Hi,
it's all in the title, many websites announced it provides 802.11ac (since it's the same 625 chip it would make sense) while the official spec doesn't, so, does it ?
No, 5 GHz n is max.
That there is no ac wifi can be a problem? Because I'm thinking about replacing my dear old LG G2 with this a2l, but that's one of the things that's blocking me.
GeNiO790 said:
That there is no ac wifi can be a problem? Because I'm thinking about replacing my dear old LG G2 with this a2l, but that's one of the things that's blocking me.
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Do you really need to download something at speeds over 300 Mbps on your phone?
There is already have 802.11n at 5 GHz.
And don't think that 5 GHz will ever supersede 2.4 GHz, because you should know that more high frequencies means less signal penetration through obstacles, but also more speed.
BubuXP said:
Do you really need to download something at speeds over 300 Mbps on your phone?
There is already have 802.11n at 5 GHz.
And don't think that 5 GHz will ever supersede 2.4 GHz, because you should know that more high frequencies means less signal penetration through obstacles, but also more speed.
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Why you defend the undefendable?
The "****ty" mediatek from the 2015s Redmi Note 2 already allowed Wifi AC
The Snapdragon 625 also can handle it, so this is another ****ty movement by Xiaomi
Also, your comment is kinda tech illiterate, because even when the THEORETICAL limit is 300Mbps that's theoretical and ideal conditions.
Yes, I want speeds over 300Mbps (which in best will translate into 30MB/s speeds) to transfer files wirelessly over my LAN or to browse with my 600Mb FTTH connection.
srgperez said:
Why you defend the undefendable?
The "****ty" mediatek from the 2015s Redmi Note 2 already allowed Wifi AC
The Snapdragon 625 also can handle it, so this is another ****ty movement by Xiaomi
Also, your comment is kinda tech illiterate, because even when the THEORETICAL limit is 300Mbps that's theoretical and ideal conditions.
Yes, I want speeds over 300Mbps (which in best will translate into 30MB/s speeds) to transfer files wirelessly over my LAN or to browse with my 600Mb FTTH connection.
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So, if you need 802.11ac and speeds over 300 Mbps, don't buy this phone. It's as simple as that.
BubuXP said:
So, if you need 802.11ac and speeds over 300 Mbps, don't buy this phone. It's as simple as that.
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It happens that I want a pure Andoird Phone sub 200$ with less than a TV for screen, so yes, this phone is capable of more than that's offering, which doesn't prevents me from being critical.
u363840 said:
Hi,
it's all in the title, many websites announced it provides 802.11ac (since it's the same 625 chip it would make sense) while the official spec doesn't, so, does it ?
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I think this phone can support wifi ac but you need to unlock bootloader and install custom rom to unlock dual band. I'm using redmi note 4 also have no wifi ac in spec sheet and also not available when scanning for 5ghz but after installing custom rom it is available.5ghz band is available in the chip but xiaomi locked 5ghz just to reduce the price of the device to avoid paying technology from qualcomm. I will buy this phone next week and i will give you guys feedback after using custom roms.for me why i need dual band wifi is because i'm using public wifi alot! So thats why i need a choice to avoid traffic which normally people just connects to 2.4ghz and less in 5ghz
Which rom you used for redmi note 4? Thanks
Tetelur said:
I think this phone can support wifi ac but you need to unlock bootloader and install custom rom to unlock dual band. I'm using redmi note 4 also have no wifi ac in spec sheet and also not available when scanning for 5ghz but after installing custom rom it is available.5ghz band is available in the chip but xiaomi locked 5ghz just to reduce the price of the device to avoid paying technology from qualcomm. I will buy this phone next week and i will give you guys feedback after using custom roms.for me why i need dual band wifi is because i'm using public wifi alot! So thats why i need a choice to avoid traffic which normally people just connects to 2.4ghz and less in 5ghz
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I have also the redmi note 4 and I need the dual band, so the question about the rom you used. thks
novreisc said:
I have also the redmi note 4 and I need the dual band, so the question about the rom you used. thks
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theres wifi bonding module, rum 2.5ghz and 5ghz at 40mhz, should be satifactory. on some MTK solution AP it shows 300mbps link speed
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I've stumbled across a number of postings that mentioned people get a maximum throughput of 65Mbps with the Wifi N mode on the Desire. That would make sense as it likely only utilizes 2.4GHz with limited internal antenna capabilities.
What it also means is that 802.11n is pretty pointless compared to 802.11g which already provides data rates of 54Mbps, and reportedly consumes less battery power.
It was also reported that the official Froyo release already activated 802.11n mode, which would make further modifications unnecessary.
My questions in the interest of throwing anything related to 802.11n out of the ROM:
1) does Froyo indeed include N support? (I don't have a N router and can not test it)
2) is N indeed limited to a max data rate of only 65 Mbps on the Desire?
Thanks for reading and hopefully feedback
Mac
I have an 802.11n router and gets a max of only 65 mbps transfer rate using Froyo. I have since disabled N support on my Desire to save some batt life.
Using Pays Froyo 1.9 with enabled N and connecting up to 72Mb/s.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
mmaacc said:
I've stumbled across a number of postings that mentioned people get a maximum throughput of 65Mbps with the Wifi N mode on the Desire. That would make sense as it likely only utilizes 2.4GHz with limited internal antenna capabilities.
What it also means is that 802.11n is pretty pointless compared to 802.11g which already provides data rates of 54Mbps, and reportedly consumes less battery power.
It was also reported that the official Froyo release already activated 802.11n mode, which would make further modifications unnecessary.
My questions in the interest of throwing anything related to 802.11n out of the ROM:
1) does Froyo indeed include N support? (I don't have a N router and can not test it)
2) is N indeed limited to a max data rate of only 65 Mbps on the Desire?
Thanks for reading and hopefully feedback
Mac
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Not sure about anyone else, but with 802.11g the phone will connect at roughly half signal to my router, speeds of about 20-25mbps, when i connect via 802.11n the signal is much better and it connect at full 65mbps, though yeah i never get above 65mbps, i think this has to do with the antenna arangement, 802.11n had 3 antennas, and i think the desire only has 1 so the total speed is limited
i´m more interrested in the speed you transfer with on the diffrent modes since i get less than 20Mbit with G from local to local.. and i wonder if i sould invest in N ? does it give higher transferrates ? eg the speed of the filetransfer between comps..
sorry to ask
sorry to ask a noob question, but where again do you check to see the speed of your wireless, I did it once but can't remember how.
Phone *#*#4636#*#*. As to higher WiFi N speeds. We won't get higher speeds that 65-72Mbps because WiFi N mostly operates on the 5GHz band.
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Phone *#*#4636#*#*. As to higher WiFi N speeds. We won't get higher speeds that 65-72Mbps because WiFi N mostly operates on the 5GHz band.
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Thank you.
amf said:
I have an 802.11n router and gets a max of only 65 mbps transfer rate using Froyo. I have since disabled N support on my Desire to save some batt life.
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How did you disable N support on the Desire?
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Phone *#*#4636#*#*. As to higher WiFi N speeds. We won't get higher speeds that 65-72Mbps because WiFi N mostly operates on the 5GHz band.
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what a brainfuck 802.11 works with up to 600mbps at 2.4 ghz like on 5 ghz
. i wrote exams about wifi.
i bet the desire uses 1 antenna so it can get a max of 150mbps symbol rate.
but i think it uses a channel bandwidth of 20 mhz instead of 40 mhz so it is limited to the half of 150!!!
Well im currently connected at 72 using LeeDroid
lollylost100 said:
Phone *#*#4636#*#*. As to higher WiFi N speeds. We won't get higher speeds that 65-72Mbps because WiFi N mostly operates on the 5GHz band.
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ye this just shows your connected speed..
to get the actual speed you need to transfer a file between computers locally.
those 2 speeds vary alot since it depends on noise and interferrence and loss.
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what a brainfuck 802.11 works with up to 600mbps at 2.4 ghz like on 5 ghz
. i wrote exams about wifi.
i bet the desire uses 1 antenna so it can get a max of 150mbps symbol rate.
but i think it uses a channel bandwidth of 20 mhz instead of 40 mhz so it is limited to the half of 150!!!
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Souns like that could be the reason..
Murd0ck said:
ye this just shows your connected speed..
to get the actual speed you need to transfer a file between computers locally.
those 2 speeds vary alot since it depends on noise and interferrence and loss.
Souns like that could be the reason..
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the max payload data rate is 40 % of the symbol data rate
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what a brainfuck 802.11 works with up to 600mbps at 2.4 ghz like on 5 ghz
. i wrote exams about wifi.
i bet the desire uses 1 antenna so it can get a max of 150mbps symbol rate.
but i think it uses a channel bandwidth of 20 mhz instead of 40 mhz so it is limited to the half of 150!!!
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OK, that explains it. So we have a physical limit here for the throughput.
How about the better signal strength for N? This may be the result of the coding scheme. And more importantly, does the stock Froyo already provide 802.11n, so we could get rid of all the firmware and module hacks?
Bongmaster is right, you have different speeds for wireless N devices.
The desire is 1T1R (1 transmitter 1 receiver), and therefore can only only get 150mbps as a max theoretical speed. 2T2R is required for 300mbps operation.
However as mentioned, this only works with 40mhz channel bandwidth, 20mhz will cut it in half again.
Can someone force 40mhz channel bandwidth on their router and post results? Most Wireless N routers seem to come with 20mhz as the default setting.
Let me bump this again, there is one important question that was not answered yet:
Does the stock Froyo release (OTA) support Wifi 802.11n or not? I can not test it as I don't have access to a N router.
Thanks!
Everything I have read says yes.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
mmaacc said:
Let me bump this again, there is one important question that was not answered yet:
Does the stock Froyo release (OTA) support Wifi 802.11n or not? I can not test it as I don't have access to a N router.
Thanks!
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+1 need to know also.
BUMP.
eXDee said:
Bongmaster is right, you have different speeds for wireless N devices.
The desire is 1T1R (1 transmitter 1 receiver), and therefore can only only get 150mbps as a max theoretical speed. 2T2R is required for 300mbps operation.
However as mentioned, this only works with 40mhz channel bandwidth, 20mhz will cut it in half again.
Can someone force 40mhz channel bandwidth on their router and post results? Most Wireless N routers seem to come with 20mhz as the default setting.
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I did this and it made no difference, 72Mbps was the maximum it showed.
To be honest, I'm not sure the Desire is even capable of handling anywhere near this speed anyway. When connected to my home wireless at this speed, the actually download speed I get via speedtest.net is somewhere around 15-20Mbps and I have a 50Mbit connection.
Don't know what's up with all yours but mine is running at 425.9 MBPS.. IT is lightening fast, much faster than my 128mbps stick.
the actually download speed I get via speedtest.net is somewhere around 15-20Mbps and I have a 50Mbit connection.
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That's all your getting from your ISP then when you tested, try it again at 2am or something when there's less people in your area sharing your bandwidth.
Like the title says, does anyone know for sure if the 900 supports 802.11n over 5ghz instead of 2.4ghz? been searching and i can't seem to find anything.
Thanks in advance
simbadogg said:
Like the title says, does anyone know for sure if the 900 supports 802.11n over 5ghz instead of 2.4ghz? been searching and i can't seem to find anything.
Thanks in advance
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it does not. Samsung focus s did. The hd7, lumia 710 and 900 do not.
I can confirm. My Focus S saw and connected to my 5Ghz wireless with no problems.
The Lumia 900 doesn''t even 'see' it.
Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
Just curious, not judging or questioning your need.
hx4700 Killer said:
Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
Just curious, not judging or questioning your need.
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for me , I just want to connect with what's available. But I have the same type of question around camera quality..why do you expect voque quality pics from from a phone camera placed in your pocket.
Your question to the wireless gave tme the perspective for the camera!
hx4700 Killer said:
Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
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I assume you're asking why would I need a 5GHz connection and not a 2.4GHz connection: both can be 802.11n.
The reason is simple in my case. From various spots in my apartment, there's upwards of 25 different wireless connections on the 2.4GHz band. There's zero on the 5GHz band. If I'm connected on 2.4GHz, I'm lucky to get a signal 20 feet from my router.
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I assume you're asking why would I need a 5GHz connection and not a 2.4GHz connection: both can be 802.11n.
The reason is simple in my case. From various spots in my apartment, there's upwards of 25 different wireless connections on the 2.4GHz band. There's zero on the 5GHz band. If I'm connected on 2.4GHz, I'm lucky to get a signal 20 feet from my router.
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No, I am asking what the benefit of a potential 300MB(N) connection VS 10MB(B) or 54MB(G) to a cell phone would be considering most home internet is in the 1MB to 10MB range.
So essentially, what does one need a 300MB connection to their cell phone?
However, in your case I assume you only have N on the 2.4G band and no B or G ?
hx4700 Killer said:
No, I am asking what the benefit of a potential 300MB(N) connection VS 10MB(B) or 54MB(G) to a cell phone would be considering most home internet is in the 1MB to 10MB range.
So essentially, what does one need a 300MB connection to their cell phone?
However, in your case I assume you only have N on the 2.4G band and no B or G ?
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I think it could be useful if you do the "Wireless Sync" option with Zune. 300MB/s internal network speeds would make wireless syncing a lot faster.
But now that I think about it - since wireless syncing usually happens at night, while you're asleep, and your phone is charging... super fast speeds probably aren't need anyway.
Hi,
Just wondering what the best wireless connection people have made with the HOX.
With my current router i just get 65mbps, but only when i am right next to the router.
I was thinking of getting a wireless router one of those 450Mbps 2.4/5.0Ghz.
Does the Hox even support the 5.0Ghz band?
thanks
No it doesnt accept the 5ghz frequency unfortunately.
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No it doesnt accept the 5ghz frequency unfortunately.
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The HTX One X does have a dual band radio, so yes it can use either 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz. As for max speeds on most mobile devices these won't be great because of a few reasons like single antenna and power saving.
Having said that in the advanced wireless settings you can enable a setting for better wireless performance but it does warn that this will suck much more battery life. I haven't played with this myself but it may be worth trying to see what it does for you.
Good luck.
Hello,
I have just switched fiber provider at my place (FTTH) and I am now getting a whopping 1000 Mbps on my connection via gigabit ethernet.
My ISPs internet "box" luckily comes with 4 gigabit ports but only 2.4 Ghz WiFi (...). Which means that what actually reaches my portable devices is somewhere between 20 to 70 mbps, depending on my location in the house.
So, I ordered a Netgear R6220 to connect to my ISPs box, whose WiFi I will disable, hoping to get the most out of my fiber connection.
I see that this router supports simultenous Dual Band (300 + 867) which should exceed my ISPs downstream bitrate. But I wonder whether the 835 on my P2XL will be able to benefit from the simultaneous Dual Band transmission.
According to the specs it should (https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-835-mobile-platform):
Wi-Fi
Wi-Fi Standards: 802.11ad, 802.11ac Wave 2, 802.11a/b/g, 802.11n
Wi-Fi Spectral Bands: 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, 60 GHz
Peak speed: 867 Mbps
Channel Utilization: 20/40/80 MHz
MIMO Configuration: 2x2 (2-stream)
Peak QAM: 256 QAM
Wi-Fi Features: MU-MIMO, Multi-gigabit Wi-Fi, Dual-band simultaneous (DBS), Integrated baseband
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But since the Peak speed is listed as 867 mbps, I'm not sure...
Anyone was ever able to max out the P2XLs WiFi speed?
Thanks!
This is mine today, I have seen higher from my wifi but this is right now.
This is the best speed i got using the 2XL
1Gbit line using a Asus RT-AX88U router.
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This is the best speed i got using the 2XL
1Gbit line using a Asus RT-AX88U router.
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Wow, this is impressive! I didn't think our Pixels could reach that level of performance!
I guess that the bottleneck for me will still be on the router, then, since I'm not getting anything quite like yours (smaller budget).
I'm getting from Amazon an R6220 and a couple of Tp Links (archer c7 - 1750 and archer c1200), the best one gets to stay! ?
You should be able to reach decent speeds with any of those routers the only reason I bought this one is so i don't need to buy another rooter any time soon.
https://amplifi.com/
There you can find fast access point for low price with high quality, I use only these
Is this max network speed for a70?
This is screenshoot form wifi settings.
On other phones i get 130mbps.
mine says 65. Ultra slow downloads. Heard some people talkin about using the 5 Ghz band of certain equipped routers or n band. It is just so slow downloading from my wlan I figured it must have something greater wrong with it. Like hackers again...who knows.
This is what mine says
On mine is 72mbps network speed and cant get over 49mbps download speeed on speedtest.net
433Mpbs on 802.11AC for me
I get a picture 130 mbps on my oreo device but both pie devices say 65 mBps.
My 1000/100/10 switch connects ethernet to various devices which easily shuttle the expected 80-130 actual MB/s around of large filetypes.
I don't have any sort of 5 Ghz router just the crappy device that the company sent out. And on that the MAC filter keeps getting disabled which increases my paranoia. Till 2 weeks ago I used the same crappy standard gateway/router for 6 years and frankly it was equal or better experience. At least that one started up reasonably fast. And its MAC filter was always on. But that could just indicate that the neighborhood brats had an easy backdoor to that one and didn't have to brute force off the MAC filter.
In my opinion the MAC filter getting disabled (now a few different times it has happened) indicatives a much much larger problem
I have been intending to get my own personal router for a while but there are too many options so I haven't had the scope to choose one yet.
Other phone in network displays 117mbps and is a Pie.
On same network 2.4ghz on s8,s7 i get 130mbps and on a70 72mbps max.
Just tried 5ghz on same network and got 150mbps it is a little faster.
But on 2.4ghz 72mbps is max.
hi guys
i have also same problem . cannot connect more than 72mbps , with 5ghz 150mbps max . something wrong but i could not find what is the problem .
you guys found any solution ?
mine has 72mb on 2.4 and 433mb on 5g...
Tactman said:
mine has 72mb on 2.4 and 433mb on 5g...
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i think all a70 phones are like that
I just tested and got 158Mbs with a 5Ghz wifi connection, although only around 60Mps on 2.4Ghz.
Andre
I'll check mine later and see if I can figure out what's happening
Right next to the router I can see 96mbps in 2.4Ghz
Must be something wrong. I got 433mbps.
Nothing is wrong.
The Snapdragon 675 supports 2x2 chains on WiFi, but the A70 only has a 1x1 antenna so it connects at half the speed.
Link speeds on the A70 are as follows:
2.4 GHz = 72 Mbps
2.4 GHz (with 256 QAM) = 96 Mbps
5 GHz = 433 Mbps
On all devices with 2x2 on WiFi, the speeds above will be doubled on those.
These are in ideal network conditions with great signal strength and low interference. These numbers could reduce if you are far from the router.
This is not abnormal. A lot of mid-range devices only have 1x1 for WiFi.