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UPDATE: I've found a fix for this issue - AWESOME!
Just go to the Android Market and install the SMS Time Fix app by Matt Precious.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-mattprecious-smsfix-pAFq.aspx
It works perfectly, and updates the time stamp on all messages to relfect PHONE time and not network time. HINT: Make sure the "Last Resort" option is checked in the settings and offset is set to zero. This little app now makes the Evo Messages app usable. Finally...
Hope this is helpful info
So, I've been reading and experiencing several issues with SMS timestamps on the Evo 4G.
It seems there are three distinct issues with SMS timestamps on the the Evo and I believe they all have the same root cause.
Issue 1: When roaming texts are received with the wrong time stamp, offset by several hours (typically 4 or 5 hours off). This causes them to not be threaded in the conversation correctly. Very annoying.
Issue 2: When receiving SMS messages on any network (Sprint or Roaming), the time stamp is off by an hour. The result is the same as Issue 1, but a less extreme example.
Issue 3: When texting back and forth in quick succession, SMS messages are not logged in the order in which they are received, and received text messages ALWAYS appear before sent text messages if they are sent during the same minute, regardless of which one was actually sent first. This is also very annoying.
I believe the root cause is that the native Sense UI messaging app is using the timestamp of the tower of each SMS rather than using the time stored on the phone. To prove this, if you use Handcent and set it to use "phone time" and ignore the tower time, it works perfectly. The thing is that I don't want to use Handcent and I want to use the native app. Is there a setting that can be tweaked to fix this? Has anyone talked to HTC or Sprint about the issue and is a fix in the works?
For such a major problem, I am surprised more people haven't come forward. It's a pretty significant bug...
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Matt_TX.
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I agree and its getting really annoying since it causes me to miss texts.
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Has anyone talked to Sprint or HTC about it? I am sure there HAS to be a fix in the works. The good news is that the native Froyo messaging app does not do this (as far as I can tell). I used a Nexus One on T-mobile and it doesn't occur. It appears to be using the phone's timestamp, as it should...
As long as HTC don't apply their "logic" (or lack thereof) over Froyo, it should be fixed soon.
I also can't believe that Sense UI stops the user from having more than one Exchange account. Android 2.1 (Eclair) does this by default. Why on earth would they remove it?
Anyway, back on topic... Please please post with your thoughts and discoveries around the SMS timestamp issue.
Thanks!
How is this related to development?
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I'm not sure what you mean by "NM, too easy". Can you explain or provide any insight. Please help if you can. For those of us with this issue, it's REALLY annoying. I apologize if the question is dumb and there is an easy fix.
I realize that some of you may not feel that it is related to development, but I disagree. For those geniuses out there that make ROM's, maybe there is some way to fix this with a setting or minor change in the Sense UI messaging app...
Additionally, there is no need to berate someone that's genuinely asking for help. It's obvious that this forum gets the most traffic, and it's obvious that the smartest "Evo User" minds are located here. I don't think there is any harm in reaching out for help, isn't that the purpose behind these forums
The samething was happening to me last night.
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nebenezer said:
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Agreed. If its not happening with Handcent nor the AOSP apk, then its a direct HTC issue.
General Discussion. Also, probably not really that urgent.
./agree on all poins with OP.
I posted in Q&A about this same issues, with no replies 8(.
Anyway, I thought it was related to the modified prl that I installed. However it would do it even when I was on the stock prl.
Long story short, I called sprint and said I was having the issue. They said they were going to refresh something on their side, to wait 20 mins then power cycle the phone.
Did that and to my surprise it worked! Then yesterday I re-flashed a custom rom and the sms timestaps went all wonky. /sigh
suck it up and use handcent or chomp, they are overall better apps, just not as nice of a UI.
this has been a problem for quite some time. I've looked everywhere for a solution. This was a problem on winmo phones as well.
I switched to handcent and never looked back. Once you get it all customized, it's awesome.
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suck it up and use handcent or chomp, they are overall better apps, just not as nice of a UI.
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look at this guy.
handcent didn't work on my froyo rom, not sure about chomp, didn't try it.
at work i always have this problem, texts are recieved 5 hours into the future, whereas the ones i send are the correct time. occasionally ones they send are the correct time so i have to scroll up and down and it is very annoying.
not a fan of handcents pop up notifications, i guess i could turn em off.
guess i'll just 'suck it up'
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this has been a problem for quite some time. I've looked everywhere for a solution. This was a problem on winmo phones as well.
I switched to handcent and never looked back. Once you get it all customized, it's awesome.
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yup, had the same problem on my old HTC Diamond with Sense/TF3d on it.
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Some come tru others dont unless people add text to pic
Some of my MMSs won't download either. I never thought of it being related to whether or not there's text with them before but will keep an eye out.
I thought it might be limited to MMSs from particular contacts so keeping an eye on that and will tidy up my contacts details if needed.
The two I successfully received from my wife had text in them. The one I got from my buddy had no text, and I couldn't download the pic in that one. I then sent one to my wife with no text, but she said she got it, so I don't know what the situation is. My buddy's which didn't come through was sent from TMo > VZN, whereas my wife and I each have the GNex so perhaps it's a content + carrier combination.
Early adopters = late beta testers
I love the phone but wanna smash it sometimes
Bump.... Anyone??
im using hancent and i cant send / receive picture messages at all it just force closes. i tried to send one out today via the stock messaging app. and the same thing. very annoying
Same issue here running 4.0.3 from source
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Same issue here running 4.0.3 from source
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im on 4.0.2 i have noticed that hancent has updated twice since last week with improvements to allow the programs to run on ICS more smoothly hopefully there will be something soon
Try turning on your lte radio, see if maybe its a network issue?
"unfortunately, the process com.handcent.nextsms has stopped"
definately a weird issue
Aye I've received 2 MMSs from people on AT&T. One worked (it was a video), the other didn't (picture). I had to hold-click on the message and say "Download Attachment", then browse to the file using Astro to see it.
Haven't tried sending any yet...
Anyone come up with a fix? or do we have to wait for google?
Howdy,
Before I upgraded to CyanogenMod 9.0, I would get a Google Voice message notification for a text message. I'd go into the web version of Google Voice, answer the text and then after a bit, the notification would go away on my phone.
Now switched to CM9 and the notification doesn't go away unless I answer the text on my phone or clear it out on the phone.
I've tried GummyNex and CM9 and they both do it.
Has anyone else seen this? I've done the thing where I've uninstalled GV, did the *73, deleted all the Verizon VMs and the reinstalled GV but it still does it.
Don't think its related to your ROM as I'm having the exact same issue on stock 4.0.4 and have always been on stock. Seems to have started a couple weeks ago....
Been pulling my hair out trying to figure out what's going on and was about to start a thread myself asking if anyone else had the issue. Thought I was just crazy at first, but I know for a fact this is not how the app acted before. I've tried changing all kinds of things for my browser use of voice.google.com, deleted/re-installed the app, and nothing works.
I'll be texting using just the browser for a bit and look at my phone and I'll have a notification for "25 Google Voice Messages" or whatever. They never clear. I notice that when opening the GV app to the thread I'm texting in, it hasn't synced in the background, and takes a few seconds for the messages I had sent to show up in the thread. It seems as though Google Voice isn't getting background sync anymore.
Aww man So it was just highly coincidental that it happened around the same time I switched over to a different rom.
It's surprisingly frustrating for such a little thing. I just use it so much that it forces me to check the phone and clear it manually to make sure I don't *actually* have a new message when I'm using both my phone and the web app.
Argh.
Yeah - nothing I've found has fixed the issue.
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Aww man So it was just highly coincidental that it happened around the same time I switched over to a different rom.
It's surprisingly frustrating for such a little thing. I just use it so much that it forces me to check the phone and clear it manually to make sure I don't *actually* have a new message when I'm using both my phone and the web app.
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Yes I think it's actually a coincidence as I said I've been on stock and it all of a sudden stopped working as it was. This is just really weird because there's been no update to the app or anything.
It's extra frustrating because Google Voice is my primary #, so I'm doing about 99.9% of my texting with it, and really enjoy being able to use voice.google.com. Dealing with clearing GV notifications every time I pick my phone up is very lame.
I don't believe I'm experiencing this, gv on GSM nexus, stock 4.0.4 rooted. Straight talk tmo mvno
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I don't currently have this with my yakju 4.0.4 OTA stock ROM, but I have seen it before on this phone and every other phone I've owned across stock & custom ROMs. Fairly confident it's a problem with the app itself
@crachel - are you on cdma or gsm?
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Fairly confident it's a problem with the app itself
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What could it be though? I've done everything short of a factory reset. Nothing about the app itself or the settings I used changed and it started happening out of nowhere.
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@crachel - are you on cdma or gsm?
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GSM
martonikaj said:
What could it be though? I've done everything short of a factory reset. Nothing about the app itself or the settings I used changed and it started happening out of nowhere.
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I don't know.. I agree though that the problem just comes and goes, which is odd. Just a couple weeks ago they weren't clearing for me, but right now it's working fine. I remember thinking that's it's ridiculous this happens on stock firmware
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I don't know.. I agree though that the problem just comes and goes, which is odd. Just a couple weeks ago they weren't clearing for me, but right now it's working fine. I remember thinking that's it's ridiculous this happens on stock firmware
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Even moreso ridiculous if this is a known issue and they haven't addressed it even with these several early 2012 updates to the GV app, which made it a lot better overall in UI and UX. I just don't see how it can come and go with no changes whatsoever to your settings.
Mine definitely does the same thing... I thought it used to clear them for me, but I wasn't sure, and figured I was just thinking of how Google Talk clears the messages.
Not a huge deal to me, but it would definitely be nice if they would fix this. Our best bet is to make a post on the help forums with a bunch of posts in it.
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Mine definitely does the same thing... I thought it used to clear them for me, but I wasn't sure, and figured I was just thinking of how Google Talk clears the messages.
Not a huge deal to me, but it would definitely be nice if they would fix this. Our best bet is to make a post on the help forums with a bunch of posts in it.
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If I get some time I'll put up a bug report on Google Groups/Google Code.
Edit: Nevermind! Someone's on it already from February: https://code.google.com/p/android/i...on&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
I'd appreciate if you're having this issue to star and comment there (as well as here).
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If I get some time I'll put up a bug report on Google Groups/Google Code.
Edit: Nevermind! Someone's on it already from February: https://code.google.com/p/android/i...on&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
I'd appreciate if you're having this issue to star and comment there (as well as here).
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Thanks for the link!
If anyone has a chance, they should make a post in the Google Voice forums here (I'll try to do it later when I have a chance if no-one else gets to it): http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!categories/voice/using-google-voice-on-a-mobile-device. I heard that Google Engineers do monitor / read these sometimes, so if we all post in a thread there is a chance it will get read / fixed.
I really wish there was a better way to get stuff like this fixed.
Bit late to the party. Just wanted to chime in that in my experience I don't think I've ever seen the GV notification clear itself after checking the web interface on my computer.
I've been using android for a year now and have gone through 3 phones and the asus transformer tablet. My current phone is running a CM9 based rom, but still it doesn't clear these notifications.
Man, I'd love it if it did.
Note: I think that if you use the GV widget, you will see that the notification on the widget DOES clear after checking the web interface (or at least it did in GB because I just tested this on my current phone and widget doesn't clear it either). I suppose this means that GV is pushing the "read" status of an sms to our phones. The notification on the notification bar, however, still persists despite this.
EDIT: Given my last test on my current phone, it looks like the widget doesn't clear the notification like it used to on GB. It looks like it is, in fact, a syncing issue.
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Bit late to the party. Just wanted to chime in that in my experience I don't think I've ever seen the GV notification clear itself after checking the web interface on my computer.
I've been using android for a year now and have gone through 3 phones and the asus transformer tablet. My current phone is running a CM9 based rom, but still it doesn't clear these notifications.
Man, I'd love it if it did.
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I can confirm that it actually did used to clear when viewed on another device, and this is the intended action. It should work exactly like an IMAP e-mail account (say, the GMail app). If you view a message on the device or in a web browser, it is cleared as read on the other. Google Voice used to do the same, and stopped doing so randomly. It's completely a backend problem.
Really wish they would fix this. Still happening on JB. Very annoying for those of us who text from the web all day.
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Really wish they would fix this. Still happening on JB. Very annoying for those of us who text from the web all day.
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Still a problem, go over to the google group link posted above and star the issue to (hopefully) increase it's priority and visibility:
https://code.google.com/p/android/i...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=25301
I switched to CM11 nightlies when it came out for galaxy nexus. Been having all kinds of issues with texting. First i tried hangouts and i couldnt get lightflow to work with it so i could get repeat notifications and stuff like that. Gave up on hangouts and switched to the normal messaging app. Probably should add that my voicemail and text messages are going through google voice account but i have google voice setup on phone only to sync the voicemails and let normal messaging app to deal with sms/mms. anyway, since switching to the normal messaging app i have been getting text messages multiple times. just had a few texts i originally received about 5 hours ago come through again in a quick burst right after i got a new message from somebody else. i have played with lots of the settings but nothing seems to fix this. the other day i got repeat messages come through the second time at about 3am which was annoying as hell. thinking about it some more it also did it once or twice when i was using hangouts. please help!?!?
i just looked online at my google voice account and im not getting them twice on there so its something on the phone doing it. going to uninstall lightflow and see if its causing the problem.
It could be a problem with CM11. I remember having the issue on CMetal when the message would come in twice using the stock messaging app. It was later fixed by the developer. So maybe its an issue Cyanogenmod has to fix. As far as Lightflow working with Hangouts. It works fine for me. You need to make sure you turn off the notification in the Hangouts app so you dont get the sound/vibrate twice.
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It could be a problem with CM11. I remember having the issue on CMetal when the message would come in twice using the stock messaging app. It was later fixed by the developer. So maybe its an issue Cyanogenmod has to fix. As far as Lightflow working with Hangouts. It works fine for me. You need to make sure you turn off the notification in the Hangouts app so you dont get the sound/vibrate twice.
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thanks. so far so good with lightflow uninstalled- no double messages yet and have received some texts in last hour or so and none ofthem have repeated. problem with lightflow and hangouts i was having wasnt double notifications, it was i got only the default hangouts notification and nothing that was set in lightflow. ill keep playing with it i guess and keep updating CM and try again in a few days or week to see if it works better.
mind sharing your settings you had for lightflow- what settings for lightflow app and then what notifications you were using (all hangouts messages, sms, mms, etc). there is so many to choose from for hangouts in lightflow i wasnt sure what correct ones to use was and all the combinations i tried didnt seem to work. thanks.
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thanks. so far so good with lightflow uninstalled- no double messages yet and have received some texts in last hour or so and none ofthem have repeated. problem with lightflow and hangouts i was having wasnt double notifications, it was i got only the default hangouts notification and nothing that was set in lightflow. ill keep playing with it i guess and keep updating CM and try again in a few days or week to see if it works better.
mind sharing your settings you had for lightflow- what settings for lightflow app and then what notifications you were using (all hangouts messages, sms, mms, etc). there is so many to choose from for hangouts in lightflow i wasnt sure what correct ones to use was and all the combinations i tried didnt seem to work. thanks.
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The only thing I touched in light flow was the "hangouts-all notification types". I didn't use the MMS and SMS ones.
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The only thing I touched in light flow was the "hangouts-all notification types". I didn't use the MMS and SMS ones.
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thanks. reinstalled lightflow, reselected hangouts as default sms app, and just did what you said above and it seems to be working. Before i had messed with lightflow settings and clearly one of those options screwed things up. no double messages yet either- ill keep my fingers crossed that either reinstalling or the latest CM update fixed that. thanks for your help- appreciate it!
thought everything was working but still getting messages coming through a second time. seems to be only the messages that i dont actually go in the app and mark as read. im going to make sure i clear those and see if it helps for now.
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thought everything was working but still getting messages coming through a second time. seems to be only the messages that i dont actually go in the app and mark as read. im going to make sure i clear those and see if it helps for now.
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Great, report back.
One suggestion though, instead of going through all these trial and error attempts, you could just get a logcat and get it to lightflow dev/CM11 maintainer (or nightly thread), surely they will be able to help more/pinpoint the culprit.
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Great, report back.
One suggestion though, instead of going through all these trial and error attempts, you could just get a logcat and get it to lightflow dev/CM11 maintainer (or nightly thread), surely they will be able to help more/pinpoint the culprit.
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thanks for the suggestion. ill try and figure out how to do that and get it to them.
i have still been messing with it and have had no luck. it is so $%#&ed up i am annoyed beyond belief. just a few minutes ago- got a notification of a photo of my niece my brother texted to me. preview of photo was visible in notification but when i click on it, nothing, messages just disappears. Not to mention im not just getting double messages anymore, i get up to quadruple messages sometimes. ive been close to just throwing my phone against the wall when suddenly every message i received in the last day come through again, 4 times each, and phone is trying to notify for each message- feels like its going to vibrate itself to pieces and the beeping over beeping over beeping is just crazy.
Doesnt matter if i have hangouts or the stock messaging app as the default sms/mms app. doesnt seem to matter what settings i use in any of them, because ive tried just about every combination. i'm eligible for a phone upgrade at the end of this month so i just have to make the phone bearable until then. im going to try the logcat thing but after i send that ill just go back to stock to see if that helps cuz im going to go crazy(ier) having to deal with this anymore. Grrrr!
sorry to keep posting on here to complain but just to add to the mystery. brother resent the text that disappeared when i clicked on it a few minutes ago. new one opened fine and the one that disappeared earlier suddenly showed up also.
Ever since December 23rd or so, when I first rooted my stock Nexus 5X, Google Messenger has been behaving strangely. Long SMS messages have seemingly random characters attached to the end of them, which do not show up on the sender's end. The most common is a "¿", but occasionally I get a delta ∆ on the end. I cannot find anyone else with this problem either here or elsewhere online. Does anyone have ideas? It's not necessarily a problem, but it is a mysterious inconvenience.
I am running the latest update of Marshmallow (stock ROM), with systemless root (SuperSU 2.61 I believe) and TWRP recovery. Nothing else out of the ordinary. This did only become a problem after rooting my phone, which may be part of the problem. Any help would be appreciated!
Edit: it should be noted that while these are valid characters, they do not appear when searched for with Messenger's built-in search function.
just to be sure: these symbols appear on your end after receiving a sms? in that case it would be interesting to know what phones/apps the sender of those uses.
if this is the case with sms you have written, it could be useful to know what keyboard/input method you are using. did you restore your sms' and/or the messenger app from a previous backup?
first thing you could try is clearing the app data and maybe de-/reinstalling possible updates of it.
interested to see how your case turns out, since i never heard of anything like this.
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just to be sure: these symbols appear on your end after receiving a sms? in that case it would be interesting to know what phones/apps the sender of those uses.
if this is the case with sms you have written, it could be useful to know what keyboard/input method you are using. did you restore your sms' and/or the messenger app from a previous backup?
first thing you could try is clearing the app data and maybe de-/reinstalling possible updates of it.
interested to see how your case turns out, since i never heard of anything like this.
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Yes, they are on my end. It has happened so far with iPhone and Android senders using their stock messages application. And I have already cleared cache/data for Messenger with no change. It is a most unusual problem. I may just try uninstalling and reinstalling the app.
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Yes, they are on my end. It has happened so far with iPhone and Android senders using their stock messages application. And I have already cleared cache/data for Messenger with no change. It is a most unusual problem. I may just try uninstalling and reinstalling the app.
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Also seeing this behavior occasionally, from both iPhone and Android senders. Haven't been able to figure out a pattern yet as it's only happened three times so far (three different senders, one time each). It's the strangest thing. I wish Messenger had some sort of bug reporting utility, since I've found several already.
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Also seeing this behavior occasionally, from both iPhone and Android senders. Haven't been able to figure out a pattern yet as it's only happened three times so far (three different senders, one time each). It's the strangest thing. I wish Messenger had some sort of bug reporting utility, since I've found several already.
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I have switched to Textra indefinitely, as this does not solve the problem, but does support many features that Messenger is lacking. If you find a way to submit a bug report, I would be interested in that information