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professional music player... try it
It brings better sound, but the front end is better of Poweramp
i can´t belive, a realy parametic equalizer !
has it better sound than stock music player (Im satisfied with it)
I think you need good ears and headphones to hear the sound difference.
Neutron uses 32 bit audio processing, it is better than Poweramp and stock SGS3 player's sound, but the app itself is is not that better
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I think you need good ears and headphones to hear the sound difference.
Neutron uses 32 bit audio processing, it is better than Poweramp and stock SGS3 player's sound, but the app itself is is not that better
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Actually, for me it is since I use the volume normalization feature that no other player has.
If you have a mix of different encodings with somewhat different effective volume, this feature will adjust the preamp setting for each file so you don't need to fool around with the volume rocker on each track
Are there any recommended settings to use with our beloved SGS3?
Is there an option to have more volume-steps for the SGS3? The volume is rather high (even on lowest volume-bar) for me... I wish I could adjust the volume more precise...
U can adjust preamp on most good players,like poweramp-neutron-playerpro,they all have adjustable preamp...or wait for supercurio to release voodoo sound.he boost and modify the wolfson dac (sound chip) and the improvement he makes is "over the top" fantastic and it also contains a preamp
How are people dealing with the audio problems on the Mi Max? It is affecting the Global MIUI 7&8 and the China MIUI 8 ROM. Xiaomi has done nothing despite many complaining on the MIUI forums for months. Even the latest ROM has the same problems.
The output through the headphone jack is half the volume it should be. You can easily listen to YouTube at full volume and it's not even loud. Also the sound quality is appalling with quiet vocals and heavy bass even without using the system EQ (which crashes anyway in MIUI 7). There is also a noticeable hissing/static though headphones for a few seconds before and after a system sound plays, but listening to music doesn't have the same problem.
Considering its a standard Qualcomm DAC used in many phones its terrible what Xiaomi has done to mess up the output. My Mediatek powered phone from 2012 sounds so superior and with the Mi Max being a media consumption aimed phone it's a real poor effort.
I believe the phone is taking a low internal DAC output (caused by a bug) and amplifying it hence the distorted sound and low max volume. It's the only thing I'm extremely disappointed with and wondered how others are handling the issue?
By ditching MIUI...!?
Does the Mi Max not have these issues running CM etc?
I'm sure many are currently using MIUI and I won't be ditching it at least until the years warranty is up, also want to see what MIUI 9 is like based on Nougat.
F27 said:
Does the Mi Max not have these issues running CM etc?
I'm sure many are currently using MIUI and I won't be ditching it at least until the years warranty is up, also want to see what MIUI 9 is like based on Nougat.
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Except some low volume issues which are fixed now haven't heard of much complains...
nijel8 said:
Except some low volume issues which are fixed now haven't heard of much complains...
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...i+max+sound+problems+site:en.miui.com&start=0
F27 said:
How are people dealing with the audio problems on the Mi Max? It is affecting the Global MIUI 7&8 and the China MIUI 8 ROM. Xiaomi has done nothing despite many complaining on the MIUI forums for months. Even the latest ROM has the same problems.
The output through the headphone jack is half the volume it should be. You can easily listen to YouTube at full volume and it's not even loud. Also the sound quality is appalling with quiet vocals and heavy bass even without using the system EQ (which crashes anyway in MIUI 7). There is also a noticeable hissing/static though headphones for a few seconds before and after a system sound plays, but listening to music doesn't have the same problem.
Considering its a standard Qualcomm DAC used in many phones its terrible what Xiaomi has done to mess up the output. My Mediatek powered phone from 2012 sounds so superior and with the Mi Max being a media consumption aimed phone it's a real poor effort.
I believe the phone is taking a low internal DAC output (caused by a bug) and amplifying it hence the distorted sound and low max volume. It's the only thing I'm extremely disappointed with and wondered how others are handling the issue?
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I can confirm the low headphone volume bug exists for some media/music player apps on the miui 8 global rom. However, there's an easy workaround. Open Google play music app and play an audio file in that app. Increase the headphone volume from that app beyond the 'Warning: high volume can damage hearing' volume level. Leave the headphone volume at the highest setting. Close Google play music app. The next time you play audio in your preferred media player (other than Google play music), it should already be fixed. If you don't have Google play music, you can download it from Google Play store.
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...i+max+sound+problems+site:en.miui.com&start=0
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That wasn't necessary... I am well aware of all things about Mi Max from day one.
And you were asking about CM so...
I thought my new earphones were faulty when I used them in my Mi Max. I was going to give them away but then I read about sound problems on Mi Max. Both my xiaomi phones have poor sound quality, mi4 always had poor quiet sound.
The low volume has been fixed for me on g8
There's some cracking but that's sorted by clean cache in the play music app there's also a equaliser in the app settings
This is a workaround for get high volume during listening to music by using IEM/Headphone. Only work with poweramp v3 alpha build 703/704
(Please Google it for APK. It's free in Poweramp forum)
Install poweramp v3 alpha, go to setting > resampler.
Select resampler type > SoX
Resampler cutoff frequency ratio > 97% ~ 99%
Dither > Improved e-weighted noise shaping (Poweramp indicate it slow but actually it fast enough)
Tap back button and select Hi-Res Output and then turn on Wired headset/aux (it will upsampled lossy format thus higher volume and audio quality improved a little bit. Another thing is make sure the 24-bit Snapdragon DAC is activated during listening session).
WARNING: Lower the volume at 20% or lower before activating Hi-Res output during playback. Trust me you'll thanks me later xD
If you can hear distorted sound at high volume, go to replay gain (RG), set preamp for songs without RG info to -7dB. (Just to make sure the sound is not clipping).
The Mi Max audio quality is pretty good even the DAC is just an integrated DAC.
In the screenshot is DSD128 playback. Working but it was downsampled. As for 24bit/96kHz source, it will upsampled to 192kHz.
Thank you for the replies. I have tried upping to volume in Google Play Music and it did increase the volume in other apps by around 20% so it's a start and thank you for the tip but it's still not really near the quality and loudness it should be for a stock Qualcomm 652 DAC. I will give the V3 Poweramp beta trick a try. I am currently using the Poweramp Pro to listen to music and the Mi Max sounds poor.
Basically Xiaomi need to go through how MIUI is handling audio and overhaul it imo, and hopefully version 9 won't need any of these work arounds because I've never had trouble on other budget phones... or I'm off to another ROM!
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Thank you for the replies. I have tried upping to volume in Google Play Music and it did increase the volume in other apps by around 20% so it's a start and thank you for the tip but it's still not really near the quality and loudness it should be for a stock Qualcomm 652 DAC. I will give the V3 Poweramp beta trick a try. I am currently using the Poweramp Pro to listen to music and the Mi Max sounds poor.
Basically Xiaomi need to go through how MIUI is handling audio and overhaul it imo, and hopefully version 9 won't need any of these work arounds because I've never had trouble on other budget phones... or I'm off to another ROM!
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If you want more loudness still, louder than what the stock MIUI 8 can give you, I suggest you install music players with a 'pre-amp'. Neutron is one of my favorites among 'audiophile' grade music players (though I like BSPlayer more due to its multimedia capabilities). You can download the trial version of 'Neutron' at Google playstore (or purchase the full version if you are satisfied with the player.) Here are screenshots of Neutron music player where the pre-amp was adjusted (above zero) so as to increase the Mi Max's maximum attainable headphone volume (without buying an external portable headphone amp). Please note that too high a pre-amp setting can cause audio clipping which results to bad sound quality.
As to sound quality, yes the Mi Max headphone sound quality is really poor out of the box (MIUI 8). I have an Audio technica ATH-M50s/LE headphones which I used to listen to FLAC music on my previous Huawei Mate 7 phone. The sound quality was just ethereal. It's like listening to live musicians. I missed the headphone sound quality on my Mate 7 [DTS enabled] using the Audio technica as my headphones and BSPlayer as my preferred player (highlights the Audio Technica's strengths). Anyway, when I changed to the Mi Max, I used the same Audio Technica headphones only to be disappointed. I found out the Mi Max can't quite match the Mate 7's music reproduction [headphone DTS enabled] using the same music player (BSPlayer) or any music player for that matter. Fortunately, the Mi Max comes with headphone settings and a built in equalizer. Did a little experimentation and came up with the following settings that managed to somehow 'resemble' what my previous Mate 7 phone was able to deliver with regard to sound quality. Please note your mileage may vary depending on the quality of the headphones you use and your preferred media or music player:
1. Set Mi sound enhancer to 'ON'. Choose 'Mi headphones'.
2. Set the equalizer as follows:
These settings should improve the Mi Max's sound quality tremendously... Well, at least from my experience --- using the same Audio technica headphones and BSPlayer music player as audio player. I've saved the custom equalizer settings above as 'Mate7' because it reminds me of the sound quality of my previous Mate 7 phone. It's not a perfect match, but at least it comes close. Please note you really need good quality over-the-ear headphones if you want to overcome the Mi Max's 'poor headphone audio' shortcomings. Alternate headphones that I have thoroughly listened to and would also highly recommend are the B&W P7 and Sennheiser Momentums. I would have bought the B&W P7 had I not auditioned the Audio Technica side-by-side it and the Sennheiser Momentums. If you are serious about audio but can't give up the Mi Max for another phone with better audio components, then the recommendations above are about as good as the Mi Max can get.
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If you want more loudness still, louder than what the stock MIUI 8 can give you, I suggest you install music players with a 'pre-amp'. Neutron is one of my favorites among 'audiophile' grade music players (though I like BSPlayer more due to its multimedia capabilities). You can download the trial version of 'Neutron' at Google playstore (or purchase the full version if you are satisfied with the player.) Here are screenshots of Neutron music player where the pre-amp was adjusted (above zero) so as to increase the Mi Max's maximum attainable headphone volume (without buying an external portable headphone amp). Please note that too high a pre-amp setting can cause audio clipping which results to bad sound quality.
As to sound quality, yes the Mi Max headphone sound quality is really poor out of the box (MIUI 8). I have an Audio technica ATH-M50s/LE headphones which I used to listen to FLAC music on my previous Huawei Mate 7 phone. The sound quality was just ethereal. It's like listening to live musicians. I missed the headphone sound quality on my Mate 7 [DTS enabled] using the Audio technica as my headphones and BSPlayer as my preferred player (highlights the Audio Technica's strengths). Anyway, when I changed to the Mi Max, I used the same Audio Technica headphones only to be disappointed. I found out the Mi Max can't quite match the Mate 7's music reproduction [headphone DTS enabled] using the same music player (BSPlayer) or any music player for that matter. Fortunately, the Mi Max comes with headphone settings and a built in equalizer. Did a little experimentation and came up with the following settings that managed to somehow 'resemble' what my previous Mate 7 phone was able to deliver with regard to sound quality. Please note your mileage may vary depending on the quality of the headphones you use and your preferred media or music player:
1. Set Mi sound enhancer to 'ON'. Choose 'Mi headphones'.
2. Set the equalizer as follows:
These settings should improve the Mi Max's sound quality tremendously... Well, at least from my experience --- using the same Audio technica headphones and BSPlayer music player as audio player. I've saved the custom equalizer settings above as 'Mate7' because it reminds me of the sound quality of my previous Mate 7 phone. It's not a perfect match, but at least it comes close. Please note you really need good quality over-the-ear headphones if you want to overcome the Mi Max's 'poor headphone audio' shortcomings. Alternate headphones that I have thoroughly listened to and would also highly recommend are the B&W P7 and Sennheiser Momentums. I would have bought the B&W P7 had I not auditioned the Audio Technica side-by-side it and the Sennheiser Momentums. If you are serious about audio but can't give up the Mi Max for another phone with better audio components, then the recommendations above are about as good as the Mi Max can get.
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FYI, the audio quality pretty impressive with IEM (Audio Technica ATH-IM50 and Trinity Audio Engineering Delta). You feel the sound is not quite loud enough because of internal amp suck. Mi Max can't handle high impedance headphone like yours (ATH-M50X). To overcome your problem, you have to pair your Mi Max with portable amp such as fiio e11k.
btw, didnt you noticed your source is clipping too much across low freq??
Actually the 'Neutron' screenshots did not show any headphones attached. The music was played on Mi Max's loudspeakers which can't reproduce low frequency so you can't hear the clipped low frequency sounds. The recording is actually only piano, vocals and cymbals. The low frequency is from instrument feedback (low frequency hum). On my ATH-M50s/LE headphones, that volume level would have been half as much since 100% is already too loud, eliminating the low frequency clipping. I don't need an external amp for my headphones. They're loud enough for me except for some Chesky recordings.
At the end of the day we shouldn't need to do any of these fixes and tweaks to make the sound from the Mi Max reasonable, Xiaomi should fix it but it seems they have very poor customer service when it comes to feedback and bugs. This Qualcomm DAC chipset is in many phones yet they don't have sound quality and loudness issues. I don't expect perfection but the Mi Max out of the box sounds worse than by budget Mediatek powered phone from 4 years ago!
i modded the mixer_paths files to make the sound louder. My roms all include this already. You need to make sure in your build.prop that fluence is enabled by making sure there is a line that says ro.qc.sdk.audio.fluencetype=fluence and make sure the two lines persist.audio.fluence.voicecall and persist.audio.fluence.speaker are set to true. Then flash this in twrp or replace your three mixer paths files in system/etc with the ones in the zip file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5I_q70mNuR4c1pxODNpTk12Y2M/view?usp=sharing
AeroMiku said:
FYI, the audio quality pretty impressive with IEM (Audio Technica ATH-IM50 and Trinity Audio Engineering Delta). You feel the sound is not quite loud enough because of internal amp suck. Mi Max can't handle high impedance headphone like yours (ATH-M50X). To overcome your problem, you have to pair your Mi Max with portable amp such as fiio e11k.
btw, didnt you noticed your source is clipping too much across low freq??
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Try out Foobar2000 (available on the Play Store, free & open source) instead of Neutron & you can skip the entire default sound processing with usage of the Open SL sound output & you will find a built in DSP section mostly sufficient. I am against modifying sound picture to much & as much as I sow in GSM Arena review the output sound picture is almost perfect & thick behind iPhone 6s (I plan to buy Max now). Rest is mostly influenced by quality of sound source & used headphones. For more well use dedicated external DAC & Amp.
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i modded the mixer_paths files to make the sound louder. My roms all include this already. You need to make sure in your build.prop that fluence is enabled by making sure there is a line that says ro.qc.sdk.audio.fluencetype=fluence and make sure the two lines persist.audio.fluence.voicecall and persist.audio.fluence.speaker are set to true. Then flash this in twrp or replace your three mixer paths files in system/etc with the ones in the zip file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5I_q70mNuR4c1pxODNpTk12Y2M/view?usp=sharing
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Would actually rather increase (in small steps) output volume
In <!-- Play Scenario --> section for headphones & speaker if I whose you.
Don't exaggerate with it!
Best regards.
I did the opposite and reduced headphone volume to get rid of the hissing. I had the same problem on the Note 3 Pro, on MIUI 8 and CM13/CM14, so it's down to how the Qualcomm mixers are configured. By reducing gain and turning off companders you're dropping the noise floor. The drawback is that headphone volume is low, so this hack only works well with low impedance IEMs like Xiaomi Pistons.
1. Get rooted, open up all mixer_path_*.xml files in /system/etc.
2. Change HPHL Volume and HPHR Volume to a low value like 2.
3. Change any Comp* Switch values to 0.
4. Change RX HPH Mode to CLS_H_HIFI
5. Reboot and enjoy.
My own solution - Use VLC. Fixes the volume problem well - after you set the Audio Output to ES
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My own solution - Use VLC. Fixes the volume problem well - after you set the Audio Output to ES
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Use Foobar2000 instead, VLC is bad when it comes to music.
Is there a way to control the DAC via viper 4android, so that it amplifies the viper effects or the sound?
From what I've done by installing V4A as a magisk module, DAC works as usual and V4A on top, certainly, sounds better, but i thinks still has little bit quiet sound...
I still have the feeling that if I let run in parallel with viper that the viper sound sometimes a little bit steer? and I think that the profiles of the DAC do not quite harmonize with viper? So I thought, if there is a possibility, that you can turn the dac on and off, but tonal only steers over viper
I think the sound does not sound as clean and clear as on my z2. even without dac. actually the LG would have to sound much better than my z2. I'm a little bit mystified. I've already disabled the LG Equalizer, but has not brought any improvement with Viper4android
lol you guys are trying to fix something that isn't broken. in fact, you're trying to fix the most outstanding feature of this phone!
At least it would be nice if you could switch off the standart equalizer. because the profile is Normal, it does not mean at the same time that the equalizer is off. then I suspect that if I have viper installed, there are problems with the volume. that the lg and viper hinder each other and that's why such a bad sound arises, even if the dac is off
Do you unterstand at all how viper vs build-in DAC works?
The only way, afaik, for bypass the default EQ and filters is using USB audio player Pro, since pass bitperfect data to the DAC skipping any post process.
To be honest I don't know why you want to use viper, you only add a lot of junk to the sound, don't get me wrong but If you're not happy with the sound maybe you should buy better headphones.
is there anyone who can port Viper4android for the G7? I found out that some of the original sound files have to be changed or replaced. if it should sound neat and clean.
can someone tell me what the file is responsible for in the directory vendor / radio?
because I have now deleted this file and still the LGEqualizer apk and have the pure sound of tidal. and it sounds a lot better. I just wanted to know what the file in the radio folder is good for.
Hi All,
I have purchased used Eonon GA9165A. New to all of this.. I'm wondering if it has DSP as the sound quality is a bit on a low side.
Specs shows:
MTCE_WWW_V2.85d_1
PX5 Android 8.0, 4GB.
The interface shows 10 band equaliser. I would expect some additional sound settings like I have seen in some setups. Is this just a matter of software or the unit does not have DSP and I would need to do the mod?
Ok, audio via phone Bluetooth connection question.
I recently exchanged my Samsung Galaxy S9 for a OnePlus 7T, and I notice that with the new phone, I have to play music on my car radio (Kia Forte) at a higher level of sound. Sound quality is good though. Has anyone had a similar experience, be it an Android or an iOS phone? Thanks!
I've been trying to work this out myself.
I moved from a Galaxy S8 to a OnePlus 7t and I stream my music via Bluetooth to my JBL Charge 4; I have been feeling like volume has been a lot lower and bass is just not there like it was on the S8. But then I had been flicking between Spotify and Deezer on my S8 so that could have contributed to the confusion as the volumes levels differ a bit on there too.
I'm on 10.0.9 (Stable - EU) and believe it to be quieter and lacking in comparison to Samsung :/
Try dolby atmos equalizer and you can feel the difference of volume boost and audio quality had same problem on my car with sony BT stereo but with that app it's a lot better, give it a try.. You can find it under "oneplus 7t themes apps and mods"
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Try dolby atmos equalizer and you can feel the difference of volume boost and audio quality had same problem on my car with sony BT stereo but with that app it's a lot better, give it a try.. You can find it under "oneplus 7t themes apps and mods"
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Are you referring to the APK? I did see this the other day but wasn't sure if it persisted after reboot
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Try dolby atmos equalizer and you can feel the difference of volume boost and audio quality had same problem on my car with sony BT stereo but with that app it's a lot better, give it a try.. You can find it under "oneplus 7t themes apps and mods"
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My T-Mobile 7T has the Dolby Atmos equalizer option, and it does help with sound quality, but not overall loudness.
Also, I tried this on my OP, and it more or less helps with a bit louder sound, but not as loud as the Samsung.
https://mobileinternist.com/low-bluetooth-volume-android
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Are you referring to the APK? I did see this the other day but wasn't sure if it persisted after reboot
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Yes the apk.. to get it working properly you need to disable the in-built one, either via adb or disable application app (root)