System Image in TWRP, Root, SuperSU - Moto Z2 Force Questions & Answers

Ok, long time Moto guy and member. Broke my Moto X Pure, had to rock a G4 for a bit. Couldn't pass up the $160 deal. So, figured TWRP out. Backed up data. But couldn't get the "System Image" to backup? Haven't looked into the recovery log, but is this normal? And how does the "system image" differ from "system"? Besides size? Is it both A and B it's backing up? I'm kinda new to the A/B partition deal. And, I'm not a huge madjisk guy. Does the last SuperSU or the SR5 ver work ok? Thanks for any input, much appreciated. Have tried to read up a bit but am stressed for time. Just don't want to screw it up already! :silly:
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Nvidia Experience 5.2 ROM

I have not been able to update my shield tv 2015 16gb device to 5.2.
The device is rooted with latest 3.1.1 TWRP recovery. Each time I select upgrade with the stock settings it will reboot into recovery and won't update.
Does anyone have a link to the latest ROM or know where Nvidia stores the OTA file? I would rather flash the image my self if I can find get the ROM.
I'm sure this we'll help a few other people I can't be the only one with this issue. Need the 5.2 image not the 5.0.2 which is the previous version of Shield experience update.
you should not flash TWRP to your device reflash original recovery and remove su then try update again
BTDTGTTS Simply unrooting, and replacing TWRP with a Stock Recovery. Will not sadly be enough. The only way out is to Factory Reset. Which, in my case (Pro Owner), means a Two Hours of down time. While the Shield is busy away at nuking the /data Partition. Only after that will you be fully unrooted. Of course if you are using TWRP as your Recovery, you WILL have to replace it with a Stock Recovery for your Update to work.
It's a real PItA for just some extra (Non-working) Plex Channels, and making the needed edits to settings.db to prevent it from kicking iPlayer off after each Power Cycle / IP Address reset. (Though that last one... Has more legs on it then just the Plex Channels.)
Ichijoe said:
BTDTGTTS Simply unrooting, and replacing TWRP with a Stock Recovery. Will not sadly be enough. The only way out is to Factory Reset. Which, in my case (Pro Owner), means a Two Hours of down time. While the Shield is busy away at nuking the /data Partition. Only after that will you be fully unrooted. Of course if you are using TWRP as your Recovery, you WILL have to replace it with a Stock Recovery for your Update to work.
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i didnt know that :good:
but if he has TWRP installed couldnt he format data pation from TWRP thus saving hours of thumb twiddling
Ichijoe said:
BTDTGTTS Simply unrooting, and replacing TWRP with a Stock Recovery. Will not sadly be enough. The only way out is to Factory Reset. Which, in my case (Pro Owner), means a Two Hours of down time. While the Shield is busy away at nuking the /data Partition. Only after that will you be fully unrooted. Of course if you are using TWRP as your Recovery, you WILL have to replace it with a Stock Recovery for your Update to work.
It's a real PItA for just some extra (Non-working) Plex Channels, and making the needed edits to settings.db to prevent it from kicking iPlayer off after each Power Cycle / IP Address reset. (Though that last one... Has more legs on it then just the Plex Channels.)
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Obviously thats a much longer and worse route.
afgok said:
you should not flash TWRP to your device reflash original recovery and remove su then try update again
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I have upgraded the shield tv many times with OTA updates. Shouldn't need to be stock just to do this. So your saying root has more restrictions....
TWRP is much better than stock recovery, now it might not be finding the OTA update when it gets pushed to recovery.
The other option I mentioned in the original post was for manually selecting the OTA image with TWRP and flashing.
Does anyone one know where the temp folder is for OTA files or a direct link online?
On another thread looks like others are having this same issue with only this version 5.2.. ill just wait for the Dev Images to show up hopefully soon.
I unrooted but still got the same issue, it wont install. But I also have another issue, i can't restore my 2015 shield 16gb by using official recovery rom and official tutorials. It consistently fails to flash system.img and vendor.img by saying that the data is too large. The only way I got my system back was by flashing this file https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/general/shield-tv-2015-ota-5-1-feb-17-zip-file-t3559062 through twrp
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Obviously thats a much longer and worse route.
I have upgraded the shield tv many times with OTA updates. Shouldn't need to be stock just to do this. So your saying root has more restrictions....
TWRP is much better than stock recovery, now it might not be finding the OTA update when it gets pushed to recovery.
The other option I mentioned in the original post was for manually selecting the OTA image with TWRP and flashing.
Does anyone one know where the temp folder is for OTA files or a direct link online?
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Again TWRP can not be used to flash an OTA Update. I mean sure feel free to knock yourself out. But, in the end it will fail. (Error 7 IIRC), As it is it seems that it will only work on a stock Recovery, and not on TWRP. I mean if it were this easy, everyone would be doing it. And again if the Update were working over TWRP, we wouldn't have a constant update loop. (e.g. Download Update, restart Shield, wait forever for the Shield to try (and, fail!) at applying said Update, rebooting, and wash rinse, repeat).
BTW: I never said that my way* was the 'best' way, or indeed the 'only' way. Its just the only way I know of to Nuke it from orbit all the time, everytime. And, yes it is a huge PITA. If you count a /system root as being more restrictive. In the case of Netflix making active noises about blocking rooted Devices. Then yes slowly I would say that rooting has more restrictions than stock.
*My way being to Factory wipe the Shield (Pro) which in the case of the Pro most likely means a Two plus Hours of dead time. I would assume it's much MUCH quicker for our 16GB eMMC Cousins though. But, not having One, I'm unable to confirm it.
P.s. You have also mentioned the fact that you have managed to update your rooted Shield TV on multiple occasions. Would you care to share this info with us? I for One would love to know how to do this. As having to Factory Reset the Device is a real time waster. Because after the reset, comes the rebuild. And, thats an even bigger *****.
Ichijoe said:
Again TWRP can not be used to flash an OTA Update. I mean sure feel free to knock yourself out. But, in the end it will fail. (Error 7 IIRC), As it is it seems that it will only work on a stock Recovery, and not on TWRP. I mean if it were this easy, everyone would be doing it. And again if the Update were working over TWRP, we wouldn't have a constant update loop. (e.g. Download Update, restart Shield, wait forever for the Shield to try (and, fail!) at applying said Update, rebooting, and wash rinse, repeat).
BTW: I never said that my way* was the 'best' way, or indeed the 'only' way. Its just the only way I know of to Nuke it from orbit all the time, everytime. And, yes it is a huge PITA. If you count a /system root as being more restrictive. In the case of Netflix making active noises about blocking rooted Devices. Then yes slowly I would say that rooting has more restrictions than stock.
*My way being to Factory wipe the Shield (Pro) which in the case of the Pro most likely means a Two plus Hours of dead time. I would assume it's much MUCH quicker for our 16GB eMMC Cousins though. But, not having One, I'm unable to confirm it.
P.s. You have also mentioned the fact that you have managed to update your rooted Shield TV on multiple occasions. Would you care to share this info with us? I for One would love to know how to do this. As having to Factory Reset the Device is a real time waster. Because after the reset, comes the rebuild. And, thats an even bigger *****.
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Dirty flashing a dev image is they way I have managed to update my shield but right now the dev images are not updated, still the 5.1.0
If you're rooted, the right answer is to wait for Nvidia to release the 5.2 image.
If you absolutely need 5.2 right now for some reason, several people said that doing a factory restore worked. Just unrooting and restoring stock recovery won't do it, you need to do a full restore.
Diehardshorty said:
Dirty flashing a dev image is they way I have managed to update my shield but right now the dev images are not updated, still the 5.1.0
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The Dev images are quite a bit different, and are also on an entirely different timeline to either the Preview, (Which I'm on), or the most current version.
But, yeah I could see how those would work. Alas mores the pitty that the rooted asspects of those Dev Images, only go as far as ADB, and not say a full /system wide root. Than again... It's probably for the best that way.
But, that doesn't really change the answer if you want / need to update (From root), than you are going to have to bite the big One, and run a Factory Reset. Which again, on the Pro, means a 2h+ reformating (zeroing out), of the /data Partition.
16gb version doesn't take as long to format but I've always remember flashing SuperSU.zip after ROM just incase. Short response for now at work.
Diehardshorty said:
The other option I mentioned in the original post was for manually selecting the OTA image with TWRP and flashing.
Does anyone one know where the temp folder is for OTA files or a direct link online?
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Use to be here:
/data/data/com.nvidia.ota/app_download
You obviously need root to reach that folder...
If i have time i will upload later this small OTA update to MEGA.
I uploaded the 5.2 small update OTA for Shield TV 2015 (NON-PRO):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/general/shield-tv-2015-small-update-ota-5-2-t3621886
sammarbella said:
I uploaded the 5.2 small update OTA for Shield TV 2015 (NON-PRO):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/general/shield-tv-2015-small-update-ota-5-2-t3621886
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Sweet thanks I'll give that a try from the sounds of it it might not work but I'll give a shot after work. Thanks
No luck flashing my own OTA zip I took it out of data\data\com.nvidia.ota flashed it with TWRT 3.1.1.
I might end up doing the factory restore then updating and root. Wouldn't mind a new clean OS
Diehardshorty said:
No luck flashing my own OTA zip I took it out of data\data\com.nvidia.ota flashed it with TWRT 3.1.1.
I might end up doing the factory restore then updating and root. Wouldn't mind a new clean OS
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Check out https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/general/how-to-update-ota-5-2-2017-update-t3622540 just posted a guide on how to update
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Check out https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/general/how-to-update-ota-5-2-2017-update-t3622540 just posted a guide on how to update
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Only difference there is that your using flashfire instead of TWRP. I can't see how that may work but worth a shot.
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Only difference there is that your using flashfire instead of TWRP. I can't see how that may work but worth a shot.
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Just make sure you flash the right update, and it's because the ota provided by the devs don't support ota due to device fingerprint issues along with partition finding stuff found inside the meta-inf, the reason you can't sideload the room via stock is because there is a check for modified system tables. Granted you could take out that comment and rezip it then it will fail for zip verification, after that I had tried to sign the package to regain that but then it failed due to it only signed the packages not the entire system. Long story short it's super duper picky and ChainFire made one that pleases all of the variables or ignores then.
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Just make sure you flash the right update, and it's because the ota provided by the devs don't support ota due to device fingerprint issues along with partition finding stuff found inside the meta-inf, the reason you can't sideload the room via stock is because there is a check for modified system tables. Granted you could take out that comment and rezip it then it will fail for zip verification, after that I had tried to sign the package to regain that but then it failed due to it only signed the packages not the entire system. Long story short it's super duper picky and ChainFire made one that pleases all of the variables or ignores then.
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Ahhhhh that missing point for "error 7".
So the new app bypass that problem!
Thanks for posting it. :good:

Help upgrading from 14.1 to 15.1 - stuck at reboot

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We have a Oneplus3 with root and LineageOS 14.1. Downloaded the LineageOS 15.1 and Googleapps and placed them on the root of the SD card. Turned off the phone, rebooted into TWRP, performed a backup and tried to Install the 15.1. It said something to the effect that we didn't have a Oneplus3 and didn't install. The error which is shown when trying to install the 15.1 is "E3004. This package is for device: OnePlus3, oneplus3, OnePlus3T, oneplus3t; this device is ."
Tried installing the backup but when it finishes "installing" and we reboot all we get is the "Your device is unlocked..." screen and then the "POWERED BY android" screen. It doesn't go beyond this screen.
What to do?
Have a great afternoon!
Well, don't know if we have success or not... i applied a solution from this forum to "boot into recovery and select 'fix contents' and reboot".
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/stuck-logo-flashing-rom-t3422304
i now have advanced to the blue curve with the moving circle, but it's been like this for some 10 minutes... - lol.
Have a great evening!
frazelle09 said:
Well, don't know if we have success or not... i applied a solution from this forum to "boot into recovery and select 'fix contents' and reboot".
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/stuck-logo-flashing-rom-t3422304
i now have advanced to the blue curve with the moving circle, but it's been like this for some 10 minutes... - lol.
Have a great evening!
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Which version of TWRP do you have? Try eng.stk's (blu_spark)
tnsmani - i really appreciate your posting! i was under the impression that these threads were a little more "active" - lol. i'm at TWRP 9.8 and it's already the Blue spark...
i finally decided to bite the bullet and reinstall 14.1 from scratch since i couldn't get my backup to reinstall - grrr. So, with the help of ADB and my trusty PCLinuxOS the phone's back and running. Very disappointed my backup didn't work i have used it before - with a different backup - and didn't have any problems at all. i wonder what secret, unknown, black magic, undocumented step(s) i missed when i created it. It's not like it comes with a button you get to press after you create it which says: To Test Your Backup.
Again, thanks for offering to help. It seems like there are fewer of you around these days. And
have a wonderful day!
frazelle09 said:
tnsmani - i really appreciate your posting! i was under the impression that these threads were a little more "active" - lol. i'm at TWRP 9.8 and it's already the Blue spark...
i finally decided to bite the bullet and reinstall 14.1 from scratch since i couldn't get my backup to reinstall - grrr. So, with the help of ADB and my trusty PCLinuxOS the phone's back and running. Very disappointed my backup didn't work i have used it before - with a different backup - and didn't have any problems at all. i wonder what secret, unknown, black magic, undocumented step(s) i missed when i created it. It's not like it comes with a button you get to press after you create it which says: To Test Your Backup.
Again, thanks for offering to help. It seems like there are fewer of you around these days. And
have a wonderful day!
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If your phone doesn't boot. Just wipe boot and system and flash the rom again or your old rom and it should work 90% of the time. These two partitions get overwrited when flashing a rom.
i tried doing that several times, but those must have been the other 10%...
Have a super evening!
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i tried doing that several times, but those must have been the other 10%...Have a super evening!
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Please, tell us how did you solved your issue.
(You wrote"solve" in thé OP)
I extract the ROM and go to meta-inf/com/Google/android/ updater script and delete from first line start as assert to before ui print and save and compress and flash with out any problem.
Because all the roms had this problem even my Redmi note 4x, mi max2 had this same "E3004. This package is for device
problem in custom roms for past few months.
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I extract the ROM and go to meta-inf/com/Google/android/ updater script and delete from first line start as assert to before ui print and save and compress and flash with out any problem.
Because all the roms had this problem even my Redmi note 4x, mi max2 had this same "E3004. This package is for device
problem in custom roms for past few months.
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I have been using Vertex and PureFusion Nougat before without any issues. So all the ROMs (if at all any) don't have this issue. Plus everyone is not tech savvy and extracting, deleting and repacking are all a little above the average user.
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tnsmani - i really appreciate your posting! i was under the impression that these threads were a little more "active" - lol. i'm at TWRP 9.8 and it's already the Blue spark...
i finally decided to bite the bullet and reinstall 14.1 from scratch since i couldn't get my backup to reinstall - grrr. So, with the help of ADB and my trusty PCLinuxOS the phone's back and running. Very disappointed my backup didn't work i have used it before - with a different backup - and didn't have any problems at all. i wonder what secret, unknown, black magic, undocumented step(s) i missed when i created it. It's not like it comes with a button you get to press after you create it which says: To Test Your Backup.
Again, thanks for offering to help. It seems like there are fewer of you around these days. And
have a wonderful day!
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eng.stk's TWRP latest version is 8.61. I don't know where you got 9.8 and it is probably the culprit.
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Please, tell us how did you solved your issue.
(You wrote"solve" in thé OP)
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Please see the fourth post of this thread.
Have a great morning and a beautiful day in Paris!
eng.stk's TWRP latest version is 8.61. I don't know where you got 9.8 and it is probably the culprit.
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You are correct. My version is 9.8 - my bad. Who knows why it didn't work. Maybe it would be a good idea for me to wait till the next version before i try again. i don't know if you saw it or not, but i also mentioned that my Backup (that i made through TWRP) before trying to upgrade did not work, either. i wouldn't have been so freaked out if it had since i've had to use them before, but this time it wouldn't reinstall. i'm wondering if i missed some vital, hidden, secret sign or step before making the backup - deleting the /temp folder, upgrading to Windoze 11 - something. There seems like there's always - something - lol.
Have a super day! It looks like threads get more love after the issue has been solved than when the OP is in the process of trying to figure out what's happening... but it could just be me and my sample methodology - lol.

XT1710-01 Root Guide?

New to the Moto Z2 play, moved to this from a Z2 force on Verizon after the shattershield started peeling. Anyway, there seems to be a lot of conflicting information here, and i'm struggling to actually nail down the process for root. My bootloader is already unlocked, however between several different versions of TWRP, Retus based phones vs Albus, ability to unroot and update if the system is modified, rooting with or without disabling encryption, countless different variants with different procedures, etc. i'm a little overwhelmed. Can anyone point me in the right direction of rooting my device (hopefully) WITHOUT losing all my data?
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New to the Moto Z2 play, moved to this from a Z2 force on Verizon after the shattershield started peeling. Anyway, there seems to be a lot of conflicting information here, and i'm struggling to actually nail down the process for root. My bootloader is already unlocked, however between several different versions of TWRP, Retus based phones vs Albus, ability to unroot and update if the system is modified, rooting with or without disabling encryption, countless different variants with different procedures, etc. i'm a little overwhelmed. Can anyone point me in the right direction of rooting my device (hopefully) WITHOUT losing all my data?
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I'm about to buy the unlocked Moto Z2 Play from the Moto site (64GB variant... not sure of the model number) but have you checked out these threads?...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75098899&postcount=40
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/how-to/guide-resource-help-thread-t3627615/page3
allstar21369 said:
I'm about to buy the unlocked Moto Z2 Play from the Moto site (64GB variant... not sure of the model number) but have you checked out these threads?...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75098899&postcount=40
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/how-to/guide-resource-help-thread-t3627615/page3
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I did but they involve disabling encryption, which means having to wipe data everytime an update rolls around.
For those that see this in the future, I followed this guide, but used Magisk 13.3 and have working root, without having to wipe my data (bootloader already unlocked) https://gist.github.com/eexit/e6d5fc0984e1c7f25376d3dafa819792
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I did but they involve disabling encryption, which means having to wipe data everytime an update rolls around.
For those that see this in the future, I followed this guide, but used Magisk 13.3 and have working root, without having to wipe my data (bootloader already unlocked) https://gist.github.com/eexit/e6d5fc0984e1c7f25376d3dafa819792
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I have a rooted XT1710-01, also. If you are going to install Xposed and Gravity Box, I recommend not updating Magisk, above v14. After v15 and now v16, I have had issues with Automate It app and Tasker rules not working, until I uninstalled Xposed.
Downgrading Magisk versions requires flashing your stock ROM and basically starting over.
Motorola has not posted firmware for this model.
StATicxTW0T said:
I did but they involve disabling encryption, which means having to wipe data everytime an update rolls around.
For those that see this in the future, I followed this guide, but used Magisk 13.3 and have working root, without having to wipe my data (bootloader already unlocked) https://gist.github.com/eexit/e6d5fc0984e1c7f25376d3dafa819792
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So glad to see someone have it working and with a clear guide. I'm going to buy the phone this week.
StATicxTW0T said:
I did but they involve disabling encryption, which means having to wipe data everytime an update rolls around.
For those that see this in the future, I followed this guide, but used Magisk 13.3 and have working root, without having to wipe my data (bootloader already unlocked) https://gist.github.com/eexit/e6d5fc0984e1c7f25376d3dafa819792
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I just wanted to let everyone know that the guide posted in that post worked for me perfectly. I had an XT1710-01 that I had unlocked the bootloader before but stopped there. Then I finally wanted to root it, and ran into everything the OP ran into - just so many different guides and versions of TWRP/Magisk not working with the Z2 Play, it was hard to nail down the exact versions of everything I needed and make sure I didn't flash an incompatible version or something. I found that same guide a few days ago as well but never did it until today, and can confirm it works. I already had my bootloader unlocked and just did the rooting portion and all my data was saved (but I wasn't too worried about my data honestly, it's all backed up anyway).
And a special thanks to OP for coming back and posting his solution. Nothing is more frustrating than searching for a problem online, finding a hit on your exact problem in a thread that was posted years ago, and then no solution is ever posted in that thread. So good job. :good:
Johmama said:
I just wanted to let everyone know that the guide posted in that post worked for me perfectly. I had an XT1710-01 that I had unlocked the bootloader before but stopped there. Then I finally wanted to root it, and ran into everything the OP ran into - just so many different guides and versions of TWRP/Magisk not working with the Z2 Play, it was hard to nail down the exact versions of everything I needed and make sure I didn't flash an incompatible version or something. I found that same guide a few days ago as well but never did it until today, and can confirm it works. I already had my bootloader unlocked and just did the rooting portion and all my data was saved (but I wasn't too worried about my data honestly, it's all backed up anyway).
And a special thanks to OP for coming back and posting his solution. Nothing is more frustrating than searching for a problem online, finding a hit on your exact problem in a thread that was posted years ago, and then no solution is ever posted in that thread. So good job. :good:
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I just received my Z2 Play, unlocked the bootloader, and am about to flash the custom TWRP (albus_twrp.img) posted in the guide linked above... but the guide never says to "flash" TWRP, it just says to "boot" with TWRP and also "Enter your FBE password: it must work! (turn off screen and turn it back on if not responsive)"...
I'm not 100% sure what to do here. Should I boot TWRP first, do a full backup and then flash TWRP? I don't want to wipe it.
And what is this FBE (File-Based Encryption) password? I've never set one and don't want everything encrypted.
allstar21369 said:
I just received my Z2 Play, unlocked the bootloader, and am about to flash the custom TWRP (albus_twrp.img) posted in the guide linked above... but the guide never says to "flash" TWRP, it just says to "boot" with TWRP and also "Enter your FBE password: it must work! (turn off screen and turn it back on if not responsive)"...
I'm not 100% sure what to do here. Should I boot TWRP first, do a full backup and then flash TWRP? I don't want to wipe it.
And what is this FBE (File-Based Encryption) password? I've never set one and don't want everything encrypted.
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I didn't flash TWRP on my phone. I think I tried it once and it failed for some reason, so I just followed the guide of booting into TWRP, backing up my phone, and pulling the backup. Should be okay for what I need, in case of a failure I will have a backup somewhere and can recover the device. But yes, I'd at least boot into TWRP, then backup your device like in that guide so you have a backup. Flashing it is up to you, I've always flashed a custom recovery but on this phone I'm keeping the original recovery so I can get an OTA. On my Nexus devices I don't care about OTA because I just flash ROMs all the time so it's no big deal.
The FBE password as far as I can tell is the 4 or 5 digit PIN number you are asked to input upon a fresh wipe of your device to set as a password. I have my phone set up to use my fingerprint to unlock the phone, and if that fails it will ask for my PIN, which is the same as the FBE of mine. I used that same number in TWRP when it asks for a password to unencrypt the data and it worked. As far as turning off encryption, I'm not sure if there's a way to do that. There could be, but to turn it off, it wipes your data as a security measure.
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so I just followed the guide of booting into TWRP, backing up my phone, and pulling the backup. Should be okay for what I need, in case of a failure I will have a backup somewhere and can recover the device. But yes, I'd at least boot into TWRP, then backup your device like in that guide so you have a backup.
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Yeah, I can't backup my ROM most likely because I don't have an FBE password. When I go to backup my ROM in TWRP it fails.
Johmama said:
The FBE password as far as I can tell is the 4 or 5 digit PIN number you are asked to input upon a fresh wipe of your device to set as a password. I have my phone set up to use my fingerprint to unlock the phone, and if that fails it will ask for my PIN, which is the same as the FBE of mine. I used that same number in TWRP when it asks for a password to unencrypt the data and it worked.
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I tried entering my unlock code and the pin I created but neither worked for my FBE password. I don't ever remember being asked to enter a password when setting up my device. I suppose this means I'll have to wipe data and then setup an FBE password.
allstar21369 said:
I tried entering my unlock code and the pin I created but neither worked for my FBE password. I don't ever remember being asked to enter a password when setting up my device. I suppose this means I'll have to wipe data and then setup an FBE password.
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If it helps at all, the first time I tried it also didn't work for me and I did end up wiping my phone for other reasons before I came back and tried that guide again and it worked. I thought I set up the PIN they're talking about the first time around but I did have troubles in TWRP before the first wipe of my data. I would just boot up the phone regularly, plug it in to your computer, and try to grab any files you need and wipe it. I know that isn't the answer you're looking for, but it's all I can give I guess. Once you reset, hopefully they'll prompt you to make a PIN during the setup process and that should be the FBE password. Then follow the guide. I hope you get it man.
Oh, and to a note to you and everyone reading this, I booted to TWRP 3.2.1-0-albus and Magisk-v14.0. Dunno if it's just rumors or not but I heard the newer versions of Magisk might not work with the Z2 Play past version 14. Dunno if that's true but v14.0 worked for me.
Johmama said:
If it helps at all, the first time I tried it also didn't work for me and I did end up wiping my phone for other reasons before I came back and tried that guide again and it worked. I thought I set up the PIN they're talking about the first time around but I did have troubles in TWRP before the first wipe of my data. I would just boot up the phone regularly, plug it in to your computer, and try to grab any files you need and wipe it. I know that isn't the answer you're looking for, but it's all I can give I guess. Once you reset, hopefully they'll prompt you to make a PIN during the setup process and that should be the FBE password. Then follow the guide. I hope you get it man.
Oh, and to a note to you and everyone reading this, I booted to TWRP 3.2.1-0-albus and Magisk-v14.0. Dunno if it's just rumors or not but I heard the newer versions of Magisk might not work with the Z2 Play past version 14. Dunno if that's true but v14.0 worked for me.
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Okay. I just wiped and re-set up everything and still no FBE password was asked for OR works when I go into TWRP. I'm using TWRP 3.1.1-0... I suppose I'll try it all again using TWRP 3.2.1-0-albus after deleting data.
*Edit: I did exactly what I just said I was doing booted TWRP 3.2.1-0-albus instead of 3.1.1-0 and when I it booted up and asked me for a decryption password I entered the pin I set up previously and it has been stuck at the "Mount, Trying Decryption" screen for a long time... but it's not frozen. It says "Updating partition details... ...done
Unable to mount storage
Full SELinux support is present.
Data successfully decrypted, new block device: '/dev
/block/dm-0'
Updating partition details...
...done"
And the progress bar/thing at the bottom is still animated like it's working... no forward or back buttons or anything and turning off/on the screen hasn't done anything... not really sure what to do here... I don't want to unplug it and brick my phone or force it off...
*Edit 2:
I now have it all sorted out.
TWRP never finished trying to decrypt data so I long pressed the power button and eventually went here -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/development/twrp-moto-z2-play-t3729531 , downloaded "twrp_albus_3.1.2_r18_64.img" and in adb used the command:
fastboot boot twrp_albus_3.1.2_r18_64.img
This TWRP looks a bit different than all of the others but it let me boot up and use my recently created PIN code to actually decrypt my data and make a full backup. After that I just installed Magisk (the latest one, 16.4) as indicated in this guide -> https://gist.github.com/eexit/e6d5fc0984e1c7f25376d3dafa819792 and everything is fine. I never even flashed TWRP, just booted it.
Just curious what you guys have done about getting OTA updates since you've rooted and installed Magisk.
Have @allstar21369 or @pizza_pablo had the chance to figure out the update process?
I'm currently trying to navigate the Magisk uninstall --> OTA update process and could use some insight if either of you guys have any to share.
joefuf said:
Just curious what you guys have done about getting OTA updates since you've rooted and installed Magisk.
Have @allstar21369 or @pizza_pablo had the chance to figure out the update process?
I'm currently trying to navigate the Magisk uninstall --> OTA update process and could use some insight if either of you guys have any to share.
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I didn't want updates, especially the oreo "upgrade".
pizza_pablo said:
I didn't want updates, especially the oreo "upgrade".
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Hmm, didn't even think about just sticking on what works... Did Oreo give people some issues?
Since this was Day 1 with the new phone, I was just trying to get up to speed and probably sit on one version until I had compatibility issues with something, but everything just works.
joefuf said:
Hmm, didn't even think about just sticking on what works... Did Oreo give people some issues?
Since this was Day 1 with the new phone, I was just trying to get up to speed and probably sit on one version until I had compatibility issues with something, but everything just works.
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Oreo hasn't come to the phone, when I decided I didn't want it, mostly because of the white background in the Quick Settings and I didn't want any of the other "improvements".
With this setup, I accept the risks of not having the security updates.
Double - double \_0_/
pizza_pablo said:
Oreo hasn't come to the phone, when I decided I didn't want it, mostly because of the white background in the Quick Settings and I didn't want any of the other "improvements".
With this setup, I accept the risks of not having the security updates.
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I feel exactly the same way. No benefits for me. I don't want the bright white interface and I would never use the "Picture in Picture" (or floating video) feature (and if I did want that there are a couple apps for Nougat that do it).
But If I do decide I want it and give upgrading a shot I'll definitely post it here.
pizza_pablo said:
Oreo hasn't come to the phone, when I decided I didn't want it, mostly because of the white background in the Quick Settings and I didn't want any of the other "improvements".
With this setup, I accept the risks of not having the security updates.
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Yeah, very understandable. It really is superfluous to the general experience.
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I feel exactly the same way. No benefits for me. I don't want the bright white interface and I would never use the "Picture in Picture" (or floating video) feature (and if I did want that there are a couple apps for Nougat that do it).
But If I do decide I want it and give upgrading a shot I'll definitely post it here.
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Thank you sir! Keep me posted. I'm posting everywhere right now to learn the new methods so I know if there ever comes a time. This is my first phone since my Motorola Droid 4. Back then it was one click root, install and run Safestrap apk to get custom recovery, boot into custom recovery and flash zips to your heart's content. I'm sure this will be as "simple" once I learn, but it's pretty daunting in prospect.

Soft Bricked LG G3, trying to get LineageOS on it. (Success!)

I was needing a new phone and saw a Linus Tech Tips video where he took an LG G3 and put LineageOS on it. So I thought I'd try it out for myself following his guidelines at https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1058206-lg-g3-lineageos-tutorial/
I bought an LG G3 D851 (T-Mobile version) off EBay for this. It's my first Android phone (yes, experimenting on my first Android Phone), I've always used Windows phones. This is what I've done to the LG G3 so far:
I reverted back to KitKat. Everything seemed to have gone just fine.
Then I downloaded the the Full Purple Drake Root and ran that after I figured out that .gz files are a compressed file and that can be decompressed. Everything seemed to have worked fine.
Then I downloaded the TWRP app on the phone and tried to backup the recovery via the TWRP app, which I'm not sure if it worked correctly. But anyhow.
Now that I'm writing this I see I missed this step:
number seven: Select the TWRP file we copied over earlier in the app, flash it to recovery, and then reboot to recovery
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I guess I just didn't understand what was meant by flashing it over and has just copied it to the phone's memory which I later wiped.
Well then I went into TWRP recovery and tried to do a recovery backup, which it seemed to do just fine. I rebooted and tried copying it over to the computer, which seems to not have worked. I just have an empty folder on my computer as we speak.
Then back in the TWRP recovery, I selected Wipe>Advanced Wipe, and select Dalvik, Cache, Data, Internal Storage, and System – then swipe to wipe.
Then I downloaded the latest version and nightly of LineageOS zip file and the Opengapps zip file but then had a hard time figuring how to get them to the phone.
I figured out that I could stick them on an SD card and slip it into the LG G3 that I'm working on and could see the files from the TWRP recovery menu.
So I tried to install the LIneageOS zip file several times and it didn't work. I'm guessing it's because I forgot to flash a certain file to TWRP recovery and am not sure how to do that, especially now with the phone only booting into recovery mode with the TWRP menu since it's wiped clean and will just display the LG logo and turn the LED different colors if I try to normal boot the phone.
Well I still want to try to fix the phone and go for LineageOS. I spent nearly all night working on it so I may give it a rest for a few days. But any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Now that I think about it, I didn't do what I mentioned ok #4 above about flashing the TWRP recovery because TWRP recovery was installed with the full Purple Drake root. However, the Linus Tech Tips instructions point to them rooting the phone with the lite version of Purple Drake (root only) and then flashing the newest version of TWRP recovery. So I wonder if my problem has to do with my having the latest version of TWRP recovery on my phone.
Ok. So I think I'm making progress, although that's just a feeling I have since I'm not suite what I'm really doing.
Anyhow the error code was something like "Unknown Error, Error Executing Updater Binary in Zip, Zip is for LG G3 D851, this phone is...(blank)". So I found an article in DroidThunder.com talking about this very problem. It suggested unzipping the rom on my computer and looking for the updater-script file and erasing some lines that apparently only have to do with verification. Then re-zip and retry.
Now I'm getting a "No MD5 file" message followed by an "Error flashing zip" message.
Edit: After reading this I take it I have an older version of TWRP, that is, v2.7.1.0, whereas the newet versio (for this phone?) is apparently 3.3.1-0. That seems to have an effect on this. I wonder if it's possibly to flash a newer version of TWRP onto this bricked phone. Anyhow, I'll have to look into that later. It's time to call it a day.
So recently I've been focusing on these two threads:
[GUIDE] LG G3 D851 Unbrick Qualcomm 9008 Fully Working... Unbrickable D851! by Omar-Avelar
And:
[GUIDE][FIX][DISCUSSION] LG G3 Hard Brick Recovery by l33tlinuxh4x0r
But I can't get either of them to work. I guess the only other thing would be to try to find a ROM, preferably the original KitKat that came with the phone, and hope and pray that I can get TWRP recovery v2.7 to install it.
I have the original as a tot file. But as far as I understand, I need a zip file that's set up for TWRP recovery.
Anyhow, trying to get this phone running hasn't been easy and has made other problems. Now every time I turn on my Surface 3 I have to go through BitLocker authentication. Hopefully turning bcd Test Signing off will stop that. But I'm getting to the point that I'm feeling like giving up.
Well that's it. Last night I found a zip file for the original Marshmallow ROM for my G3. I got it onto the SD card, went into TWRP recovery, saw it install, restarted and...
Now it's hard bricked. I cannot even get into TWRP recovery. The screen won't show a thing. I tried several times to get it into any mode possible, normal boot, TWRP recovery boot, download mode, and that jumping the pins trick, and I can't get it to where I can do something with the phone.
So I'm giving up on all this rooting, custom recoveries and custom ROM stuff. It all seems like a good idea, and I'd love to be a part of it all. But I take it this isn't for me. So I give up.
Thanks to all who have worked on this and have made the helpful forums about these phones! Maybe if I were more competent I would have figured it out.
Well, I said I was giving up. But maybe not. I did give up trying to recover the phone from being bricked and sent it out to a JTAG shop. For about $40 the phone is supposedly fixed and on it's way back.
But when it's back, do I just leave it alone this time, or should I try to get Lineage OS back on it again? Well, this is something that I haven't made my mind up yet. I see where I had made several mistakes when I first tried to get LineageOS on it. Maybe I know enough now that it won't happen again. But at the same time there's no guarantee that I won't me it up again, and have to pay some $40 again to have it unbricked.
SUCCESS!!!
So I got my phone back with stock Marshmallow working. Then I carefully went through every step on the Linus Tech Tips site, including installing the latest version of TWRP, and the next thing I know I'm running LineageOS 16 on my phone!
This is great! It's my first Android Phone and I've got it setup just about perfect! The only thing I kind of miss is Wi-Fi calling. But that didn't work so well on the Alcatel Window's phones I had anyway. But I got all the apps and most of the music I need installed and am ready to go! I also have two batteries, and the original isn't too bad, so I might carry that around as a backup until I'm sure how much battery I'll be using.
I'll be coming back and thanking all the ones who's posts and work have helped me individually. But if you read this and are one of those who have worked on TWRP, LineageOS and anything else that has helped me, Thank You!

[SOLVED] Stuck on Splash screen after magisk, Need data off device

So firstly i have been doing this myself when necessary for many years now thanks XDA Devs!
The device im using is always just a pokemon go spoof device, maybe the odd game for kids but strictly trashable in the passed. Part of the saftest method to set up the device was that i couldnt backup via TWRP. I didnt care anything i needed was saved on the cloud via game accounts...
Unfortunalty a few months ago i accidently updated from 10 to 11 and it killed my setup.. i was in the mood to fix it off i went. the same methods appeared to be identical for 10 to 11 just newer versions.....
I destroyed my everyday phones camera so i was using the pixel to save important info , only some of which i backed up correctly.. these include keys to wallets. my backup keys....
I stupidy went headfirst into doing the same thing i had done numerous times for myself and others. Its a pretty noob mistake i know.
Im pretty sure i can flash my way back without loosing data, but i need to be 100%.
I believe sideloading the OTA is safe for what i want, but i also see the backup your data warning hitting me on the forehead. Not trusting myself here at the minute.
was android 10 rooted and smali patcher, updated to Android 11... untoached, unlocked bootloader, dev enabled.
Obviosly Pixle 2 XL
Build rp1a.201005.004.a1
So i simply booted TWRP.img v 3.3.0-0 then installed the zip. normal permission errors FAILED TO MOUNT '/SYSTEM (INVALID ARGUMENT)
never needed to care before and wasnt thinking BACKUP.
I renamed magisk v23.0 apk to .zip like normal... installed via TWRP like normal.... whats not normal is im stuck with the loading bar under the G on the splash screen.
It only ever had this problem with samali but it just takes a bit.
I apologise for the story and not getting straight to it but i feel like a clown for this one and felt the need to explain my noobie mistake.
All i care about it a way back to booting up the device with my data intact so i can make it safe. i can knock down and rebuild the setup i need myself, i have been doing this long enough. really just want the clarity on a sure thing way back to my data.
Cheers yall, FYI u can take the micky out of me if you like i get it hahah.
Hi! Did you try to:
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fastboot boot boot.img
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If you will use untouched boot.img from ROM you have on phone, it could boot normally if bootloop happend after magisk patching.
If you will sideload ota image, your data should stay on their place.
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Hi! Did you try to:
Code:
fastboot boot boot.img
from bootloader?
If you will use untouched boot.img from ROM you have on phone, it could boot normally if bootloop happend after magisk patching.
If you will sideload ota image, your data should stay on their place.
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I Actually had not tried a thing once i realised what i could be losing, i had to drop my understanding and pride and triple check my methods.
I extracted boot.img from stock Firmware and fastooted back into the OS. Cheers.
I had that ready to go i almost did it before opening the thread..
I appreciate your time thanks buddy, highly appreciated.

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