In general I love Mango B2, and IE9 funtionality is great.
In terms of usability though, I think MS is missing a trick.
We've got larger screen real estate now that the address bar and menu bar is combined, but at a cost.
For example, I have two sites that I check daily. To update the first one when I open IE is menu > favourites > select fave. Then to switch to another, menu > tabs > select tab > menu > favourites > select favourite. Six key presses - not efficient.
Given the pivot style in the rest of WP, why can't I just swipte left/right to flick through my tabs?!? Or maybe/also keep the menu open when I select a new tab so I can action the new tab (Bing already creates a new tab, so mostly opening a new tab is to select a favourite, right?)
Once the tabs are all open you can use the multi-task keypress to reach all the open tabs quickly, but they disappear as other apps populate the multi-task screen.
I dunno, pivoting to different tabs seems like such a natural thing to be able to do in IE...
Believe me, many of us are not happy with the new browser chrome either.
The address bar should be able to slide left and right to expose additional buttons/functions eg. tabs and favorites.
This has been covered already. I create a simple template, which I think would solve the problem. You can see it in this post. My idea would be to keep the menu bar the same as IE8 was before Mango & keeping the address up top. Make it thinker to more finger friendly & add forward & back buttons. Finally, it would autohide once you finished entering a URL. To access it, you swipe down from the top of the screen. Here's the Photoshoped image I made;
Not perfect, but you get the point.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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This has been covered already. I create a simple template, which I think would solve the problem. You can see it in this post. My idea would be to keep the menu bar the same as IE8 was before Mango & keeping the address up top. Make it thinker to more finger friendly & add forward & back buttons. Finally, it would autohide once you finished entering a URL. To access it, you swipe down from the top of the screen. Here's the Photoshoped image I made;
Not perfect, but you get the point.
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that would make it too much like the iOS browser which is pretty much the same amount of real estate
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that would make it too much like the iOS browser which is pretty much the same amount of real estate
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I told you already, stop stalking my posts. Stop stalking everyone who complains about efficient things in WP7. Don't make me report you again!
It also has a lot more real estate than the iOS browser;
PS: Sorry to everyone else for this post. Added him to my ignore list...
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I told you already, stop stalking my posts. Stop stalking everyone who complains about efficient things in WP7. Don't make me report you again!
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I said nothing in that last post that violates the TOS. I just said it would be similar to the iOS browser which is already inferior to IEM9.
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This has been covered already. I create a simple template, which I think would solve the problem. You can see it in this post. My idea would be to keep the menu bar the same as IE8 was before Mango & keeping the address up top. Make it thinker to more finger friendly & add forward & back buttons. Finally, it would autohide once you finished entering a URL. To access it, you swipe down from the top of the screen. Here's the Photoshoped image I made;
Not perfect, but you get the point.
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I would actually hate moving the address bar back to the top, and I think it looks too cluttered there tbh, especially when people rarely use a forward button, to give it priority like that.
On a side note, and no disrespect to you I just wanted to touch it with the whole "don't make me report you again!" comment, I think acting too much like the forum police, on every single thing that may not be perfect, is going to distract people from your helpful posts. Not sure what happened between you and this guy, but it seems like every thread I go to I see you "moderating" it, and it really takes away from how helpful you really are, just my opinion.
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I would actually hate moving the address bar back to the top, and I think it looks too cluttered there tbh, especially when people rarely use a forward button, to give it priority like that.
On a side note, and no disrespect to you I just wanted to touch it with the whole "don't make me report you again!" comment, I think acting too much like the forum police, on every single thing that may not be perfect, is going to distract people from your helpful posts. Not sure what happened between you and this guy, but it seems like every thread I go to I see you "moderating" it, and it really takes away from how helpful you really are, just my opinion.
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Yes, it is kind of cluttered looking, but isn't final, just a quick thought of how to make it better. It can of course, be done better & I'm sure MS can come up with something better, but I think it really needs to be up top to make room in the menu bar. The swipe to the left the other guy said, seems no better then using a menu though IMO.
Sent you a PM on the side note.
Why not put the back, forward and refresh buttons on the bottom bar - there's plenty of room next to the others. You can then auto-hide the address bar - it's only really useful to see what page you're on when the page is loading (who actually types in URLs on a mobile browser?).
Also "Add to Favorite" does not need a dedicated button as you favourite new websites rarely - this feature can be hidden in the bookmarks menu. The bottom bar should be hide-able too - often i'd prefer space for my website over buttons.
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Why not put the back, forward and refresh buttons on the bottom bar - there's plenty of room next to the others. You can then auto-hide the address bar - it's only really useful to see what page you're on when the page is loading (who actually types in URLs on a mobile browser?).
Also "Add to Favorite" does not need a dedicated button as you favourite new websites rarely - this feature can be hidden in the bookmarks menu. The bottom bar should be hide-able too - often i'd prefer space for my website over buttons.
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without starting a flamewar about browsers or os's...
i'm currently enjoying:
scroll to top for menubar, no swiping or sliding or keypress needed.
menubar has www.---------- waiting for you to type in the rest. no bookmarks button, nothing at all.
for additional things like forward/back, a menu button is pressed... and it works very well. bookmarking is rare, as history goes back a week or three. it's easy enough to search in history on a topic to find the URL.
tabs... menu button -> all tabs.
just a hint in what might be the right direction. if ios/palm/whoever does it differently, it might just be better. try it out !
I really like ie9 in beta 2. It finally remembers location and zoomed state when going to previous page..
With that said when I upgraded from nodo to mango the address bar drove me nuts. I was used to having 4-5 tabs open all the time. Now I only have one open. I got used to working in just one tab. Its less of an hassle to use one tab than switching between them.
Slidable address bar is an excellent idea. I would definitely support something like this.
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I hope they implement something like the SGSII...zoom gestures to switch between tabs.
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Why not put the back, forward and refresh buttons on the bottom bar - there's plenty of room next to the others. You can then auto-hide the address bar - it's only really useful to see what page you're on when the page is loading (who actually types in URLs on a mobile browser?).
Also "Add to Favorite" does not need a dedicated button as you favourite new websites rarely - this feature can be hidden in the bookmarks menu. The bottom bar should be hide-able too - often i'd prefer space for my website over buttons.
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I thought about this too last night. My new thought, have the following buttons on the menu bar, Address Toggle/Back/Forward/Favorites/Tabs. The Address Toggle toggles the menu bar between default menu & the address bar. When address bar is shown, you have the refresh button. I'll create a quick template shortly.
Here's the new template;
sorry dude but all your buttons are not good
people cant find the backwards button, (its the hardware key)
or even the forward button (in sub menu aka right click)
so u think they will ever find out about swiping over the adressbar to make other icons apear?
i would like to pinch out to fullscreen, and if u pinch further, tabs will apear..
also more think of gestures instead of buttons..
touch one finger
double touch one finger
swipe one finger -direction (8 directions minimum)
touch and hold one finger
touch two fingers
double touch two fingers
swipe two fingers -direction
touch and hold one finger
touch three fingers
double touch three fingers
swipe three fingers -direction
touch and hold three finger
etc... lots of unused stuff....
btw, i know you can include ie9 in your apps, so cant your app be there to improove ie9 ?
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sorry dude but all your buttons are not good
people cant find the backwards button, (its the hardware key)
or even the forward button (in sub menu aka right click)
so u think they will ever find out about swiping over the adressbar to make other icons apear?
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Gestures = Overrated gimmick. A simple single tap beats any swipe/pinch/what ever gesture. I can't count how many times I've let someone use my phone & how unnatural they look trying to swipe. Swipe is good for scrolling, pinch is good for zooming, other than that, they're overrated. A nice gimmick, but still a gimmick.
Secondly, read what I wrote, there's a toggle like the keyboard has the number/letter toggle.
The hardware back button should not be used for in app navigation. The hardware buttons should be static across all screens. Any option that requires more than one simple tap, on the main menu is inefficient (Other than pinch to zoom/swipe scrolling). I don't swipe up for menu, I tap the 3 dots. I don't swipe left & right, I tap on the tab title if available. Far easier than swiping.
Back = Close App/Previous App (The current/Mango use does not fit with the rest of WP7.)
Start = Start Screen (Already Static)
Search = Bing (Fixed in Mango)
That many buttons goes against the WP experience
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That many buttons goes against the WP experience
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How so, there are apps that have 5 buttons. This is why MS choose icons over text. You can fit more & it looks cleaner. Also, if there is the ability for 5 buttons, than it is within MS's standards. Beside the fact, these are just ideas. Please show me your own ideas?
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That many buttons goes against the WP experience
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you can't tell him that because now he's gonna block u jaja.
There has to be a compromise between style and usability. It seems to me that the new design of IE9 in Mango will be less efficient for most people, and these ideas might improve that. At the very least, they help convey the concern that many people have.
In HTC's advertising blurb for the OX they state "With a 3-finger swipe, easily switch between the last 2 apps used"
I can't seem to get this to work and wonder if I'm missing a setting somewhere.
Any help greatly received as this would be a really useful function.
3 finger swipe is used to start screen sharing with the HTC media link HD, not the last two apps. to switch apps use the task switcher button
where does the blurb say that?
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3 finger swipe is used to start screen sharing with the HTC media link HD, not the last two apps. to switch apps use the task switcher button
where does the blurb say that?
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-One-Sim-Free-Smartphone/dp/B0078LXM4A/
About half-way down the product description under Sense, Dynamic multi-tasking
Good spot - never noticed that before and I've certainly never found that feature!
Edit: Just seen in the Team Pkmn Rom that there have included an option to map a certain feature to the three finger swipe, when swiping Up, Down, Left and Right. One of the options is go to previous open app. Not sure if this is what HTC seem to have planned to implement but it works a treat!
I just discovered this app and wanted to share because I think it works particularly well with HTC One owners. It makes up for the "blank HTC" logo on the front of the device.
Y'all ever use Zephyr on a jailbroken iPhone? Basically, it's an app that lets you swipe up to go back home from anywhere at anytime (think of it as a reverse notification pull down. Instead of pulling down, you pull up from the bottom and it reveals the home screen).
Anyway, for a while, I wanted a similar app for Android, but there weren't any real solutions until now.
Check out Swipe Home: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.matthewma.swipehomebuttonfree (free 7 day trial, then 99 cents after that).
It beats Zephyr in that it's more customizable, it doesn't require rooting, and is far cheaper (Zephyr was $4.99).
And it's amazingly reliable. It's really changed the way I interact with my One. You can also get creative. For example, for the Swipe Up-Down gesture, I Bind it to a free app called "Screen Lock and Off" (here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.katecca.screenofflock&hl=en) and it puts my device to sleep with a simple swipe up-down from the blank HTC logo. It's really amazing.
Here's an example of it in action:
And here's my personal set up:
SWIPE UP: Home
SWIPE UP-DOWN: Screen off & lock
SWIPE FAR UP: Camera
SWIPE LEFT-DOWN: Notification pull down.
SWIPE LEFT-RIGHT: Recent apps
Check it out, fellas. It rules.
Wonder if it has an effect to the battery life? Also, will it work with Screen On? (making it like S2W?)
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You can only send feedback once from one device, so makes sure you add everything in one go.
I made the following suggestions. Post yours too. So that its sparks better ideas for the coming Emotion UI 2.0.
Fixes:
- A fix for the profile changer app. There is supposed to be five default profiles built into it but only four shows up, with the car profile being missing. When a new profile is created with the name "Car", it shows up as already used. Hence this needs to be fixed.
- Fix for keypad. On the browser, the address bar also functions as a search bar. The problem is that when one starts to type into that bar, the keypad automatically switches the "space" key to ".com" key, and hence there is no space key option available. Now the space is alternatively available if i was to switch to the numbers key pad section, but i would actually want the space key on the mainpad itself as it is a frequently used key for an internet search. Maybe give the ".com" key the same swipe down function as space key or vice versa.
- Fix for ME widget. The problem is that if i was to reduce the number of widgets that are packed into that widget box, the size of the box does not reduce. So lets say i want to use only the 1x2 size weather widget while removed the rest of the widgets. But what happens is that the widget still takes up the whole big original space and leads to un-usable space on the home screen. The space cannot be used for other widgets or apps. So basically now i am having to search for third party apps to use as a weather/world clock widget. Neither can i use that small music player widget as a stand alone.
- Fix for email widget (not the gmail widget) allows only emails of one email ID (that too the email ID added first) to show up on the email widget. While within the app there is a feature for combined viewing of all mails from all the different email ID's. So this same combined view option should be available for the widget too.
Changes/Additions:
- Make the navigation bar opaque glassy color throughout the system. At present it remains opaque only on the home screen, while turns grey everywhere else. And there is a lot of complains about this grey color.
- Allow scroll option for the bottom tray so that more number of apps can be located there.
- Allow the swipe down gesture on any part of the home screen to bring down the notification panel. At present one has to extend finger all over to the top to bring it down which is laborious when using with one hand. By allowing swipe down anywhere on home screen, this can be solved.
- Regarding the navigation bar hide option. At present this is done by an additional small arrow at the left end of the navigation bar. To me that is a constrictive and inconsistent. I would say that they make the "back/return" key of the navigation bar itself for this purpose by letting the long press of the back key to initiate the hiding of the navigation bar.
- The Huawei ascend Mate got an additional option of "suspend button" but this is not present in the Ascend P6. I would say that this shortcut feature should be added to the P6 too, but rather than have an annoying dot/point on the screen and the problem of having it move about often to prevent it from blocking the screen, the long press of the multitask navigation key should instead be used for activating the shortcut menu. Also the theme of this shortcut should be much improved and great looking with included option of customization. Also there needs to be the toggle options, power off/ restart/ screen turnoff, etc controls, included in this shortcut. The app available on google play called "Toucher Pro" can be seen as an example of design and features.
- Allowing the creation of folders within folders or other options that would allow users who want to have an app drawer, the ability to use and feel the folder as an app drawer itself.
- Option for the lock screen to allow the guest login mode.
- Knock knock phone awaken feature or the active display feature.
- Lock screen should have more detailed notification/message/calls reading option.
- Option to search and download theme from the theme app itself, and of course releasing more themes in a consistent period of time and allowing other users to advertise their themes and make it available for all users. There should be some organized space for public creative development of themes by users.
- More Huawei exclusive live widgets and floating apps.
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I made the following suggestions. Post yours too. So that its sparks better ideas for the coming Emotion UI 2.0.
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Good u have given all the super suggestions of which i could thought. Hope EMUI 2.0 comes fast.
Better weather widget with more animations and addition of night....
I have sent the following more:
Additions/Changes:
1) Add timer option for the EMUI Huawei Lock screen.
2) Allow vibration turn off/on option for the unlocking of lock screen. At present the vibration is enabled and cannot be disabled.
3) Allow timer option for switching profiles.
4) The incoming call screen ID picture should be bigger in size.
Fixes:
1) Grey navigation bar stays over third party apps even when third party apps ask for full screen.
2) Screen light abruptly changes at random even if the back light wasn't in auto detect mode. In fact, at times even when the screen light is kept in auto mode, it later abruptly switches to other modes and does not remain in auto mode.
3) The wifi automatically turns off under weak connectivity, even though this battery saving option was disabled.
4) When the permission manager is made to block any app, a notification popups every time the app functions. Maybe a separate section should be created within the permission manager, that mentions all apps that have some of their access blocked rather than through a popup.
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More issues:
Fix battery calibration :
The battery % at times become inconsistent, sometimes not charging beyong 90 or 95%, sometimes jumping to 100 after long time on 95. Also when using battery it jumps from below 10% to 4% etc.
Fix Browser:**
1) when using quick controls of the default browser, the top browser control bar that was supposed to be hidden instead gets distorted by appearing as black or some broken image of the website visited.
2) when using the translate option on long press, it goes to google china rather than google english.
Wallpaper controls:
When applying a picture from gallery as wallpaper, the option to apply it as scrollable wallpaper does not exist. The scrollable wallpaper option exists only for the preloaded wallpapers in system.
Some more really important**suggestions
Quick shortcut bar:
A quickshort cut panel that triggers by swiping up the multitask icon. Design: The panel should be 3/4 the height of the screen so that it does not make the thumb stretch too much for single hand users. The apps to pin to quick panel should be left to users to decide. The apps should be properly spaced in stacks such that one quickly memorizes the distance to swipe to trigger each app. So for example, if one pins a screen turn off/lock screen app on bottom of the stacked panel, a mere small swipe from multitask key to just above the navigation bar would trigger the screen to turn off. This design of shortcut to my knowledge would be the quickest and simplest shortcut taking swipe to its best use. Bring it first on Huawei.
Power manger upgrade:
At present there are 3 modes of power manger. Normal, smart and endurance. Although the smart mode conserves battery yet its not used by many as it disconnects the internet when screen locked. To make up for these users, there should a fourth option for those users who want to receive their chat messages or email notifications. They dont want as power hungry as games yet not as low as to be disconnected from internet.
Power manager combined with profile switch toggle:
Setting the power plan for different profiles would also be a great advancement. One could hence then switch their power plan with profile rotation key. So for example, one could switch to chat profile or game profile.
Smart minimizing of video & music:
There is a video minimizing feature on the ascend mate that allows one to watch video in minimized form while multitasking. This feature should be on the Ascend p6 but with certain advances. It should function with swipes similar to the new youtube mobile app. A swipe down/up from video or music play should minimize it to a small screen and then swipe left if one needs to close it or swipe back up/down to maximize it.
Switching browser windows:
Allow the Huawei browser to switch between different opened browser windows by a swipe left or right from the very ends of the screen. The trigger/hotspot being on the ends like an ubuntu side bar being opened but in this case, switching windows.
Other small changes/adds:
- On the default Huawei browser, the long press on text does not contain the "select all" option. Only the copy, share, translate and search option exists.
- There should be a unique sound or led notification to know the battery is full/completely charged.
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A large tablet comes with the price of greater hand/arm travel distance when working with the screen. I am by no means complaining any sore elbows here. But it does take some getting used to, especially for those coming from smaller (7" - 8") tablets. Over and over again when my hand moves up and down between the screen and the (home and capacitive) buttons, I can't help but wish I had multi-touch gestures like on an iPad.
If my GNP were rooted, GMD Gestures would have solved my problem. But I am not ready to trip that stupid Knox counter yet. So here we are.
I came across this app called All in one Gesture. It doesn't have multi-touch, but at least some simple 'swiping from edges' functions.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phoenixstudios.aiogestures
Let me share with you my experience on working with this app. First, after installation, you need to enable the app under Accessibility in Settings before you can activate/use the gestures. But soon, Android will warn you of disabling a whole bunch of functions as a result, including Multi window. See attachment.
The good news is, some of those functions can be re-enabled to work with All-in-one-Gesture without issues. I tested Multi window, Air view and Direct pen input and they all seemed to be working fine after re-enabling. (I don't use the others, but I suspect some other ones would work too). But you should exercise cautious when doing so. For example, Multi window requires swiping from right edge to activate; and so I should not use the swiping from right edge gesture. Currently, I only use swiping from left for the 'back' function, and swiping from bottom for the 'home' function.
The Back and Home functions are universal in all apps; e.g., they will work in Chrome browser, where I can swipe from left edge to go back to previous page, and swipe from bottom to exit app.
I also changed some settings in All in one Gestures. For example, I made the 'Edge Width' longer under 'Edge Preference', and also made the touch area transparent under 'Transparency and Color'. There are also settings for tweaking the swipe area and sensitivity. I haven't played with them to much, but they may become useful for certain games to avoid accidentally triggering the actions.
ikeny said:
A large tablet comes with the price of greater hand/arm travel distance when working with the screen. I am by no means complaining any sore elbows here. But it does take some getting used to, especially for those coming from smaller (7" - 8") tablets. Over and over again when my hand moves up and down between the screen and the (home and capacitive) buttons, I can't help but wish I had multi-touch gestures like on an iPad.
If my GNP were rooted, GMD Gestures would have solved my problem. But I am not ready to trip that stupid Knox counter yet. So here we are.
I came across this app called All in one Gesture. It doesn't have multi-touch, but at least some simple 'swiping from edges' functions.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phoenixstudios.aiogestures
Let me share with you my experience on working with this app. First, after installation, you need to enable the app under Accessibility in Settings before you can activate/use the gestures. But soon, Android will warn you of disabling a whole bunch of functions as a result, including Multi window. See attachment.
The good news is, some of those functions can be re-enabled to work with All-in-one-Gesture without issues. I tested Multi window, Air view and Direct pen input and they all seemed to be working fine after re-enabling. (I don't use the others, but I suspect some other ones would work too). But you should exercise cautious when doing so. For example, Multi window requires swiping from right edge to activate; and so I should not use the swiping from right edge gesture. Currently, I only use swiping from left for the 'back' function, and swiping from bottom for the 'home' function.
The Back and Home functions are universal in all apps; e.g., they will work in Chrome browser, where I can swipe from left edge to go back to previous page, and swipe from bottom to exit app.
I also changed some settings in All in one Gestures. For example, I made the 'Edge Width' longer under 'Edge Preference', and also made the touch area transparent under 'Transparency and Color'. There are also settings for tweaking the swipe area and sensitivity. I haven't played with them to much, but they may become useful for certain games to avoid accidentally triggering the actions.
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Thanks! Sounds interesting! Will try this asap!
i found it today and it's very close to the perfect app i was looking for!
has anyone noticed a degrade in battery life? which are your views?