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Still worth it after anti-rollback

I've been considering buying this device for ages up until recently when I discovered about the sh*t Xiaomi pulled with anti-rollback protection in the latest builds of MIUI and bricked devices:crying: .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/index-everything-anti-roll-t3816219
I know I can always flash a Custom ROM out of the box to get around this but if I have to go back to stock for any reason .I'm kinda screwed. Is this a major issue that can be avoided by flashing an AOSP Based ROM as I'm not planning on using MIUI. Otherwise it might be easier to buy a Moto G5s+ as there are Custom ROMs and less chances of bricking with an update.

There are ways to install twrp and custom roms, so it's still worth it. Just don't update your miui or downgrade.

fardeenah said:
There are ways to install twrp and custom roms, so it's still worth it. Just don't update your miui or downgrade.
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I guess another reason to use custom roms over stock. As I understand it I would have to just unlock the bootloader making a backup of MIUI after flashing twrp and flash roms as explained in https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ne-xiaomi-redmi-note-5-whyred-unlock-t3778049

You can always flash stock MIUI ROM using Mi Flash software. no need to be panic about anti rollback protection... anti rollback means you cannot downgrade to previous version but you can always flash latest available version anytime any day

minilandl said:
I've been considering buying this device for ages up until recently when I discovered about the sh*t Xiaomi pulled with anti-rollback protection in the latest builds of MIUI and bricked devices:crying: .
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It doesn't matter. You can still flash latest MIUI and custom ROMs, like always.

it is worth to upgrade to V9.6.3.0.OEIMIFD (MIUI9)

hello
i am new to this forums and my phone
is unlocking bootloader is same after anti rollback update in V9.1.6.0
i want to root my device for titanium backup and use miui for now
i watch video relating anti roll back update but still confused as how i am gonna to install custom rom in future
and rollback to miui without bricking my device
Thanks
Regards

I know, its confusing to many. You can start by checking these threads:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/faq-questions-answered-t3816185
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/index-everything-anti-roll-t3816219
I am on 9.5.19, unlocked, rooted, TWRP installed and have received update notice for 9.6.3.0, but do not want to update via OTA because will lose root, recovery (and maybe unlock?)
I believe after rooting, unlocking, and TWRP install, you need to download a version of the MIUI ROM you want without the included firmware. see here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/index-redmi-note-5-pro-miui-roms-t3816343
They dont have 9.6.3 listed so need to ask about that. Also not sure which version of ARB your phone has so you need to ask in above threads or if you have ADB installed can enter fastboot command: fastboot getvar anti

I've updated to 9.6.3 and don't see any relevant change in daily use. The bootloader is still unlocked but I've lost the changes in build prop for gcam installation. I was unrooted with no twrp (or rwrp) recovery installed

Here is firmware-less 9.6.3 version download: https://mirror.akhilnarang.me/MIUI/Global/Stable/
Taken from this post in the fw-less ROMs thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77390404&postcount=266

taco9 said:
I know, its confusing to many. You can start by checking these threads:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/faq-questions-answered-t3816185
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/index-everything-anti-roll-t3816219
I am on 9.5.19, unlocked, rooted, TWRP installed and have received update notice for 9.6.3.0, but do not want to update via OTA because will lose root, recovery (and maybe unlock?)
I believe after rooting, unlocking, and TWRP install, you need to download a version of the MIUI ROM you want without the included firmware. see here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/index-redmi-note-5-pro-miui-roms-t3816343
They dont have 9.6.3 listed so need to ask about that. Also not sure which version of ARB your phone has so you need to ask in above threads or if you have ADB installed can enter fastboot command: fastboot getvar anti
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My RN5 Pro is unlocked, with twrp, magisk (rooted), and running MIUI 9.5.19. Xiaomi gave me 9.6.3 last night, and although I wasn't able to install the delta update that they gave me (twrp didn't do anything with it), after the reboot, it downloaded the full 9.6.3 ROM. I then told it to do the update and twrp successfully installed it. At that point, I ONLY lost twrp and I assume magisk. The bootloader was unaffected by the MIUI upgrade.
Easy enough to fix - boot to fastboot, and used 'fastboot boot twrp.img' to get the phone started in twrp recovery mode. Then I was able to use twrp to install itself permanently/properly into the recovery partition, install lazyflasher, flash magisk, reboot normal. Phone's back to rooting state using magisk, but now with MIUI 9.6.3. 5 minutes and done.

taco9 said:
I know, its confusing to many. You can start by checking these threads:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/faq-questions-answered-t3816185
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/index-everything-anti-roll-t3816219
I am on 9.5.19, unlocked, rooted, TWRP installed and have received update notice for 9.6.3.0, but do not want to update via OTA because will lose root, recovery (and maybe unlock?)
I believe after rooting, unlocking, and TWRP install, you need to download a version of the MIUI ROM you want without the included firmware. see here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/index-redmi-note-5-pro-miui-roms-t3816343
They dont have 9.6.3 listed so need to ask about that. Also not sure which version of ARB your phone has so you need to ask in above threads or if you have ADB installed can enter fastboot command: fastboot getvar anti
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ok thanks for helping

tajima69 said:
I've updated to 9.6.3 and don't see any relevant change in daily use. The bootloader is still unlocked but I've lost the changes in build prop for gcam installation. I was unrooted with no twrp (or rwrp) recovery installed
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sorry what did you meant by build prop for gcam installation

tajima69 said:
I've updated to 9.6.3 and don't see any relevant change in daily use. The bootloader is still unlocked but I've lost the changes in build prop for gcam installation. I was unrooted with no twrp (or rwrp) recovery installed
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No change ?? Let me listout some changes for you
1. New VoLTE icon
2. In lockscreen time and date displays in centre
3. Messaging app suggest new plan offer and etc (AI reply)
4. Updated security patch
5. Imporved Battery life
6. New Ringtone and notification sounds

Cannot boot twtp.img
After Installing update gcam was not workig so i was in fastboot and i put command fastboot boot twtp.img but it is stucked in downloading boot.img

tajima69 said:
I've updated to 9.6.3 and don't see any relevant change in daily use. The bootloader is still unlocked but I've lost the changes in build prop for gcam installation. I was unrooted with no twrp (or rwrp) recovery installed
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Battery draining fast in this update

SunilSuni said:
No change ?? Let me listout some changes for you
1. New VoLTE icon
2. In lockscreen time and date displays in centre
3. Messaging app suggest new plan offer and etc (AI reply)
4. Updated security patch
5. Imporved Battery life
6. New Ringtone and notification sounds
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you sayin improved battery backup??? other people complaining about battery backup getting lowers by updates ..??? sach kya hai
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Question(s) about Bootloatder, ARP, Custom Rom

Hello everyone,
i have a few questions just to make sure i understand the matter good enought.
right now my phone has a locked bootloader and i have to wait about a month until i can unlock it. The ARP code is 3.
I would like to start using my phone but also want to update to the latest firmware.
A read a lot but i still have some questions just to make 100% sure i've got this right.
Q1: Is there any other disadvantage other than ARP when updatating to the latest firmware?
Q2: Is there any advantage to use newer firmware?
Q3: From my understanding the only thing to mind when flashing a new rom while ARP is active is to make sure you don't flash a rom with an older firmware than the one installed at the moment. But beside that i can install ANY rom. Is this correct?
Thank you in advance

I also want to know

destrubtor said:
Hello everyone,
i have a few questions just to make sure i understand the matter good enought.
right now my phone has a locked bootloader and i have to wait about a month until i can unlock it. The ARP code is 3.
I would like to start using my phone but also want to update to the latest firmware.
A read a lot but i still have some questions just to make 100% sure i've got this right.
Q1: Is there any other disadvantage other than ARP when updatating to the latest firmware?
Q2: Is there any advantage to use newer firmware?
Q3: From my understanding the only thing to mind when flashing a new rom while ARP is active is to make sure you don't flash a rom with an older firmware than the one installed at the moment. But beside that i can install ANY rom. Is this correct?
Thank you in advance
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1. No, the only "bad thing" is the ARB.
2. Yes, it is, they push fixes to wifi, basebands, etc and stuff that can help with battery life or overall system performance/smoothness.
3. Yeah, that's correct. Usually custom roms don't have firmware in them, but you should check it anyway (doesn't hurt to be extra careful). So yeah, you can install any rom, even one that'll activate ARB.

destrubtor said:
Hello everyone,
i have a few questions just to make sure i understand the matter good enought.
right now my phone has a locked bootloader and i have to wait about a month until i can unlock it. The ARP code is 3.
I would like to start using my phone but also want to update to the latest firmware.
A read a lot but i still have some questions just to make 100% sure i've got this right.
Q1: Is there any other disadvantage other than ARP when updatating to the latest firmware?
Q2: Is there any advantage to use newer firmware?
Q3: From my understanding the only thing to mind when flashing a new rom while ARP is active is to make sure you don't flash a rom with an older firmware than the one installed at the moment. But beside that i can install ANY rom. Is this correct?
Thank you in advance
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1. well only thing is you need to manually install twrp when you boot into twrp. using the .img and having twrp in sd card or internal. once you flash itll stay in phone.
2. and 3. already answered above.

thanks everyone. That clears things up for me.
So this anti rollback protection isn't as bad as some make it out to be.
I'll update to the latest stock firmware and use that until i can unlock my bootloader an install custom rom.

destrubtor said:
thanks everyone. That clears things up for me.
So this anti rollback protection isn't as bad as some make it out to be.
I'll update to the latest stock firmware and use that until i can unlock my bootloader an install custom rom.
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Unless you brick your device and have to apply for Mi authorisation (the reason why this my last Xiaomi phone unless things change) "Unfortunately authorizations is not granted (anymore). You can try your luck by pm mods in miui Forum or post your ID in countless threads..." Xiaomi crap like this which prevents people using a phone they paid for. Until then I will stay on ARP 3 regardless of fixes

I've seen somewhere that if you remove firmware from zip, you can basically install any rom or that only applies to MiUI?
Is that true?
I also have few questions i would like to be answered if someone has time.
My phone is gonna come in few days, it will be in anti 3.
Im a guy that non stop changes rom and test new stuff, it would be for the best if i dont get into anti 4 or else i am screwed?
What is better, redwolf recovery or twrp and why
If im in anti 3, is custom recovery permanent or it needs special ways to access custom recovery like in anti 4?
Any rom can be installed over custom recovery if im in anti 3? I dont need MiFlash at all? As long as i remove firmware folder from zip i am about to flash
Xiaomi.eu or global dev/stable?

Destinyg133 said:
I've seen somewhere that if you remove firmware from zip, you can basically install any rom or that only applies to MiUI?
Is that true?
I also have few questions i would like to be answered if someone has time.
My phone is gonna come in few days, it will be in anti 3.
Im a guy that non stop changes rom and test new stuff, it would be for the best if i dont get into anti 4 or else i am screwed?
What is better, redwolf recovery or twrp and why
If im in anti 3, is custom recovery permanent or it needs special ways to access custom recovery like in anti 4?
Any rom can be installed over custom recovery if im in anti 3? I dont need MiFlash at all? As long as i remove firmware folder from zip i am about to flash
Xiaomi.eu or global dev/stable?
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It's recommended to stay on ARB3, but if you get into ARB4, the removal of firmware folder in the rom works. You just gotta know how to edit the meta-inf stuff to make it flash on the device. Nothing hard. And you're not screwed, you just gotta be extra careful when flashing MIUI roms.
OrangeFox is the best, IMHO. It's nice, it's themeable sort of, it's smooth and with the latest update, you can backup your internal storage too on a nandroid backup. But when it comes to recoveries, it's down to personal preference, they basically do the same thing.
If you are on ARB3, you don't need dummy.img or any other tweaks. Since you haven't triggered ARB(which blocks most fasboot command), you can use fastboot commands normally. So after you flash the recovery(with fastboot), it stays there.
And you can install any rom in recovery, as long as the rom is built to be installed in recovery. You can't download a fastboot rom and flash it in recovery. MiFlash is used to get back to stock, mostly, that's for fastboot roms.
As for the roms, i'd recommend going into custom roms(not MIUI), but if you do really like MIUI, from what i've read on Telegram, people spoke highly of Revolution OS. I haven't personally used it, i only dealt with Xiaomi.eu roms, but again, i don't play nice with MIUI.

I want to stay arb 3 too as I'm currently waiting for my unlock.
I've seen in the firmware thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/firmware-xiaomi-redmi-note-5-t3766138
There's "Firmware without Arb"
My question is, can I install a custom Rom, install the latest firmware without arb and stay on arb 3? So I still get the benefits of having the latest firmware.

attitude12 said:
It's recommended to stay on ARB3, but if you get into ARB4, the removal of firmware folder in the rom works. You just gotta know how to edit the meta-inf stuff to make it flash on the device. Nothing hard. And you're not screwed, you just gotta be extra careful when flashing MIUI roms.
OrangeFox is the best, IMHO. It's nice, it's themeable sort of, it's smooth and with the latest update, you can backup your internal storage too on a nandroid backup. But when it comes to recoveries, it's down to personal preference, they basically do the same thing.
If you are on ARB3, you don't need dummy.img or any other tweaks. Since you haven't triggered ARB(which blocks most fasboot command), you can use fastboot commands normally. So after you flash the recovery(with fastboot), it stays there.
And you can install any rom in recovery, as long as the rom is built to be installed in recovery. You can't download a fastboot rom and flash it in recovery. MiFlash is used to get back to stock, mostly, that's for fastboot roms.
As for the roms, i'd recommend going into custom roms(not MIUI), but if you do really like MIUI, from what i've read on Telegram, people spoke highly of Revolution OS. I haven't personally used it, i only dealt with Xiaomi.eu roms, but again, i don't play nice with MIUI.
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thank you very much for clearing some things for me, well since only miui i'm going to try is xiaomi,eu and they dont have ARB i guess im fine. I like miui, but i also love custom roms.
Alright, then my only thing to watch is to not get myself into anti 4 and i'll be fine
One more question, Ill be getting redmi note 5 pro ai dual (CN) i dont need custom cust when flashing?

Destinyg133 said:
thank you very much for clearing some things for me, well since only miui i'm going to try is xiaomi,eu and they dont have ARB i guess im fine. I like miui, but i also love custom roms.
Alright, then my only thing to watch is to not get myself into anti 4 and i'll be fine
One more question, Ill be getting redmi note 5 pro ai dual (CN) i dont need custom cust when flashing?
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No, you don't (at least for xioami.eu). Usually, if there's a need for cust, the devs will say so. AFAIK, it's only needed to swap between stable and developer. And yeah, xioami.eu is a good choice.
atzohy said:
I want to stay arb 3 too as I'm currently waiting for my unlock.
I've seen in the firmware thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/firmware-xiaomi-redmi-note-5-t3766138
There's "Firmware without Arb"
My question is, can I install a custom Rom, install the latest firmware without arb and stay on arb 3? So I still get the benefits of having the latest firmware.
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Yes, you can install and use the latest firmware w/o moving to ARB4 (as long as it is arb-less firmware).

Help me before bricking my phone

Now i have redmi note 5 global version 4GB/64GB running Miui 10.2 , I will unlock bootloader now and then install a custom rom. I have read alot about anti rollback and still cannot understand it and am afraid to brick my phone. My questions are :
What is the suitable twrp to install after unlocking bootloader?
Will i face rollback problems?
What after imstalling twrp?
Xan i choose any custom rom in threads to try it then try flashimg another rom?
Please help me

First request the bootloader unlock because sometime it can take upto a month (720 hours) for new accounts. After unlock install the Redwolf Twrp recovery because it's the best and than install any custom rom but don't ever go back to any MIUI version below 9.5.19 otherwise you will endup bricking your phone for downgrading from ARB4 to ARB3. Custom roms works fine no issues with ARB

WaseePK said:
First request the bootloader unlock because sometime it can take upto a month (720 hours) for new accounts. After unlock install the Redwolf Twrp recovery because it's the best and than install any custom rom but don't ever go back to any MIUI version below 9.5.19 otherwise you will endup bricking your phone for downgrading from ARB4 to ARB3. Custom roms works fine no issues with ARB
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can we go back to latest miui10 build from pie custom roms or only miui 9.5.19..will ota work again?

rajausama said:
can we go back to latest miui10 build from pie custom roms or only miui 9.5.19..will ota work again?
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You can go back to any MIUI version it's ok as long as you install ARB4 versions of MIUI 9 or 10 and they start from 9.5.19+ so never ever go for any version below that.

So i just unlock bootloader, install redwolf twrp, then install any custom rom?
You mean that rollback problems happen only when going back to miui rom? I mean if i changed from a custom rom to another, will i have any rollback problems?
Second thing, how to root?

Egyptiandroid said:
So i just unlock bootloader, install redwolf twrp, then install any custom rom?
You mean that rollback problems happen only when going back to miui rom? I mean if i changed from a custom rom to another, will i have any rollback problems?
Second thing, how to root?
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Rollback will not apply to custom ROMs but avoid flash any arb3 firmware file
Flash magisk to gain root access

Egyptiandroid said:
So i just unlock bootloader, install redwolf twrp, then install any custom rom?
You mean that rollback problems happen only when going back to miui rom? I mean if i changed from a custom rom to another, will i have any rollback problems?
Second thing, how to root?
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laos and aosp theres no antirollback only in miui base roms. like miui official.. miui pro.. read the threads cause there are roms that are base on miui but dont touch ARB.. example is masik..
for root flash magisk or in orangefox recovery there magisk already incorporated in twrp..

So should I install orangefox TWRP or redwolf TWRP or what?

Please orangefox or redwolf?

Egyptiandroid said:
Please orangefox or redwolf?
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Redwolf it's awesome!

Ok but i read that orangefox has more extras!
Last question, what is the best rom to try? I mean a rom with little bugs ?

Egyptiandroid said:
Ok but i read that orangefox has more extras!
Last question, what is the best rom to try? I mean a rom with little bugs ?
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Lineage OS 15.1

WaseePK said:
Lineage OS 15.1
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So i am encrypted or not encrypted?
Because in Lineage OS there are 2 different methods for encrypted and non encrypted phones!

Please reply to me! I have 2 questions
First one is:-
I am on anti rollback enabled rom miui 10.0.2.0(anti 4)
I unlocked my bootloader flash twrp and install Custom rom... Before i installed i backed up my (system, boot) partition!! Now i want to go back to MIUI....
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RaiyanRafi said:
Please reply to me! I have 2 questions
First one is:-
I am on anti rollback enabled rom miui 10.0.2.0(anti 4)
I unlocked my bootloader flash twrp and install Custom rom... Before i installed i backed up my (system, boot) partition!! Now i want to go back to MIUI....can i restore those bavkup partition? Will it brick my phone?
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So i am encrypted or not encrypted? I mean what is my situation after unlocking bootloader and installing custom rom ?

What's the easiest way to revert to stock? (Remove TWRP, and relock the bootloader)

I'm sorry if this was asked before, but I've been searching for a few hours now and I couldn't find a good solution.
Basically, I installed twrp and magisk on my "Redmi Note 5 A.I Global Version" a few weeks ago, and I recentely sold my whyred, just now I remembered that it has twrp on it, the guy that bought the phone doesn't mind but I don't want him to have any issues with the phone.
The phone is in MIUI 10 10.0.4, it's working great with no boot loops or anything, I just want to remove the costum recovery and relock the bootloader while being certain that the method I will use won't cause him any problems.
Can I just install miui 10 rom on twrp and it will remove twrp? And then relock with mi flash unlock?
Thank you.

oatsgainer said:
I'm sorry if this was asked before, but I've been searching for a few hours now and I couldn't find a good solution.
Basically, I installed twrp and magisk on my "Redmi Note 5 A.I Global Version" a few weeks ago, and I recentely sold my whyred, just now I remembered that it has twrp on it, the guy that bought the phone doesn't mind but I don't want him to have any issues with the phone.
The phone is in MIUI 10 10.0.4, it's working great with no boot loops or anything, I just want to remove the costum recovery and relock the bootloader while being certain that the method I will use won't cause him any problems.
Can I just install miui 10 rom on twrp and it will remove twrp? And then relock with mi flash unlock?
Thank you.
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download latest fastboot rom. flash with miflash and select clean-lock it will revert back to stock miui firmware amd stock recovery.