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I know BB and Futureshop are taking pre-orders today, but so are Bell and Virgin. So I decided to call in and pre-order since it wouldn't let me pre-order with no-term.
Well it turns out I was eligible for some data-discount. I expected to pay the full $649, but am only paying $235! Pre-ordered, shipped to my house. Lovely! Now, I wait.
I see where Bell and Virgin Mobile are selling the GN off contract at $650.00 Canadian (approx $628.00 US, using yahoo currency conversion) for shipping around Dec 7. I could not find the GN on the other 2 sources that you mentioned.
Depending what happens here in the US in the near future, this may be an option for me, instead of ordering from Europe.
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I know BB and Futureshop are taking pre-orders today, but so are Bell and Virgin. So I decided to call in and pre-order since it wouldn't let me pre-order with no-term.
Well it turns out I was eligible for some data-discount. I expected to pay the full $649, but am only paying $235! Pre-ordered, shipped to my house. Lovely! Now, I wait.
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How long did you have left on your contract? I have about 18 months left on a 3 year contract and was looking at getting a galaxy nexus at full price from handtec but if i can get it for a discounted price from bell i would rather do that.
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How long did you have left on your contract? I have about 18 months left on a 3 year contract and was looking at getting a galaxy nexus at full price from handtec but if i can get it for a discounted price from bell i would rather do that.
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I upgraded to a Moto Atrix the day of their release and I've been sitting since this. So I'd say I've got atleast 30 months left on my contract. She said something about giving me a discount based on my Data plan (I have 6gb for $30).
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I see where Bell and Virgin Mobile are selling the GN off contract at $650.00 Canadian (approx $628.00 US, using yahoo currency conversion) for shipping around Dec 7. I could not find the GN on the other 2 sources that you mentioned.
Depending what happens here in the US in the near future, this may be an option for me, instead of ordering from Europe.
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BB's pre-order is in-store only with $50 down:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/galaxy-nexus-from-google/pc_nexus.aspx
I agree Canada's pricing looks a heck of a lot more promising!
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I upgraded to a Moto Atrix the day of their release and I've been sitting since this. So I'd say I've got atleast 30 months left on my contract. She said something about giving me a discount based on my Data plan (I have 6gb for $30).
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What number did you call?
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What number did you call?
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originally 1800 667 0123! I went through some menu stuff.
And yes, BB and Futureshop are both taking pre-orders with $50 down, but Bell is doing it free of charge, and the amount goes on your next bill.
I just called and i would have to pay full price, i'll keep my pre order with handtec i guess.
I just talked to Bell. The GN is 159.99 on a 3 year.
So could American's pre-order from one of the Canadian carriers/retailers and use the phone on ATT/T-Mobile? The Canadian version is the same GSM/HSPA version as in the UK, correct?
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So could American's pre-order from one of the Canadian carriers/retailers and use the phone on ATT/T-Mobile? The Canadian version is the same GSM/HSPA version as in the UK, correct?
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This what I am considering. I am on Tmobile in the US who will likely not sell this phone, so this seems like a good option for me. I am going to wait until we get closer to Dec 8 before making a decision. A lot could happen here in the US by then.
I went to my local Bell store today on my lunch break with the intention of dumping Rogers to become a Bell customer and pre-order the Nexus. Well, they didn't even realize it was officially up for pre-order today. They said I could go online and enter my email address to get notified for more info (which is what the Bell site had until today).
Then they said they could write down my name and call me if they got some in stock. I said I was hoping to actually sign up with Bell and reserve a phone, but they wouldn't even sell me a SIM card without a contract and come back for the phone later. I was completely willing to become a Bell customer, but they didn't seem interested.
I should note that we deal with this Bell store at my work and they are not known for being too bright, so I honestly wasn't expecting much. One of them was a kid who seemed to think he was in charge, and the other was a woman who was indifferent and apathetic to the point of frustration. I'll call or go to a better store, but I thought I'd share this ridiculous experience
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This what I am considering. I am on Tmobile in the US who will likely not sell this phone, so this seems like a good option for me. I am going to wait until we get closer to Dec 8 before making a decision. A lot could happen here in the US by then.
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So could American's pre-order from one of the Canadian carriers/retailers and use the phone on ATT/T-Mobile? The Canadian version is the same GSM/HSPA version as in the UK, correct?
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I think Bell might be the GSM one as well, as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Mobility
But then again it's Wiki, I don't have any knowledge on Canadian carriers.
Rogers is also going to get it, not sure if that one is going to be GSM as well. People in those networks, can anyone answer please?
Canada is gsm now. they dumped cdma
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I think Bell might be the GSM one as well, as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Mobility
But then again it's Wiki, I don't have any knowledge on Canadian carriers.
Rogers is also going to get it, not sure if that one is going to be GSM as well. People in those networks, can anyone answer please?
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GNex Specifications on bell's site:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA+ network
Download speeds: up to 21 Mbps
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Global access
Wi-Fi
GPS
Bluetooth® 3.0
USB connection
The only model Canada will be getting is the GSM/HSPA+ model.
The only other Galaxy Nexus model is the Verizon-specific one. Verizon gets that one and everyone else in the world (including Canada, all carriers) gets the petaband GSM/HSPA+ one.
Anyone know if Bell or Virgin are letting people pre-order on Pay as you Go plans?
So who is selling this unlocked? I want to pre-order an unlocked version today. Looks like Bell is only letting you go with a 3 year contract. Virgin /w contract too.
Futureshop: "The Galaxy Nexus is available at launch through all Future Shop stores on the Bell and Virgin networks." What does this mean?
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So who is selling this unlocked? I want to pre-order an unlocked version today. Looks like Bell is only letting you go with a 3 year contract. Virgin /w contract too.
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There are options on both the Bell and Virgin Mobile web sites that show the Galaxy Nexus for about $650.00 (Canadian) off contract. They also show options to pre order.
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There are options on both the Bell and Virgin Mobile web sites that show the Galaxy Nexus for about $650.00 off contract. They also show options to pre order.
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I guess I'm not seeing it... on both. I'm in BC. Does this option not exist. Just spent a good 5 minutes on each site trying to figure this out, but still don't see an option for an unlocked version.
EDIT: Just got off with Bell support and said they are *NOT* selling an unlocked version of the Galaxy Nexus.
Is it worth it to wait and see if the GN drops in the US? Right now I can get one from Handtec for ~$696, but if it dropped here would it really be priced any cheaper? It's set to be Canadian$650 (~$636 in American monies), would it be priced maybe around $600 if it's released here? Maybe even less?
Or, is the HSPA+ version even going to come out stateside? All I've been hearing about is the CDMA/LTE version.
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Canadian version is only US$ 636???
if that is true I will definitely buy one!
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Canadian version is only US$ 636???
if that is true I will definitely buy one!
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But you have to be on their carrier and blah blah you can't just buy it outright.
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Is it worth it to wait and see if the GN drops in the US? Right now I can get one from Handtec for ~$696, but if it dropped here would it really be priced any cheaper? It's set to be Canadian$650 (~$636 in American monies), would it be priced maybe around $600 if it's released here? Maybe even less?
Or, is the HSPA+ version even going to come out stateside? All I've been hearing about is the CDMA/LTE version.
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I debated this for a long long time. Then my N1 had it's usual set of daily hiccups, and I had it. So I bought one. It's a great gadget, and almost worth the $700 I paid.
But, if you're okay with your current phone, stick it out and wait. It won't go up in price.
Early adopters never get rewarded. Only screwed with headaches.
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But you have to be on their carrier and blah blah you can't just buy it outright.
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is there any details?
You can buy off-contract if you are using that carrier?
or you can only get it along with 3yr plann?
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Is it worth it to wait and see if the GN drops in the US? Right now I can get one from Handtec for ~$696, but if it dropped here would it really be priced any cheaper? It's set to be Canadian$650 (~$636 in American monies), would it be priced maybe around $600 if it's released here? Maybe even less?
Or, is the HSPA+ version even going to come out stateside? All I've been hearing about is the CDMA/LTE version.
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If you go to Canada and buy it outright you're going to be paying local taxes in the 10%-15% range, and either paying to convert your USD or pay a foreign transaction fee on your credit card... and you're still gonna pay $700 out the door, just like ordering from the UK importers.
If/when it does come to the US unlocked I'd expect it in the $550 range. Just depends how much you wanna pay to get it now.
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I debated this for a long long time. Then my N1 had it's usual set of daily hiccups, and I had it. So I bought one. It's a great gadget, and almost worth the $700 I paid.
But, if you're okay with your current phone, stick it out and wait. It won't go up in price.
Early adopters never get rewarded. Only screwed with headaches.
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My HD2 died two months ago and I'm using a POS dumbphone with no data while still having to pay for data.
Ugh tough decisions. Where did you get yours from?
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If you go to Canada and buy it outright you're going to be paying local taxes in the 10%-15% range, and either paying to convert your USD or pay a foreign transaction fee on your credit card... and you're still gonna pay $700 out the door, just like ordering from the UK importers.
If/when it does come to the US unlocked I'd expect it in the $550 range.
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$550!? I sure hope so!
Sometime last week, an AT&T version passed through the FCC, with HSPA+. Just about a month or so ago, AT&T was asking customers (on twitter, I believe) who would be interested in the device on their network. Seems like they listened.
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Sometime last week, an AT&T version passed through the FCC, with HSPA+. Just about a month or so ago, AT&T was asking customers (on twitter, I believe) who would be interested in the device on their network. Seems like they listened.
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Would it still be the same penta-band GN? If it's just AT&T bands that also doesn't help me.
EDIT: Reading the FCC filing suggests their GN only supports 1900/850. European version it is. Damn you Ma Bell.
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$550!? I sure hope so!
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Just based on what the Nexus One and Nexus S cost when they were sold unlocked here.
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Would it still be the same penta-band GN? If it's just AT&T bands that also doesn't help me.
EDIT: Reading the FCC filing suggests their GN only supports 1900/850. European version it is. Damn you Ma Bell.
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The FCC only has to worry about the bands that will be used in the states, which is 850/1900. No reason why they'd make a specific version with a quadband radio to only work on AT&T and not T-mobile. Its more expensive than just using the current pentaband version that's available and putting an AT&T battery cover on it.
I'll give it two weeks. If it doesn't come to the US in a T-Mobile friendly version I'm getting myself one for the holidays from across the pond.
Didnt the GSM pentaband version get approved by the FCC a week before the Verizon LTE version?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/10/t-mobile-att-ready-galaxy-nexusnexus-prime-passes-through-fcc/
psykick5 said:
My HD2 died two months ago and I'm using a POS dumbphone with no data while still having to pay for data.
Ugh tough decisions. Where did you get yours from?
$550!? I sure hope so!
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I got mine from Negri. But I'd probably go with Expansys-USA, as they apparently have better repair policies. Use ebates for 1.5% off. There's also a $20 coupon floating around.
On cybermonday ebates had a 6% back coupon with them! Was too iffy to pull the trigger then. Damn.
mstyle88 said:
Didnt the GSM pentaband version get approved by the FCC a week before the Verizon LTE version?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/10/t-mobile-att-ready-galaxy-nexusnexus-prime-passes-through-fcc/
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As the article says, just because it works on bands here and is passed through the FCC doesn't mean it will be sold here. Any phone that could be used on a carrier here needs to pass the FCC. The i9250 is the version being sold overseas right now.
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I think if you cant wait, you should get it from handtec or clove. they ship to usa and their prices dont include taxes for shipping to usa (i think, from what i have read and seen). the price is £445 including shipping, which is less than 700 usd.
i dont think it would release in usa for less than 649 (the same as the iphone 4s 16gb), then u have taxes etc.
plus who knows when is the unlocked version releasing.
Why can't Google just sell it like they did with the N1?
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Why can't Google just sell it like they did with the N1?
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This! Although I would LOVE it if Amazon USA would sell it.
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I think if you cant wait, you should get it from handtec or clove. they ship to usa and their prices dont include taxes for shipping to usa (i think, from what i have read and seen). the price is £445 including shipping, which is less than 700 usd.
i dont think it would release in usa for less than 649 (the same as the iphone 4s 16gb), then u have taxes etc.
plus who knows when is the unlocked version releasing.
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But they sold the Nexus S for $529 just fine unlocked this time last year. There's no reason why the 16gb Galaxy Nexus needs to be over $600 USD unlocked.
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Why can't Google just sell it like they did with the N1?
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Because from pretty much every angle, the Nexus One sales tactic was a failure. They partnered with Verizon this time to get bigger sales and exposure, and because of that we're not seeing it sold unlocked unfortunately.
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Because from pretty much every angle, the Nexus One sales tactic was a failure. They partnered with Verizon this time to get bigger sales and exposure, and because of that we're not seeing it sold unlocked unfortunately.
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True, but the carriers are nothing but a b*tch in the US. The Europeans have had this phone for three weeks now.
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Just based on what the Nexus One and Nexus S cost when they were sold unlocked here.
The FCC only has to worry about the bands that will be used in the states, which is 850/1900. No reason why they'd make a specific version with a quadband radio to only work on AT&T and not T-mobile. Its more expensive than just using the current pentaband version that's available and putting an AT&T battery cover on it.
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Actually, two different GSM versions have passed through the FCC - the pentaband international version, and a version with only AT&T HSPA+ bands, see here: http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-nexus-visits-fcc-again-but-with-att-bands-02199735/
So after almos 2 years im looking to change my htc incredible, because it feels old and slow compared with recent phones, and my carrier is offering both CMDA and GSM (i feel more comfortable with gsm) and i've always been a fan of qwerty phones,and seeing that HTC isnt going to release an android qwerty phone anytime soon, i checked the specs of the captivate glide and realise that its is really impressive better than the droid 3, cheaper than the droid 4.
im almost convinced to buy it, but before that i would like to clarify two things, one i really would like advice from regular and power users here at xda pros and cons, if it is worth it, or if should i save some extra money to buy the droid 4 (hate motoblur and there's no networks offering LTE on my country.) and the other thing is if anyone knows a reliable place where i can buy it online im from mexico, i have no problems with an glide with the at&t brand, but i've also read that the "rogers" glide doesnt have any brand. but i really dont know where to buy it.
i checked this site (www.negrielectronics.com)and they have it listed but i dont know if its realiable.
any help would be apreciated.
There's one for sale in the Marketplace here on XDA, I believe. You could start there. I upgraded from a T-Mobile G2 and haven't looked back since. The more we get out there, the better. CarpeNoctem has put out a great little ROM for it (OsiMood) and that paired with the Cranium Kernel and Go Launcher has really got me going! I can't make an honest recommendation comparing to Droids, as my only experience with them has been futzing with one of my client's original Droid and his new Droid3, haven't really gotten any regular use time with them...
One further thing, I would check which CDMA and GSM bands your carrier is offering, I believe if I recall correctly that the i927 does not support T-Mobile's 3G band, so you'd be stuck with EDGE for 3G, which is significantly slower...
Good luck, and I hope you love your new phone as much as I love mine
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I think its better than Droid 3..
Haven't tried Droid 4..
If facebranding is not a problem, you can go for at&t model as you can get it cheaper than Rogers..
One of my friend had got a phone through Negri electronics.. So far it is the only site I have come across which ships to almost all the countries..
Also try Ebay.. I got mine for 400$ in an auction.. + additional shipping, duty and unlocking charges..
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(www.negrielectronics.com)
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Sorry, meant to say something about this in my above post - Negri spams the hell out of Craigslist, at least local to me, I wouldn't buy from them for just this reason. If you can't find one here on the XDA Marketplace, I recommend Swappa or Amazon (though you'd probably end up paying more at either of those)
HTH
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thanx for the answers, yeah i said negri becasue its ships everywhere but i trust more on amazon but the thing with amazon its that they dont ship electronics oustide the US (or at least cellphones).
Regarding the bands used by my carrier, AFAIK all carriers in mexico use 850 for GSM and hdspa+ with the exception of one that besides 850 they also use 1900 and if remember correctly both frequencies are available on the glide.
and i would like to know how does the phone feels, average battery life, etc, im really interested in buying one..
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thanx for the answers, yeah i said negri becasue its ships everywhere but i trust more on amazon but the thing with amazon its that they dont ship electronics oustide the US (or at least cellphones).
Regarding the bands used by my carrier, AFAIK all carriers in mexico use 850 for GSM and hdspa+ with the exception of one that besides 850 they also use 1900 and if remember correctly both frequencies are available on the glide.
and i would like to know how does the phone feels, average battery life, etc, im really interested in buying one..
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The phone feels great in my hands, just the perfect size and I have a SGS II which feels too big in comparison, it is comfortable with the keyboard slides out as well. The battery life is the best I've encountered of any android phone so far.
Any other suggestion?
I tried:
negrielectronics.com (unlocked, out of stock for now)
mobicity (unlocked, out of stock for now)
canadagsm.com (unlocked)
amazon (locked)
ebay (locked and unlocked, but a bit expensive)
Can somebody provide any other supplier selling this phone? Already unlocked phones would be a very appreciated plus..
Thanks
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Any other suggestion?
I tried:
negrielectronics.com (unlocked, out of stock for now)
mobicity (unlocked, out of stock for now)
canadagsm.com (locked)
amazon (locked)
ebay (locked and unlocked, but a bit expensive)
Can somebody provide any other supplier selling this phone? Already unlocked phones would be a very appreciated plus..
Thanks
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+1, i've been hunting this phone for a month already with no luck, anyone with a good site that ships the phone internationally (to mexico) and unlocked would be awesome.
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+1, i've been hunting this phone for a month already with no luck, anyone with a good site that ships the phone internationally (to mexico) and unlocked would be awesome.
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So, have you been checking the aforementioned websites all this time?
Negrielectronics wrote me that they can't estimate the backorder time and they invited me to check their website daily. does it mean that the backorder waiting time has been going on for (at least) one month?
Thats right, ive been checking negri almost every day for about a month and they havent re stock it. To bad cuz i really would like yo buy a captivate glide.
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Too bad.
Just to add: rogers.com sells this phone, by the name of Samsung Galaxy S Glide.
Still need to be unlocked, but rogers.com should be more trustworthy than canadagsm.
I also wrote an email to canadagsm, just to ask a couple of questions. Waiting
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canadagsm.ca deals only with unlocked phones. That's great.
Still i don't know if it is a trustworthy supplier or not. Their prices are beaten only by negrielectronics, so they're quite good.
But i don't know if I can trust them. Anyway, they accept Paypal.
I bought mine unlocked from Amazon Wireless, it's being forwarded from the US to the United Arab Emirates with ShopandShip.com.
Well, I ended up buying it on Amazon.
Hope everything will go fine.
I'll give you updates.
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Well, I ended up buying it on Amazon.
Hope everything will go fine.
I'll give you updates.
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you're from the U.S?
if not what did you do to make amazon ship to you outside the US
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you're from the U.S?
if not what did you do to make amazon ship to you outside the US
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I'm from Italy.
I'll have it shipped to an import/export company that is located in Florida. They'll ship it to me.
Their name is consegnato.com and they offer the service for Italy (shipping and enregistering under europen laws).
Well I got the phone, really liking the build quality and performance, which is no different to a Galaxy S II
Now the challenging part, it's asking for a network code. I bought this unlocked and was not expecting this. I've contacted Amazon Wireless, lets see what they say.
I've had the same problems as you guys, www.negrielectronics.com, it's in fact a reliable site, but they are, like you said before, out of stock, www.canadagsm.com, in fact, have the Galaxy S Glide, Unlocked, tried to order, but have some problems, because, like sbiricuda, I've send my phones to a Courrier in Florida, that send the package to Chile, from where my partner picks it up, and bring it to Argentina for me. And, the guys over www.canadagsm.com, told me that they only send to the same address of your PayPal account, so, I just couldn't close the deal.
Ended up buying it to cellularworld2008 on www.ebay.ca.
Amazon Wireless rep. replied, they said I can return the phone for a full refund or call AT&T to get the unlock code. Looks like I'll have to unlock it myself!
Amazon Wireless has now changed "Unlocked" to "Upgrade" when you buy that phone full price.
*sigh*
I bought a Locked phone, so I was aware that I have to unlock it after reception when I did it.
I know that it is annoying but I suggest to get an unlock code from americanunlocker or cellunlocker. It looks cheaper than sending the phone back or calling AT&T from your country. If you do, please share your experience with them!
I've read that the Nokia Lumia 900 is supposed to be $450 unlocked, but does anyone know where I'd have to buy it from to get it for that price? Everywhere I look, they have it listed as $200-300 more than the MSRP. From that, I'm assuming that by "unlocked," they really meant "off-contract," because I'm pretty sure AT&T is selling it for either $450, but they'll definitely keep you locked in to their service.
I figured if anyone knows, it'll be the fantastic folks of XDA. If I have to, I'll just buy the AT&T version, but Paul Thurrott from www.winsupersite.com told me that unlocked, unbranded phones are supposed to get updates directly from Microsoft, so if possible, I want to buy it completely unlocked.
I'm currently aiming to buy it from Expansys, but they don't have a price listed yet. I've heard good things about Expansys, but if they have it ridiculously marked up, do you guys think Microsoft Stores will be selling unbranded versions? I'd bet anything they'll sell for the $450 that was announced.
EDIT: Also! Do I need a new SIM to use 4G, or can I just cut my current SIM down to size and activate 4G on the AT&T site?
I've heard from others it will eventually show up on the MS store unlocked/unbranded. No idea when though.
I'm also looking for the same thing except in Canada it's a bit of a tougher find a place that ships here. So far, like you said they are all a few hundred more. Def not worth the price just for unbranding.
If MS is going to sell 900 the same way as 800 its going to be a pain. Right now you can only buy 800 as a part of the bundle. Those extras are nice but I really want the phone only.
I think a price of $450, unlocked, is not correct. No commitment, yes. Unlocked, no...not at least until the rest of the world gets it.
AT&T has an exclusive window. I believe the iPad launch ate into that window. You should be able to see more launches, and more variants near the end of April , into May. There is even speculation that T-Mobile will see the 900 sometime after June.
But unlocked , no commit, for $450. Not thinking so....yet.
Thanks for the input, guys. I'm not buying the phone until April 30th anyway, so hopefully by then, the unlocked models will be available.
On a side note, I just went in to an AT&T store and they let me play with a Cyan Lumia 900, it feels soooo awesome. Only issue I had with the Cyan is that the SIM door is black, not Cyan.
Also, they answered my question about the 4G SIM, I need to get a new SIM with 4G.
450 price is no contract but not unlocked. It will still be locked to AT&T, but you get unlock code from eBay. And Microsoft store is not going to sell them unlocked in the future as well. The only reason they are selling the 800 unlocked is because it is not available thru any carriers in the US. They won't go against the US carriers and sell them unlocked in the US.
If you want unlocked out of the box check out websites like negrielectronics.com or expansys-usa.com.
I'm looking at Expansys, but the reason I want an unlocked phone isn't to use it on another carrier, I'm perfectly happy using it on AT&T. I want it unlocked because unlocked phones get updates directly from Microsoft.
Although, have you tried the unlock code form eBay thing? That sounds interesting, I wonder if it would work the way I want it to...
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I'm looking at Expansys, but the reason I want an unlocked phone isn't to use it on another carrier, I'm perfectly happy using it on AT&T. I want it unlocked because unlocked phones get updates directly from Microsoft.
Although, have you tried the unlock code form eBay thing? That sounds interesting, I wonder if it would work the way I want it to...
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The phones with AT&T branding doesn't get updates directly from Microsoft even if they are unlocked. What you are looking is for unbranded Lumia 900 which is not available now. The only version available on April 8th is the AT&T branded version and even websites like NegriElectronic and expansys are selling the AT&T ones but with sim unlocked.
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The phones with AT&T branding doesn't get updates directly from Microsoft even if they are unlocked. What you are looking is for unbranded Lumia 900 which is not available now. The only version available on April 8th is the AT&T branded version and even websites like NegriElectronic and expansys are selling the AT&T ones but with sim unlocked.
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Thanks, that answers my question. Any idea when the international launch is? If it's not far off it might be worth waiting...I think the Rogers version is launching on the 8th as well, so maybe it is the 8th worldwide, with a US exclusive for AT&T, not worldwide.
Can someone explain early termination to me? Because surely I'm missing something here. Att charge 350 for cancelling early, so if I get the phone for free and sign up for the contract, then immediately cancell it, will I get the phone for 350?
I believe so, but I'm not sure. You'd have to pay for the first month and the activation fee, probably, and I'm not sure if they'd take the phone back or not. Activation is about $35, I think, and the lowest end plan is probably around $60, so that'd total around $445, plus tax, so you're probably just as well off to buy it off contract.
Ah, that's right. Activation fee and 1 month of service, forgot about those.
revxx14 said:
Thanks, that answers my question. Any idea when the international launch is? If it's not far off it might be worth waiting...I think the Rogers version is launching on the 8th as well, so maybe it is the 8th worldwide, with a US exclusive for AT&T, not worldwide.
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be careful in how you think about this. International release does not necessarily mean unlocked or unbranded. The Rodgers launch may mean a Rodgers bra ded and locked phone. I read that April 22nd is the international launch day, but the unlocked versions won't see a y light until at least May.
I may be wrong, but all I'm really saying is do not assume. Check the branding and locking before you buy.
Well if this is going to be the unlocked/unbranded price in the US, you can count me out: http://www.nstore.it/nokia-lumia-900-con-windows-phone.html
EDIT: That's roughly $800 USD.
revxx14 said:
Well if this is going to be the unlocked/unbranded price in the US, you can count me out: http://www.nstore.it/nokia-lumia-900-con-windows-phone.html
EDIT: That's roughly $800 USD.
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oh I think that price will change within the month. But still, unlocked, unbranded is always more expensive by $150 USD or so...usually. All we can do is wait and see.
alodar1 said:
oh I think that price will change within the month. But still, unlocked, unbranded is always more expensive by $150 USD or so...usually. All we can do is wait and see.
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Yea, but apparently the unbranded one will have HSUPA or whatever it is instead of LTE, so it looks like I'm stuck buying from AT&T. Oh well, XDA is usually good about getting updates out super fast, I'm running 8107 on my Focus, which is supposed to be at 7720.
Even these guys on eBay are nuts.. Selling the L900 for as low as $575 PLUS $50 shipping or as high as $800. Do they not know this phone is going off contract for $450??
I was willing to pay an extra $50 over the MSRP but not $150-$175..
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Yea, but apparently the unbranded one will have HSUPA or whatever it is instead of LTE, so it looks like I'm stuck buying from AT&T. Oh well, XDA is usually good about getting updates out super fast, I'm running 8107 on my Focus, which is supposed to be at 7720.
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Thats called " cake and eat it too"
If you wait a few weeks, you should see a difference. As long as AT&T is the only one selling anything, premium pricess will occur. By the end of the month, the unlocked versions will hit the market. Amazon and other sites will get it, and competition takes over. If you want it now, you pay, no pay= want it later.
Amazon is now selling ATT version for $499 (back ordered). So that is not unlocked right? If it's not unlocked, how hard is to get it unlocked?
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Amazon is now selling ATT version for $499 (back ordered). So that is not unlocked right? If it's not unlocked, how hard is to get it unlocked?
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No its not unlocked. Amazon might sell the unlocked versions, but they are pretty good about clearly lableing it as unlocked. Of course, you would notice right off by the higher price.
I'm looking over in different threads talking about defects in the phone and what not. I'm not usually superstitious, but without fail I've had to replace every smartphone I've ever owned at least once. (iPhone 3GS went twice, Evo went 5 times, MyTouch went once, Amaze went once, Sensation went twice, One S went once, would have gone back again but T-Mobile let me out of my contract and I sent it back) I should note that every time I've listed was for defects. My friends can't believe my track record with smartphones... but I love my phones all the same. I especially enjoy my HTC phones.
So to make a long story short (too late) I'm considering the One X because I have to switch back to AT&T after a long hiatus. Sadly no choice in this as its for work. I have the choice of getting a One X International edition from EBay, Craigslist or the marketplace here and have my 32gb of storage, Tegra 3 for gaming and an unlockable bootloader, but must contend with the possible absence of enforceable warranty since it IS imported...
OR
I can swallow my pride as an IT guy... and go for the local varient.
With its only 16gb of storage (only 10 really useable in my experience with the Amaze).
With its S4 chip (nice, but I do like me some Tegra 3 exclusives.......)
And its Warranty that I can go to one of several local corp stores and have enforced. Our local stores are actually pretty decent.
I don't want to have to own several devices to get the experience I want. I really want to go with the International version for the gaming library open to the Tegra 3, such as Dark Meadow. I know some games end up getting ports or hacks to allow play on other devices... but I like things to "just work" sometimes without too much hassle. I have to deal with hassle day in and day out with my job, I like my devices to be toys once I get home, not more work.
So... yeah. Thoughts?
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but must contend with the possible absence of enforceable warranty since it IS imported...
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You can buy it from an authorized dealer in the UK and it comes with a two-year warranty. I just sent an SGS2 to the UK for repair and Samsung paid to ship it to them and I had to pay 10GBP to have it shipped back. I got my One X from Handtec and it arrived overnight via FedEx. If you buy from Negri or Expansys-USA you can send it to them if it needs repair and they ship it to their overseas affiliates who deal with HTC locally. It takes a lot longer though because of all the hand-offs. SquareTrade also covers grey market phones and if you Google it they're having a 30% off deal for Mother's Day. Buying from Handtec or Clove in the UK assures you'll get a UK (EU) handset. Negri and Expansys have been shipping Malaysian units. Also with the international version you'll get updates directly from HTC, a lot of features AT&T removed (HTC apps, CloudDrive integration), and none of AT&T's crapware. It doesn't matter if you're rooting and ROM'ing. I can't use use non-standard ROMs because I travel overseas a lot so I always get my phones from the UK.
Is there a hardware or software or build quality difference between the Malaysian and EU handsets?
The main reason I'm wondering is because VAT seems so high. I mean, I go from a phone that's just over $600 to a phone thats well over $700... That extra $100 is not appetizing at all really.
I don't do a lot of traveling, I just prefer the international version of this phone to the AT&T variant because it feels like AT&T gave us a worse phone for the same price...
I do tend to root and rom, but having the stock rom without clutter gives me more time to enjoy the phone without having to replace anything.
In the end though I guess what I need to know on the international front is if there is a real difference between the Asian and European One X International or if its just the rom that comes on it (which I guess I can just flash the european rom if its just a software thing)
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Just checked Handtec and VAT doesn't apply since its being shipped outside the UK via FedEx. At least not according ot everything from before I press "buy"
Shipping does raise it to 630 though compared ot the 609 + free shipping...
So I guess it still stands with the Malaysian vs EU phone differences.
kamui957 said:
Is there a hardware or software or build quality difference between the Malaysian and EU handsets?
The main reason I'm wondering is because VAT seems so high. I mean, I go from a phone that's just over $600 to a phone thats well over $700... That extra $100 is not appetizing at all really.
I don't do a lot of traveling, I just prefer the international version of this phone to the AT&T variant because it feels like AT&T gave us a worse phone for the same price...
I do tend to root and rom, but having the stock rom without clutter gives me more time to enjoy the phone without having to replace anything.
In the end though I guess what I need to know on the international front is if there is a real difference between the Asian and European One X International or if its just the rom that comes on it (which I guess I can just flash the european rom if its just a software thing)
Edit:
Just checked Handtec and VAT doesn't apply since its being shipped outside the UK via FedEx. At least not according ot everything from before I press "buy"
Shipping does raise it to 630 though compared ot the 609 + free shipping...
So I guess it still stands with the Malaysian vs EU phone differences.
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I don't think there are any physical differences; they're all built in the same place. If you're not going to root and replace the ROM, get the UK phone. The Asian phones have Asian english where the UK phones have UK english. Neither have U.S. english out of the box.
BarryH_GEG said:
I don't think there are any physical differences; they're all built in the same place. If you're not going to root and replace the ROM, get the UK phone. The Asian phones have Asian english where the UK phones have UK english. Neither have U.S. english out of the box.
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Would you say the UK phone would be easier to get warranty serviced than an asian one through Expansys?
As for the english, I will be rooting and romming eventually, but I could live with UK english easier than Asian english...