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NOTE: Im turning this into a sharing thread where everybody can post and share their techniques on how they save battery consumption. I'll quote all the useful suggestions here in the first post
I would like to start off by saying that all ROMs basically consume badly just like the stock version. There could be little to no differences between them with regards to battery performance. Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance.
glennlevi's Technique:
1. Get Antutu Battery Saver Pro (Free version can be found in the market). Install and untick the option control cpu speed.
2. Using No Frills CPU, or any other built-in cpu settings app, select your default governor (bcm####) and sio as your I/O scheduler. Maximum Frequency should be your highest available, and Minimum Frequency your lowest available.
3. Manually adjust screen brightness in settings to about 20%.
4. Untick Background Data and Auto Sync in settings, under Accounts and Sync Settings.
5. Get Ram Booster (Free in market) and install. Open. Under settings, set Boost Level to aggresive, set whitelist apps and tick your launcher, sms app, keyboard, and Ram Booster and Antutu Battery Saver. Untick Show Overlay Widget in Overlay Widget Settings. Enable the widget in the notification bar, refresh every 5s, Report Style Dont Show. Under Advanced Settings, set Feedback to None. Clean Ram using this app everytime just before you turn off your screen or want to stop using your phone.
6. Drag down your notification bar and tap the Ram Booster Notification. Now wait a couple of mins while browsing through your phone (without opening any apps)
*You can use other task killers if you want, but Ram Booster is the best IMO. A better replacement however is 360 launcher's cleaner widget (which will save more memory, ram and battery usage since its all in one app)
7. Open settings and go to Applications>Running Processes and look at all running apps, you will see some auto-start apps like Beats Audio, DSP Manager, Google Mail, Google Maps, Google Playstore and others. Uninstall all user apps that have autostarted. Download Titanium Backup and use it to uninstall stock bloatware, like google maps and google mail, or other custom bloatware like Beats Audio (If you dont use them at all). Clean Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup and Clean Cache using Ram Booster. Freeze seldom used apps like Google Playstore. Just unfreeze when you want to use them.
*You can use other apps like Root Uninstaller to remove system apps, but IMO Titanium Backup is the easiest to use and has one of the most functions.
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Imacatlover said:
The best way to save battery is really to know your fone.
1. any type of widget should be avoided( except maybe clock) as they are juice hoggers.
2. ANY app that suggest or implies that they save battery defeats their own purpose for they themselves consume battery life...figures.
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
5. keep most settings to a minimum.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
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irfanbagus said:
i do. well, not full kernel, just kernel module. search bacem-tweak in dev section. but i find that the best thing you can do to save battery is keep your phone sleep as long as possible. that's means remove bloatware, limit installed app with service, and only turn data/wifi when needed. combine with undervoltage, usually i got 3-4 days in single charge. in some very rare condition i got 6-7 days.
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There you go! Have a blazing fast and battery healthy SGY!
i'll try that as soon as i can
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i'll try that as soon as i can
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Just to be clear, using Titanium Backup and changing CPU settings requires a rooted phone
Well, most custom roms are rooted anyways. Im just saying this cuz you might be running on stock rom
Nice tutorial :good: :good: :good:
Good one thanks mate xD
I'd like to confirm a few things. some of info on this thread is never heard.
glennlevi said:
2. Using No Frills CPU, or any other built-in cpu settings app, select your default governor (bcm####) and sio as your I/O scheduler. Maximum Frequency should be your highest available, and Minimum Frequency your lowest available.
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bcm work almost like performance gov. are sure about it?
5. Get Ram Booster (Free in market) and install. Open. Under settings, set Boost Level to aggresive, set whitelist apps and tick your launcher, sms app, keyboard, and Ram Booster and Antutu Battery Saver. Untick Show Overlay Widget in Overlay Widget Settings. Enable the widget in the notification bar, refresh every 5s, Report Style Dont Show. Under Advanced Settings, set Feedback to None. Clean Ram using this app everytime just before you turn off your screen or want to stop using your phone.
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is this information have been confirmed? as far as I know fewer widget is low ram consuming and more battery friendly. notification will prevent your device sleep. notification for every 5 second?it will make your battery life decreased, a lot. on other hand, clean ram have been proved consume huge battery power.
6. Drag down your notification bar and tap the Ram Booster Notification. Now wait a couple of mins while browsing through your phone (without opening any apps)
*You can use other task killers if you want, but Ram Booster is the best IMO. A better replacement however is 360 launcher's cleaner widget (which will save more memory, ram and battery usage since its all in one app)
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why should I use it when android have it's own task killer.?
7. Open settings and go to Applications>Running Processes and look at all running apps, you will see some auto-start apps like Beats Audio, DSP Manager, Google Mail, Google Maps, Google Playstore and others. Uninstall all user apps that have autostarted. Download Titanium Backup and use it to uninstall stock bloatware, like google maps and google mail, or other custom bloatware like Beats Audio (If you dont use them at all). Clean Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup and Clean Cache using Ram Booster. Freeze seldom used apps like Google Playstore. Just unfreeze when you want to use them.
*You can use other apps like Root Uninstaller to remove system apps, but IMO Titanium Backup is the easiest to use and has one of the most functions.
There you go! Have a blazing fast and battery healthy SGY!
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most android app work with autostart. in fact, all you can see in android is actually an app. debloatware is a good recommendation, but a complete app removing? please make sure about the validity of these information.
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I'd like to confirm a few things. some of info on this thread is never heard. bcm work almost like performance gov. are sure about it?
is this information have been confirmed? as far as I know fewer widget is low ram consuming and more battery friendly. notification will prevent your device sleep. notification for every 5 second?it will make your battery life decreased, a lot. on other hand, clean ram have been proved consume huge battery power.
why should I use it when android have it's own task killer.?
most android app work with autostart. in fact, all you can see in android is actually an app. debloatware is a good recommendation, but a complete app removing? please make sure about the validity of these information.
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First off I would like to quote myself -
"Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance."
As such, Im sharing this because
1. I think it might help other people.
2. I've tried it and compared it many times in many different rom, and what I recommend is based from my own experience
3. I know youre a dev. Im not, obviously. That doesnt mean I cant share what I think is useful. This is also backed up by the fact that Im not claiming Im sure that these actually work and that I can back it up with additional information. Again, this is just based on my experience.
again I would like to repeat the quotation from myself:
"Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance."
There you go. I hope that clears it all up. So please dont pick on me or anything just because Im not a dev. Thank you.
nope...I never intended to pick on you. I'm just feeding up my curiosity. I'm sorry if you feel like that.
thanks for sharing we need tat support...other be frank..be opened for sharing..
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nope...I never intended to pick on you. I'm just feeding up my curiosity. I'm sorry if you feel like that.
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Well, thanks anyways for noticing my thread. Now I know some of my suggestions may be far from the theoretical facts that you know, but there are times when actually testing something and comparing it with others yield better results than just looking up the figures. Thats just my take on it though, so Im not saying thats all there is to it.
Anyway, maybe I'll edit this thread and make it a SHARING THREAD instead. I'll just regularly view it and put all suggestions that other members have in the first post
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Well, thanks anyways for noticing my thread. Now I know some of my suggestions may be far from the theoretical facts that you know, but there are times when actually testing something and comparing it with others yield better results than just looking up the figures. Thats just my take on it though, so Im not saying thats all there is to it.
Anyway, maybe I'll edit this thread and make it a SHARING THREAD instead. I'll just regularly view it and put all suggestions that other members have in the first post
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The best way to save battery is really to know your fone.
1. any type of widget should be avoided( except maybe clock) as they are juice hoggers.
2. ANY app that suggest or implies that they save battery defeats their own purpose for they themselves consume battery life...figures.
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
5. keep most settings to a minimum.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
good tutorial
I will try it
Thanks
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3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
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do you ever wonder how ram cleaner works ? by killing some applications. ram cleaner = task killer.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
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not that crap if you realize it's 2011 android phone with $120 price. right now with that money you can find a lot better phone, but in late of 2011 there is only few choice on that price range.
Please share your battery saving techniques and tips here! I will add the good ones on the first post with quotation.
Probably when there are already a lot, I will compile all tips to make one big guide which has been contributed by the whole community. Lets work together on this
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do you ever wonder how ram cleaner works ? by killing some applications. ram cleaner = task killer.
not that crap if you realize it's 2011 android phone with $120 price. right now with that money you can find a lot better phone, but in late of 2011 there is only few choice on that price range.
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hmm... seems legit
Cant argue with you on that, most apps are generally glorified task managers, there are a few good ones though.
That's why i'm planning to buy a new android this christmas, maybe S1 or S2 depending on my budget.
wonder why no one want to make a battery saver kernel than superspeed kernel...
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That's why i'm planning to buy a new android this christmas, maybe S1 or S2 depending on my budget.
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why not nexus phone ?
i do have plan to buy another android phone after i give my sgy to my girlfriend and back to my old rokr e6. but not this year. too much spending money for gadget this year.
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wonder why no one want to make a battery saver kernel than superspeed kernel...
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i do. well, not full kernel, just kernel module. search bacem-tweak in dev section. but i find that the best thing you can do to save battery is keep your phone sleep as long as possible. that's means remove bloatware, limit installed app with service, and only turn data/wifi when needed. combine with undervoltage, usually i got 3-4 days in single charge. in some very rare condition i got 6-7 days.
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why not nexus phone ?
i do have plan to buy another android phone after i give my sgy to my girlfriend and back to my old rokr e6. but not this year. too much spending .
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Sir i want to ask you onething, offtopic, in nexus there is no memorycard slot, so we have to keep all data including gallery files and even a new rom in phone memory. If we want to flash a new rom, then how can we do that? While we wipe the data and cache before flashing all data will be deleted? The rom file too?.
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I am using juice defender, i think it's good.
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For all those using Redmi 1S, I'd like to share some 'tips' which I found out while tinkering here and there, which resulted in much better memory management. Now I never see that irritating "loading" screen:
1) First manage start up apps through Security > Permissions > Autostart. Only the much needed apps should be kept there.
2) Settings > Additional Settings > Battery
Power settings - Balanced
System animations - Hide
Manage apps' battery usage - Advanced
3) Activate Developer options by tapping MIUI Version info (under Settings > About Phone) continuously. Now go to Developer options (Settings > Additional Settings). Make following changes:
Window animation scale - .5x
Transition animation scale - .5x
Animator duration scale - .5x
Memory optimization - High (This will require a reboot)
You may completely turn off animation scales but I kept have kept them at .5x and it works good enough.
After you reboot, your free RAM should be at least 50MB more than what it used to be. My total free RAM was 400MB+ for the first time ever but it hovers around 300-340 MB now. And no more loading screen.
I tried this in two Redmi 1S, and it worked as expected. I hope it works for everyone.
My Redmi 1S is on 7.1.1.0 Global.
Good Luck.
PS: There are many more factors which affect the running of phone for eg I just have 2 apps in start up, and have greenified almost all apps except a couple, which even includes gmail, Google App, Whatsapp and many others which most of the people skip, so usage scenario might differ from person to person.
Another tip for memory management.......don't use MIUI.
vicky romero said:
Another tip for memory management.......don't use MIUI.
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Well, every other ROM out there has some +/- . I would also like to switch to any other less memory hogging ROM but I'm so addicted to some here and there small features of MIUI that I just can't imagine switching.
And flashing ROM might not be everyone's cup of tea.
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Well, every other ROM out there has some +/- . I would also like to switch to any other less memory hogging ROM but I'm so addicted to some here and there small features of MIUI that I just can't imagine switching.
And flashing ROM might not be everyone's cup of tea.
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Same with me...can't think of migrating from miui...so proud of using it...
rick_th1 said:
Same with me...can't think of migrating from miui...so proud of using it...
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If possible could you please try the steps I suggested and let me know if it really helps ?
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If possible could you please try the steps I suggested and let me know if it really helps ?
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I must say that I knew these steps(nt lying) and these steps really do work...thanks for sharing
the only reason not use miui is its slow most of the times and sound quality is worst (inspite of dirac). It would be great if they start using viper4android instead of dirac
cm 12 and 13 rom gives good battery backup on neon kernel
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Thank you for the tips bro :good:
I'll give my list of changes I do whenever I install a ROM
1. Disable auto sync
2. Disable auto rotation
3. Disable location
4. Disable ambient display
5. Disable sounds ( KB, ls, do and vibration etc)
6. Disable headsup set priority mode
7. Disable animation ( dev options )
8. Disable useless system apps or remove
9. Disable usage access to apps
10. Change app settings enable dark theme
These settings effect on both battery and memory , I get 5hrs sot and memory usage never over 70% my usage is low as our device have 1GB I use apps according it
Hello.
I got a Mi A2 Lite a few days ago, is my first Android One. My model have 3Gb of RAM.
I'm facing the following problem:
Let's say I'm playing Lords Mobile (the only game I play). Then, I receive a message on WhatsApp. I go there and reply. I then go to Facebook and/or Chrome to check something, and want to go back to Lords Mobile. The game was pulled out from memory, and need to reload again from zero. Same with Chrome, it shows all my tabs I had opened, but is surelly reloading again from zero. Is like the "clear all" of 'recent apps' on some other phones.
I think 3Gb of RAM is enough to handle these apps, don't? I don't have too much apps installed, and the memory use is about 2Gb. I don't know if this behavior is native, by the way. Another example: if I go to sleep just after play, when I go to game again in the morning, the game reload from zero.
Is this normal? Any way to make this model handle the memory in a better way, if is the case?
My device is on Pie, July security patch. No root.
Thanks in advice
It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.
a1291762 said:
It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.
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Thanks.
Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?
romulocarlos said:
Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?
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Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).
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Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).
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Thank you. I don't go for Android Go, seems worse. lol
Any other suggestions will be welcome.
It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.
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It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.
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Well, custom kernel and ROMs means unlocking bootloader... I can't do this for now. But, anyway, thanks!
3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.
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3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.
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Well, taking in note what @slimshady76 wrote above, maybe the "Butterfly for daisy" will be a good deal. But I can't do it now.
I just made a test on last 2 days.
I uninstalled any optional app on phone I downloaded, and disabled a lot of system apps. Lords Mobile won't unload from memory when switching and/or when I sleep and back to game at morning.
So, is a lack of memory, but I still thinking 3Gb is enough to handle it. When 10.0.12.0 comes available to download, I'll try Butterfly kernel.
Hi,
i guess Stock Pie has a Memory Leak and Garbage collector doesnt work.
I background restricted some apps in Settings but all of them still works on background. I cant see them on the Task Manager but i can see the Ram usage on AIDA64 app.
What i did:
- i set background restriction to these apps. (64 app restricted)
- i select app restrict behavior to Frequent. (for all of them)
- Task manager is empty.
- Cant see these leaked apps even on Android 9's built in Ram usage feature.
- i tryed kill apps when leave feature on the developer options. (These apps garbage still stays on the Ram)
- i even set background app limit 4 (Somehow developer options closed it self and everything i set reverted back to stock when i restart my phone)
But apps still eats the Ram from the background. I know because i can see Ram details on the AIDA64 app.
Phone starts with ~1600'ish mb available Ram. Available Ram decreases when i open-close these background restricted apps. (Hey! I am restricting apps because i dont want them working on the background. Like a Google Translator, Mi Remote, Hd Wallpapers app etc. i restricted all but these apps still works.) If my phone's Ram decrease everything starts slowing down. I am seeing it and i can feel it. After 5 or 10 minute later Ram usage jumps ~2000 mb. Some pieces of background restricted apps still stays in the Ram and i cant avoid from it on Stock Pie and these pieces slowing down my phone's performance. I am not using 26 apps!! Maybe 4 or 5 apps i am frequently using. I dont want unused apps garbage on Ram.
Huawei's EMUI has a built-in feature to avoid auto-start apps. Some custom roms has a Wake-Lock blocker. But i dont have anything on Stock Pie.
I just dont want these apps garbage on my phone's Ram. Because of these reasons i can clearly say Mi A2 Lite's Stock Pie rom has bad garbage collector. Dont know Xiaomi modified it or not. Probably thats why Stock Pie roms consumes more battery than Stock Oreo.
I am not the man who believe 'unused Ram is a waste'.
I just want most important system apps on the Ram and other almost everything shouldnt occupy a space on the Ram. This motto is the key reason of performance for Budget phones on my perspective.
Rom details:
Locked - Stock Android 9 - v10.16.0 (November 2019)
What i am asking is:
- Which Roms has built-in feature to avoid from this?
- Which Roms has a best Garbage collector?
- Which Rom fits to my requirements?
Thanks.
perfect_ said:
I background restricted some apps in Settings but all of them still works on background. I cant see them on the Task Manager but i can see the Ram usage on AIDA64 app.
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You are fundamentally misunderstaning how task management works.
Restricting stops apps from using the CPU (and thus, the battery).
Android will leave unused apps in RAM for faster launching later. Some "AI" decides which of these to keep when more RAM is needed.
If it offends you to see these apps in a low-level task manager you can kill them. Heaps of task manager apps can do this automatically. You need something like greenify if you want them to stay dead.
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You are fundamentally misunderstaning how task management works.
Restricting stops apps from using the CPU (and thus, the battery).
Android will leave unused apps in RAM for faster launching later. Some "AI" decides which of these to keep when more RAM is needed.
If it offends you to see these apps in a low-level task manager you can kill them. Heaps of task manager apps can do this automatically. You need something like greenify if you want them to stay dead.
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I did not misunderstand anything. You didnt understand what i mean exactly.
Why Hd Backgrounds app or Mi Remote app should stay on the Ram even i dont use them? I am using them once a week or so. Thats why i dont need faster launch. Because i am not using them? Clear?Youre talking about app restart power consumption. Thats the point. I am not using them and i am not starting them in a single charge. Even if i want to restart these (as i said this thing happens once a week) apps restart power consumption consumes incomparably less energy than phone restart power consumption. I dont want to use my phone’s Ram with junks.
Do you prefer trashy Ram with bunch of junks? I dont prefer it. I cant clean these apps Ram garbage until restart my phone. The restart consumes a lot of energy and when my phones Ram become trashy i should restart all system to clean them.
Restart has benefits;
- More performance
- Clean Ram
- Better Battery life until Ram become trashy
What i am saying is why i cant use these benefits without restart. Think about all these power consumption when we restart our phone.
Its all about garbage collection and this thing doesnt work on Android Pie. I tryed Greenify gived it all what app wants still nothing changed. Ram still gets trashy and this causes; slowdowns, hiccups, more battery consumption,.. etc. Even my phone’s processor and battery doesnt like garbage on Ram.
I hope Huawei’s HarmonyOS will work better than Google’s trashy Ram management.
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Why Hd Backgrounds app or Mi Remote app should stay on the Ram even i dont use them?
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Because there is no benefit to removing them from your RAM.
perfect_ said:
I dont want to use my phone’s Ram with junks.
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It's not junk. If you want tasks killed, get a task killer. If you want to prevent apps from starting, get a hibernation app.
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I hope Huawei’s HarmonyOS will work better than Google’s trashy Ram management.
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The Chinese OEMS are notorious for evicting programs from RAM and preventing them from running in the background, fundamentally breaking the android API contract in the process. If you think that's better then by all means, go use one of those ROMs.
I for one got the A2 Lite instead of the Redmi 6 Pro precisely to avoid MIUI and its task management policies.
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Because there is no benefit to removing them from your RAM.
It's not junk. If you want tasks killed, get a task killer. If you want to prevent apps from starting, get a hibernation app.
The Chinese OEMS are notorious for evicting programs from RAM and preventing them from running in the background, fundamentally breaking the android API contract in the process. If you think that's better then by all means, go use one of those ROMs.
I for one got the A2 Lite instead of the Redmi 6 Pro precisely to avoid MIUI and its task management policies.
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There is no point to talk with you. You dont even know what junk it is. Do not write to my threads!
Greetings,
Did anyone find the present issues with ONE UI 4.0 update in Galaxy S20 Ultra?
Well for me, After updating to android 12, my device has started to lag, mostly while switching windows, i mean apps and while pulling down the task bar for notifications and quick settings. Even there is a visible decrease in the overall performance.
Fixes that i have tried are, changing between different settings, such as toggling 120Hz back 60Hz and then back to 120Hz, changing color temprature to vivid then back to normal and then back to vivid plus switching off the blur in task bar by going into Accessibility settings > Visibility Enhancements > Reduce transparency and blur but nothing has worked so far. As a last resort to fix this problem, i have also reset it to factory, little improvement though but unsatisfactory.
What could be the possible issue and What could fix this?
You did a factory reset... 12 is a dud.
Not going to candy coat it as many have wanted to roll back from it. You can either do that, wait for a patch or play with it and try to find a work arounds. Try disabling all animations, etc in Developer options.
On my N10+'s one is 9, the other 10 and there they will stay.
Well, i think it is a good idea to play with it while gathering tips and tricks from other users.
I don't have these kinds of issues on OneUI 4.0, this update actually fixed most of the issues I had with this phone to be honest.
PROGamer_199 said:
I don't have these kinds of issues on OneUI 4.0, this update actually fixed most of the issues I had with this phone to be honest.
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What is your security patch date?
I have the very same issues after updating my S20 5G to One UI 4.0 Android 12. Tried everything without improvement. Rebooting te phone helps a bit for at most 24 hours, after which the phone is too laggy and stuttering again to work with...
maxi65 said:
What is your security patch date?
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1st of december 2021.
If reboot can fix it for 24 hours then i won't bother rebooting it every 24 hours.
maxi65 said:
If reboot can fix it for 24 hours then i won't bother rebooting it every 24 hours.
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Tried it but nothing has changed.
Goldenrooster said:
I have the very same issues after updating my S20 5G to One UI 4.0 Android 12. Tried everything without improvement. Rebooting te phone helps a bit for at most 24 hours, after which the phone is too laggy and stuttering again to work with...
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Is it a memory leak? What's ram usage look like when it acts up? What apks or services are running? How much memory are they using? What's using a lot a battery and/or bandwidth?
Play with it... Adroids wuv attention.
I can go for many days without a reboot on my N10+'s, most of the times I reboot as an afterthought rather than a necessity. The Android OS should be very stable... not running like bloody Vista
blackhawk said:
Is it a memory leak? What's ram usage look like when it acts up? What apks or services are running? How much memory are they using? What's using a lot a battery and/or bandwidth?
Play with it... Adroids wuv attention.
I can go for many days without a reboot on my N10+'s, most of the times I reboot as an afterthought rather than a necessity. The Android OS should be very stable... not running like bloody Vista
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The reason is still unknown.
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The reason is still unknown.
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You need to start looking for clues.
They are there in Device Care and Developer options showing what's cached, running and stats on memory usage. Seeing what's accessing the internet and how often is another tool to use. I also use 3rd party apps like Package Disabler to troubleshoot.
That's how I find almost everything that misbehaves on an Android.
I never upgrade an OS if it is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. As I have already spent a lot of time to optimize it and find work arounds. Moreover I know how it should behave making malware easier to spot at the get go. I spend very little time on maintenance as such.
The current load on this phone will be 2 yo in June. That's the kind of stability the Android OS platform is capable of. If you're constantly mucking with the firmware and software you'll never realize this potential. Forget the Google update hype and go with what works... and always redundantly backup critical data.
Only thing that I can find is that RAM usage of Android System right after reboot is 14 MB, but after everything starts to lag and stutter (usually after 24 hrs) RAM usage is around 500 MB... Can't find any other strange behavior..
Goldenrooster said:
Only thing that I can find is that RAM usage of Android System right after reboot is 14 MB, but after everything starts to lag and stutter (usually after 24 hrs) RAM usage is around 500 MB... Can't find any other strange behavior..
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I think usage of 500Mb can't effect the performance because it has 12 GB of RAM.
blackhawk said:
You need to start looking for clues.
They are there in Device Care and Developer options showing what's cached, running and stats on memory usage. Seeing what's accessing the internet and how often is another tool to use. I also use 3rd party apps like Package Disabler to troubleshoot.
That's how I find almost everything that misbehaves on an Android.
I never upgrade an OS if it is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. As I have already spent a lot of time to optimize it and find work arounds. Moreover I know how it should behave making malware easier to spot at the get go. I spend very little time on maintenance as such.
The current load on this phone will be 2 yo in June. That's the kind of stability the Android OS platform is capable of. If you're constantly mucking with the firmware and software you'll never realize this potential. Forget the Google update hype and go with what works... and always redundantly backup critical data.
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Ahan we went after the new features so updated.
maxi65 said:
I think usage of 500Mb can't effect the performance because it has 12 GB of RAM.
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I found it in Developer Options under Active Services "RAM-Status¨ . All my other Android devices (phones and tablets) consistently indicate around 15 MB... Average Ram usage for Android OS (3 hours) indicates 1,8 GB...
Goldenrooster said:
I found it in Developer Options under Active Services "RAM-Status¨ . All my other Android devices (phones and tablets) consistently indicate around 15 MB... Average Ram usage for Android OS (3 hours) indicates 1,8 GB...
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Looking at this screenshot, Very similar results.
maxi65 said:
Looking at this screenshot, Very similar results.
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Try going to Running Services instead.
.5 gb of ram usage? That's way too low.
Here it is.
blackhawk said:
Try going to Running Services instead.
.5 gb of ram usage? That's way too low.
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blackhawk said:
Try going to Running Services instead.
.5 gb of ram usage? That's way too low.
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Running services voor app Android System (after reboot) is 15 MB, but when the phone starts to stutter it is 500 MB....