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[Q] Pro 8.4 vs S 8.4. Worth the price difference?

I'm looking to buy 8.4 inch tablet. From what I read, both are very good tablet. The difference of price here is about 70 AUD.
I don't really care about AMOLED vs LCD- both are fine.
I'll most probably run it on custom ROM. Tab Pro already has official CM support and established community. I'm not sure about Tab S, it's is too early to tell at this stage. I also notice Tab S is slightly thinner and lighter. Tab S runs on 3GB ram compared to 2GB of Tab Pro.
Probably you guys can give an opinion whether the price difference is worth it. Is there any other factor that makes one better than the other?

You have pretty much listed the differences, so it's just a matter of if you wish to save the $70.
Fingerprint scanner, thinner, lighter, AMOLED screen, extra Gb of Ram are the main differences.
If you plan to consume media, like watch TV/Movies/YouTube etc than the AMOLED screen is likely better for battery life, but if you mainly surf the web, than the LCD screen uses less battery.
As for CM11, the Tab Pro is only supported on the 4G Qualcomm Snapdragon version, technically the Exynos 5 Wifi version isn't supported officially.
The Tab S is currently getting a user made Exynos 5 version of CM11.
Good luck with you decision.

Freakstyler said:
You have pretty much listed the differences, so it's just a matter of if you wish to save the $70.
Fingerprint scanner, thinner, lighter, AMOLED screen, extra Gb of Ram are the main differences.
If you plan to consume media, like watch TV/Movies/YouTube etc than the AMOLED screen is likely better for battery life, but if you mainly surf the web, than the LCD screen uses less battery.
As for CM11, the Tab Pro is only supported on the 4G Qualcomm Snapdragon version, technically the Exynos 5 Wifi version isn't supported officially.
The Tab S is currently getting a user made Exynos 5 version of CM11.
Good luck with you decision.
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Which one can I make phone calls from the tablet itself? I know I will need the 4G version. But I heard a rumor that one of these you can use as an actual cell phone without sidesync

both got LTE version and can make call... how do i know? i owned both.

edan1979 said:
both got LTE version and can make call... how do i know? i owned both.
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I wonder if both have 1x antenna since United states (where I am) uses 1x to make voice calls. This is good info I will do more research.

Freakstyler said:
As for CM11, the Tab Pro is only supported on the 4G Qualcomm Snapdragon version, technically the Exynos 5 Wifi version isn't supported officially.
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Do you know how can I tell the difference (before I buy) between those two version? Do they have different version code? All I know is the one officially supported is the WiFi version

Does the Tab S 8.4 suffer from the same wifi singal issue as the Pro 8.4? If you hold the bottom left of tablet in portrait mode or bottom right in landscape mode, wifi signal drops down very low and may even disconnect.
I just got a Tab Pro 8.4 and it does this, there is a thread in that forum where many others have the same exact issues. If Tab S solves this problem that along may make it worth it.

Raistlin1 said:
Does the Tab S 8.4 suffer from the same wifi singal issue as the Pro 8.4? If you hold the bottom left of tablet in portrait mode or bottom right in landscape mode, wifi signal drops down very low and may even disconnect.
I just got a Tab Pro 8.4 and it does this, there is a thread in that forum where many others have the same exact issues. If Tab S solves this problem that along may make it worth it.
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I had the pro 8.4 for a short while and I can confirm that the tab s 8.4 does not suffer with the same wifi problem. They have relocated the wifi antennae to a different part of the tab s.
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to me its simple. if i were a person that gets a new tablet every 6 months to 1 year then i get the whatever but if i am a person that is closer to 2+ years then i get the best i can afford at the time.

fletch33 said:
to me its simple. if i were a person that gets a new tablet every 6 months to 1 year then i get the whatever but if i am a person that is closer to 2+ years then i get the best i can afford at the time.
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The thing is, no device absolutely best another
More expensive doesn't always mean better
I was leaning to Tab S but I'm reconsidering my decision upon hearing that Tab Pro 8.4 might get better dev support due to Qualcomm SOC.
Can anyone who have tried both device or @edan1979 give your opinion whether Tab S really feels better at hand? (smaller dimension & lighter). I cannot give Tab Pro 8.4 a try because it is not available on my local store (samsung decide not to sell it here).

Only LTE version of tab pro has the qualcomm SOC.

Orphee said:
Only LTE version of tab pro has the qualcomm SOC.
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I had the non lte version of tab pro and mine had qualcomm soc.
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Prokeke said:
The thing is, no device absolutely best another
More expensive doesn't always mean better
I was leaning to Tab S but I'm reconsidering my decision upon hearing that Tab Pro 8.4 might get better dev support due to Qualcomm SOC.
Can anyone who have tried both device or @edan1979 give your opinion whether Tab S really feels better at hand? (smaller dimension & lighter). I cannot give Tab Pro 8.4 a try because it is not available on my local store (samsung decide not to sell it here).
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i agree and that is why i said "best i can afford" not most expensive.
i own the 10.1 Pro and 10.5 S because i bought the Pro when it came out and then m,ade the mistake of playing around with the Tab S. not surfe about the 8.4 but the overall feel, smoothness of OS, (big one here) USB port on side and not bottom, and 3GB ram made it a no brainer to move up to S and glad i did. so with 10.1 to 10.5 i dont regret the extra cash at all.

Prokeke said:
The thing is, no device absolutely best another
More expensive doesn't always mean better
I was leaning to Tab S but I'm reconsidering my decision upon hearing that Tab Pro 8.4 might get better dev support due to Qualcomm SOC.
Can anyone who have tried both device or @edan1979 give your opinion whether Tab S really feels better at hand? (smaller dimension & lighter). I cannot give Tab Pro 8.4 a try because it is not available on my local store (samsung decide not to sell it here).
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Does T705 (LTE version of tab s 8.4) have qualcom soc?

device info (samsung tab s 8.4 T705)
CCJ22 said:
Does T705 (LTE version of tab s 8.4) have qualcom soc?
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this are the following info of my tab s 8.4 lte (T705)
Device information for samsung (SM-T705)
GENERAL INFORMATION
MANUFACTURER
samsung
MODEL
SM-T705
IMEI NUMBER
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
PRODUCT
klimtltexx
HARDWARE INFORMATION
BOARD
universal5420
HARDWARE
universal5420
CPU_ABI
armeabi-v7a
CPU_ABI2
armeabi
ADVANCED CPU INFO
abi: armeabi-v7a
Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)
processor : 0
BogoMIPS : 1590.88
processor : 1
BogoMIPS : 1590.88
processor : 2
BogoMIPS : 1590.88
processor : 3
BogoMIPS : 1590.88
Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x2
CPU part : 0xc0f
CPU revision : 3
Hardware : UNIVERSAL5420
Revision : 000a
Serial : 8c0f11b13204db12
STORAGE
External storage : 3,409MB / 11,834MB
OTHER INFO
Finger print : samsung/klimtltexx/klimtlte:4.4.2/KOT49H/T705XXU1ANF8:user/release-keys
Host : SWDD5909
Tags : release-keys
SOFTWARE INFORMATION
ANDROID VERSION NAME
KITKAT
ANDROID VERSION CODE
4.4.2
API LEVEL
19
BOOTLOADER
T705XXU1ANF8
ID
KOT49H
BUILD NUMBER
KOT49H.T705XXU1ANF8
NO OF INSTALLED APPS
355
NETWORK INFORMATION
NETWORK OPERATOR
I TIM
SIM OPERATOR
NETWORK TYPE
LTE
PHONE NUMBER
xxxxxxxxxxx
SIM SERIAL NUMBER
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
DISPLAY INFORMATION
SCREEN CLASS
X Large
SCREEN HEIGHT
2560 pixels
SCREEN WIDTH
1600 pixels
RESOLUTION
2560 * 1600
DENSITY CLASS
XHDPI
DENSITY (DPI)
320 dpi
BATTERY INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY
Li-ion
VOLTAGE
3755
TEMPERATURE
35° c
HEALTH
Good
CHARGING STATUS
Discharging
LAST CHARGING SOURCE
Usb
LEVEL
64
SENSORS INFORMATION
SENSORS
BMI055 Accelerometer Sensor
Type: TYPE_ACCELEROMETER
Vendor: Bosch Sensortec
Version: 1
Resolution: 0.038307227
Max Range: 19.6133
Power: 0.25
BMI055 Gyroscope Sensor
Type: TYPE_GYROSCOPE
Vendor: Bosch Sensortec
Version: 1
Resolution: 2.663161E-4
Max Range: 8.726646
Power: 6.1
AK09911C Magnetic field Sensor
Type: TYPE_MAGNETIC_FIELD
Vendor: Asahi Kasei Microdevices
Version: 1
Resolution: 0.06
Max Range: 2000.0
Power: 6.0
AK09911C Uncalibrated Magnetic field Sensor
Type: null
Vendor: Asahi Kasei Microdevices
Version: 1
Resolution: 0.06
Max Range: 2000.0
Power: 6.0
TMD3782 Proximity Sensor
Type: TYPE_PROXIMITY
Vendor: AMS, Inc.
Version: 1
Resolution: 8.0
Max Range: 8.0
Power: 0.75
TMD3782 Light Sensor
Type: TYPE_LIGHT
Vendor: AMS, Inc.
Version: 1
Resolution: 1.0
Max Range: 65535.0
Power: 0.75
SX9500 Grip Sensor
Type: null
Vendor: SEMTECH
Version: 1
Resolution: 5.0
Max Range: 5.0
Power: 0.75
Screen Orientation Sensor
Type: null
Vendor: Samsung Electronics
Version: 2
Resolution: 0.0
Max Range: 255.0
Power: 0.0
Rotation Vector Sensor
Type: TYPE_ROTATION_VECTOR
Vendor: AOSP
Version: 3
Resolution: 5.9604645E-8
Max Range: 1.0
Power: 12.35
Gravity Sensor
Type: TYPE_GRAVITY
Vendor: AOSP
Version: 3
Resolution: 0.038307227
Max Range: 19.6133
Power: 12.35
Linear Acceleration Sensor
Type: TYPE_LINEAR_ACCELERATION
Vendor: AOSP
Version: 3
Resolution: 0.038307227
Max Range: 19.6133
Power: 12.35
Game Rotation Vector Sensor
Type: null
Vendor: Samsung Electronics
Version: 3
Resolution: 5.9604645E-8
Max Range: 1.0
Power: 6.35
Uncalibrated Gyroscope Sensor
Type: null
Vendor: Samsung Electronics
Version: 1
Resolution: 2.663161E-4
Max Range: 8.726646
Power: 12.35
Orientation Sensor
Type: TYPE_ORIENTATION
Vendor: AOSP
Version: 1
Resolution: 0.00390625
Max Range: 360.0
Power: 12.35

Ah so ARMv7 / Exynos

Prokeke said:
The thing is, no device absolutely best another
More expensive doesn't always mean better
I was leaning to Tab S but I'm reconsidering my decision upon hearing that Tab Pro 8.4 might get better dev support due to Qualcomm SOC.
Can anyone who have tried both device or @edan1979 give your opinion whether Tab S really feels better at hand? (smaller dimension & lighter). I cannot give Tab Pro 8.4 a try because it is not available on my local store (samsung decide not to sell it here).
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as for the support and my own development... yeah i love tab pro... lots of dev for it... in term of that device in general... it worth the money pay... it dont have that much different from tab s... and tab s... well this one... i got LTE exynos version but the screen blow me up since i miss my good old superamoled 7.7. sooner or later someone will take challenge to port cm or whatever to it... since i am more tw person so i dont really care... but tab s do feel better at hand... and i mostly bringing tab s with me.

Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Review

Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 smartphone – basic features:
– 5,5 inch Full HD screen
– MediaTek MT6795 Helio X10, 8 core CPU
– 2 GB RAM
– 16 GB ROM
– camera 5 MP and 13 MP
– Android 5.0.2 Lollipop + MIUI V7
– battery 4000 mAh
– dimensions 149,98 × 75,96 × 8,75mm
– weight 165 grams
– More information at Mod edit by @Darth : link leading tk selling site removed. Not on Xda please .
Design and build
Hands-on & Review
Camera Video Test
Camera photo samples
GPS
CPU-Z
Antutu Score
Anyway you can see how Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 is really great smartphone with high build quality and powerful hardware.
Long story short, if you are looking for cheap and high quality smartphone
then you should definitely consider Redmi Note 3, otherwise, just for info I bought it at shop Mod edit by @Darth : selling site mention and video removed. Not on Xda please .
Also does someone have maybe Redmi Note 3 ?
Thank you

Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 How to install multiple languages?

PetaX8 said:
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 How to install multiple languages?
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Hi,
I dont know, but I will see how to do that. Also if you find how to do that, can you share it here ?
Tnx

Why you buy the mediatek version?

at that moment was cheaper to buy.

Doogee F7 Pro powerful performance, AnTuTu score higher than HUAWEI Mate 8

Recently, LG and Samsung, released their flagship New LG G5 and Galaxy S7 / S7 edge, and announced that Antutu score are respectively more than 130000 and 110000, the price is about 700 dollars. Doogee also released its flagship product on MWC 2016. Doogee F7 F7pro, consist of 5.7 inches 2K screen, equipped with MTK latest deca-core X20 processor, 8.0 super front pixel camera, 21 pixel rear camera, combinations of built-in 4GB RAM + 32GB ROM memory , and another choice of 4GB RAM + 64GB ROM memory, running Android 6.0 system. Due to such a configuration , F7 pro Antutu score is up to 93476, while the price is only about $ 200. All in all, this’s conform to Doogee marketing strategy: to create a high-performance, cost-effective mobile phone.
Such a high score can not be separated from such a powerful Deca-core Heli X20. X20 2X2.5GHZ A7 core + 4x2.0GHZ A53 core + 4X1.4GHz core component. F7/F7 pro support Intelligent deployment, it is full of vitality when running large programs to achieve maximum performance. No need to close intelligent core to reduce power consumption. Modem consumes 70% of X10, multimedia consumes 60% of X10 .
Big RAM
Such a powerful F7/F7 pro, its CPU is not only low power consumption, performance improvement also obviously, which greatly enhances UI and gaming performance. GPU performance increase to 140% of X10's, GPU power consumption is 60% of X10. 2016 new hot game, Iron Tanks , got the most of comments is that it is always getting stuck, while playing on F7pro realized no stuck, run freely.
The general phones are 4G network LTE Cat-4, while high-profile F7/ F7 pro support LTE Cat-6 2x20 carrier aggregation 4.5G network. Download speed is more than 2 times the ordinary 4G network, up to 200 mbps per second, downloading a movie in just three minutes, browsing multiple pictures page in just 0.5 seconds. On the whole, doogee F7 has not only the top of the hardware configuration, but also the latest Android 6.0 system, so that it reaches Antutu score of more than 90000 making sense.

Thread closed.
There is an existing thread already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gen...gee-f7-claims-mtk6797-helio-x20-deca-t3273544
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Homtom HT3 Pro

Screen
Multitouch - 3 point
2.5D curved glass
Screen Type: IPS
Display Resolution:1280x720
Display Size:5.0
Screen density:320 ppi
Hardware
CPU Manufacturer:MTK
CPU Model: MT6735P
ARM Cortex-A53 64-bit quad-core processor (1.0 GHz)
ARM Mali-T720 GPU
Network
Rel. 9, Cat. 4 LTE (FDD & TDD), DC-HSPA+, TD-SCDMA, CDMA2000 1x/EVDO Rev. A, EDGE
802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0
Type: WCDMA, GSM, FDD-LTE
Band (2G): GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Band (3G): WCDMA 900/2100MHz
Band (4G): FDD-LTE 800/1800/2100/2600MHz
Camera
Front: 2 MP - interpolated to 5 MP (2560x1920)
Back: 8 MP - interpolated to 13 MP (4160x3120)
Recording Definition:720P
Sensors
Accelerometer
Proximity
Light
Storage
Ram: 2 gb
Rom: 16 gb
External max. memory supported: 128 gb (stated by official support page)
Connectivity
2 x Micro SIM card slots
1 x TF card s
1 x Micro USB
1 x 3.5mm earphone port
Battery
Battery capacity: 3000 mAh Li-Ion detachable
Talk Time: 12 hours
Standby Time: 200 hours
Operation System: Android 5.1 Lollipop
Features: OTA,GPS Navigation,Email,FM Radio,MP3 Playback,Bluetooth,Wi-Fi,Video player,Messaging etc.
Size: 145.3x73.0x9.0 mm
Released: 1q 2016
Some YouTube reviews (not my work,credits to original uploader)

Any discussion?
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Wakelock / Deep Sleep Bug HT3 PRO
Hi there
Just received my Homtom HT3 PRO and found out that this device has the same battery wakelock bug as the HT7 PRO.
Once the LED goes on, the deivce would never go into deep sleep mode.
I could disable the LED notifivation with the "Notification Light Widget" from Chris Tattersall on Playstore.
Checking the state time with CPU Spy v0.4.0, shows that the deep sleep time is now much higher and the battery life is now acceptable therefore.
However once the device is connected to the charger, the LED goes on again - the deep sleep mode would not be activated until the device will be rebooted.
Official HomTom Support answer is that they working on a update (25 July 2016).
Did someone have a better solution or found a way to solve it by custom ROM?

I apologize to the moderators for the external link.
http://www.needrom.com/category/doogee/homtom/t3-pro/

There is only one solution that worked for me....root it and delete all unnecesary bloatware that comes with factory ROM,install Xposed framework then some nice and helpfull modules as XGEL,GravityBox,Amplify etc....i warmly recommend to follow that link Cleopatra provided since here is no support for our phone in any form.
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Note 10 Lite - Processor GPU Question ?

It can be a wrong thread, but then Note 10 lite forum is not active yet - so here it goes.
I want to know is it true tht exynos GPU is always weaker as compared to snapdragon ?
i am confused between Samsung A71 & Note 10 lite and these Processors, Exynos 9810 vs Snapdragon 730
Also, in terms in selfie camera which is more powerful in below? (I think lower aperature of A70 wins which i currently use?)
32 MP, f/2.2, 26mm (wide), 1/2.8", 0.8µm OR
32 MP, f/2.0, 26mm (wide), 1/2.8", 0.8µm
Thx