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Anybody try this yet? http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...um-theming-unrooted-android-8-0-oreo-devices/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=projekt.andromeda&hl=en
mademan420 said:
Anybody try this yet? http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...store/apps/details?id=projekt.andromeda&hl=en
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Yeah but Andromeda is an add-on to make substratum work. I have to stay plugged into my comp for it to work though. Once I set theme I'm good to go though.
toknitup420 said:
Yeah but Andromeda is an add-on to make substratum work. I have to stay plugged into my comp for it to work though. Once I set theme I'm good to go though.
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Well I guess having to plug in to set the theme isnt so bad...
I ran into this problem yesterday and all I did was just ran the Andromeda script two times in a row and waited about 10 seconds and it was fine. Both Substratum and Andromeda have been updated since then so it may have just been a bug. The substratum app works great although there are some themes that apparently still require root to use (status bar changes like moving the clock to center). Over all im very happy with the results. Using Sai's Oreo black/teal theme and love it. Big thanks to those who made this possible
Yeah, it's still on the XDA Portal front page.
Is this just for unrooted? Substratum works fine rooted
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Is this just for unrooted? Substratum works fine rooted
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yeah, this is for unrooted devices.
Yeah been using it since release, works like a dream for me. Don't have to stay plugged in myself either, only a reboot requires a re-run of the andromeda desktop client.
I started using it today but having the same issue with it only working while plugged to the PC. I tried it at least 5-6 times and ran it back to back, still goes to not authorized once I unplugged. But I like the theme so far and everything seems ok for now after I rebooted.
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I've been trying it out.
Which black theme hasn't the fewest unintended UI issues? Black themes are nice, but it bugs me when I get white on white text, or my Keep note colors are messed up. I haven't yet tried Swift Black as everyone seems to love it, but I want one that just works. I don't have a ton of time for experimentation.
I'm also not interested in changing the look too much outside of coloring, like Substratum DAN does with all it's fonts and ugly (imo) color themes.
Swift black is the best black theme I found so far. Pitch black seems to be actively worked on but Google now home had black on black issue. Only issue with Swift black was inbox shows a white background once opening an email but it might not be the app's fault.
IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
Yeah been using it since release, works like a dream for me. Don't have to stay plugged in myself either, only a reboot requires a re-run of the andromeda desktop client.
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Hey how did you achieve this theme where the notifications shade are even blacked out. Please help . Been searching on how to achieve this
luch4galaxy said:
Hey how did you achieve this theme where the notifications shade are even blacked out. Please help . Been searching on how to achieve this
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That's themed using Compound theme in the Play Store from Daniel Schott.
Do they have it working for Chromebooks? Where I can plug my Pixel XL to my Chromebook?
rockingondrums said:
I've been trying it out.
Which black theme hasn't the fewest unintended UI issues? Black themes are nice, but it bugs me when I get white on white text, or my Keep note colors are messed up. I haven't yet tried Swift Black as everyone seems to love it, but I want one that just works. I don't have a ton of time for experimentation.
I'm also not interested in changing the look too much outside of coloring, like Substratum DAN does with all it's fonts and ugly (imo) color themes.
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I've been using Swift black ever since nugget now I'm using it on Oreo I really like it
Edit Swift dark I mean
mac796 said:
I've been using Swift black ever since nugget now I'm using it on Oreo I really like it
Edit Swift dark I mean
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I went ahead and bit the bullet on Swift Black, and it's fantastic. Worth every penny. Really well thought out and few text coloration bugs
rockingondrums said:
I went ahead and bit the bullet on Swift Black, and it's fantastic. Worth every penny. Really well thought out and few text coloration bugs
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That's funny I just tried to buy it. damn Play Store force closes on me everytime I try to buy an app so I guess I got a reflash the factory image. Some bug I guess some of us have
Nice Write-up/review about it!
https://www.androidcentral.com/week-substratumandromeda-theming
mac796 said:
That's funny I just tried to buy it. damn Play Store force closes on me everytime I try to buy an app so I guess I got a reflash the factory image. Some bug I guess some of us have
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Just try wiping the data of the play store app, should solve those sort of issues with it.
IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
Just try wiping the data of the play store app, should solve those sort of issues with it.
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No that doesn't fix it. I guess others have the same problem. There's a lot of us
Can anyone confirm that Substratum themes work on this phone?
Substratum wont work on this phone until we have root. Android Pie only allows Substratum to work on rooted phones due to Google's deletion of the overlay management service.
Cool, thank you. It's working on other rooted devices running Pie right? So it's a pretty good shot it'll just work once we have root?
cantara256 said:
Cool, thank you. It's working on other rooted devices running Pie right? So it's a pretty good shot it'll just work once we have root?
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It's working with Pie on the rooted Pixel 2XL...
Archangel said:
Substratum wont work on this phone until we have root. Android Pie only allows Substratum to work on rooted phones due to Google's deletion of the overlay management service.
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did they say why they deleted the overlay management system? That was a great addition to the Oreo version.
Oh yeah any other device running Pie that is rooted Substratum should work fine depending on the theme. Once we get root we should be good to go.
cantara256 said:
Cool, thank you. It's working on other rooted devices running Pie right? So it's a pretty good shot it'll just work once we have root?
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They probably wont ever say but they dont like us tinkering around with their apps. There was a petition to keep OMS in Pie but they just ignored it and decided, as they usually do, to do what they want. Its the same thing with the Old style navbar,,,the code was there like OMS, just leave it in there for users to use it if they want. I have been with Android since it started and the "freedoms" we once enjoyed are being slowly eroded and choices taken away. Pretty soon we will be Apple and everything will be proprietary.
Annnnd yet another feature taken away from us! I mean really,,,I use this feature just about everyday and now its gone probably like this Pixel 3 will be when I send it back to Google!
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/19/pixel-3-drops-support-voice-match-unlocking/
freebee269 said:
did they say why they deleted the overlay management system? That was a great addition to the Oreo version.
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Substratum wont work on this phone until we have root. Android Pie only allows Substratum to work on rooted phones due to Google's deletion of the overlay management service.
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I think they just blocked 3rd party overlays, not dropped OMS completely. IF there was no OMS, then Substratum wouldn't work properly, right? A ROM would need the necessary commits from Subs team (frameworks, etc), like we had to do with Nougat. Yet, you can run it on stock AOSPie, as long as you're rooted.
I may have it wrong, lol, I know I'm just ready to get my P3XL
Root is hopefully right around the corner and then Substratum can work,,,cant wait!
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I think they just blocked 3rd party overlays, not dropped OMS completely. IF there was no OMS, then Substratum wouldn't work properly, right? A ROM would need the necessary commits from Subs team (frameworks, etc), like we had to do with Nougat. Yet, you can run it on stock AOSPie, as long as you're rooted.
I may have it wrong, lol, I know I'm just ready to get my P3XL
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Root is hopefully right around the corner and then Substratum can work,,,cant wait!
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I saw a few posts that indicated that subs not working after rooting
Oh no I rooted as easy as any other phone and my themes applied fine. Some people may not be applying the themes right on Pie. I was even able to get rid of that God awful gesture navbar and get the old one back so I can flash my navbar theme.
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I saw a few posts that indicated that subs not working after rooting
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Archangel said:
Oh no I rooted as easy as any other phone and my themes applied fine. Some people may not be applying the themes right on Pie. I was even able to get rid of that God awful gesture navbar and get the old one back so I can flash my navbar theme.
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Good to know
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Oh no I rooted as easy as any other phone and my themes applied fine. Some people may not be applying the themes right on Pie. I was even able to get rid of that God awful gesture navbar and get the old one back so I can flash my navbar theme.
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Not sure why I didn't try it. I just assumed it wouldn't work. Not only does it work, everything is themed.
Thanks for saying something. That white ui was painful.
Swift Black on the 3 XL is a God send
Now in all the System and Google apps, you can't even tell there's a notch. Everything has a beautiful silky black look, and you just see the time in upper left and network info in upper right, and no idea there's even a notch in the middle as everything is black which totally hides the notch completely, but it's nice to see that info in the upper corners, makes the screen look like it goes all the way to the edge.
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Oh no I rooted as easy as any other phone and my themes applied fine. Some people may not be applying the themes right on Pie. I was even able to get rid of that God awful gesture navbar and get the old one back so I can flash my navbar theme.
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Can you please share the right way to apply themes on Pie?
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Can you please share the right way to apply themes on Pie?
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Unless the procedure is different on the P3XL as compared to my P2XL on Pie, the procedure is as follows.
Install the latest substratum from the play store, and grant it root and storage permissions.
Download a quality theme, and there are several.
Open substratum and tick the theme you want to apply.
Select "build and update" to create the overlays you want. Once done, reboot the phone, then go to substratum again, open the manager, then check your overlays, and select enable.
That should do it :good:
I think someone already answered but most forget to go back into Substratum and click enable on all the overlays that you built previously then rebooted. Its not like Oreo where all you had to do was just build and enable. Now, you have to build and enable then reboot and go back into manager and enable the built overlays again.
gettingerr said:
Can you please share the right way to apply themes on Pie?
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I am themed on the Swift series, but I did not know about this rebooting and enabling again. I was wondering why it wasn't working at first I would reboot go back into it and then an able again just out of frustration that knowing that was the right way to do it but seems weird to have to do that extra stuff now
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Oh no I rooted as easy as any other phone and my themes applied fine. Some people may not be applying the themes right on Pie. I was even able to get rid of that God awful gesture navbar and get the old one back so I can flash my navbar theme.
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Can confirm themes work just have to reboot after applying them and re enable them after reboot.
If I may ask how did you change the navbar ? And put those icons ?
I made a Google doc and posted the link below for my themes to help people that may run into problems,,,if you scroll down the last page there is a guide to enable the old style navbar. The icons are part of my Substratum theme Amazed Navbars.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LqNd7pltj3G0rPopgW11PybpcCQCNufMblvl6lUb2Tk/edit?usp=sharing
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Can confirm themes work just have to reboot after applying them and re enable them after reboot.
If I may ask how did you change the navbar ? And put those icons ?
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Archangel said:
Oh no I rooted as easy as any other phone and my themes applied fine. Some people may not be applying the themes right on Pie. I was even able to get rid of that God awful gesture navbar and get the old one back so I can flash my navbar theme.
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How did you get the Nav Bar back? I hate the way it is now and would prefer doing something similar to what you did - ? if you can share that would be awesome - thanks
Never mind - I found the guide for changing back to the old Navigaiton menu - https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/heres-how-to-revert-to-the-old-three-button-navigation-system-on-google-pixel-3-5418351.html Thanks
Hey there. For those who want a system wide dark theme with a LOT of apps themed, Swift Installer actually works on Oreo Samsung Experience.
It's on the Google Play Store. It's paid but it's really good. Basically every popular app is themed.
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Hey there. For those who want a system wide dark theme with a LOT of apps themed, Swift Installer actually works on Oreo Samsung Experience.
Yeah, it has been out for over seven months and of course is works in Oreo, it was made FOR Oreo
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Hello ?
LyLu said:
Hey there. For those who want a system wide dark theme with a LOT of apps themed, Swift Installer actually works on Oreo Samsung Experience.
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iiyn said:
Yeah, it has been out for over seven months and of course is works in Oreo, it was med FOR Oreo
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And I will say more ?, there are Swift Black and Swift Minimal Substratum themes, which can be mixed with other themes like Yoru…
One word Substratum is more Adjustable
D_Vovan_238 said:
And I will say more ?, there are Swift Black and Swift Minimal Substratum themes, which can be mixed with other themes like Yoru…
One word Substratum is more Adjustable
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Im running Swift Installer together with Substratum.
I combine with Yoru, Samsung System Mods and Victory, never had any problems.
I just do the Swift Installer first installing everything I want/have to use, then I choose some tweaks and theming from the other Substratum modules.
I know there is a warning in Swift Installer about this, but I have never had any problems.
Sometimes I also combine with Swift Black, if let's say there is an update for Insta or Snap i Play Store, I use whatever overlay witch is updated first.
Never had problems... :laugh:
Does it also work with Android Pie on Samsung Galaxy Note 9?
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Does it also work with Android Pie on Samsung Galaxy Note 9?
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No, not yet
Is root required for Subs on Pixel devices these days? I know non-root use to be a thing but if memory serves it went away around the time Pie was released.
Root is needed. Substratum used to work rootless with Andromeda but no longer on the latest Android versions any more (AFAIK).
Indeed... As I thought... Andromeda works only on Android Orio... So root will be needed. With root the Substratum overlays become mapped as /system apps.
And even with root, it might just NOT work on Android 12.
Substratum Lite works on Android 12. Using Liv Dark on it now.
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Substratum Lite works on Android 12. Using Liv Dark on it now.
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Yeah that is 1 of the themes that is making me consider root so I can use it lol. There was another one I can't remember the name right now but looked pretty awesome. I love custom themes and being able to switch them up after a while so I may end up rooting. Not saying the material you background theming isn't a vastly better option than most phones have but I like things a little more customized.
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Yeah that is 1 of the themes that is making me consider root so I can use it lol. There was another one I can't remember the name right now but looked pretty awesome. I love custom themes and being able to switch them up after a while so I may end up rooting. Not saying the material you background theming isn't a vastly better option than most phones have but I like things a little more customized.
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Yeah, Liv Dark is an awesome theme. Along with the LIv Dark Poweramp theme.
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Yeah, Liv Dark is an awesome theme. Along with the LIv Dark Poweramp theme.
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The other theme I was looking at was called 'Iris'. Looks pretty sweet. I am running the Poweramp theme as well it is great.
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Substratum Lite works on Android 12. Using Liv Dark on it now.
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I didn't know themes were already updated to work on Android 12?!
Hey,
I tried to search here but didn't find anything.
Does the regular Substratum theme engine work on Android 12.1 on the Pixel 6 Pro? It seems like development for Substratum stopped a while ago but I hope we can still use it!
Thanks!
I know substratum lite works. I used to use livdark theme
I might move to the lite version then.
But I guess not many people care about Substratum anymore eh?
Ghisy said:
I might move to the lite version then.
But I guess not many people care about Substratum anymore eh?
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Have you tried "Project Themer"?
Ghisy said:
I might move to the lite version then.
But I guess not many people care about Substratum anymore eh?
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I use repainter. But if swift installer got updated for a12 , I'd use that for sure.
jericho246 said:
Have you tried "Project Themer"?
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Project themer is a game changer.
Thanks for the replies! (sorry, kinda forgot about this thread)
Should I get Repainter or Project Themer on Android 13? It seems like they're doing the same thing?
Ghisy said:
Thanks for the replies! (sorry, kinda forgot about this thread)
Should I get Repainter or Project Themer on Android 13? It seems like they're doing the same thing?
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I use a combination of Substratum and Repainter and it works out well.
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I use a combination of Substratum and Repainter and it works out well.
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Alright, thanks.
How much is Repainter though? Because on the Play Store, it says "In-app purchases - €3.94 - €9.85 per item". 9.85 seems quite expensive.
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Alright, thanks.
How much is Repainter though? Because on the Play Store, it says "In-app purchases - €3.94 - €9.85 per item". 9.85 seems quite expensive.
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I think it's $3.99 a year or $9.99 for lifetime in USD. Other countries prices vary. It has a 3 day trial so you can test it out.
Oops, forgot to reply here!
Repainter is too expensive for me. I might go with Project Themer. Is it compatible with 13 though?
Ghisy said:
I might move to the lite version then.
But I guess not many people care about Substratum anymore eh?
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I found Substratum lite would no longer apply themes, so I used standard Substratum, with Swift Black. Also using Repainter and Project Themer, all for different things
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Oops, forgot to reply here!
Repainter is too expensive for me. I might go with Project Themer. Is it compatible with 13 though?
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Yeah Project Themer works on A13. Maybe not everything, but some/most things at least!
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Yeah Project Themer works on A13. Maybe not everything, but some/most things at least!
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I also use regular Substratum with Swift Black for apps. It seems to work fine.
But I'd like to theme the system UI / framework black and not dark grey as it is from Google. Can I do that with Project Themer? I don't think I can with Swift Black because it hasn't been updated for 13.
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I also use regular Substratum with Swift Black for apps. It seems to work fine.
But I'd like to theme the system UI / framework black and not dark grey as it is from Google. Can I do that with Project Themer? I don't think I can with Swift Black because it hasn't been updated for 13.
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Yes project themer does this nicely
cd993 said:
Yes project themer does this nicely
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does exist some good program for to modify UI colors without root? Thanks a lot
Ghisy said:
I also use regular Substratum with Swift Black for apps. It seems to work fine.
But I'd like to theme the system UI / framework black and not dark grey as it is from Google. Can I do that with Project Themer? I don't think I can with Swift Black because it hasn't been updated for 13.
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Repainter does this as well but ive been using swift black and swift dark with substratum lite on A13 without issues. It's not supported,. But it works
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Repainter does this as well but ive been using swift black and swift dark with substratum lite on A13 without issues. It's not supported,. But it works
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Me too, a few overlays from Swift dark (whatsapp, instagram); they still work fine on A13.
Substratum theme that works on A13/A12 AOSP(tested myself)
Iris Series (Has Gradient accents)
Liv Series (Has Gradient accents)
Iconic Icons-- Status bar/Qs icon changer
Kodansha-- Best one so Far
Flux Series
snovharry said:
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no its not, its just a stupid system themer, like Iris Monet. What we need is Swift Black for Android 12+ but until then we have to find COMPETENT alternatives, not glorified system ui themers