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possibly it's a bit better but it's definitely not fixed.
wifi & bluetooth on - wifi speed is 1/3 of the speed with only wifi on

According to another nameless Xiaomi representative, we should be getting Android 10 together with the January update:
https://c.mi.com/thread-2725788-1-0.html
I wouldn't hold my breath to it though...

slimshady76 said:
According to another nameless Xiaomi representative, we should be getting Android 10 together with the January update:
https://c.mi.com/thread-2725788-1-0.html
I wouldn't hold my breath to it though...
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Employees in Xiaomi support suck a**. They don't know the slightest thing they're talking about. Last time I asked them when we were gonna get the Android 10 update they told me "very soon", "we're working on it" etc. All evasive responses. Some other dude asked Xiaomi support and they told him we'd get it two weeks after he asked which was about 1,5 months ago. So, don't trust Xiaomi support, they don't know what they're saying/doing. But I believe in January we'll get the update, a really crappy one. Just like how it was with Android Pie, full of bugs and missing features. LOL :laugh:

marstonpear said:
Employees in Xiaomi support suck a**. They don't know the slightest thing they're talking about. Last time I asked them when we were gonna get the Android 10 update they told me "very soon", "we're working on it" etc. All evasive responses. Some other dude asked Xiaomi support and they told him we'd get it two weeks after he asked which was about 1,5 months ago. So, don't trust Xiaomi support, they don't know what they're saying/doing. But I believe in January we'll get the update, a really crappy one. Just like how it was with Android Pie, full of bugs and missing features. LOL :laugh:
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Or you know, support robots, canned messages that promises Android 10 etc., yet nothing happened, just to ignore lots of peoples' queries, but instead, meaningless blurbs by Xiaomeme. No surprises here.
Anyway, custom ROM scenes did better job at this than Xiaomeme. Glad I don't go wait with their 'bUg FiXeS aNd ImPrOvEmEnTs' updates.

RFD80M-75679 said:
Or you know, support robots, canned messages that promises Android 10 etc., yet nothing happened, just to ignore lots of peoples' queries, but instead, meaningless blurbs by Xiaomeme. No surprises here.
Anyway, custom ROM scenes did better job at this than Xiaomeme. Glad I don't go wait with their 'bUg FiXeS aNd ImPrOvEmEnTs' updates.
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I agree that the Custom ROMs are very stable right now, but I can't trust them. That's the reason I'm still using stock ROM with locked BL in 2019 haha. I wish Xiaomi cared more for their Android One devices, but it seems they only wanted hop on another trend real quick and they are technically not giving a sh*t at all. When I first bought this phone, I expected all Android One devices to run the same OS, but somehow Nokia Android One devices get better, faster and more polished updates. I wish I had gotten the Nokia 7.1 when I had the chance. Shame.

marstonpear said:
I agree that the Custom ROMs are very stable right now, but I can't trust them. That's the reason I'm still using stock ROM with locked BL in 2019 haha.
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Wise! Beware of open source.

Question When will we get december update?

When will we get the december update. In europe even fingerprint is not updated yet. Is there a date google usualy release the updates. I thought it is the 5th!?

First Monday of the month usually.

Should be tomorrow

This update will be the "well needed" update, I really hope

magooo said:
When will we get the december update. In europe even fingerprint is not updated yet. Is there a date google usualy release the updates. I thought it is the 5th!?
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Google rolls out September Android update for its Pixels
It's the Pixel 5a's first software update. Traditionally Google releases its monthly Android update for still-supported Pixels on the first Monday of each...
www.gsmarena.com
Traditionally Google releases its monthly Android update for still-supported Pixels on the first Monday of each month, with the only exceptions being when that Monday happens to be a holiday in the US.
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I'm in Aus...how many hours til we expect to see something come through?
I've giving my 6 Pro a chance to improve after this update but if it doesn't will seriously consider returning (worse 5G reception, wifi and bluetooth than my Oppo Find X2 Pro).

Well, the sooner the better... countdown on for Monday!

Texan1 said:
I'm in Aus...how many hours til we expect to see something come through?
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Less than 24 hours from now. You might have to manually download it and apply the OTA yourself to get it that fast, but we'll see. No idea if or how much of a delay it would be before you would actually get it over the air.

Texan1 said:
I'm in Aus...how many hours til we expect to see something come through?
I've giving my 6 Pro a chance to improve after this update but if it doesn't will seriously consider returning (worse 5G reception, wifi and bluetooth than my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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I've found that it's usually about 10am Pacific Time (California).
Edit: Reddit seems to think that it's more around noon PT. Now that I think about it, that sounds about right. I seem to get the update during a busier time at work rendering my device somewhat temporarily neutered until it's done updating.
Time Zone Map
Current local times around the world, including (DST) changes.
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Texan1 said:
I'm in Aus...how many hours til we expect to see something come through?
I've giving my 6 Pro a chance to improve after this update but if it doesn't will seriously consider returning (worse 5G reception, wifi and bluetooth than my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Crappy old 1st Gen Samsung modem there using that is why. 5g download freeze is a nightmare and yes signal on wi-fi and mobile a lot weaker

numbnutsuk said:
Crappy old 1st Gen Samsung modem there using that is why. 5g download freeze is a nightmare and yes signal on wi-fi and mobile a lot weaker
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"until you realise the exynos 1st gen modem is actually more capable than the same years snapdragon modem"
Which is literally just a year ago

Why not use the 2nd gen Sammy modern?

numbnutsuk said:
Why not use the 2nd gen Sammy modern?
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Maybe Samsung refused to sell it for Google's use in the Pixel. Maybe they would've charged too much and Google would've had to charge hundreds of dollars more. I have long suspected that Samsung has certain stipulations about Google's devices so that they're not too competitive except where it counts (to me), the software. We'll probably never know why.

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Why not use the 2nd gen Sammy modern?
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probably supply issues , its also an external modem
chip shortage is real also the tensor is newer than the exynos used in the s20 ultra but also customised for google
the gpu is faster but obviously some things lacking and i dont think samsung would have been able to supply their current flagchips components alongside the google launch which had stock issues of its own
that said the price range for this phone is insanely low compared to others so some cut corners are fine
for me i dont even get to enjoy 5G in 90% of the situations im in due to slow rollout

Just checked, the update has not posted yet. It is due today as the 1st Monday of the month, but is occasionally a few days late.
Remember, if you are rooted, DO NOT take the OTA.

There is no 2nd gen modem unless Samsung wants to surprise everyone.
All rumors point to an on-die modem, likely a 5123c instead of anything new.

I'm dieing for this updateeeeee lol, well my phone's dieing for it this update should determin if things are fixable or not

V0latyle said:
Just checked, the update has not posted yet. It is due today as the 1st Monday of the month, but is occasionally a few days late.
Remember, if you are rooted, DO NOT take the OTA.
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Well, according to the man above, the update usually drops at 10 AM PST. That's still 15 minutes away.

Gone past that time tik tok , only reason you buy this phone is for the camera, software and UPDATES

numbnutsuk said:
Gone past that time tik tok , only reason you buy this phone is for the camera, software and UPDATES
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The update was released the minute you made your comment, lol. At least that's the timestamp of 9to5.
[Update: Pixel 6] Android 12 December security patch rolling out to Pixel, factory images & OTAs live
The latest update of 2021 is rolling out today with the Android 12 December security patch for the Pixel 4a, Pixel 5, Pixel 6, Pixel 6 Pro...
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Question are there any other frustrated z fold 3 owners ??

why do all the other phones have android 12 and current softwares while the top of the line Samsung z fold 3 lacks severely in this department ???
is there anyway we can take some action as to this matter as it of utmost importance
best regards from Florida

The android 12 update is rolling out now. Apparently, USA is supposed to get it on December 21.

well, we want an early Xmas present please samsung... incredible device but need the next level of software!!!

akhentamentiu said:
well, we want an early Xmas present please samsung... incredible device but need the next level of software!!!
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Settle down. Thanks

To answer your question, no.

I have learned that waiting for the stable release is worth it. If being first is your priority, than a custom ROM may be your ticket. But there are not many custom ROMS for the Fold 3.
That being said, I believe the Fold 3 is lower on the list because of number of units sold.
If you are impatient, hope you don't have a locked phone. Some carriers, like T especially, you will be waiting even longer!

akhentamentiu said:
why do all the other phones have android 12 and current softwares while the top of the line Samsung z fold 3 lacks severely in this department ???
is there anyway we can take some action as to this matter as it of utmost importance
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First Samsung?
And when you say All other phones have Android 12...but do they? Really? All of them?
As of December 8th, 2021:
Here is the list of phones that should be updated to Android 12 already:
Pixel 3
Pixel 3 XL
Pixel 3a
Pixel 3a XL
Pixel 4
Pixel 4 XL
Pixel 4a
Pixel 4a 5G
Pixel 5
Pixel 5a
Pixel 6
And since I've had Android 12 on my ZF3 for about a month now, I'd say the fact that Samsung is second only to Pixel when it comes to update time frame, I'd say that's pretty damn good.
Seriously, relax.

nope. had note 3 and note 2 before it. a little hiatus

I presume VZW will roll it out in January, maybe.

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I presume VZW will roll it out in January, maybe.
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Of 2023 if history is any indication

No, and I've also been on the beta since it rolled out. However I give Samsung a lot of credit for doing their homework and research before releasing the live version. Go to any OnePlus forum and you will see a laundry list of complaints because everything was rushed. I think us Samsung owners are in a good place.

akhentamentiu said:
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What could possibly be the utmost importance about android 12? Your phone will operate exactly the same without the update. All the update is going to bring are updated UI elements.
Does your phone not work on 11?

The only thing I'm frustrated about is how the phone paint at the exposed areas are peeling badly. It's not even 6 months and the peel is spreading out. And yes, I did go to the service centre and is not covered under warranty.

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The only thing I'm frustrated about is how the phone paint at the exposed areas are peeling badly. It's not even 6 months and the peel is spreading out. And yes, I did go to the service centre and is not covered under warranty.
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Do you happen to have a picture of this? Are you talking about the the paint from the aluminum housing?

larsdennert said:
Of 2023 if history is any indication
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Apparently you haven't been keeping up with Samsung updates over the last few years. They roll out MUCH faster now.

Not really Samsung that I haven't kept up on but Verizon. I haven't had a Verizon version phone in years because they held updates up for at least a year when unlocked phones already had them. I prefer bl unlocked phones but have no choice with the fold.

akhentamentiu said:
why do all the other phones have android 12 and current softwares while the top of the line Samsung z fold 3 lacks severely in this department ???
is there anyway we can take some action as to this matter as it of utmost importance
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You have it now,
best regards from Texas

Canadians just got Android 12 today for Note 20 and Fold 3 so don't think you are that hard done by. The worst part of it is the files are all stamped Dec 23rd so Samsung sat on the update for over three weeks before it sent it to its customers. Also, still no dual SIM for Fold 3???