I know that the 5z can have it's bootloader unlocked, my concern is with the updates, is there anyway to keep getting updates after you root the phone.
Eagle1337 said:
I know that the 5z can have it's bootloader unlocked, my concern is with the updates, is there anyway to keep getting updates after you root the phone.
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Same as other devices I'd imagine. Flash a full OTA in fastboot, not incremental. Then flash root again.
Or flash stock recovery, update, then TWRP and root.
This is of course with TWRP support.
Unlocking the BL does not have an affect on OTAs.
antiochasylum said:
Same as other devices I'd imagine. Flash a full OTA in fastboot, not incremental. Then flash root again.
Or flash stock recovery, update, then TWRP and root.
This is of course with TWRP support.
Unlocking the BL does not have an affect on OTAs.
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ah, I was going off of a reddit post about the zenfone 4.
"I get security updates every 2 or 3 months and they're generally about one month behind. Bootloader unlock has a problem that they change the name of the phone or something so you can no longer use the official updates. This would not be a problem if there was a rom community but there isn't as of now (at least with z4p)"
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Hello guys,
I have a doubt about being root and getting the official OTA . All i have done is the next:
1. Unlock the boot loader
2. Flashing TWRP and then supersu.
3. Restore the stock recovery.
My question is if I will have problems with the OTA (because firmware, root, bl unlocked, etc...) or if everything is ok.
Thank you
rubenius said:
Hello guys,
I have a doubt about being root and getting the official OTA . All i have done is the next:
1. Unlock the boot loader
2. Flashing TWRP and then supersu.
3. Restore the stock recovery.
My question is if I will have problems with the OTA (because firmware, root, bl unlocked, etc...) or if everything is ok.
Thank you
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If you've done some research into this you would have had the answer easily...
Root and Unlocked bootloader won't prevent OTA. After OTA you'll lose Root though but you can flash that back again afterwards.
Thank you! I did the research, but I read a lot of things about the firmware and people who has to update first the firm then the ROM and other strange things... Having to flash both things is when you are S-OFF and you want to flash a ROM right? Nothing to do with my problem?
rubenius said:
Thank you! I did the research, but I read a lot of things about the firmware and people who has to update first the firm then the ROM and other strange things... Having to flash both things is when you are S-OFF and you want to flash a ROM right? Nothing to do with my problem?
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Well you don't need S-OFF to flash a ROM but you'll need it for the firmware(Radio etc).
Yes, it has nothing to do with your question though.
S-OFF, ROOT, Unlocked Bootloader <<<These things won't prevent OTA update.
Changed system files, Deleted Pre-loaded apps(Facebook for example), custom recovery <<<These type of things WILL prevent the OTA update from installing.
and when my carrier or HTC updates both ROM and firmware by OTA? it'll works as before? (sorry for being so noob)...
rubenius said:
and when my carrier or HTC updates both ROM and firmware by OTA? it'll works as before? (sorry for being so noob)...
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Yes
ok, this is driving me crazy. had every nexus except the 6, got the 5x. unlocked bootloader, ok. flash twrp. cool. install root files, great. set up android pay, denied due to unlocked boot loader. went to lock boot loader... wants to do a factory reset.... ok..... now it just boot loops in twrp formats cache, and phone gives errors about corrupt system, different system, blah blah. so right now im bootloader unlocked, rooted with twrp. how is everyone relocking the boot loader?
You have to be on stock recovery to relock the bootloader. You can hardbrick this phone trying to lock it with TWRP installed. Consider yourself lucky?
Android pay is not working because of root, not the unlocked bootloader. Start reading about systemless root
berndblb said:
You have to be on stock recovery to relock the bootloader. You can hardbrick this phone trying to lock it with TWRP installed. Consider yourself lucky?
Android pay is not working because of root, not the unlocked bootloader. Start reading about systemless root
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yes, i flashed the systemless root on my n5x ( i have a regular nexus 5, twrp, bootloader locked, and android pay works with systemless root) so i do now about this recent development. can it be flashed in stock recovery? i just feel like im missing something?
From the [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for Nexus 5X that you should have read before farting around with the phone:
Important: do not relock your bootloader unless your phone is fully stock. You must flash the factory images first in order to remove root and custom recovery (if you have them), if this precaution isn't taken you may end up with a brick. Please see section 11 of this guide for full instructions on how to return to stock.
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Use the guide I linked to to flash the stock images. Then use the guide again to root the phone with systemless root.
PiousInquisitor said:
From the [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for Nexus 5X that you should have read before farting around with the phone:
Use the guide I linked to to flash the stock images. Then use the guide again to root the phone with systemless root.
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thanks for the link, thats one of the first things i read when i started looking but it doesnt really talk about relocking the bootloader unless going stock. im just trying to keep my systemless root and have locked bootloader. sounds like i should try reflashing stock recov after rooting and then try to relock bootloader?
dwreck420 said:
thanks for the link, thats one of the first things i read when i started looking but it doesnt really talk about relocking the bootloader unless going stock. im just trying to keep my systemless root and have locked bootloader. sounds like i should try reflashing stock recov after rooting and then try to relock bootloader?
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It plainly says:
mportant: do not relock your bootloader unless your phone is fully stock. You must flash the factory images first in order to remove root and custom recovery (if you have them), if this precaution isn't taken you may end up with a brick. Please see section 11 of this guide for full instructions on how to return to stock.
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If you have rooted your phone, you are not fully stock. Therefor do not relock the bootloader.
dwreck420 said:
yes, i flashed the systemless root on my n5x ( i have a regular nexus 5, twrp, bootloader locked, and android pay works with systemless root) so i do now about this recent development. can it be flashed in stock recovery? i just feel like im missing something?
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The 5X is my first Nexus so bare with me. Why would you have TWRP installed with a locked bootloader on the OG Nexus 5? What is the benefit of that?
SlimSnoopOS said:
The 5X is my first Nexus so bare with me. Why would you have TWRP installed with a locked bootloader on the OG Nexus 5? What is the benefit of that?
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well there was an app "bootunlocker" which let you unlock it on the fly. also android pay requires a locked bootloader.
so i have locked bootloader, systemless root, and twrp on my OG nexus 5.
just cant seen to relock bootloader and somehow reroot again since NOW nexus 5x required device be WIPED when relocked
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It plainly says:
If you have rooted your phone, you are not fully stock. Therefor do not relock the bootloader.
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does android pay work for you with unlocked bootloaders and systemless root?
dwreck420 said:
well there was an app "bootunlocker" which let you unlock it on the fly. also android pay requires a locked bootloader.
so i have locked bootloader, systemless root, and twrp on my OG nexus 5.
just cant seen to relock bootloader and somehow reroot again since NOW nexus 5x required device be WIPED when relocked
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Oh, that sounds pretty cool actually.
I don't use Android Pay but I know you do not need a locked bootloader to get it working. Which version of SuperSU did you install? Cuz every time I see a 5X user with working Android Pay, they have systemless root and even a custom rom. I am pretty certain that I read that you just need to delete /SU/xbin_bind to get Android Pay working with systemless root.
Edit: I've seen it mentioned in the SuperSU thread I think, but it is explicitly mentioned in this Nexus 6P Android Pay thread
dwreck420 said:
does android pay work for you with unlocked bootloaders and systemless root?
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Yes. This is common knowledge.
Android Pay looks for changes to the system partition only. It doesn't give a rats ass if the kernel, recovery, or boot image are modified, nor does it give a flying **** if the bootloader is unlocked.
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PiousInquisitor said:
Yes. This is common knowledge.
Android Pay looks for changes to the system partition only. It doesn't give a rats ass if the kernel, recovery, or boot image are modified, nor does it give a flying **** if the bootloader is unlocked.
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thanks for the clarification.
dwreck420 said:
thanks for the clarification.
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No problem. Sorry if I came across a bit hostile. I may have been up too late last night.
Android Pay is also working on some ROMs. Cataclysm for one. PureNexus will be comparable next update too.
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Never mind
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Any one knows how to re-lock the bootloader of one plus 3???
And
How to remove that screen on boot up after unlocking one plus three??? :/
If you read the screen properly ull see the instructions on the screen itself do everything the same way you unlock the bootloader just instead of oem bootloader unlock type oem bootloader lock ...but make sure you're on stock rom and recovery
zubinvig said:
If you read the screen properly ull see the instructions on the screen itself do everything the same way you unlock the bootloader just instead of oem bootloader unlock type oem bootloader lock ...but make sure you're on stock rom and recovery
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But then My root access will be wiped??
I want root access and dont want than annoying screen
two questions different answer but I would bet if there is a way to remove nag screen a google search would find it. Keep searching threads
there is no reason to re-lock bootloader, its still under warranty through Oneplus even with unlocked bootloader. but if u really want to
1. fastboot flash stock recovery (fastboot flash recovery recovery.img) (make sure u download the file, its somewhere here on the forums
2. reboot and then reboot to fastboot (fastboot oem lock) (i have never re locked a bootloader so i am not sure if it will rewipe ur device again like unlocking it does)
3. boot to OS and get developer options again and uncheck OEM Unlock (do this last)
i would not recommend re locking since it wont void warranty and seemed like a lot people screwed up their devices relocking it, but they also unchecked the oem unlock before flashing stock recovery, also i am not sure if step 2 is needed, i would just make sure u flash stock recovery 1st before doing anything
HELP
I try to relock the bootloader but in this momento my oneplus 3 is blocked...I cant update with the stock rom...please some help!!! :crying:
zubinvig said:
If you read the screen properly ull see the instructions on the screen itself do everything the same way you unlock the bootloader just instead of oem bootloader unlock type oem bootloader lock ...but make sure you're on stock rom and recovery
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What happens if i follow same steps with installed FREEDOM OS on my oneplus 3. You said make sure you are in stock OS.
Once i have unlocked the phn my device doesn't get recognised by the pc when i use command" fastboot devices".. Now, i'm unable to flash twrp, plz solve my issue.!!!
Arun Ammineni said:
What happens if i follow same steps with installed FREEDOM OS on my oneplus 3. You said make sure you are in stock OS.
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ecarchi said:
I try to relock the bootloader but in this momento my oneplus 3 is blocked...I cant update with the stock rom...please some help!!! :crying:
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What part of be on stock OS is so hard to understand?
If you're not absolutely stock when relocking, you will brick your device.
Then good luck trying to enable OEM Unlocking when not being able to boot.
As someone who messes with their phone, relocking your bootloader is one of the worst possible things you can do.
If not done correctly, it WILL brick your device.
If you want to go back to stock, then surely do, there is absolutely no need to relock your boot loader unless you're selling your device to someone or if you're looking to pass SafetyNet for Android Pay or something.
Also, you cannot have the cake as well as eat it. You need to have an unlocked boot loader for root, exposed, etc. There is no way around this.
Phones previously had to be reverse engineered and exploited to gain root access, now OEMs freely allow unlocking.
kgs1992 said:
What part of be on stock OS is so hard to understand?
If you're not absolutely stock when relocking, you will brick your device.
Then good luck trying to enable OEM Unlocking when not being able to boot.
As someone who messes with their phone, relocking your bootloader is one of the worst possible things you can do.
If not done correctly, it WILL brick your device.
If you want to go back to stock, then surely do, there is absolutely no need to relock your boot loader unless you're selling your device to someone or if you're looking to pass SafetyNet for Android Pay or something.
Also, you cannot have the cake as well as eat it. You need to have an unlocked boot loader for root, exposed, etc. There is no way around this.
Phones previously had to be reverse engineered and exploited to gain root access, now OEMs freely allow unlocking.
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I hope you can read this. I'm not a noob and I am looking to relock my bootloader because I am going to sell it. The person wants it fully stock so I need to relock the bootloader in order to regain access to official Ota updates.
I need to be on complete stock (stock recovery and rom) right? Would you please kindly point me to where I need to go to download the stock Rom and recovery. There's some TWRP flashable OTA zips on Oneplus forums that restore stock Rom and recovery but I want to be sure that that is enough and that I don't end up bricking my device for something as stupid as this. Any help would greatly be appreciated!
Arthurvben said:
I hope you can read this. I'm not a noob and I am looking to relock my bootloader because I am going to sell it. The person wants it fully stock so I need to relock the bootloader in order to regain access to official Ota updates.
I need to be on complete stock (stock recovery and rom) right? Would you please kindly point me to where I need to go to download the stock Rom and recovery. There's some TWRP flashable OTA zips on Oneplus forums that restore stock Rom and recovery but I want to be sure that that is enough and that I don't end up bricking my device for something as stupid as this. Any help would greatly be appreciated!
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Fash 3.2.4 FW from here.
Follow all instructions from here (except I would suggest sideloading the StockROM before relocking).
Arthurvben said:
I hope you can read this. I'm not a noob and I am looking to relock my bootloader because I am going to sell it. The person wants it fully stock so I need to relock the bootloader in order to regain access to official Ota updates.
I need to be on complete stock (stock recovery and rom) right? Would you please kindly point me to where I need to go to download the stock Rom and recovery. There's some TWRP flashable OTA zips on Oneplus forums that restore stock Rom and recovery but I want to be sure that that is enough and that I don't end up bricking my device for something as stupid as this. Any help would greatly be appreciated!
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I followed the same guide posted on OnePlus Forum to re-lock my bootloader. Just follow them, it works.
Here is that link from OnePlus forum.
1. I restored my stock rom backup from TWRP
2. Flashed Stock recovery
3. fastboot oem lock
4. Sideload stock ROM
Done.
I unlocked because stock ROM I felt was much stabler and hassle free. Have rooted and played with custom ROMs enough in my Nexus 5 days. Just too much stress and can end up with non-working features. Might root again in future if I find something compelling in custom ROM.
batmobile_bang said:
I followed the same guide posted on OnePlus Forum to re-lock my bootloader. Just follow them, it works.
Here is that link from OnePlus forum.
1. I restored my stock rom backup from TWRP
2. Flashed Stock recovery
3. fastboot oem lock
4. Sideload stock ROM
Done.
I unlocked because stock ROM I felt was much stabler and hassle free. Have rooted and played with custom ROMs enough in my Nexus 5 days. Just too much stress and can end up with non-working features. Might root again in future if I find something compelling in custom ROM.
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If you unlock bootloader and root device. Do you still get OTA updates if you stay on stock ROM?
borijess said:
If you unlock bootloader and root device. Do you still get OTA updates if you stay on stock ROM?
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If you unlock device, you will still be able to apply OTA. If you rooted by modifying the /system partition, OTA will fail, but if thou rooted using systemless method, you can apply OTA.
Iam on stock OOS 4.0.3 and i was plagued by the same error
--adb sideload the complete rom (with locked bootloader)-- method worked for me.
Previously i had unlocked bootloader and was on freedom OOS 2.3 with TWRP and then i realized that stock updates are better.
So i installed stock recovery and and tried to flash Stock Firmware 4.0.3 through sideload command and it failed.
then i installed TWRP and then installed stock OOS 4.0.3 and it installed fine but with some error.
Then i installed stock recovery
So i rebooted it and after long time it was installed but then i started getting dm_verity error and also i was frustated with unlocked bootloader message.
So i locked my boot loader first from fastboot oem lock and then sideloaded the stock 4.0.3 again and it really worked.
So now i am on stock rom and stock recovery and no more dm_verity error or unlocked bootloader msg to wait for 5 secs...
Now iam really loving my Oneplus 3..
I've unlocked my bootloader a while back and had my thrills with root and xposed but I felt like the modules and apps I was using weren't helping with battery life. I've decided to unroot by fastboot flashing the system images (including boot) and decided to lock the bootloader as well. I wasn't surprised that the bootloader was checking for signed kernel and ROM that I flashed, since I've downloaded the system images from someone who isn't from Motorola who uploaded their copy of the files.
Point of this post is this... Since the OTA downloads supposedly signed packages (when nougat arrives for the US variant), will I be able to lock the bootloader after I flash the supposed upcoming nougat update via OTA?
DroneDoom said:
I've unlocked my bootloader a while back and had my thrills with root and xposed but I felt like the modules and apps I was using weren't helping with battery life. I've decided to unroot by fastboot flashing the system images (including boot) and decided to lock the bootloader as well. I wasn't surprised that the bootloader was checking for signed kernel and ROM that I flashed, since I've downloaded the system images from someone who isn't from Motorola who uploaded their copy of the files.
Point of this post is this... Since the OTA downloads supposedly signed packages (when nougat arrives for the US variant), will I be able to lock the bootloader after I flash the supposed upcoming nougat update via OTA?
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Just leave it unlocked, it makes no difference even if you relock it, you'll still be flag as having an unlocked bootloader.
You can still flash or accept the nougat ota with an unlocked bootloader.
If you're trying to get android pay to work well that maybe not be possible.
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Just leave it unlocked, it makes no difference even if you relock it, you'll still be flag as having an unlocked bootloader.
You can still flash or accept the nougat ota with an unlocked bootloader.
If you're trying to get android pay to work well that maybe not be possible.
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Alright thanks, that's what I was regretting to find out. Hopefully magisk and systemless root can eventually work on our device so I don't have to do TWRP backups of stock.
Do I need to relock the bootloader and go back to stock recovery in order to receive the 8.0 update?
Not sure. I think that once you have unlocked bootloader and installed TWRP, you are unable to receive any more official updates, I could be wrong though.
Hopefully not lol
You will receive OTA as long as you're not rooted, this is usual with basically every phone.
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Not sure. I think that once you have unlocked bootloader and installed TWRP, you are unable to receive any more official updates, I could be wrong though.
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See that's the part didn't think would matter now I have to get rid of SuperSU? Kms
DevilWithoutACause said:
Do I need to relock the bootloader and go back to stock recovery in order to receive the 8.0 update?
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Mine updated last night to 8.0 with unlocked bootloader. Just have to be unrooted and must have stock recovery installed.