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[Q] [Pre-Purchase] Find 7a bluetooth, battery, storage and ROMs

I am really tempted by the Find 7a, it looks decent on paper but I am reading a lot of things that are putting me off, can owners comment on their severity or if they are indeed problems?
Bluetooth - lots of reports that it is flaky. I can't live with this. I need a solid handsfree connection in the car, and preferably solid audio out too. Is this a software problem or did they put crappy hardware in it?
Battery - plenty saying the battery drains like 30% overnight in standby. This is not good. Is it resolved in Color OS 2.x beta? Any better in CM?
Storage - oh man. Why did they do that? Way to cripple a phone.
ROMs - I know they are pretty open with an unlocked bootloader but I am not seeing much in the way of ROM development. It's pretty quiet over here and their forums aren't exactly buzzing with developers.
How is the state of CM11 on the 7a? Does it fix any of the issues mentioned above?
Any general comments on the handset? Is it worth the punt or in that price range better to go for something more established like a Nexus 5 or LG G2?
Thanks
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I think I can answer all your questions as I'm involved with parts of the 7a third party development myself.
First off, the hardware is fine and top notch, all the things you read about are in software and resolved by installing nameless ROM (all of the things you mentioned).
The battery depletion overnight (8 hours) is about 3 to 4 percent on nameless ROM with Wi-Fi and 3g permanently on and NFC off.
The storage issue can be resolved by executing my partition tool which you can find on the official oppo forums together with the nameless ROM download.
As for your intention of using cm11, I would stay away from it, it takes forever to get things fixed on that and some things are still glitched on it.
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MrColdbird said:
I think I can answer all your questions as I'm involved with parts of the 7a third party development myself.
First off, the hardware is fine and top notch, all the things you read about are in software and resolved by installing nameless ROM (all of the things you mentioned).
The battery depletion overnight (8 hours) is about 3 to 4 percent on nameless ROM with Wi-Fi and 3g permanently on and NFC off.
The storage issue can be resolved by executing my partition tool which you can find on the official oppo forums together with the nameless ROM download.
As for your intention of using cm11, I would stay away from it, it takes forever to get things fixed on that and some things are still glitched on it.
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Thanks @MrColdbird that is really useful info. Good to know the hardware isn't at fault.
Nameless ROM looks great and good to see some solutions to the crazy partitioning scheme. I assume you guys will be releasing Nameless for the OnePlus One too?! The One seems to have a minor hardware upgrade compared to the Find 7.
One last thing, I know it is personal preference but how do you find the size of the device, there is no getting away from the fact that it is pretty huge...?
Agreed about CM11 - they seem really slow at fixing things these days, perhaps they are trying to support too many devices and spreading themselves too thinly. They seem to fix one thing and break about a dozen more with each M release.

Are Android Nougat 7.0 custom roms impossible for our devices?

Is this more of thing for OEM companies not going to update their snapdragon 800/801 to nougat (not that I would expect any of these older devices with this soc to get updated anyway), or is this something that any developer won't be able to get around?

Supposedly those using CM13 are already stuck at KitKat level Drivers. Or at least that's what I've been told in a different Thread. So the imedimmediate thought is that it might be possible to get 'round it, in a similar fashion. But, I gather it's still not fully known just what kinda hit the Device would take, given the lack of unoptimized Drivers.
AFAIK: Qualcomm have had their hands tied as the MSM8974 (i.e. Snapdragon 800), does not, and will never support the Vulkan API, which is now being fully enforced by Google as the baseline for Nougat compatibility. Since this is more of a MSM8974 thing, and not an OEM thing, there will be a lot of unhappy people with far better supported Devices then ours. Who will be left in the cold by this decision.
But, it's early days yet, and I'm not even sure how far Cyanogen has even gotten with it?
Honestly I wouldn't even expect anything from them too the early days of 2017 at the earliest.

lolwatpear said:
Is this more of thing for OEM companies not going to update their snapdragon 800/801 to nougat (not that I would expect any of these older devices with this soc to get updated anyway), or is this something that any developer won't be able to get around?
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Crpalmer is working on CM14 So you should get the N flavor very soon.

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I managed to build CM14 for the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (Mondrianwifi).
Camera and bluetooth are not working, everything else seems fine.
If someone wants to try it:
https://mega.nz/#!GA5m2DjR!dhAepnUJKco0KH6hKph2NJ73DefZMJPZCNFEnYaVuUk

Lol everybods is asking about android 7 but when @jmga manages to compile a pritty good build nobody seems to care

I'm just waiting for the Tab Pro 10.1, but great that 8.4 seems to be working.

jmga said:
I managed to build CM14 for the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (Mondrianwifi).
Camera and bluetooth are not working, everything else seems fine.
If someone wants to try it:
https://mega.nz/#!GA5m2DjR!dhAepnUJKco0KH6hKph2NJ73DefZMJPZCNFEnYaVuUk
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Have you tested camera with Google Camera or Open Camera? I've seen other CM14 ROMs where camera only worked with one of those camera applications.

jrc2 said:
Have you tested camera with Google Camera or Open Camera? I've seen other CM14 ROMs where camera only worked with one of those camera applications.
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I just tested Open Camera and it isn't working.

jmga said:
I just tested Open Camera and it isn't working.
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Could you give this guy some help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ndrianwifi-t3467599/post68829496#post68829496

lolwatpear said:
Could you give this guy some help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ndrianwifi-t3467599/post68829496#post68829496
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Sure!

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Mi 8SE Kernel source code officially released!!!

Is time for cook to look in to this for Mi 8SE.
https://en.miui.com/thread-3538101-1-1.html
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/sirius-o-oss

i wish mi 8 had one also

20th June
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/mi-8se-kernel-sources-released-t3806746

ZhenMing said:
Is time for cook to look in to this for Mi 8SE.
https://en.miui.com/thread-3538101-1-1.html
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/sirius-o-oss
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Suxter said:
20th June
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/mi-8se-kernel-sources-released-t3806746
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Oops. Did not know it was an old news as the MIUI website thread was written few days before.
Since it was there for 2 months, how come no experience cook interested to build one or port other ROM for Mi 8SE?

ZhenMing said:
Oops. Did not know it was an old news as the MIUI website thread was written few days before.
Since it was there for 2 months, how come no experience cook interested to build one or port other ROM for Mi 8SE?
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Yea I also wonder... Its a pretty good phone ?

balazs312 said:
Yea I also wonder... Its a pretty good phone ?
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Look like we had to wait for some time before it picked by an experience cook to produced any custom ROM for us.
Or maybe they are waiting for the Android pie source code before spark the stove?
Hmm...

What does this mean? Why is there no MI 8 custom ROMs yet? Am getting worried that this phone will have lack of support... did I mistakenly buy this device thinking there will be great support for Custom ROM?

krugerbud said:
What does this mean? Why is there no MI 8 custom ROMs yet? Am getting worried that this phone will have lack of support... did I mistakenly buy this device thinking there will be great support for Custom ROM?
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I dont think mi 8 source code is out. Hopefully it comes out soon. I was hoping for a decent amount of third party roms and mods with this device. Going from a Oneplus device to xiaomi there is much less than the OP6 had in the first week of it coming out

Interesting.. The kernel source pointed out that this phone uses EAS instead of the archaic SMP. Battery life must be superb. Thinking to pick one up.

fzhadi said:
Interesting.. The kernel source pointed out that this phone uses EAS instead of the archaic SMP. Battery life must be superb. Thinking to pick one up.
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It definitely helps with the general smoothness, it's the qcom version of EAS which comes with SD710 if I'm not mistaken. Both the Mi 8 SE and Mi 8 have it so you can't do wrong with anyone of them and the SE is currently the absolute best at the sub-300 Euro price point.

What is the GPU frequency.?I think we can overclock both CPU and GPU.Qualcomm has undercloced the soc otherwise it will beat SD 835

I know I'm no dev but my take on future custom ROM is because pie have better support for notched screens and also current lineage os is not compatible with notched screens phones atm. I will stay patient for a pie release

[Discussion] Missing (on purpose) 1/32s shutter speed (Global/EU version)

It's been like that since the first A10 update on February, (I'm global version)I'm on V11.0.14.0 now and it's has yet to be fixed, it's really starting to annoy me as I used to use that feature almost everyday, but it seems that Xiaomi is doing that on purpose, even the EU update has this bug now, people have been reporting ever since the first A10 update on February but they still released the EU update without fixing it (because they really don't want to), so I starting to think that we should make a petition on change.org or something because I've never seen such a bad customer service/development team from any other company in my life, I think it's just because this is stock Android not MIUI. I've been using the Feedback app since the first day they released it but i didn't get any response regarding this issue, doubt they check those reports, I had hopes that this was a bug it looks like it's a feature for people with Stock Android, so they can sell more MIUI phones.
Any thoughts?
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I've lost any faith in Xiaomi support and customer service. I can confirm that, as European consumer, I've never seen a company ignoring their userbase as Xiaomi. I'm more disappointed as I was using Xiaomi phones and devices for years and now I feel like they're totally betraying their customers. No petition will change this attitude and they confirmed it, since they say that they make money through software and ads and not with the hardware.
Best way to use the A series is using a custom rom: until now I feel that Pixel Experience builds on A2 lite and A3 are way better than stock roms.

In customs roms and in the global version they are also lost and in all apps, not only the stock camera, they leave us 1/4 or at most 1 / 3s of exposure time, this problem I have seen in all roms whose base or vendor is 10, even in many gcam, except some, that if they manage to jump the exposure time limit, which makes me think that it is something that is in the vendor of the new update, in the global rom It has been reported since the first failed updates, the 48Mpx have also disappeared in the Open Camera, Android 10 has been a disaster for the cameras and apparently it is the intention of Xiaomi the limitation because if they had not corrected it a while ago.
I think the custom roms should all be done again with vendor 9 as the base, instead of vendor 10, since these limitations are absurd, or in any case find the solution.

Should be fixed with the upcoming May security patch updates as some users have been reporting.

Customs ROMs needed for black shark 3

Hi Developers, how are you doing ? I wish you can make ROMs for black shark phones, because the company has forgotten that they have a line called Black shark!
Joyui 11 MP3 is full of bugs and security patch is 05-06-2020!!

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Hi Developers, how are you doing ? I wish you can make ROMs for black shark phones, because the company has forgotten that they have a line called Black shark!
Joyui 11 MP3 is full of bugs and security patch is 05-06-2020!!
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They would love to but without the kernel source, it wont be possible.
Bs3 users need to unite and oblige Blackshark to released this expensive phone's kernel sources. Their firmwares are buggy, inconsistent OTA updates, outdated security patches. Seriously if Blackshark's Dev team CANT COMPLY to the user needs, they shouldn't consider releasing any phones at all. Or if they really decided to abandoned a device development after selling lots of units to the world, atleast leave your consumers with the kernel source so the community can make the best out of their crappy promises devices esp if its $500+ devices
This a a complete deception, greediness, lack of responsibility, false promises, all out lies to the consumers/world. I guess that's typically Chinese for you?
They should be sued because maybe they dont want you to change their phone's software maybe because it's their means of spying in your countries. They sold us the hardware and they want full control on the software level for those hardware switches which makes sense. It's like hitting 4 targets with just one stone which is very clever indeed. China prolly will rule the world in 10 years from now .
I regret buying this phone and when anyone ask me for recommendations, i will say "NEVER BUY A BLACKSHARK PHONE"

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It means the Joyui 12 global coming to Black Shark 3 next month. But I guess custom roms would be better! I wish we could had the kernel source !

one of my biggest mistake in 2020 was to buy this garbage phone, a $600 phone that can't even play netflix HD.

JohnBillyHill said:
one of my biggest mistake in 2020 was to buy this garbage phone, a $600 phone that can't even play netflix HD.
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Agreed. And no NFC, either. This probably isn't the worst phone I've ever owned, but it's not too far off, and it's not really an upgrade from my previous phone, the Mate 20X. This has at least as many software issues as that phone, but overall lower quality software and hardware, I'd say. It's a gimmick phone, not a great phone

amazighmed said:
It means the Joyui 12 global coming to Black Shark 3 next month. But I guess custom roms would be better! I wish we could had the kernel source !
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Next month not coming bro
Support is dead