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Hey, new to the forums, recently purchased a GSM Hero.
I have done some development for free software (think freedom, not price) projects, and have become accustomed to git repositories and structured development.
Upon entering the world of custom Android ROMs (at least Hero ROMs) I have been sorely disappointed with the development practices going on, releases on file sharing sites and the like.
On top of this, none of the ROMs available suit my needs.
This is all fine, as I'm not developing those ROMs.
I have decided that I need to start working on my own custom ROM, however guides and documentation regarding this process are in short supply.
It would be much appreciated if someone could link me to some guides to starting my own custom ROM.
I intend it to be a light vanilla ROM, with none of the bloat that seems to perpetuate other ROMs, I'm aware other such ROMs do exist, however none of them support all features, and even those that claim to do so, often require me to FC
naivemonarch said:
I'm aware other such ROMs do exist, however none of them support all features, and even those that claim to do so, often require me to FC
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Have you tried this one ? >[2.1] aychteesees-vanilla-cupcake< NOT the [3.0.1]verison ..this is still @dev
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...96/3-0-1-aychteesees-vanilla-cupcake-rom-gsm/
Give it a try [2.1] ! and tell us how it went ...
Yeah I tried that one, it claims to have full functionality, however I frequently had to FC various applications.
I'm downloading 3.0.1 as we speak, however I'd still like some resources on making my own ROM.
I'm interested on this documentation too....thanks
naivemonarch said:
Yeah I tried that one, it claims to have full functionality, however I frequently had to FC various applications.
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That's weird , I have used almost everything ( apps ) with that ROM [2.1] ... and never get FC's
Did you flashed from Zero .. I mean with all he possible wiping . inlcuding SD ext partition wipe
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That is a MUST ..!
Before this gets too off-topic, I too would like to concur with what OP is saying. I'd love some info on where to begin with custom ROMs, and I think it would be great if we could create a community repo for code for a custom ROM.
This leads me to another question: all these custom ROMs that we see available for download -- are they free/open source? Like, do they have source code available? I certainly don't think they do, but if they don't, then aren't they violating the terms of the GPL by not providing source code?
FunkTrooper said:
Before this gets too off-topic, I too would like to concur with what OP is saying. I'd love some info on where to begin with custom ROMs, and I think it would be great if we could create a community repo for code for a custom ROM.
This leads me to another question: all these custom ROMs that we see available for download -- are they free/open source? Like, do they have source code available? I certainly don't think they do, but if they don't, then aren't they violating the terms of the GPL by not providing source code?
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There's Paul's (modaco) online kitchen, but if you want to compile by yourself, there's a plethora of gits on github (cyanogen, lokx, kiall to mention just a few).
Good question. Yeah it would be nice if there was a 'Cooking Class' thread on this forum like in some of the other forums. There is a decent tutorial however at HTCpedia.com under the HTC Hero ROM Development section, it's in the stickies there. However, I still have questions and that forum is not visited as much as xda.
Link to cooking thread:
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1404
FunkTrooper said:
Before this gets too off-topic, I too would like to concur with what OP is saying. I'd love some info on where to begin with custom ROMs, and I think it would be great if we could create a community repo for code for a custom ROM.
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As a start, I would read that thread I just linked above. Once you can dump the contents inside the system.img and then combine it with the boot.img to build an update.zip, then you are already halfway there - that's actually fairly easy. But knowing how to add custom kernels to the update.zip, making the custom ROM rooted, etc. are all stuff that I'm still working on. There's supposed to be a lot of info in the Dream/Magic forums, so I'll keep reading.
Android is still fairly new and very few people know how to use Linux, thus there's less support and less interest in wanting to cook for one's own Android device.
BTW, that thread I linked above is also found here.. Doh!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551711
Thanks for the link, a good read.
Anyone know what the process is for using a custom kernel? There are a few things I'l like to enable that aren't in the HTC kernel (like FUSE).
naivemonarch said:
Thanks for the link, a good read.
Anyone know what the process is for using a custom kernel? There are a few things I'l like to enable that aren't in the HTC kernel (like FUSE).
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If I eventually manage to find out I will post it here. My most important concern is making a rooted ROM from those shipped ROMs, as some people have been doing here.
I'm pleased to present my MoDaCo Custom ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S! READ THIS WHOLE POST BEFORE YOU START! No, really, it contains everything you need to know. wink.gif
This ROM is the 'starting point' for my Galaxy S custom ROMs.
About MoDaCo Custom ROMs
MoDaCo Custom ROMs are based on official ROMs - either shipping or leaked. A MCR release is designed to feel as far as possible like a stock ROM, with optimisations, tweaks and complimentary additions that enhance the user experience. The aim of a MCR is to be ultra reliable for use on an everyday device.
Requirements
In order to use this ROM on your device, YOU MUST ALREADY BE RUNNING THE JFB ROM FROM HERE. Do NOT use this ROM with any other base, unpredictable things will happen, the most likely being you'll have to reflash your device via Odin.
Features Included
* Based on the JFB release
* Rooted with Superuser 2.1 by ChainsDD
* Built with the MCR build process which reduces the size and boosts the speed of the ROM
* busybox with Droid Explorer support
* Updated Google Maps
* MCR version displayed in 'About' screen
* Optional Google Voice Search
* Optional Google Voice Dialer
* Optional Fancy Widget
* Optional Beebplayer
* Optional baked in Wavesecure via the online kitchen (installed to system partition for maximum security)
Changelog
Please see 2 posts below this one for the changes in each release.
Installation
To install this ROM:
* Ensure you have the JFB ROM installed (linked above)
* Download the zip file of your choice from the links below (or the online kitchen) and copy to your SD card named 'update.zip'
* Restart your device in recovery mode by running 'adb reboot recovery' (download adb if you do not have it already, use adb-windows, adb-mac or adb-linux as appropriate)
* Select the option to apply an update zip, and select the zip file you copied to your memory card
Upgrading
No wipe is explicitly required in order to use this ROM, however if you do encounter issues of any kind, it is recommended that you wipe your device and reproduce the issue before raising it here.
Downloads
This ROM is currently only available in the online kitchen - prebakes to follow.
Thanks
It's impossible to mention everyone who contributes to the Android community by name, but to everyone out there who does great work and shares it with us all - you have my gratitude and respect.
And finally...
If you would like to show your appreciation for the ROM, please consider supporting MoDaCo by signing up for a MoDaCo Ad Free or MoDaCo Plus account, both of which also give you early access to Beta ROM releases and access to the the online kitchens.
Enjoy!
http://android.modaco.com/content/s...rom-for-samsung-galaxy-s-with-online-kitchen/
Does this ROM fix the ram issue so that all 512MB of ram is utilized?
Congrats on being the first custom rom here.
Congratulations! I don't have a phone yet but I am very pleased to see a custom rom already!
woohoo custom ROMs already. Guess I'll be getting myself the phone after all.
umm.. but in another thread people where saying that it wasn't gonna be possible because samsung encrypt their drivers etc. so this mean they did release they drivers? and there is gonna be alot of custom rooms for galaxy gravity?
Perrosky said:
umm.. but in another thread people where saying that it wasn't gonna be possible because samsung encrypt their drivers etc. so this mean they did release they drivers? and there is gonna be alot of custom rooms for galaxy gravity?
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No I said it would be near impossible to get roms from other sources like Sense roms or Froyo on because of the driver issue. I never said you would never see custom roms. The only roms you are going to see are one's based off of Samsungs release.
Hold on, hold on. So even though Samsung released the Galaxy S' driver source code to the public, it's going to be "near impossible" to port Sense and FroYo to the phone? I may be ignorant but I'll just ask with ignorance, how do you figure?
Javalu said:
Hold on, hold on. So even though Samsung released the Galaxy S' driver source code to the public, it's going to be "near impossible" to port Sense and FroYo to the phone? I may be ignorant but I'll just ask with ignorance, how do you figure?
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Download the source code..... ok now open it and go to GalaxyS_Kernel.tar.gz. Now in there just enter the first folder then go to modules. Go to Dpram. Open up any of those files in notepad. You should see written non-compiled code right? That is fine now go back to the module folders and go to S3cbc. Now open up s3cbc_module.o. Does that look like non-compiled code? No it doesn't. It's either already compiled or encrypted. That's what I mean
psychoace said:
No I said it would be near impossible to get roms from other sources like Sense roms or Froyo on because of the driver issue. I never said you would never see custom roms. The only roms you are going to see are one's based off of Samsungs release.
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Quick question, does that mean any custom rom that is release will be based off the official rom they release which has Touchwiz backed in? If so, does that rule out a plain vanilla android rom for this device? Thanks for your help and appreciate the knowledge.
Papa_I said:
Quick question, does that mean any custom rom that is release will be based off the official rom they release which has Touchwiz backed in? If so, does that rule out a plain vanilla android rom for this device? Thanks for your help and appreciate the knowledge.
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No it doesn't rule out plain vanilla android rom. Yes they will all be based on Samsung but rom makers can take out all the touchwiz garbage and throw in another launcher like adw or Launcherpro.
That's what I wanted to hear. Thanks for the help. Now if I only could decide if I should keep the Nexus One or purchase this phone..... Decisions, Decisions.
psychoace said:
Download the source code..... ok now open it and go to GalaxyS_Kernel.tar.gz. Now in there just enter the first folder then go to modules. Go to Dpram. Open up any of those files in notepad. You should see written non-compiled code right? That is fine now go back to the module folders and go to S3cbc. Now open up s3cbc_module.o. Does that look like non-compiled code? No it doesn't. It's either already compiled or encrypted. That's what I mean
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How lame. Have other handsets had similar problems?
what are talking about .o files and unix compiled modules same on all versions of unix. o stands for object module.
Javalu said:
How lame. Have other handsets had similar problems?
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Yes the Behold 2, the original Galaxy, and the Moment all made by Samsung have only had Samsung roms on them.
lgkahn said:
what are talking about .o files and unix compiled modules same on all versions of unix. o stands for object module.
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So they can easily be decompiled? If it's source code why is it already compiled?
dont go too deep into specific things that we may not even need (we are not coders here) but the source code for basic hardware that we need to get things going are already there.. things like camera, wlan, etc. btw, do u know what s3cbc is for?
raspdeep said:
dont go too deep into specific things that we may not even need (we are not coders here) but the source code for basic hardware that we need to get things going are already there.. things like camera, wlan, etc. btw, do u know what s3cbc is for?
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What about s3clcd? Here is a little copy and paste of some of the garble that was in the compiled file
screen width=%d height=%d va=0x%x pa=0x%x
I would go out on a limb and say those are video drivers. The one's that have been encrypted on all other samsung phones.
Also in s3cbc there is some code at the bottom
PVRSRV_PIXEL_FORMAT_YUY2 PVRSRV_ERROR_FIFO_SPACE char ui32ByteStride psDevInfo PVRSRV_PIXEL_FORMAT_PAL1 PVRSRV_PIXEL_FORMAT_PAL2 pfnOpenBCDevic
If you don't know the Galaxy's gpu is PowerVR SGX540 and YUY2 is a colol format for video screens
http://www.fourcc.org/yuv.php#YUY2 and Pal is of course a European video standard.
they are not encrypted, they are object codes in machine language for arm.. and why we need that again for custom roms?
Wanted to test modaco ROM but they are not free.. Any kind souls upload and share ?
well feedback on the R1 rom its clean and smooth, worked even better when i did the stall tweak posted here
http://android.modaco.com/content/s...298/got-the-stalling-problem-rooted-try-this/
the phone seriously got 2 times faster, opening apps playing game very quick .. happy as here
Ferdimage said:
well feedback on the R1 rom its clean and smooth, worked even better when i did the stall tweak posted here
http://android.modaco.com/content/s...298/got-the-stalling-problem-rooted-try-this/
the phone seriously got 2 times faster, opening apps playing game very quick .. happy as here
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How much free ram have you got? Considering flashing and rooting, but not sure if it's worth it right now. Meh 10£ isn't that much think I'm gonna give it a try.
EDIT: Just flashed, but now I don't have root access(says access denied when I try to access the /data/data folder). Thought this included the rooted PDA file or do I have to flash that again with odin?
EDIT2: Scratch that I forgot to press the allow-button on my phone after sending the Super-user request..
I just sent them this
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Hello,
kernel source for 1.29 and 2.05 for HTC One X is still not available.
These delays are hindering community efforts to fix your inept software and are in breach of GPL. Please provide me the link to the source to to those 2 kernels and make sure that you release the source at the same time as the binary form.
I am ready to escalate this via gpl-violations.org unless your response satisfies me.
Regards
Jan Schermer
If anybody wants to chime in, you're welcome.
Samsung is just better at this.. look at the SIII it was released after the OneX but it has many many more custom truly cocked roms!
And i'm sick of such useless posts. They will release it when they will release it. Get a life.
Why would they publish the source for a test RUU? 1.29 OK but not 2.05 yet
zvieratko said:
I just sent them this
Code:
Hello,
kernel source for 1.29 and 2.05 for HTC One X is still not available.
These delays are hindering community efforts to fix your inept software and are in breach of GPL. Please provide me the link to the source to to those 2 kernels and make sure that you release the source at the same time as the binary form.
I am ready to escalate this via gpl-violations.org unless your response satisfies me.
Regards
Jan Schermer
If anybody wants to chime in, you're welcome.
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you forgot one main thing
2.05 is unreleased and leaked
And now no more leaked test releases lol.
Well done!!! Demand source codes for versions that aren't even released yet.
Lmao what is going on here
Sent from eXoDiZeD rom
They have to provide source code for every binary to those who got the binary. So I assume those 2.05 testers have the source for their kernels, don't they? if they did, it would leak, and we would profit from it (it's our right because so does HTC!).
Also, what devs here do is illegal - I could demand the source code from them but they don't have it - is it okay to force them into illegality just because HTC are being ignorant?
And those posts are not meaningless, they are violating GPL and withholding source code for no real reason. All source-built kernels are still based on 1.28, but they fixed a lot of stuff on 1.29, and for me (a linux professional) those hacks show in lots of places.
What are you doing here if you really want HTC-built Sense then? Do you want to run slapped-together binary ROMs because there is no source for the latest update? This is called Android Development for a reason.
zvieratko said:
They have to provide source code for every binary to those who got the binary. So I assume those 2.05 testers have the source for their kernels, don't they? if they did, it would leak, and we would profit from it (it's our right because so does HTC!).
Also, what devs here do is illegal - I could demand the source code from them but they don't have it - is it okay to force them into illegality just because HTC are being ignorant?
And those posts are not meaningless, they are violating GPL and withholding source code for no real reason. All source-built kernels are still based on 1.28, but they fixed a lot of stuff on 1.29, and for me (a linux professional) those hacks show in lots of places.
What are you doing here if you really want HTC-built Sense then? Do you want to run slapped-together binary ROMs because there is no source for the latest update? This is called Android Development for a reason.
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you can not demand anything from an internal leaked file! in fact your possession of the leaked rom might be illegal lol
hamdir said:
you can not demand anything from an internal leaked file! in fact your possession of the leaked rom might be illegal lol
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That might be true. But AFAIK the 2.05 RUU was provided to some public testers as well.
I just opted to demand 2.05 as well in case it takes them a month to respond and it will be released by then, it did no harm in any case.
Also, we wouldn't have to have this debate if the development was actually transparent (that means - HTC working with community, not just pushing uncompilable sources for their old kernels). But I guess most managers can't grasp that concept without the proper buzzwords.
Sorry, I'm pissed at many more things than just HTC right now, but I directed my anger here
zvieratko said:
They have to provide source code for every binary to those who got the binary. So I assume those 2.05 testers have the source for their kernels, don't they? if they did, it would leak, and we would profit from it (it's our right because so does HTC!)....
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You can demand open source codes not closed source and to get open source android, simply get AOSP sources. HTC will publish their sources when they want and after they finish.
EOT.
AdamLange said:
You can demand open source codes not closed source and to get open source android, simply get AOSP sources. HTC will publish their sources when they want and after they finish.
EOT.
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You know that kernel is GPL and what that means, right? Or are you just trolling? HTC is obliged to provide source code - it's not a goodwill gesture, and they consistently fail to do that.
Or are you talking just about 2.05? In that case, the first tester outside HTC should get the source code and would be free to release it to us - closed beta or not.
Some parts of kernel may be closed (for example modules). They can post kernel without them. Its like AOSP android, you can download it, and compile and use, but you will not get Android Apps (gmail,youtube etc) included. cause they are CLOSED.
AdamLange said:
Some parts of kernel may be closed (for example modules). They can post kernel without them. Its like AOSP android, you can download it, and compile and use, but you will not get Android Apps (gmail,youtube etc) included. cause they are CLOSED.
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Yes, but they don't even post the sources without blobs...
sorr932 said:
Samsung is just better at this.. look at the SIII it was released after the OneX but it has many many more custom truly cocked roms!
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Pmsl
TRULY COCKED ROMS
pro tip, if you don't act like a self-entitled brat when asking for something which they are required todo you are more likely to get an informed helpful response.
if that really is the email that you sent I wouldn't be surprised if it was just moved to the email bin
AdamLange said:
And i'm sick of such useless posts. They will release it when they will release it. Get a life.
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+1:good:
Patrick Volkerdings: Its finished if its finished
sorr932 said:
Samsung is just better at this.. look at the SIII it was released after the OneX but it has many many more custom truly cocked roms!
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Frankly ,they can have x3 more custom rom`s but we have one who is better then all SIII ROM`s together , we are so lucky and really need to be proud with our original developers like Venom Team , so S3 performance without ROM like our ViperX is in vain.
Don`t worry be happy! :victory:
Thread now closed. This thread has become off topic. I have had to remove a couple of posts that had bad language. Remember people to follow XDA rules when posting.
Just a reminder of some old rules that seem to be forgotten. We are not out to make the dev's lives harder or to be a pain in the neck. XDA has had issues in the past from kanging to malicious code in kernel's. They are based on the GPL and you are free to modify and distribute, however you must share your changes and cannot charge for your work. (my summary of the GPL). That's why when we distribute a kernel in a rom, we fall under the GPL guidelines and have to follow some simple rules to keep XDA and our members out of trouble. Thanks again to all the Dev's for your understanding and outstanding contributions.
Anyone providing a ROM with a Kernel include should mention and link what kernel is used.
This means either:
Stock kernel is used (OP has to say that)
OP uses a 3rd party kernel (from another user), then he has say that and link to the thread)
OP uses his own kernel in which case he has to upload sources as per GPL and XDA rules and link them. (Please note: sometimes only the ram disk of a stock kernel is modified, this does NOT fall under the GPL. Example: Making a stock kernel 'insecure')
Concerning GAPPS: CM and some other were asked by google to NOT include them. But only those parties. Everyone else can include them unless asked by the owner (ie Google) to remove them.
This also means in theory that everyone with a CM kang can include GAPPS, however most people don't (which is obviously fine too)
I don't think any OEM ROM was ever forced to remove GAPPS.
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Moderators Note about MoKee. These ROMs in the past were known for distributing adware/malware. As they claim to be "Open Source" now, you should still be cautious about flashing MoKee ROMs. Currently this ROM is under review by Moderation Staff.
Android 4.4 Kitkat for Defy and Defy+
This is the latest Mokee ROM for our very own and never dying cell,Motorola Defy/Defy plus(Aka.jordan/jordanplus) based on the latest android OS Kitkat 4.4.
About MoKee OpenSource:
MoKee OpenSource is based on Google AOSP and CyanogenMod Android source development of a branch,
but also the country's first complete open-source Android project, users and developers around the home.
Google open source projects follow the rapid escalation, and for the user habits, improvements and enhancements.
Magic Fun Forum December 12, 2012 launch of the project, is committed to making this form of localization of open source CyanogenMod ROM.
Open source project, any interested technical experts who can participate in the development, its contribution to the force!
Project Address: http://www.mfunz.com
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Mfunz/Mokee os Official page http://
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Developers http://www.mfunz.com/contributors/
Forum: http://bbs.mfunz.com
Tutorial: http://bbs.mfunz.com/
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Statistics: http://stats.mfunz.com
audit: http://review . mfunz.com
Github: https://github.com/MoKee
code tracking: http://issues.mfunz.com/
code tracking - Mobile: http://issues.mfunz.com/
mobi
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its contribution to the force!
Project Address: http://www.mfunz.com
Update recovery first then flash this:
Download :http://pan.baidu.com/s/17YFiu
Gapps:?
Here is the link from the original post:
http://bbs.mfunz.com/thread-920983-1-1.html
Change Log :http://changelog.mfunz.com/
Screenshots :
As I can see you've post the 14.12 version and not the last 16.12 version which contains many bugs repaired. Can you post the last one? THX.
Guys, but why are you still using Mokee, aren't they including malware in every ROM now? :/
niksy+ said:
Guys, but why are you still using Mokee, aren't they including malware in every ROM now? :/
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My solution is very simple Root Explorer and delete all parts of the MoKee from /system/app
niksy+ said:
Guys, but why are you still using Mokee, aren't they including malware in every ROM now? :/
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Those Chinese apps is not exactly malware. Because is not useful for me I've uninstalled it with Titanium and recover some ROM. Also I replace the Mokee launcher and keyboard and make a very reliable and stable OS ( 4950 pts under Antutu 4.1.4).
deffyplus said:
My solution is very simple Root Explorer and delete all parts of the MoKee from /system/app
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Those Chinese apps is not exactly malware. Because is not useful for me I've uninstalled it with Titanium and recover some ROM. Also I replace the Mokee launcher and keyboard and make a very reliable and stable OS ( 4950 pts under Antutu 4.1.4).
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Exactly ! )
And i also use it as i dont get battery drops like in cm10.2
pgreed said:
As I can see you've post the 14.12 version and not the last 16.12 version which contains many bugs repaired. Can you post the last one? THX.
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On the official site i am getting 14/12 build only....if u get some link do send me,i'll add it to the post
pgreed said:
Those Chinese apps is not exactly malware. Because is not useful for me I've uninstalled it with Titanium and recover some ROM. Also I replace the Mokee launcher and keyboard and make a very reliable and stable OS ( 4950 pts under Antutu 4.1.4).
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And how is it that it's "not exactly malware"? Is it just partially malware? Almost malware? Maybe malware? Or is a "variant of Android/TrojanDownloader.Adload.B trojan" really just not that bad?
And then when people caught on to it they also modified the keyboard app too... but nah... can't be that bad, since they are actually fixing many bugs that aren't being taken cared of by serious developers that contribute directly to XDA, right? Oh wait, their change log doesn't really reflect anything different than what's already being taken care of by other developers who are actually compiling and programming for our Defy...
As a tip, you can and should delete those apps before flashing (with 7zip), that way they aren't ever run on your phone; once you flash the first thing that will start up will be the keyboard.
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And how is it that it's "not exactly malware"? Is it just partially malware? Almost malware? Maybe malware? Or is a "variant of Android/TrojanDownloader.Adload.B trojan" really just not that bad?
And then when people caught on to it they also modified the keyboard app too... but nah... can't be that bad, since they are actually fixing many bugs that aren't being taken cared of by serious developers that contribute directly to XDA, right? Oh wait, their change log doesn't really reflect anything different than what's already being taken care of by other developers who are actually compiling and programming for our Defy...
As a tip, you can and should delete those apps before flashing (with 7zip), that way they aren't ever run on your phone; once you flash the first thing that will start up will be the keyboard.
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that it is also possible
Antiga Prime said:
And how is it that it's "not exactly malware"? Is it just partially malware? Almost malware? Maybe malware? Or is a "variant of Android/TrojanDownloader.Adload.B trojan" really just not that bad? ... be the keyboard.
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maybe the correct term is adware? For the rest: I found that ROM to be the most stable, battery efficient and with all the settings I need. 'till now the rest of 4.3 custom ROMs do not comply with the above needs and the 4.4.x is not enough mature. The only problem with Mokee 4.3 is that SistemUI slowly growing which suffocate the RAM and need periodical reboot -but that appear to be common to 4.3.x . Those grow seems to be closely related to apps installation and update.
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abhinavvaidya90 said:
On the official site i am getting 14/12 build only....if u get some link do send me,i'll add it to the post
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Hm .. the 16.12 version seems not to be public yet!
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maybe the correct term is adware? For the rest: I found that ROM to be the most stable, battery efficient and with all the settings I need. 'till now the rest of 4.3 custom ROMs do not comply with the above needs and the 4.4.x is not enough mature. The only problem with Mokee 4.3 is that SistemUI slowly growing which suffocate the RAM and need periodical reboot -but that appear to be common to 4.3.x . Those grow seems to be closely related to apps installation and update.
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Hardly the point. First of all, the fact that they have to hide it in an app most people will need to start up the ROM is shady at best. Second of all, regardless of how AV companies label the malicious software they find, a trojan downloader is essentially a backdoor for the app developer to open it and to deliver a payload that can behave differently than just "adware", without the user's consent or knowledge. That fact alone should make people think twice before installing/using this ROM, especially once people are aware that the developer's intentions are not necessarily intentions that promote the improvement and development of Android.
People can choose what they want, just my two cents on why we are tolerating malware, adware, trojans, or whatever you want to call it. There are a lot of people who also frequent these forums who won't know how to delete the malicious apps before flashing, regardless of whether they should be able to or not.
It's different when you have to mod things to your liking or to improve functionality, but hidden and persistent malware/adware placed by the developers themselves...?
We shouldn't have to tolerate that...
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Hardly the point. First of all, the fact that they have to hide it in an app most people will need to start up the ROM is shady at best. Second of all, regardless of how AV companies label the malicious software they find, a trojan downloader is essentially a backdoor for the app developer to open it and to deliver a payload that can behave differently than just "adware", without the user's consent or knowledge. That fact alone should make people think twice before installing/using this ROM, especially once people are aware that the developer's intentions are not necessarily intentions that promote the improvement and development of Android.
People can choose what they want, just my two cents on why we are tolerating malware, adware, trojans, or whatever you want to call it. There are a lot of people who also frequent these forums who won't know how to delete the malicious apps before flashing, regardless of whether they should be able to or not.
It's different when you have to mod things to your liking or to improve functionality, but hidden and persistent malware/adware placed by the developers themselves...?
We shouldn't have to tolerate that...
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Completely agree with you. Personally I think this ROM should be banned from XDA, where piracy and even promoting your paid themes isn't allowed. For me it is unimaginable that a trojanned ROM can be posted. discussions about how easy it is to remove don't matter, like you said. Hence I have reported to the mods.
@ others: Yes people can choose what they want, like antiga said, but on XDA the choice of installing trojans shouldn't even exist. There are shadier websites one can visit to get their trojan fixes.
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Ok, 2 things.
1) Thread moved to General, as it's just links to the MoKee site, as it appears the OP is not an official maintainer, and just posted links. As such it does not qualify as development.
2) Thread is currently closed pending investigation of current MoKee practices.
In the past MoKee had been known to included adware in their apps. Did they include Malware? Depends who you talk to. However, MoKee was discouraged at XDA, along with MIUI ROMs which also operate under a similar principle.
However, MoKee claims to be "Open Source" and their github seems to reflect that.
It is advisable however, to remove any suspicious apk's just to be safe until a disposition is made. And considering it's a Chinese ROM with a past reputation, might want to change keyboard apk's as well
Thread closed for the time being.
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